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so, i tried my mothers rogers sim card and my EURO hero works fine. I could not get my newly activated telus sim card to work in my hero though, it has the right bands, there site says it should work too!
does anyone else have a euro hero on telus?
how did you get it working!?
I appreciate any and all help! thank you!
ps i had a rooted hero with modaco 2.9 and my own theme.. but i thought updating to the latest ruu from htc would fix it but apparently it didnt!
also when i go into menu - settings-wireless controls-mobile network settings-network operators-search networks... i only get rogers wireless and no telus.. so i went driving (passsenger seat lol) to see if i just wasnt getting reception... but no matter where i went i did not get service...
also i called telus and they said there network is fine and that my sim card is activated..
my phone has popped up a few times "telus : temp. me error" or something like that too
urghh, i bought an unlocked phone... but i never tried a sim card till after i updated to the newest ruu from htc... maybe its not totally unlocked?
although it works on rogers! but arnt they roaming partners? maybe thats why it works on rogers?
idk im pretty sure bell has the new network too, and they dont show up on my phone either:\
please helpp!
k now i have used flash rec to get the recovery image, installed t-mobile image because the telus check to see if my phone will work said it was from there even though it was "unbranded and unlocked" but when i pop my telus sim there is nothing saying that the network is locked or anything :s
urgh i will try a replacement sim tomorrow hopefully!
still would appreciate any info anyone has!
Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?
xsirhc6x said:
Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unfortunately the Euro HTC Hero will not work on Telus or Bell. Telus and Bell's new HSPA networks only work with phones that can support HSPA 850/1900. The North American HTC Hero (sold by Telus) has these bands. The Euro HTC Hero only supports HSPA 900/2100 (i.e. any 3G networks outside of North America). The reason you can see Rogers is because Rogers has GSM support (the Euro HTC Hero can only work on GSM networks in Canada - Rogers or Fido only).
I wish I had better news, but I'm afraid you'll need to purchase a North American HTC Hero (if you wish to use Bell or Telus' HSPA network), or alternatively, another cell phone that supports HSPA 850/1900.
but i read from htc site
HSPA/WCDMA:
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900/2100 MHz
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Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
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850/900/1800/1900 MHz
and telus site
Runs on 1900/850 MHz frequency bands and uses standard 3GPP SIM cards
so techinically i just cant get 3g, but i cant even get voice/text working
and im on pay as you go anyways
wait so your saying telus doesnt have anything but hspa and 3g going to their sim cards?
there website even says my phone is compatible! (after referencing my imei!)
it has to woork! i dont wanna use rogers.. even though thats who i originally planned on using before knowing telus was getting this network
It wont work.
timmacnaughton is right.
The euro Hero only has 2100 HSPA bands, which are not used in North America, Bellus uses 850/1900 (same as Rogers) for the HSPA network, however, the reason your phone is working on Rogers is because its on Edge (2G). Bellus doesnt have 2G to fallback on, only a 3G network.
2G bands are considered world frequencies, anywhere you go, if the carrier is GSM your phone will work with 2G, they use different bands but GSM phone are all quad-band 2G ready
So in all in all.. the european Hero will work on Rogers but Edge only and wont work at all on Bellus (Bell & Telus)
The best way to know if another device will work on Bellus, if you come from Rogers is just to see if you can use 3G on it. If your device cannot use 3G on Rogers, it wont work on Bellus.
ohh thats wierd, i thought telus was doing this because of the olympics, and if most people work on 2100, then they wont be able to use telus in which case they wont get the traffic from the olypmics :s
Lol, no.
Roaming contracts have been signed and delt with for a long time. Besides, Bellus's network cant even be used by a euro phone so yeah.
Anything that is roaming GSM will be on Rogers. even US phones, AT&T has a contract with Rogers for roaming.. in fact every GSM carrier has a contract with Rogers, they own roaming in canada for GSM. bling bling?!
Does the current HD2 that one can buy from various sources work on the ATT 3G network with a current ATT SIM card?
No, You will not get 3G. the current phones do not have the 850MHZ that ATT uses for 3G.
You have to wait till mid to end of this month when the phone is out with the 850MHZ.
Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
The phone will have 850MHZ.
I have been told it will should be out mid to end of this month in Australia.
I bought my HD from there and will be buying the HD2 as soon as it is out.
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Where is this info from? if this is true I will certainly be getting the hd2. Will it be 850/1900?
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From HTC australia. It'll come out for the Telstra's NextG network which runs on 850/2100. Since AT&T is overhauling their 1900mhz tower for the much faster 850mhz, the 850/2100 Telstra version is very ideal.
i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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i'm kinda afriad of buying the HTC HD2 that will come to the US in the Q1 of 2010.
I have one question about it ,,, if i bought it " US HD2 " ,, is it going to work outside the US and work with other carrier like the iPhone for example?
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Ok let's clear some things up. The "US HD2" is the T-Mobile version. T-MOBILE. What does this mean? If you're with AT&T and bought the "US HD2"/TMobile version, you can talk but will be limited to EDGE for data...no 3G. The HD2 is a quadband phone so you can use it to talk all over the world. Notice that i bold only the word talk? You won't be able to get 3G outside of the US unless the country/carrier you're visiting has 1700/2100 UMTS/3G band (which most don't). So if you're visiting other countries, you can talk all you want, but will more than likely stuck with EDGE for data. Period.
So let's recap:
1) "US HD2" = T-Mobile USA version
2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
3) HD2 is a quadband phone for voice. You can talk on pretty much any country.
4) HD2 is a dualband phone for UMTS/3G/data. You will be stuck with EDGE unless you have the correct band.
5) Tmobile sucks
6) ?????
7) PROFIT!
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2) Telstra NextG HD2 (australian) = compatible with AT&T 3G
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so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
thedeathblow said:
so if i bought from Telstra NextG, i can work with At&t 3G using at$t? and also TALKING if i'm using other carer like T-Mobile?
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Not at the same time. To use a carrier's service (data or voice) you need a sim from that carrier. So to use at&t data you need an at&t sim; to use T-mo voice you need a T-mo sim. The HD2 is not a dual-sim phone, so you can only have one sim installed at a time, and therefore can only be using either at&t or T-mobile at any given time. You can swap sims if the phone is unlocked to use the other carrier's services. I have no idea if the Telstra HD2 will be unlocked or is unlockable...maybe someone who is using a Telstra HD in the USA can respond to that issue.
Hope this helps.
so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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so i take it that T-mo and ATT use different frequencies for their 3g?
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Yep,
T-mobile use 1700MHz 3G frequency in the USA when most of 3G compatible devices (at&t) run on 850/1900MHz 3G/HSDPA freqencies
Hi,
I am a new user and I hope I am in the right place.
I just came back from Sydney Australia, and while I was there I bought teh HTC HD2 phone. WHen I got it it had all the Telstra crap on it and It was useless for me since I have t-mobile.
After I bought, I updated the ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
I had to use HSPL but I got it to work.
I just arrived to New York today and I could not wait to turn on the phone and see it in action. To my dispointment, I could not get 3G on it. The band and network are set to AUTO. The only thing I get is Edge.
I tried all manual bands and no luck
So then I tried to update the ROM to LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223\LEO_2.02.531.14_WWE_B28223
But it does not seem to work, no home screen just HTC and the windows start icon, phone and contacts appear on the bottom. Dont know whats wrong?? but perhaps some can shed some light.
Going back to ROM to RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe for now.
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
and what ROM is the best for this HTC HD2 phone and how can I get it?
Any tips would be awesome !
Thanks
richsark said:
Just want to know if I am on the right path?? Will this phone I bought work with t-mobile 3g service?
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That phone will not work with US T-Mobile. Sell it on ebay and wait for the US T-Mo HD2.
T-Mobile uses the weird 1700/2100 UTMS bands in the US, and pretty much only phones made specifically for it will work.
Crap'po'la
I was afraid of that. so I can use it, just wont get 3G
So no ROMS would help right?
Is there A ROM that is better then what I have now? I have RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Thanks
hey richsark ill take it off your hands
Hi, well... whats the offer? on a 3 day old phone??
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Hi, The phone I bought straight from the Telstra shop was unlocked. I did put my SIM in it and it registers as TMobile but no 3G. ( I did this in the States) Over there in Sydney with my Tmobile SIM it was 3G !
My guess is the bands are not compatible. I am stuck with Edge I guess... unless there is a way to make it work
Thanks
TMobile will have a roaming agreement with Telstra which means while in Australia you will have connected to the Telstra 3G network using the 850MHz frequency, but as a "visitor". Once back in the US the TMobile network uses 1700MHz which the Telstra version of the HD2 won't work with.
I travel a fair bit to the US and UK for work so prior to the HD2 I had a 850/1900/2100 UMTS phone which covered me for AT&T in the US. Now that AT&T are moving to use 850 more widely the lack of 1900 won't be a problem and 2100 is used widely in the UK and Europe.
Hi,
I bought an x10 from 3 hong kong, fully unlocked. I brought it back to Canada and there's no 3G! I checked all the frequencies and should be all compatible, entered rogers APNs and still no 3G.
Is it possible to get the x10 to work on 3G on rogers?
No unfortunately. The X10 you got from Hong Kong is the international version and it does NOT have the correct 3G bands for Canada/US. You do get quad band GSM but you can only get EDGE. You would need the American version of the X10 in order to get 3G.
Yeah, tough luck. I'm still confused as why AT&T and T-mobile has different 3G bands. Rogers and AT&T use WCDMA 1900 MHz bands while T-mobile and what feels like the rest of the world (just kidding, but at least Europe too) uses WCDMA 2100.
Stop me if I'm way out of my league but my question is WHY?
And isn't it possible to just buy the phone from Rogers directly, cash?
Yea you can buy the phone from Rogers directly with cash but it is still locked. You need to get it unlocked before using it on another carrier.
Why do you need it unlocked if in Canada Rogers is the only one using that frequency?
that's the problem. i can't use rogers phones since i travel a lot. i have to buy a world phone of some sort.
I heard you can root your phone and change the frequencies. is that possible?
I was assuming Flamso might need it for AT&T or some other carrier. Also, it's not just Rogers that uses the frequence. We do have Telus and Bell now. Buy an X10, get it unlocked and use it on Telus or Bell.
Telus and Bell aren't CDMA?
I know Fido and Rogers are the same.
You shouldnt have a tough time selling that one here. Doesnt it support the aws band that wind mobile runs on? AWS 1700 i think
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I was assuming Flamso might need it for AT&T or some other carrier. Also, it's not just Rogers that uses the frequence. We do have Telus and Bell now. Buy an X10, get it unlocked and use it on Telus or Bell.
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Well, no. My X10i works perfectly in Sweden with ALL providers.
any one know how to unlock rogers x10, so i can use it on teles..??
gavriel18 said:
You shouldnt have a tough time selling that one here. Doesnt it support the aws band that wind mobile runs on? AWS 1700 i think
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I have a x10i and it does work well on Wind i.e. 3G.
firin said:
any one know how to unlock rogers x10, so i can use it on teles..??
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what color you have? I have a BNIB unlocked X10i white wanting to trade for a X10 locked to rogers
email me if interested
i have the luster white x10i from one of the ebay seller in HK, and it works with T-mobile USA 3G network. UMTS band is 900/1700/2100. Rogers are using 800/850/1900/2100. I dont think you could change the frequency as it is part of the hardware.
Is there a way you can boost edge speed? i can't load facebook or weather with edge. it always times
Cheapest Canadian X10 unlock: http://www.mobileincanada.com/?l=en&u=all&coupon=facebook $5 CAD
T-Mo US and AT&T use different frequencies because spectrum is regulated. Whoever has the deeper pockets can buy more of it.
T-Mobile & Wind Mobile use the same 3G frequency (Band IV 1,700 Mhz) whereas Rogers and AT&T use Band V 850 Mhz.
Telus and Bell Mobility are also now HSPA so you can use unlocked Rogers 3G devices on their network too.
Bell has a tool on their website where you enter in your IMEI and it'll tell you if it's compatible: http://www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvWls_GettingStartedGuide.page#4
Scroll down to: Q: How do I check to see if I can bring my phone to Bell?
Tri3Dent said:
No unfortunately. The X10 you got from Hong Kong is the international version and it does NOT have the correct 3G bands for Canada/US. You do get quad band GSM but you can only get EDGE. You would need the American version of the X10 in order to get 3G.
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the Hong Kong X10i version will support T-mobile USA 3G network. the UMTS bandwidth is 1/4/8 which is 900/1700/2100. I got my luster white from hong kong ebay seller, and it works with T-mobile USA 3G network. For X10a (american version) the UMTS bandwidth is 800/850/1900/2100.
so that's why they have x10i and x10a
hardware difference for the 3G network to link with.
x10a is designed for north america
x10i can link on at&t's 3G just because it match
Just sign up with WIND mobile and enjoy because the X10i is compatible with the AWS band (same for T-Mobile down south). But if you are out of their coverage area then there won't be any 3G service (falls back to GSM + EDGE).
The X10a from Rogers will work with Telus and Bell HSPA 3G networks once you have it unlocked.
it does not matter what kind of x10 firmware you have. if your phone is originally a x10a, it has att 3g bands that works with rogers. if you flashed it with x10i firmware, you can still use the 3g because flashing the firmware does not change the bands.
x10i will work with rogers but you only get edge aka 2g.
Hi,
I wanted to get the Motorola Droid Milestone from selectgsm but i'm not sure if it would work on Rogers in Canada. I am not sure about the network capability, if there is anyone who can help me and tell me if this phone would work or not work it would be greatly appreciated. BTW on the website it says the modes are "GSM: 850/900/1800/1900Mhz 3G: HSDPA 900/2100Mhz" I have no idea wether these are supported by Rogers.
Unfortunately I am not able to post a link to the phone but if you need any more information on it feel free to message me for the link or just go on selectgsm and look at the Motorola Droid Milestone. (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE MOTOROLA MILESTONE NAM)
This phone will not work on Rogers' 3G network, but it will work on 2G (EDGE).
I believe the Telus version of the Milestone, if you manage to unlock it, will work on Rogers' 3G.
yes, you must use the telus version to and unlock it for 3g, and i highly advise getting the telus version
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This phone will not work on Rogers' 3G network, but it will work on 2G (EDGE).
I believe the Telus version of the Milestone, if you manage to unlock it, will work on Rogers' 3G.
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The phone is already unlocked, and what do you mean by the Telus version, i'm buying it from an independent supplier.
And what is the difference between 3g network and gsm becaus ei believe this phone would work on the Rogers GSM network.
3G is faster, GSM is 2G or Edge. Yes it will work, but not on 3G network
PurpleLlamaLover said:
3G is faster, GSM is 2G or Edge. Yes it will work, but not on 3G network
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ok thanks alot. I guess i'll get a different phone. I will either get the X10 or the Nexus One. I can get the X10 for 500 dollars straight. Which one do you guys suggest or think is better.
Nexus One of course
I'm interested in buying an I9000 in USA,but since i don't really have a clue if its "unlocked" or "simfree" I need your help.
My question is,is the I9000 locked to a certain cellular network like T959 which is locked to T-Mobile?
If I'm buying I9000 will I be able to use it in other countries and under other cellular network providers outside of the US?
Thanks in advance!
The I9000 is the international version of the Galaxy S. The US GSM versions are the AT&T Captivate and the T-Mobile Vibrant. The Galaxy S is quad-band GSM so should work worldwide, and has 900/1900/2100MHz tri-band 3G, which are the most commonly used bands outside the US.
In the US, AT&T uses 850/1900 and T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for 3G. Don't quote me on this, but reading around the issue it seems that the Galaxy S should be able to get 3G in areas where AT&T has 1900MHz services, but because it lacks the 1700MHz band required by T-Mobile, you won't get 3G on T-Mobile in the US.
The Galaxy S is not necessarily SIM-locked to any network, although it can be if it's bought through a carrier. If bought without a contract SIM-free it should be unlocked.
Im living in Israel and my cellular service provider uses 1800MHz so this device wont get a signal?
Happens im buying the device and its locked is there a way to unlock it?
if yes can u give me a website please?
thank u for ur answer.
daviler said:
Im living in Israel and my cellular service provider uses 1800MHz so this device wont get a signal?
Happens im buying the device and its locked is there a way to unlock it?
if yes can u give me a website please?
thank u for ur answer.
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buy the International UK version
that one is unlocked
and it has 1800 for voice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/GT-I9000
but you will only get 2G data
It has 1800MHz GSM (for calls/texts and GPRS data). I don't think 1800MHz is used as a 3G frequency? GSMArena says that in Israel, 850MHz and 2100MHz are used, though I don't know about specific carriers.
I've not used any unlocking services, but there are websites such as this, which offers unlocking for $30 USD (only given as an example, no recommendation implied):
http://www.unlockcellphonecode.com/product_info.php/code-for-unlocking-samsung-cell-phone-p-79
However, you should be able to buy an unlocked one. I don't know if you might be able to get one more locally for less, but, for example, this UK site sells unlocked phones (you can see the icon saying "SIM FREE UNLOCKED" under the phone):
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=F2D9CCC2-695B-4BF3-BAB6-010D64B31860
will i be able to unlock it myself if things go wrong?
and can u please give a recommended unlocking website for i9000.
ty!
daviler said:
will i be able to unlock it myself if things go wrong?
and can u please give a recommended unlocking website for i9000.
ty!
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it is not locked
there is no need to unlock something that is not locked
at the moment there are no unlocking website for the i9000 because there is no lock
Agreed. There is no reason for it to be locked if not bought with a contract. The I9000 is used by many carriers all around the world - there's no lock inherent to the phone.