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I love this forum and am on here every day. However, I find it hard to wake up in the morning and read through several pages of when is the update coming or flashing now etc.etc.etc.
I am not sure if a moderator has the abilityor not but, to me, It seems that all the useless posts should be cleaned up and removed from [DEV] threads. That way all the pertinant information reguarding the thread can be found in just a few pages instead of tons. Thus eliminating most of the how do you root, how do you flash, how do you, (well i think you get the picture).
Anywho,Just my humble opinion.
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If I was a mod I would clean all the Dev threads but well I am just a poster
haha you gotta be kidding me to clean up this thread would be to much hassle...would be easier just to bomb this whole sub forum and just start new
even to clean just the dev threads that are most important are filled with so much useless posts it would take a lot of work for a mod to clean up
Not Necessarily.
Not sure how vBulletin works, but I know when I used to mod on PHPbb/Punbb forums, moderators had the option to do batch deletes on posts.
don't make useless posts about useless posts...
Maybe there should be a Android Dev forum for the cdma hero like the gsm hero have.
Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
-AndyS-
realmrealm said:
Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
-AndyS-
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That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.
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That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.
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and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204
johnsongrantr said:
and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204
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stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.
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stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.
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look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!
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look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!
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No. I will post a question to him if I please. It's not hurting anyone else and its not "useless" as you implied with your reference to the title of this thread. His response could be of use to other people.
even though i know people will jump on my back for this I agree...some people on thius forum provide valuable help and services and then some people just think they are getting paid by xda to police forums....they act like they have stock in xda and have a say....although they may find some topics useless..some dont...so dont waste your time by acting like your gods gift to xda cause it legitimetly does no one any good
f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care
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f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care
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lets not do that people.
Some of us (noob and non-noob) do a few things that make XDA not as enjoyable for all of us.
1 - Please do NOT make MULTIPLE threads on the same topic (5 topics on page 1 are by the same person, 4 of which are all related to the same topic). Wouldn't ONE thread with everything be nicer for the OP and ALL of XDA?
2 - Edit your posts - if you forgot to say something or you need to word it better, just edit your initial post, no need to make more clutter.
3 - Be respectful... as much as you can tolerate.
4 - Try and help if you can.
5 - Rather than go back and forth in a thread (arguing/talking), PM the person. Hint, WE do NOT care.
6 - Developer's ROM threads are for THAT purpose, developing. It is NOT to be compared to another rom, and nobody cares if you are about to flash it.
7 - Post in the correct section! This is not hard... questions go in the Q&A. Apps/Themes go there... ONLY developers should post new threads in the development section. General is a catch all for everything else, related to the Vibrant.
8 - Spell Etiquette correctly (I'm flashing Gingerbread on my Nexus, doing this while backing up.... my excuse )
Also, if you feel a thread like this IS the issue.... you may need to look in the mirror.
may want to edit title, it's spelled etiquette...
just friendly heads up before the flaming starts lol
psst...! i think you mean "etiquette".
you might wanna add "please take your disagreements outside of the thread or just agree to disagree".
i dunno about you, but i'm getting sick of seeing arguments when reading threads in the dev section. ~_~
Is this topic meant for that person that rides x's?
WOW, thanks guys... my mind is somewhere else. Fixed the OP. I will continue to add if more come up, but these seemed needed now.
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Is this topic meant for that person that rides x's?
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It's meant for EVERYONE. Not trying to call anyone out.
Awesome post. If the xda app had a thanks button, I'd use it. I'd be using the report button, too. A LOT.
Mods need to bust out the ban stick and use it excessively.
Bionix Frost
Dragon Kernel v5 Test4
This is a result of xriderx66 making three of the exact same thread right? Cuz that ****s annoying.
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This is a result of xriderx66 making three of the exact same thread right? Cuz that ****s annoying.
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Posts like this are ALSO the reason I made this thread... actually.
Lets not go down this road, it's exactly what I am saying to not do. No offense!
I agree with all of your points.
Sticky please!
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I agree with all of your points.
Sticky please!
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richiehd said:
I agree with all of your points.
Sticky please!
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christpuncher said:
This is a result of xriderx66 making three of the exact same thread right? Cuz that ****s annoying.
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I'm sorry if i did, but which are the exact same threads? I'm not sure i made the exact same threads 3 times.
Can you possibly tell me their title or link?
Here is another one. Comments in a rom are supposed to be for that rom only. Ie. Bugs fixes, performance, etc. You should NOT compare roms.. Ex. " boomers" rom is much faster than this... " comments like this are pointless and do nothing for the development of the rom the thread is about.
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I'm sorry if i did, but which are the exact same threads? I'm not sure i made the exact same threads 3 times.
Can you possibly tell me their title or link?
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I think these are the links you were looking for,
Similar:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981495
Not as similar but could probably have been combined:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981295
Doesn't bother me though, any activity in the vibrant forum is good activity to me : )
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I think these are the links you were looking for,
Similar:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981495
Not as similar but could probably have been combined:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981295
Doesn't bother me though, any activity in the vibrant forum is good activity to me : )
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I'm sorry?
I posted the first thread "vibrant comes with 2.2!" because i'd made a thread a day or two ago asking if Vibrants now come with 2.2
Everyone on the thread said NO.
I wanted to let people know that it does, because i just got a refurb with 2.2.
the second was a question kind-of.
I was wondering why people were hating on stock ROMS because i had great experiences with it. (not 2.1) Everyone on this forum says "STAY AWAY FROM STOCK, ITS LAGGY!!!!" I wanted to oppose that because i had no problems what-so-ever with that.
I don't see how their related just because they both have something to do with 2.2 though.
I really dont see what ya'lls problem w/xrider is, his posts may have been similar but they are still different.
This is an open forum and with so many new people coming and going it will always be like this,theres no way to control it,and in trying to do so will only create undue stress
The only way it can be some what "controled" is to make it a closed forum :-(
And by editing does it bring in new viewers not likely.
Imho i dislike cyber arguing but some times it apperently takes a lil cyber flogging to set some straight or get rid of the bashers
This is in no way a negitive post towards the OP nor anyone else
Bionix-V 1.3 w/a Splash of Color
I'd be content with from here on nobody identifying a person.... I was not trying to call one person out by my post.
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I'd be content with from here on nobody identifying a person.... I was not trying to call one person out by my post.
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Just to be clear i didnt think you were but others did bring him up and part of my reference was meant to be directed at those who did.
I apologize if in my statement you felt i did.
As your op was ment as a general statement so was mine. Sorry i didnt clarify that.
I believe we all fit into your general statement at some point or another
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I'd be content with from here on nobody identifying a person.... I was not trying to call one person out by my post.
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+1 Agree totally. Singling out some person just creates a feud and that is rarely productive. The real issue is for people to try and remember that when writing in the thread, sarcasm, double entendres, and other other verbal expressions rarely make sense in written form. Plus, the macho adolescent comments do not go over well either.
My best advice and rule that always works is this :
Try to make your comments so if your parents or some one you respect was reading they would understand what you are saying and the intent.
Follow that rule and you will never have problems (of course unless you are a sociopath-)
It's pretty sad that I have had to post in a big thread regarding this and had to directly try and PM a moderator to have this done and still not had this taken care of. I have people asking questions regarding the poll and I have to tell them to disregard it because I, the creator of my own thread, can't delete a poll that I made. Makes no sense.
So, FOR THE LAST TIME, WILL A MODERATOR DELETE THE POLL ON THIS THREAD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959776
Thanks. Appreciate it. I'll be bumping and re-posting until the poll gets deleted. I shouldn't have to do 3 different things to have a problem taken care of that shouldn't even be a problem.
I'm sure that you are a helpful person, and that many people appreciate your work here,...
But can't help feeling that this is a bit over aggressive and unnecessary.
Over a poll.
Posted out in public.
With "threats" to keep bumping until your (frankly minor) problem is taken care of.
Maybe you could just make a Big Red Notice on the OP about the poll?
(editing, so I don't bump.) : I just don't think this will endear you to the XDA staff, or community, ya know?
It wouldn't be over-aggressive or unnecessary if this wasn't the 3rd time I've tried to get the poll deleted. If the moderators who are put in the position to moderate would check their private messages on here and on IRC, this never would have happened.
I will keep re-posting this if this thread is deleted and I will keep bumping it until a moderator, whose job it is to moderate, does his job.
It's a simple concept, really.
I PM'd toast. I PM'd him on IRC. I posted in a big thread for people to report or make requests to moderators. Nothing happened. I'm not going to put it on my thread as I shouldn't have to. It's my thread. I should be able to delete my own polls. It makes no sense that I can't.
Oh yeah. Bump.
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I PM'd toast. I PM'd him on IRC. I posted in a big thread for people to report or make requests to moderators. Nothing happened. I'm not going to put it on my thread as I shouldn't have to. It's my thread. I should be able to delete my own polls. It makes no sense that I can't.
Oh yeah. Bump.
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yeah, i understand... but remember, there is only one moderator specifically for the evo section... i am sure he has a lot of pms, and a lot of other things to do as well.
aimbdd said:
yeah, i understand... but remember, there is only one moderator specifically for the evo section... i am sure he has a lot of pms, and a lot of other things to do as well.
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Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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novanosis85 said:
Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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#teamlose
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#teamfail
"We jizzed our pants when cm added our 4g fix!!"
We report to mods and cry about thieves.
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novanosis85 said:
Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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lol....funny and true.
Edit: Anyone got salt for my popcorn?
I believe only admins can remove polls, not mods. Is mikechannon still around? Try sending him a pm.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
not wrong... because i said mod. There are plenty of admins, but aren't they not for any specific section? look at the bottem of the general forum section, you see that number of mods? .... fail.
I've seen plenty of Senior Moderators from other boards step in here and close threads that they aren't in charge of moderating. If they can do that, they can delete a poll. I don't understand why it's this difficult to have such a simple task done? I should be able to delete it myself, but can't. Silliest thing ever.
I was told by a senior mod in this thread that senior mods can edit polls and admins can remove them. According to this thread, there are three admins (including mikechannon who removed my poll when I pmed him about it). So to remove a poll, you need to pm one of those three people.
btw, that first thread I mentioned that said to reach out to an admin is the first result when searching the term "how to remove a poll" (without quotes). just sayin.
for some perspective, I have a ton of people in my office that we allow access to edit certain information, but none of them have access to remove it entirely. I imagine admins vs mods are set up the same way. Good luck.
Voted...awesome poll.
Now we're getting to the point where nothing belongs anywhere. Seriously, stop ****ting on us productive and helpful members. And now apparently voicing your opinion doesn't belong anywhere either. This place used to be a fun and open community, now it seems like a place for these "moderators" to openly abuse their power.
Couldn't agree more. COMMUNICATION moderators!
this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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sadly +1 thomasskull666, qbking77, and Chris41g you are all right. this ubermod heavy handedness is ridiculous.
you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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thomasskull666 said:
Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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jarcher1971 said:
so Machx0r, or should i call you Cory Charlton, famous cut and paste dev of the smoking log. what did you find in Chris41g's post that was copywritten material. i don't see any at all. who appointed you forum sherrif anyway. if you don't like what you see, just go away. you are not contributing to EPIC development one bit with all this.
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(Wish I had the option to save sent replies prior to sending this):
<Summary>The McGraw hill book with a clear copyright of 2008 on page 3 or whaterver</Summary>
Call me a troll all you want but I believe that stealing is wrong. Sue me...
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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If you are too blind to see the issue then leave. YOU aren't helping, you're making this harder on yourself.
Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
the issue is that any thread regarding "epic general chat" in the "epic general chat" section is closed, yet numerous unrelated flaming, trolling threads remain open.. how is a thread asking where to begin learning to develop for the epic off topic in the "epic" general chat?
Ok, so which threads were closed that you feel shouldn't have been? Apart from the two that were closed by Mr. Clown?
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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Here is the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
chris41g posted a link to a copyrighted McGraw hill PDF. The thread was closed and the link was removed (partially, still available in a quote). and now the whining begins about how it's unfair that you prohibit them from stealing the hard work of others...
Seriously? Unfortunately...
PS: There is also the starter thread that was perhaps closed out of line but really whine about it like this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176684
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
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What planet are you from? The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour. Obviously there is some sort of disconnect, so please sort out your internal troubles before coming in here flaunting your moderator status. Chris41g and I have been here for quite some time so we're no stranger to the overpowering by mods, but at some point it has to stop and I think now is a great time. We go months and months without seeing a single moderator and now all of a sudden you guys come in and starting closing/deleting threads left and right with no explanation. Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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False:
Mr. Clown said:
Thank you for your good intentions, there is a great forum in this site (Chef central) where everybody has access and learn all about this.
Also, you are breaching rule number 9, posting copyright material.
Thread closed and links removed,
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He even thanked you for your intentions...
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The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour.
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Can you please point me to these "helpful and meaningful threads" that have been closed? (aside from the two recent ones closed by Mr. Clown)? Then we can establish the problems.
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Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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Feel free to PM MikeChannon, the forum admin.
if you cant read....
he closed it because he said it belonged elsewhere..
then went on to say, ALSO it contained copywrighted material. now, since that issue is cleared up. can you get off my nuts about the book?
1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
Not sure but I have been running code fire x BR2 with matrix kernel in the original section and loving this combo!:thumbup:
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OK, if someone could please move this to the QA thread please. Didnt know if it had to do with this thread if it should be in here... wasnt really a question about the nexus
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FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
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Agreed
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1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
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original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
Original Android Dev has "ORIGINAL" DEV. It has official ports and works that are ORIGINAL and NEW.
The other has port and custom built roms.
Hope this helps and IB4L
Its to fake out all the people that like posting questions in the developers thread.
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original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
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Ahh, makes perfect sense, thanks.
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Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Nuff bromance thread jacking.
Ask questions in the question sub forum...common sense ain't so common.
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Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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To inform ppl & to direct our newer members to the correct forums is one thing, But to make fun of or to ridicule users is another & not acceptable let alone helpful. Its because of [email protected]$$ comments like that, that alot of users have left to other Android forums. Bravo you deserve a star for that...NOT.
If you actually read my post above you would see that I was not referring to our members that were helpful, But only the ones that creat a bad user experience for our newer/older members alike. Kind of like you. I rest my case.
There's a reason that not everybody is a mod. Thankfully you are not
MODS please close/move this thread to the correct forum already.
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
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It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
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My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Rather than carrying out this conversation over a thread that has already been answered, I went ahead and PM'ed you to prevent spamming up this thread.
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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I agree with you Hung. Your responses have been well-written and appropriate. I also agree that Dave's posts have been more instigating than anything else. However, I think it would be best to take this to PM as I have. I wrote out a nice response, similar to the kind you have written and sent it via PM so it doesn't look like we are arguing on the boards. Let's keep it clean. I encourage Dave to do the same and reply via PM
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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Save the drama. I'm not going to babysit you (I'm not a mod) or go digging through your posts trying to prove to everyone what's already been said & done/seen. Your posts speak for themselves, need I say more?.
Your previous posts where anything but appropriate but everyone is entitled to their opinion... Even Stryder.
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What the hell, u asked so here I am babysitting (last time Hung)
Hung0702 said:
(1) -Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
(2) -It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like.
(3) -You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
(4) -you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!"
(5) - "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
(6) - Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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(1) Abuse aimed directly at another forum member (directly at 2 members actually)
(2) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members + Name calling
(3) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
(4) Spreading lies about other forum members who said no such thing or did such a thing
(5) Making more false statements about other forum members who said or did no such thing
(6) Borderline Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
Yeah... Real appropriate. I'm done wasting my time with you. I could go on but I'll stop here as I have more important things to do than argue with ... well ...you
Hows that for (in your words) "exact"?
You create a horrible abusive user experience here at XDA. I'm ashamed to have even replyed to you.
It's no wonder why so many people have left XDA to goto other forums when opinionated extremists like yourself are belittling & harassing every new member that comes along.
You talk nonsense to me & I'll put you in your place. Nothing you could do or say could faze me the slightest, But new members who haven't been around as long feel harassed, threatened & uncomfortable when you abuse them (like you tried to do with me & NoLunchBox_) & they leave for other forums.
Recognize
MODERATORS please move this thread to the proper forum & close. The OP got his answer and now it has just become an abuse thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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