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The benefits of root?

I have a new Sprint HTC Hero and was wondering what I would benefit from rooting my new phone.

everything
pretty much anything you would like.
one of my favorite functions is WIFI tether for my laptop and iTouch.
another cool feature is the latest "Fresh" rom. which is currently 1.1
its much faster than the stock sprint rom. plus its pretty!
P.S. and if you ever want to go back to stock you can do that as well!

if nothing else
I rooted my phone for this one reason. I wanted to be able to do back ups of my entire system that way if anything happened, then I didnt have to spend hours redoing everything. eventually though I have become a flash addict. I run fresh 1.1 for my daily rom and I play with AOSP 1.6 and flipzmod and companys 2.1 beta at night. all 3 are great but fresh 1.1 is the most stable

wtphoto said:
I rooted my phone for this one reason. I wanted to be able to do back ups of my entire system that way if anything happened, then I didnt have to spend hours redoing everything. eventually though I have become a flash addict. I run fresh 1.1 for my daily rom and I play with AOSP 1.6 and flipzmod and companys 2.1 beta at night. all 3 are great but fresh 1.1 is the most stable
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very well put, i forgot about mr nandroid!

Thanks for the info. I have just one more question. If I root my phone can I just update it to software version 2.1 when Sprint releases it in the very near future, or will I need to wait for some kind of release from this site?
Thanks.

you'll most likely need to update using a rom from this site. The good thing is, that there will be a release here of it within 24-48 hours.

obelisk79 said:
you'll most likely need to update using a rom from this site. The good thing is, that there will be a release here of it within 24-48 hours.
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Why is that? Why can't he flash to an official rom then update?

Well actually you can go ahead and get the 2.1 update from sprint when it's released, that will undo root though, and since no one has seen it re-obtaining root would take a while for someone to figure out again. That and the 2.1 will probably be available here in leaked form before sprint releases it anyway at least all my windows mobile phones saw leaks on XDA before the carrier. Root is good and should be worth it if you are the kind of guy that likes playing with their tech instead of just using it, otherwise you may be getting yourself into more than you're willing to put up with longterm.

If he flashes the official 2.1 rom when it is released, it is very likely that will invalidate current methods to root the cdma hero. Then you'll have to wait for a new root method to be found. It is also very possible/likely that upgrading to 2.1 via the official RUU once released will make it impossible to flash the 1.5 based RUU's to regain root.
So effectively he could update but would lose the capability to root the device and all of the resulting benefits it offers until a new root method is discovered.
Edit: thezero4 beat me to it, and is also very correct.

my bad wrong thread

Thanks for all of your input and information. It was very helpful and my phone is now rooted and running the fresh rom. Awesome.
I'm still new to this.
How do you backup your phone.
How would you put everything back to stock if needed.
Thanks so much for any help.

schultzy001 said:
Thanks for all of your input and information. It was very helpful and my phone is now rooted and running the fresh rom. Awesome.
I'm still new to this.
How do you backup your phone.
How would you put everything back to stock if needed.
Thanks so much for any help.
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to perform a nandroid backup there are 2 options. you can either use the fresh pre-kitchen and perform your backups and restores from you comp or you can boot into recovery and go to backup/restore and then go to nandroid backup (this is also how you would restore any of your back ups).
as far as returning to stock. If you didn't make a backup before you flashed fresh then you need to download the stock RUU file here.
BTW help support flipz and what he does for us, visit his site and click on the adds.

Rooted now what.......

I have been around these forums a while flashed more than my share of roms. I want stock Rom but no bloatware. I rooted it but now what I still have ATT apps on it. How do you actually remove them. I tried titanium backup but it said I needed busybox I got it but it won't install. Someone please tell me the noob way to remove bloatware.
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tbone22 said:
I have been around these forums a while flashed more than my share of roms. I want stock Rom but no bloatware. I rooted it but now what I still have ATT apps on it. How do you actually remove them. I tried titanium backup but it said I needed busybox I got it but it won't install. Someone please tell me the noob way to remove bloatware.
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Haven't considered searching or reading stickies or existing threads have you?

You might look into this ROM - its basicly what you have but pre stripped of the ATT apps, a few needed apps and a few well needed ui tweaks. Highly reccomend it and it works with the Android Market showing all apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708434

Yes I have and the ones I have read don't explain things as if you are new to android operation. I can do near anything WM but am a complete noob to android.
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tbone22 said:
Yes I have and the ones I have read don't explain things as if you are new to android operation. I can do near anything WM but am a complete noob to android.
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Just load the latest liberated rom from recovery. It is stock with the crap removed.

No I just want to remove bloatware, I know that Rom is stock LIKE but still has some issues. I have flashed every HTC phone I have ever owned and there is a endless cycle it seems like every cook keeps sending out new version fixing what was missing in the last release. And no matter how perfect their Rom is there is always something glitchy or something doesn't work. So with this phone atleast until I familiarize myself wit the android OS I want to stay stock.
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First, you're wrong about that ROM. It may be semantics, but that ROM is stock meaning it's taken the stock ROM (kernel) and the additions are merely the most commonly requested features, e.g. removal of bloatware, ability to sideload, etc.
Second, for just removing apps go here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735255 And while you might be an Android noob the rules of the xda forums are the same regardless of OS. Search before asking, and don't create new threads unnecessarily. If you have any questions about that specific process reply in that thread.

And a note specific to the rom I listed, as I came from WM too, when you update to the newer release of the rom you can opt to keep the phone as is (apps, files, etc). So its not like you are starting from scratch each time you update. I am on the R012 latest realease with ZERO issues so far and I am an avid user of all the features. Yes rooting your phone and updating the rom is harder than a WM executable... the first time. Every update after that is simply a reboot, flash on the phone and finish booting, much easier!

you mean you dont have to set everything back up again.....

Some you do, some you dont. I just updated my liberated build R006 to R012 and at first thought the update didnt take. But isntead, it updated the core without loosing everything. So awesome, every WM rom update wiped my phone out, truly sucked. Long live Android!

I went ahead and flashed the liberated Rom and it seems to be fine I had some problemswith my contacts but worked it out. The only thing is it doesn't have the over the air update on it so now I am going to have to flash another Rom when it is added. Never ending cycle. But if it doesn't reset every thing like you said then it should be no problem.. I just remember every flash on WM meant resetting all your stuff back up. Thanks for the input.
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Need help with the mytouch!

I hav the epic 4g and the hero before this on the day it came out and all this mytouch talk is confusing....
I wanna help my friend use android tether so we can play over xbox live. Don't care about lag h just wants to get on for the party since he's only gonna be playing halo wars for the time being....
So if any of you can help id appreciate it ^_^
His mytouch has no 3.5mm jack so idk if that would mean anything...he also has cm running on it (an extremely old version) so I wanna put him back to stock first so that I can put a nice clean flash on whatever rom has usb tethering enabled, so if anyone knows how to do that that'd be great too!
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I hav the epic 4g and the hero before this on the day it came out and all this mytouch talk is confusing....
I wanna help my friend use android tether so we can play over xbox live. Don't care about lag h just wants to get on for the party since he's only gonna be playing halo wars for the time being....
So if any of you can help id appreciate it ^_^
His mytouch has no 3.5mm jack so idk if that would mean anything...he also has cm running on it (an extremely old version) so I wanna put him back to stock first so that I can put a nice clean flash on whatever rom has usb tethering enabled, so if anyone knows how to do that that'd be great too!
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There are tethering apps on the market. Have you tried any of them. You can use the superwipe to wipe the phone and get a clean install so you dont have to go back to stock.

The tethering apps on the market are trials
And superwipe? WIll that just wipe the current rom or take any and all modifications off? Id prefer the latter so that I will be able to tell exactly what's wrong if anything goes wrong because thered be no unknown variables for me
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A_Flying_Fox said:
The tethering apps on the market are trials
And superwipe? WIll that just wipe the current rom or take any and all modifications off? Id prefer the latter so that I will be able to tell exactly what's wrong if anything goes wrong because thered be no unknown variables for me
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Here is a guide to unroot get to 2.2 ota stock and root again so you will have the new radio spl if you want it.
1.) Follow the directions here to downgrade to 1.6 donut and upgrade to stock Android 2.2 and Use the Root method there ~ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807899
Or you can go to ezterry's 14mb hack page if you have fastboot enabled on your pc and grab those if you want. Here is the link to that. You have to have fastboot enabled and again follw the instructions to the T. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
The superwipe will wipe everything just like fastboot erase system -w but supposed to be better i will find you links.
Here is a link to superwipe. Just follow the instructions there to a T. You have to power down in recovery and boot directly back to recovery for it to work. Also make a backup FIRST. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834812&highlight=superwipe

Are you wanting to use one of the newer roms or older? That might make a difference in deciding to upgrade to the new radio/spl or not. Im not sure if any of the newer roms have tethering in it or not. Thats why i ask. I know the older ones do. Like Enomther's 1.6 for example

Well any working rom will do. You've been a great help!!!!!!!!!!
also, by older roms do you mean pre-official froyo? Or just like a rom that was last updated in november? Because if you mean pre-froyo I'll downgrade to 1.6 and then just go on from there to see if it'll work and then once I see its possible I'll put him on oficial froyo and tell him he's gonna have to wait or be stuck with the first os he had (he hated 1.6 LOL!)
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Well any working rom will do. You've been a great help!!!!!!!!!!
also, by older roms do you mean pre-official froyo? Or just like a rom that was last updated in november? Because if you mean pre-froyo I'll downgrade to 1.6 and then just go on from there to see if it'll work and then once I see its possible I'll put him on oficial froyo and tell him he's gonna have to wait or be stuck with the first os he had (he hated 1.6 LOL!)
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If he hated 1.6 have you thought about 2.1? What is he on now? I believe there are 2.1 roms out there with tethering in it already. I believe you can rip the tethering out of a rom and just install it on your phone with whatever you have flashed at the time as well.
And yes i mean pre-froyo. Donut or eclair
Also have you tried barnacle wifi tether. I hear it works. I dont personally use tethering

[Q] Cyandogen 7/ 2.2.3 mytouch 4g???

Now that i am a proud owner of a rooted mytouch 4g, the possibilities are endless.
There are a few things i wish to know though
1: I have Gingerbread 2.2.3 on the phone, but theres no mail, message, and other widgets that i liked when i had the stock rom, does anybody know where i get those widgest?
2: After loading up my contacts from my SD, i get a lot of multiples, and there no way for me to delete them. I would have to delete them one by one and its annoying, is there a way around that?
3. Say if i wanted to go back to the stock rom, but still keep S=off, is that still possible even with CM7? Even if i wanted to use the Desire S Rom can i still do so?
4. What are the best ROMS for CM7, i know due to the fact that its a new update, but what is the best one out there and its stable
For now thats all I can think of atmm, Thank you all again =]

kenneth11414 said:
Now that i am a proud owner of a rooted mytouch 4g, the possibilities are endless.
There are a few things i wish to know though
1: I have Gingerbread 2.2.3 on the phone, but theres no mail, message, and other widgets that i liked when i had the stock rom, does anybody know where i get those widgest?
2: After loading up my contacts from my SD, i get a lot of multiples, and there no way for me to delete them. I would have to delete them one by one and its annoying, is there a way around that?
3. Say if i wanted to go back to the stock rom, but still keep S=off, is that still possible even with CM7? Even if i wanted to use the Desire S Rom can i still do so?
4. What are the best ROMS for CM7, i know due to the fact that its a new update, but what is the best one out there and its stable
For now thats all I can think of atmm, Thank you all again =]
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Ok,
1) this should belong in the MT4G Q&A forum not general software development..
2) gingerbread is 2.3 not 2.2 that's froyo
3) I'm sure there's a utility on the market for multiple contacts
4) yes you can switch between roms but make sure you have clockwork mod 3.0.2.4 or 3.0.0.6 so you dont run into any issues with partition support.
5) CM7 is a ROM you do not flash ontop of CM7, you replace it. Which is why when you flash a Rom you must wipe data and cache most of the time unless updating to the newer version of the same Rom.
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[Q] Been away - what's my next move after Royal Ginger 1.6?

Hi guys,
I don't like when people post "how do I root my phone?" when you can search 100 threads to root your phone, so I was hesitant to post this, but I've been away a year or whatever it's been, and I see a whole bunch of new ROMS that are totally unfamiliar to me.
I chose Royal Ginger 1.6 (based on android 2.3.3) way back when (still have it) because I thought it was a stable, non-SENSE plain android ROM that was much faster than the sense that came with my mytough 4g. And I was right. I know it was updated to 2.0 and then the DEV stopped, or whatever the demise was.
I didn't update to 2.0 at the time since I have one of the "bad chips", so it wasn't compelling enough to risk something that was working fine.
I'm getting the itch again to update my phone - it's cheaper than getting a new 4.0 phone and a new contract and $$$. Figured if I slap jelly bean on this it'll make it feel like I got a free upgrade.
Mostly I'm after something that is solid and not something I'd look back and say "why didnt I just leave well-enough lone?" where I'd lose functionality in things I'm used to. (camera etc)
What's the new Royal Ginger nowadays? What's the no brainer ROM to flash when reliability and compatibility is concerned?
Should I go back to entertaining CM nightlies? It seems that some of the andoid v3 ROMS are stable, and what about andoid v4-- isnt that too much of a reach to make compatible with this aging glacier that we have? Not too buggy to use a jelly bean aopk 4.x.x on this?
Thanks for any input

If u wanna stay aosp wuth everything working I suggest cm7.2 stable or nightly that GB For ICS/JB I suggested AospX, or Dark Jellybelly or the port O.O all pretty stable with little to no bugs
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for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...

acsi007 said:
for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...
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I plan on building the milestone release tonight, so go ahead and take your time into getting back into things (unless you're eager to try BR7 ). I might be able to get it released tonight as well if everything goes right.
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Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks

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Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks
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He likely had an older version of clockwordmod (someone else had similar trouble on another ics/jb rom) so just make sure you update it if you haven't in a while. I'd also suggest using 4ext if you're not using it already as people on cwm seem to be having trouble using it with the OTA Updater. Also, it allows you to wipe everything you need to flash a rom with just one option.

I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?

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I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?
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You can still use ROM Manager with 4ext. Yes, just flash it right over.
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