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HD2 Web Connectivity Issues and Analysis

Seriously people....
I've seen lots of threads recently. People are complaining that the HD2's data connection cuts out, leaving them unable to access the Internet from their phones for who knows how long. I know, it IS kinda annoying...But the thing is..
I can tell you this IS NOT a hardware problem. It's something to do with either the OS....or something in the phone's registry settings which no one has picked up yet...I hear that phones like the TP2 do not have this error, and I agree. My old unbranded Touch Pro 2 was brilliant, I could use it for IM and texts anywhere...LOL I used to sit on the Bus while people stared at my phone, while I was on Messenger talking to my phone. Anyways, here's what I wanna tell you guys. Hope I help out everyone in some way or another.
What I have:
HD2
3 Mobile Sim-So yeah, My Operator is 3 UK
Living in London, UK
Using ENERGY's 17th March Version ROM
HUSPA, HDSPA Enabled
What I've noticed:
The phone cuts out the signal when the transition between 3G and H occurs in the icons. As a result, the Internet cuts out temporarily, and programs such as Messenger lose connectivity for a while. For example, when the icon is on H, and no one's talking on Messenger, the Icon changes back to 3G....during this moment it cuts out sometimes..until it reverts back to the H icon (Got that? I know, it's a little long and complicated when I word it like that, but read it out and it'll make sense xD)
Now, whenever I have the phone connected to my PC/Laptop (Either as a Wi Fi Router or through the cable and then using Internet Sharing, either way, the phone does NOT change back to 3G, it stays constantly on H (Mind you, I usually download during this period). Anyways, the point being that the connection is VERY stable and constant, when in this state, connected to my PC/Laptop and the device is accessing the Internet through my phone's Data Connection. So what do you all think? And what have YOU found out? Leave your responses and ideas below

Some things I have found out are, if you Enable ONLY HUSPA in the Settings/Connectivity options, the connections seem to be more stable. Furthermore, if you really want to, Disable Advanced Connections, stay only on 3G, and enjoy a LOT of stability (At the cost of slower speed surfing and downloading )

My HD2 does not connect at all anymore. I called in to support because I completely lost data connectivity (web browser, email, slacker, whatever - no connection). They verified no troubles on their end. I moved the sim to my old touch pro (running Energy ROM w/ winmo 6.5 and Sense 2.1) and that phone connects fine. So it's not the SIM, and it's not the network.
I've also done a hard reset to get back to stock and still have the problem, which tells me that it's not a registry / software setting.
They only thing that leaves is faulty hardware - or firmware that a ROM hard reset wouldn't affect. Either way I need to replace the device altogether.
Unfortunately, tmo is out of stock and so I can only wait for a more to become available before it can be replaced.

csharper said:
My HD2 does not connect at all anymore. I called in to support because I completely lost data connectivity (web browser, email, slacker, whatever - no connection). They verified no troubles on their end. I moved the sim to my old touch pro (running Energy ROM w/ winmo 6.5 and Sense 2.1) and that phone connects fine. So it's not the SIM, and it's not the network.
I've also done a hard reset to get back to stock and still have the problem, which tells me that it's not a registry / software setting.
They only thing that leaves is faulty hardware - or firmware that a ROM hard reset wouldn't affect. Either way I need to replace the device altogether.
Unfortunately, tmo is out of stock and so I can only wait for a more to become available before it can be replaced.
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Which phone company are you with? I experienced the same problem with 3UK in North London for a couple of months up until the beginning of last week but it was a problem at 3's end, not mine. Other people have been experiencing similar issues with non-3 phones in London (http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=102192).

yes, I had problems in London too before Good Friday. Especially on Tues+Wed.
Others around me inthe library also had similar issues with their iphones. I kept on switching the baseband and modes, and reapplying my 3G settings to keep it alive and solve the outages.
Most people with issues were on vodafone or O2 (like me).
It would work, then cut, then work.
I thought at first it was because I had a custom ROM, but iphone users had the same - and lots of timeouts on requests.
I DO believe however that running ROMS like energy's and Dutty's HG 1.7 with 2.10 (which I'm currently running) bases as 2_08 radios is not great for the uk and exacerbates the connection issue. 2_07 is better...and in any event we SHOULD be using 1.72 based roms with 2_09 radio.
I have also noticed that on COM5 23544 builds the opera mobile 9.7 and 10 google boxes do not work. They come up as failed connection, but then i click on teh link and it works...weird huh???
So I think last week was because of network faults in London. But in general, these 2.10 based ROMS and their radios are not ideal for stability.
I had perfect call and HSDPA stability with 1.48stock+2_09 radio.
Having turned to a 23544 rom (Dutty's HG) with 2_08 radio I've had much less call and internet stability (and quality) over the stock with 2_09.

jakem said:
Which phone company are you with?
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T-Mobile US.

PPP, RMNET and RADIO

I just wanted to let you guys know that if you have a lot of crashes and/or problems with PPP data, you might try to change your Radio to one of the latest versions.
I'm curently using the energyrom(posted on this forum) and I always used the 2.07.50
Radio rom. With this Radio, I had a lot of problems with the Mattc build and the froyostone build concerning PPP data. I sometimes didn't saw the arrows, the phone froze,bad reception etc...etc...
After playing with the latest Radio, all my problems are gone. The 3G/HSDPA works as it should be. So for the folks who are still using RMNET like I used too, it might be worth changing your Radio to see if it fixes anything.

Hopefully it works for some people, but it doesn't for me.
I've always used 2.12 radio but PPP just does not work at all.
I'm still trying to work out exactly what prevents some people from using PPP.

I also had to use APN backup to configure my APN settings properly. Before that, it would'nt work for me either.

Try 2.10.50_26. Ppp works for me
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im using whats in my sig and PPP works for me.

2.10 here too.
PPP works fine.
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How far r we with the new build 1.2 can u give us in time waited all day today its 1am in UK now
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yeah changing the radio fixed alot of my bigs

+1 for radio 2.10. I tried 2.12 and got freezes with PPP. Going to the radio below and PPP acts just like RMNet. I get the occasional 10-15 second freeze when recovering in WiFi, but I never get that in 3G/H mode.

PPP never work for me, tried all available radios for TMOUS, I don't get service at all.

+1 for 2.10.50.26 never had a problem with PPP, and I've used them all.

I use my ROMs clubbed with 2.10.50.26 as Radio and mattc/shub/hyper all work great PPP/RMNET/Wifi/Bluetooth
I guess it depends on what core files are being used on WM side...i use 2.14 base which came with the same radio as mentioned above and has best compatibility with the core files.
Yesterday, I got 1% hr standby with Push On and Bluetooth headset connected and few SMS....thats very much comparable to WM itself...however, sometimes it suddenly drains and I suspect some bg prog for that ...

Just adding a different approach to the story... Could the carrier have something to do with this??

I don't think the Radio version has anything to do with the hard freezes.. As I've tried every radio version and winmo compatible roms for android builds and still, I would get a hard freeze each and everytime.. It would work for a period of time, but once it disconnects and try to reconnect, it freezes.. Sometimes it would just freeze as soon as you boot Android.. And that only happens when I input the right APN settings for my internet plan.. Or when it starts accepting data's.. So I think it's got something to do with the Carrier, APN and Proxy settings.. Either you have to have the right internet settings for the Android phones/plan, or it would freeze your phone.. Anyway, that's just what I think.. RMNET on the other hand is rock solid! It doesn't matter whether you put a Proxy or not, it would connect just fine without freezing.. Just my observation..

For me only rmnet work, ppp never worked. I am in Switzerland by Sunrise. Is there someone being by Sunrise Switzerland and having ppp working?
I am running hd2 mattc 1.6b.

for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.

noellenchris said:
for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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Thank you for the info. I was getting crazy.. I had the Matt 1.7 ppp working for 2 days no problem at all. But after 2 days I'm having intermittent hard freeze when I start the apn. ..
I was going to try with a 2.10. Radio.. but after your post I will kelp 2.12 radio and move to rmnet
Thanks for sharing

I'm on 3 in Australia
In my case both PPP and RMNET are working for normal Internet, but I cannot access Plane 3 on PPP, but I can access with RMNET. Anyone has the same issue on 3 in other countries? or perhaps any solution on how to enable Planet 3 on PPP?

[Q] Data Connection Problems

Hi,
since some time, I am experiencing problems with my data connection. I dont really now, why but those persist through changes of AndroidOS, Radio and WM-ROM.
The Facts: HD2 european version, Operator: O2 Germany
The Problem in detail: When I am at home, I want to use my WLAN connection but some times, it doesnt connect to it. I have to manually go into the menu and reset my wlan-connection, so it works. Much more annoying is the fact, that when I am not at home (and WLAN is out of range), the phone often doesnt connect HSPA/3G/GSM/whatever and programms like maps, opera etc just claim to not having a data connection ready, though there are 2 to 4 bars. Only way to solve this -> go to flight mode, thet deactivate flight mode OR deactivate data connection, then reacivate it. Either way its annoing and mails won't be downloaded in this time, too.
My first setups, when I didnt have this problem where with WM OZDroid ROM, 2.12.50.XX Radio and many different Androidbuilts (no working compass / lightsensor etc - you know for sure ) Then I got to MDJ-Roms which I really liked and I never used another since those times. Still no Problems.
Then, by some time, I installed a new MDJ ROM - Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._1.1_Clean_R75. This Rom needet to have PIN-auth disabled in Windows or it hung up in LOOP ( ). Sadly I installed a new WM-ROM and radio at the same time (I know, never change multiple parts at once... ugh!). Those where VBNDroid-Reloaded2-21913-Oct08 and Radio 2.15.50.14.
Since that time, I have this strange connection problem. I allready changed back to an oZDroid version and tried Radio 2.12 and 2.15. As Android ROM, i used MDJ eVo Sense Revolution 1.8 and now Mdeejay_FroYo_Revolution_v._1.6_S3. - Still the same problems.
I allready had the idea to reactivate PIN-auth but this option doesnt exist in my actual WM-OzDroid ROM.
Is there anyone experiencing the same problems or able to give me a hint in this case? I'am really not one of those persons "gimmie a new OS and I kill you if it doesnt work" - I know Android is work-in-progress but with all those superb fixes in past (lightsensor, compass etc) i cannot believe that a basic part like internet connection isnt working properly.
Thanks a lot for helping me out,
cmoe

RMNET
I think you'll find plenty of others who have had the same problem and some have had success with changing builds, kernels etc. There's plenty of stuff out there if you search on it.
I used to have data problems but switched to RMNET rather than PPP. You need to use a build that allows you to change this though and luckily for me, Bangsters 1.5 is such a build. It's not a sense build.
RMNET gets a bad press for it's speed, but to be honest it is perfectly ok for browsing the web. I leave all my downloading and updating till I'm on WiFi at home.
Regards your wifi issue, I have 'power control' widget on my homescreen and just switch WiFi off and on. Much easier than going into settings.

SteveDeckchair said:
I think you'll find plenty of others who have had the same problem and some have had success with changing builds, kernels etc. There's plenty of stuff out there if you search on it.
I used to have data problems but switched to RMNET rather than PPP. You need to use a build that allows you to change this though and luckily for me, Bangsters 1.5 is such a build. It's not a sense build.
RMNET gets a bad press for it's speed, but to be honest it is perfectly ok for browsing the web. I leave all my downloading and updating till I'm on WiFi at home.
Regards your wifi issue, I have 'power control' widget on my homescreen and just switch WiFi off and on. Much easier than going into settings.
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This might sound a bit noobish, but I was wondering if someone can recommend an android ROM which provides a stable data connection with the windows stock ROM WWE 3.14 (Radio 2.15.40) with SPL (not HSPL)
I'm currently using the mdeejay froyo sense (v2.4). The pain for me is that the 3G connection rarely works, even in areas with full bars, and the roamin data connection tends to drop out a fair bit as well despite full bars. I've tried rebooting, and that normally works but it is real pain to have to reboot on so many occasions (not to mention slow). I tried switchin to airplane mode and then switching the mobile network on again, but that doesn't seem to work.

[Q] Issues with some roms and http://m.telstra.com

Hi everyone.
I recently picked up an HTC Wildfire, and am quite happy with the device, but something odd I've noticed with certain versions of firmware I've tried.
The situation is that I use m.telstra.com to look at my account charges and so on. Now so far if I've used a rom which has adbd running as root, I'm unable to reach that site using the mobile browser. It just times out. (For example Cyanogen mod 6.1 and 7rc1 and other 7 nightlies.)
Though if I use say the DK sense firmware (where adbd isn't running as root) it works fine.
I'm wondering if it's just me, or something other telstra users have noticed something similar at all..
Thanks,
Ivy

I am running Cyanogen Mod v6 (something) and I can't access 0.facebook. Apparently my mobile isn't a supported network, or that my phones IP address is blocked.

i have wildpuzzle on telstra, will check when i'm around wifi and report back.
i'd do anything to avoid using there call centre

ephbee said:
i have wildpuzzle on telstra, will check when i'm around wifi and report back.
i'd do anything to avoid using there call centre
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The only issue is that the m.telstra.com page is that for the data to load you have to connect via 3G. That said, it should load a page telling you this.
The odd thing, with roms that have adbd running as root, it just times out.
Thanks everyone =)
~ivy

could it be an issue of the telstra wildfires, run a slightly different frequency for 3g/wcdma i think its 850/ 2100mhz( from memory) as opposed to 900/2100 and the radio that comes with cm7 is 900/2100. do you get a 3g signal at all? just a theory
that being said i haven't flashed a different radio for wildpuzzle and i get 3g ok

I've been careful not to flash the radio on the wildfire so I don't think that is the root cause.
It's just something odd that's all.
~Ivy
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Ok I found the issue.
I'd not checked the apn details. With cyanogenmod 7 the handset had defaulted to the telstra.wap apn not the telstra.internet apn.
When using the telstra.internet apn I'm able to get to the m.telstra.com page.
-Ivy
Listen to the silence let it ring on

[Q] Help Needed!!!! not able to receive call when using network to stream large Data

Hi Guys,
I am in love with my phone ever since i ported Android into......
But there one issue that i am facing........
I am not able to receive calls on my HTC HD2 while i am buffering some video or dowloading huge data on an EDGE network.
DO any of you also have faced the same issue, Can you guys suggest me if there are any work around for this????
My Rom details are as below
Rom: TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.3.4[2.3.4][A2SD][tytung r10]
Radio:2.15
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When using gprs/edge, the phone is effectively in use, so calls can't get through.
Think about the days of dialup modems,,, when the modem is connected the phone line is engaged.

titanthp said:
Hi Guys,
I am in love with my phone ever since i ported Android into......
But there one issue that i am facing........
I am not able to receive calls on my HTC HD2 while i am buffering some video or dowloading huge data on an EDGE network.
DO any of you also have faced the same issue, Can you guys suggest me if there are any work around for this????
My Rom details are as below
Rom: TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.3.4[2.3.4][A2SD][tytung r10]
Radio:2.15
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there isnt one, 2g cannot have an active data connection and use voice calls
to do this you need to be on 3g

But when I contacted my service provider(Vodafone India) They mentioned that there is no such problem reported from my location.
They inturn told me that it could be some wrong settings done in the mobile....
I guess they are wrong then .... right????
If not is there any setting that i can tinker with to get this done....
PS: I have tried the rom with various radios as well but that was not much help....

radios will not help because whaty ou want cannot be done!!!! you cannot have a 2g connection downloading data and use voice at the same time, this can only be done on a 3g connection
your providing are not telling you the truth

Thanks for the reply guys.....
well I guess then its time to switch to 3G