[Q] Do I really need to upgrade hboot and radios? - EVO 4G General

Hi,
I have successfully rooted mine and one other Evo with the November firmware update and hboot 2.02. I just rooted my brother's who had the August firmware update and hboot 0.97 using this method. After doing the last method, it flashed the hboot to 0.71 - I just left it at that and loaded the ROM and all is ok.
So, my question is: Do I really need to update hboot or the radios? Am I gaining that much more by updating than than risking bricking my phone?
Thanks, and thanks to so many people here - I proudly support the apps and ROMs I use.

No. You don't need to worry about it. Your hboot is fine, especially considering Cyanogenmod no longer requires the Eng hboot. I've never risked it with radios and haven't encountered a problem.
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[Q] Legend ... rooting ... froyo ?!

Hi to all...
I've just unbranded and than updated my HTC Legend to Froyo following procedures that i've found in the forum...
My tasks have also included to downgraded it to 1.31 because impossible to succed with the "simple" one even if the bootloader version was 0.43.xxxx.
Btw, after have downgraded it I've run the OTA and installed 2.1 and then re-used the procedure to upload a froyo version...
What I'm asking now is : I'll have to refollow the entire procedure to root my phone? Need I use a specific rom to keep my Legend rooted? Are there No chances to root it without doing again all the steps?
cheers and thx
If you have rooted once, you should not be able to upgrade OTA...
What version of HBOOT do you currently have?
Hboot is 1.01.0000
After have downgraded to 1.31 I succeed to OTA to 2.01 (or 2.1, not sure about that) but than failed another OTA to 2.2
Then I've used the .exe found on the forum to update to froyo.
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well then if you want to root, you'll have to do all that again, preferrably following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894465
Will try it
Thx for the support!
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My Desire HD arrives tomorrow - A few questions ...

Hi guys,
tomorrow my Desire HD finally arrives, i've been doing some research into rooting ect and would like to ask a few questions .....
1) whats the best root method? i take it unreovked dosent work on the HD, ive read visionary works for permroot, i thought visionary was for the G2 not HD is this correct?
2) whats the diffence between, bootloader s-off and radio s-off ..... on the desire we only have bootloader s-off
3) my desire HD will be orange branded, if it comes with a newer software version , with an unrootable hboot, can i downgrade easlly to an older software version?
4) and finally how do you guys find the multi touch on the HD?, the lack of multi touch is one of the main reasons im upgrading.
thanks for you help
I followed the guide in the Development section to root my DHD and S-OFF, it's pretty easy to follow
I don't know anything about downgrading hboot or that stuff.
The multi-touch on my device is crap:
I shot a video of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj5z08CC5AQ
Most times 2 points work, but with 3 and 4 points the sensor is going crazy!
Overloaded said:
I followed the guide in the Development section to root my DHD and S-OFF, it's pretty easy to follow
I don't know anything about downgrading hboot or that stuff.
The multi-touch on my device is crap:
I shot a video of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj5z08CC5AQ
Most times 2 points work, but with 3 and 4 points the sensor is going crazy!
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thats the guide i read, its always daunting rooting a new device isnt it nooooo dont say that the website said the hd support 4 point multi touch aslong as you dont get the axis flipping and it supports 2 touches though i'll be happy
if you are wanting to root your desire HD first check what firmware is already installed if its 1.72.405.3 this can't be rooted yet but if its still has older firmware 1.32.405.3 you are fine and you can root with Visionaryr14. so don't update your phone(if you have older firmware) to any new firmware until you are radio s-off.
if you do have 1.72.405.3 firmware you can now downgrade it to older firmware read thread below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
but you will need installed on pc htc sync drivers which you can download from HTC site also need android sdk tools (need adb) which can be found here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html need
also been branded you will needed to make a goldcard on your sdcard to be able to downgrade but in the thread above the is a link to show how its done.
just hope you have older firmware on phone.
sorry matey didn't really read you post, different between the s-off's radio s-off is were its sercurity premanently off and eng s-off is were the h-boot has been patch telling the radio the sercurity is off.
If it comes with 1.72 or 1.75 firmware root I'd not availiable....Yet!
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cattleprod said:
if you are wanting to root your desire HD first check what firmware is already installed if its 1.72.405.3 this can't be rooted yet but if its still has older firmware 1.32.405.3 you are fine and you can root with Visionaryr14. so don't update your phone(if you have older firmware) to any new firmware until you are radio s-off.
if you do have 1.72.405.3 firmware you can now downgrade it to older firmware read thread below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
but you will need installed on pc htc sync drivers which you can download from HTC site also need android sdk tools (need adb) which can be found here http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html need
also been branded you will needed to make a goldcard on your sdcard to be able to downgrade but in the thread above the is a link to show how its done.
just hope you have older firmware on phone.
sorry matey didn't really read you post, different between the s-off's radio s-off is were its sercurity premanently off and eng s-off is were the h-boot has been patch telling the radio the sercurity is off.
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nickhammond121 said:
If it comes with 1.72 or 1.75 firmware root I'd not availiable....Yet!
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thanks guys, i'll just have to wait till tomorrow to see what software version comes with my HD, i hope i wont have too much trouble rooting or downgrading tho, i have the htc drivers installed and im familiar with adb, thanks for your help
you should have no problems been able to downgrade then. you may want to use this ruu http://xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/RUU_A....140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_157531_signed.exe
as your PM98IMG.zip as it orange uk so may not need to make a goldcard.
Just to keep your hopes up i only got mine on friday it had the older firmware on.
i soon s-off and eng -s off, now i can not stop flashing roms finding the one i like best. i would say thou if you plan to flash up to the 1.72 rom dont flash a new custom kernel...yet
Thamks for all your help guys, i got my DHD earlier today, and it only took me 10 minutes to root and s-off it came with software version 1.40, i used visionary to root it, then used the one click radio s-off tool to s-off now im gunna download rom manager and flash cwm
Nice no having to downgrade enjoy
Swyped using a misguided desire HD with telepathy...
Hi
My dhd manges four multi touches with no problems.
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[Q]Can you downgrade from Android 2.3?

Has anyone been able to downgrade Android 2.3 back to 2.2?
People are trying to downgrade their phones back to 2.2 and use one of the rooting methods, because none of them will work an Android 2.3.
I've heard that some, but very few people, have been able to do it by running an RUU back to stock. There has to be a reason why some have been able to downgrade, but not others. It seems that if the phone has never been rooted, then it cannot be done (downgraded or rooted). That may be because the bootloader is S-ON.
My question is, if the phone was previously rooted, then unrooted, then updated to Android 2.3, if the phone is somehow downgraded using an RUU, is it only because the phone is still S-OFF, or some other reason?
I already know how to root it if the phone is still S-OFF and was updated to 2.3. The question is still, if the phone is successfully downgraded using an RUU back to Android 2.2 stock (with hopes of rerooting), is it because the bootloader is still S-OFF?
These questions are really more to help others than they are for me because too many people are trying unsuccessfully to downgrade their phone in the hopes of rerooting. If there are no good answers, then obviously downgrading will not be the route to take.
(AND YES, MOST OF THEM SHOULD NOT HAVE UNROOTED, but everyone makes mistakes.)
shortydoggg said:
Has anyone been able to downgrade Android 2.3 back to 2.2?
People are trying to downgrade their phones back to 2.2 and use one of the rooting methods, because none of them will work an Android 2.3.
I've heard that some, but very few people, have been able to do it by running an RUU back to stock. There has to be a reason why some have been able to downgrade, but not others. It seems that if the phone has never been rooted, then it cannot be done (downgraded or rooted). That may be because the bootloader is S-ON.
My question is, if the phone was previously rooted, then unrooted, then updated to Android 2.3, if the phone is somehow downgraded using an RUU, is it only because the phone is still S-OFF, or some other reason?
I already know how to root it if the phone is still S-OFF and was updated to 2.3. The question is still, if the phone is successfully downgraded using an RUU back to Android 2.2 stock (with hopes of rerooting), is it because the bootloader is still S-OFF?
These questions are really more to help others than they are for me because too many people are trying unsuccessfully to downgrade their phone in the hopes of rerooting. If there are no good answers, then obviously downgrading will not be the route to take.
(AND YES, MOST OF THEM SHOULD NOT HAVE UNROOTED, but everyone makes mistakes.)
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Good question but its posted like a million times with no definitive answer. And yes alooooooot of people have made mistakes...lol
Sent from my EVO rocking Evervolv Gingerbread
Yes, they are only able to downgrade because their phone is already unlocked with s-off.
Its really a waste of time tbh, all you have to do is flash a recovery and you're done.
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How would I flash the recovery?
kleintools said:
How would I flash the recovery?
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Look on the dev forum for RA recovery or clockwork recovery. Both of them include a way to flash them via bootloader menu on the evo.
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fenixjn said:
Look on the dev forum for RA recovery or clockwork recovery. Both of them include a way to flash them via bootloader menu on the evo.
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Only if its S off
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[Q] HTC EVO No PC Root

Ok everyone I Search and Search , found topics just like mine but all the DL links are dead.
HTC Evo pc36100
Hardware version 0003
Android 2.2
Baseband 2.15.00.11.19
Kernel 2.6.32.17-gee557fd
Build 3.70.651.1
evt2-3 ship s-on
hboot 2.10.0001
micop-041f
radio 2.15.00.11.19
oct 15 2010
My problem is this, The USB connection is a bad connection, tried drivers, cables, ect, its the connection on the phone.
My goal is to root the phone and to put it on cynogen, with out a PC
I am thinking this is the best solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701152
but once again the PC36IMG.zip link is dead, I tried searching for other PC36IMG.zip files but they are not working the way its suppose to
I cannt find the m5hash to do a simple file search
so I am hopeing some one can help me in this matter
Ty in advance
You need a PC to unlock your bootloader to root, unless you are already s-off. If you are only unlocked you still need a PC to fastboot flash recovery. Without USB support you're pretty much out of luck for rooting.
ETA: with your hboot version you may be able to use unrevoked to gain s-off but you will need to downgrade your radio for it to work and I'm not 100% sure you can downgrade radios with s-on, its been a while since I've flashed a radio on the evo, and I'm not sure unrevoked will work with radios above 2.10
We are legion, for we are many.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
You need a PC to unlock your bootloader to root, unless you are already s-off. If you are only unlocked you still need a PC to fastboot flash recovery. Without USB support you're pretty much out of luck for rooting.
ETA: with your hboot version you may be able to use unrevoked to gain s-off but you will need to downgrade your radio for it to work and I'm not 100% sure you can downgrade radios with s-on, its been a while since I've flashed a radio on the evo, and I'm not sure unrevoked will work with radios above 2.10
We are legion, for we are many.
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He has hboot 2.10 he doesn't need htcdev or anything he should try revolutionary if you're going for PC but try that one thread and see it it goes good
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lreyes said:
He has hboot 2.10 he doesn't need htcdev or anything he should try revolutionary if you're going for PC but try that one thread and see it it goes good
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Revolutionary is for 2.16, I misread it at first and tthought he had 2.18 but that's why I corrected it and said unrevoked works for hboot 2.10, I just don't know if it will work with 2.15 radio or if the radio needs to be downgraded. Unrevoked was the only way to get s-off without a PC for adb/fastboot commands. Without USB support its not going to be simple to root with radio and hboot being mismatched. The only option may be to upgrade to hboot 2.16 and run revolutionary or 2.18 and use htcdev then downgrade and gain s-off. Its not like there's a simple app to one-click s-off HTC devices, unfortunately. I'm not even sure which unrevoked would be needed to s-off 2.10 with 2.15 radio, and if the radio needs to be downgraded idk if you can downgrade em without s-off, its been a while since I've flashed radios on my evo and i haven't had to s-off it in a long time, I think my hboot is like 0.97 or something older than dirt by phone standards
We are legion, for we are many.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Revolutionary is for 2.16, I misread it at first and tthought he had 2.18 but that's why I corrected it and said unrevoked works for hboot 2.10, I just don't know if it will work with 2.15 radio or if the radio needs to be downgraded. Unrevoked was the only way to get s-off without a PC for adb/fastboot commands. Without USB support its not going to be simple to root with radio and hboot being mismatched. The only option may be to upgrade to hboot 2.16 and run revolutionary or 2.18 and use htcdev then downgrade and gain s-off. Its not like there's a simple app to one-click s-off HTC devices, unfortunately. I'm not even sure which unrevoked would be needed to s-off 2.10 with 2.15 radio, and if the radio needs to be downgraded idk if you can downgrade em without s-off, its been a while since I've flashed radios on my evo and i haven't had to s-off it in a long time, I think my hboot is like 0.97 or something older than dirt by phone standards
We are legion, for we are many.
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All I need to do is look at how long the comment is and your right...
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Isn't hboot 2.10 good for unrevoked? Does radio really matter? I thought it was just hboot.
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S-Off FINALLY attainable for 1.27.531.11 FW (kind of)

Hey there!!!
So after a chat via pm with a fellow xda member, we found someone who did what most of us though was impossible, achieve an S-Off -able state after upgrading to the .11 firmware update. The user who achieved this has unfortunately been banned from the xda forums for reasons I don't know of, so you'll find a link to his page and tutorial in the bottom of the OP. I haven't personally tried this method all the way through yet, but it has been confirmed to work by a couple of the people over on his forum.
Apparently all you have to do is:
-Backup whatever data is on your phone
-Unlock your bootloader
-Flash a custom recovery(I prefer TWRP)
-Do a full system wipe(This WILL ERASE EVERYTHING on your phone, including your OS).
-Flash a "stock" 1.27.531.7 Rom (I know there's one floating somewhere in the dev forum section) OR restore a .7 Nandroid backup
-Wipe Cache and Dalvik
-Flash kernel
-Reboot
- Enable USB Debugging and make sure your battery is over 30%( I'd say 50% for good measure).
-Run the modified 1.27.531.8 RUU(Found in the link in the OP)
- Let it go through the motions (multiple reboots)
-BOOM. There you go. If all goes well you should be running the official(kind of) stock, S-Off capable, 1.27.531.8 Firmware, with the unmodified 1.44 hboot, meaning Revone AND Moonshine should both work, whichever you prefer.
If I forgot any steps I apologize, I'm typing this on the go, completely from memory. But if you're attempting this, I'm going to assume you've flashed a custom Rom before and know how to do it without bricking your phone. Good luck everyone!!! Feel free to post successes and failures for the rest of us!
Tutorial and Modified RUU:
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ALL CRED FOR THIS DISCOVERY
GOES TO:
xboarder56 for the RUU :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
bloodbond3 For sharing this. :thumbup::thumbup:
MUCH THANKS MATES
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1.54
But....this is not for 1.54 users, right?
Im on hboot 1.54 s-on ... Can s-off be axhieved following this tutorial
?
Nightf0x_007 said:
Im on hboot 1.54 s-on ... Can s-off be axhieved following this tutorial
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I have now seen a post with this explanation:
No, this is for the US T-Mobile edition and WILL NOT assist in unlocking the 1.54 HBoot. Maybe the OP should add some backstory:
T-Mobile released an update about 2 months ago that changed the version incrementally. In doing so they updated the HBoot, but kept it on 1.44, and patched the hole used by Renovate and Moonshine. This mod tricks your US T-mobile phone into downgrading through RUU (since the HBoot version never changed it is working) and allowing S-Off... that being said dont be a dummy and RUU then take the update after the first boot lol.
This is a great tool, I am DL'ing it just in case, i already had mine done prior to the update and am running a GPE Converted phone now.
That being said I HIGHLY recommend doing this prior to taking the upcoming 4.2 or 4.3 update, They will be updating to the as-of now locked down 1.54 HBoot. At that time this mod should no longer work as downgrading your HBoot is only available while S-Off.
Maichel said:
I have now seen a post with this explanation:
No, this is for the US T-Mobile edition and WILL NOT assist in unlocking the 1.54 HBoot. Maybe the OP should add some backstory:
T-Mobile released an update about 2 months ago that changed the version incrementally. In doing so they updated the HBoot, but kept it on 1.44, and patched the hole used by Renovate and Moonshine. This mod tricks your US T-mobile phone into downgrading through RUU (since the HBoot version never changed it is working) and allowing S-Off... that being said dont be a dummy and RUU then take the update after the first boot lol.
This is a great tool, I am DL'ing it just in case, i already had mine done prior to the update and am running a GPE Converted phone now.
That being said I HIGHLY recommend doing this prior to taking the upcoming 4.2 or 4.3 update, They will be updating to the as-of now locked down 1.54 HBoot. At that time this mod should no longer work as downgrading your HBoot is only available while S-Off.
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This is a post inception.... I made the post that was quoted that I am now quoting in my post......
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This method has been floating around for s while now, since the update came out. But none the less, great guide op.
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So wait I'm confused, lol did I not add enough backstory? Or was that from another thread?
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EDIT: unconfused now. Mah bad
In simpler terms, a little less confusing, what Maichel is saying is that the RUU contains the unmodified 1.44 hboot, but still 1.44, so "technically" speaking, you're not downgrading your hboot at all.
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