I've been one of those that have ALWAYS had terrible battery life with my Nexus. Even using SetCPU and Juicedefender, it would drain horribly, even while it was asleep. I've had three different stock HTC batteries and also used the Seido 1600 mAh, none of which made any difference.
I finally decided to try an extended battery, if for no other reason than to simply get a little more juice so maybe my battery would last longer than 6-9 hours. I figured I could always return it anyway. The only way I have ever gotten 12 hours out of a battery is to not use the device hardly at all. I went with the Mugen 3200 mAh extended battery because the Seido 3200 mAh has a battery door that does not seal the device so dust can get in. I might have tried Amzer but I didn't know they existed until after I bought the Mugen. All I know is that I am freaking THRILLED. Right now, I am sitting at 82% and I have been unplugged for 7 hours and 55 minutes!! I'm still only on my third cycle!!! Yesterday I was at 55% after 18 hours of use when I finally started a new charge cycle. I'm talking normal-to slightly heavy use...I even streamed two episodes of Seinfeld from TBS.com.
I'm posting this for those that are at their wit's end over battery life on their Nexus One. I swear I always thought the Nexus One was defective when it came to battery life. Now I know I have always had crappy batteries.
This is in no way an advertisement for Mugen..I have not been paid or given a discount, or been asked to post a glowing review...I'm just so happy about the Mugen working beyond my expectations. On top of this: I managed to break one of the pegs on the extended battery door they sent which makes it a little loose. I contacted them and before they even replied they started shipping me a new one at no charge!
Anyway, if you are having the same issues as I have been I would suggest a 3200 MAH extended battery. Either Mugen or you can try Amzer. I personally would not get the Seido based on their battery door not being sealed with the potential to let dust in, and the fact that my experience with their 1600 mAh battery was so bad. I'll personally always go with Mugen from here on out based on performance + customer service. If something goes wrong I already know they will take care of it one way or another.
Remember the drawbacks tho: slightly larger profile due to larger size battery and door, cases will not fit device any longer, and it will not fit in car dock any longer. In my case I have put a stock battery and original OEM battery cover in my car so if I want to use the car dock I can just switch batteries and back covers.
Anyway I hope this helps someone find peace with battery life. It's been driving me up the wall for almost a freaking year now. I never dreamed I could get this kind of battery life out of my Nexus One. So nice to be able to stop checking battery status all the time.
how much thicker is it?? can ya post a pic?
pics or it didnt happen.
or as they say on 4chan "tits or gtfo"
Okay here they are guys, I have two Nexus Ones so I used one of the to take the pics, unfortunately I cannot do a side by side of the two Nexus Ones because I need one to take the pics as I do not have any other camera:
first a comparison of the Mugen 3200 and the HTC stock:
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now the Nexus with stock cover:
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mugen and stock on top of one another:
And finally, the broken peg on the extended door which I broke and Mugen are replacing for free(it's the peg on the top):
sorry the pics are so big I don't usually do this but I suppose it might help that they are big. If you want more info or pics just ask. hope this helps. Tomorrow I will post a pic showing how long the device has been unplugged with the remaining battery percentage in the status bar at the same time to prove my claims. I cannot do it now since I pulled the Mugen to take the pics. I should have done that pic first, then pulled the Mugen.
I just want folks who are in my same position to know there IS a solution, albeit with drawbacks such as not being able to use a case. I have to admit tho: I don't miss any of my cases. The Nexus with this extended back feels great in my hand. The only real drawback for me is the risk of dropping it without the case to protect it. I'm just being more careful and FINALLY enjoying great battery life.
One more thing: this is all done with display brightness at 100% 24-7. I do not like using any other brightness setting so if you choose to use an energy saving brightness setting, your results should be even better. I do however still use setCPU to downclock to 245 while screen is off, and juicedefender with various settings.
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One more thing: this is all done with display brightness at 100% 24-7.
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...What?
Maybe I'm the only one this has ever happened to, but whenever I check my battery usage statistics in the default Settings app, Display is listed as the absolute biggest battery hog, by a ratio of at least 2:1 compared to the next highest component on the list. I'm talking like a consistent 60% or more of my battery drain is attributed to the display, and this is even when I have my display set to automatic brightness 24-7. Even if I overclock my CPU to 1152mhz, turn on Bluetooth and GPS, and play games until my battery is almost dead, the display still racks up the highest amount of battery drain.
I hate to dismiss your claims as unscientific, but did you ever think to check your battery usage statistics? Did you ever figure that maybe you could be killing your battery life by leaving the screen on max brightness?
If I leave my phone on automatic brightness, I get a good 15 hours of battery life with moderate usage throughout the day. If I put it on max brightness, I go down to about 6 hours of battery life. Weird, huh?
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...What?
Maybe I'm the only one this has ever happened to, but whenever I check my battery usage statistics in the default Settings app, Display is listed as the absolute biggest battery hog, by a ratio of at least 2:1 compared to the next highest component on the list. I'm talking like a consistent 60% or more of my battery drain is attributed to the display, and this is even when I have my display set to automatic brightness 24-7. Even if I overclock my CPU to 1152mhz, turn on Bluetooth and GPS, and play games until my battery is almost dead, the display still racks up the highest amount of battery drain.
I hate to dismiss your claims as unscientific, but did you ever think to check your battery usage statistics? Did you ever figure that maybe you could be killing your battery life by leaving the screen on max brightness?
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Uh, yeah, no kidding the display brightness kills battery...but I do not like turning down the brightness at all, it hides that beautiful display. Besides don't you think that over the course of a YEAR I tried turning down the brightness?? Sure it saved SOME battery, but not enough to matter...maybe two hours extra which is not even close to being enough for me to justify turning it down. I have two Nexus Ones and have tried the turning down the brightness trick on both and the battery savings is minimal. No-matter how much I turn down the brightness, the display is ALWAYS listed as the biggest battery hog(unless I use the phone for calls a BUNCH that day)
and I never claimed any of this was scientific. Try a 3200 mAh battery or don't, I don't care...I'm just posting my results. To me getting 18 hours out of a battery and not even being at 50% yet is a huge difference...far better than turning down the brightness.
But again these are my results and I cannot PROMISE anyone else will see the same thing. Can't hurt to try and just return it if it doesn't work out. God knows I tried everything else over the course of a year.
If you want to fault me, I guess I shouldn't have said "there IS" a solution since I cannot promise this result for everyone or anyone but myself.
well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
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well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
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Because i'm getting FAR better than double battery life. If I had gone from 9-12>>>>>18-24, I wouldn't have even made this post. But I have gone from 9-12(oftentimes 6-9 with heavy Flash use)>>>>>>>over 40 hours with normal to heavy use, even streaming Flash episodes and movies.
This is not for the normal person with pretty good Nexus battery life: this post was/is for people like me who have been frustrated by people posting that they get all kinds of great battery life from their Nexus but are never able to get it themselves. I finally got it for myself.
hell I saw a video review by some kid of this Mugen battery and he said he thought it was great but was giving it away because he already gets great battery life on his Nexus ....that pissed me off right there. I was like what the hell???
here it is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzSm2fBOBFQ
so yeah I'm excited to finally have great battery life myself and thought I would pass it along as a possible solution for others
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Uh, yeah, no kidding the display brightness kills battery...but I do not like turning down the brightness at all, it hides that beautiful display. Besides don't you think that over the course of a YEAR I tried turning down the brightness?? Sure it saved SOME battery, but not enough to matter...maybe two hours extra which is not even close to being enough for me to justify turning it down. I have two Nexus Ones and have tried the turning down the brightness trick on both and the battery savings is minimal. No-matter how much I turn down the brightness, the display is ALWAYS listed as the biggest battery hog(unless I use the phone for calls a BUNCH that day)
and I never claimed any of this was scientific. Try a 3200 mAh battery or don't, I don't care...I'm just posting my results. To me getting 18 hours out of a battery and not even being at 50% yet is a huge difference...far better than turning down the brightness.
But again these are my results and I cannot PROMISE anyone else will see the same thing. Can't hurt to try and just return it if it doesn't work out. God knows I tried everything else over the course of a year.
If you want to fault me, I guess I shouldn't have said "there IS" a solution since I cannot promise this result for everyone or anyone but myself.
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Your original problem wasn't that your stock battery was bad, it was that you kept your screen brightness too high to be suitable for daily usage. Proposing that the only working solution for yourself was to buy an extended battery is very misleading, because really all you had to do was turn down the display brightness, and make sure to turn off unnecessary services like GPS, Bluetooth, etc.
Furthermore, your solution, which is to outfit the Nexus One with the Mugen extended battery, costs $80, while it costs absolutely nothing to simply press a button and save your battery by turning things off and dimming the screen.
It's fine if you want to buy an extended battery so you can blast your display, but it's not the only solution, and is possibly the worst in terms of cost-effectiveness. Anybody at their wit's end about their battery life should try everything else first, and only then when they are completely dissatisfied with the way the screen looks, the lack of available services, or the lack of speed in processing, should they consider purchasing an extra battery.
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Your original problem wasn't that your stock battery was bad, it was that you kept your screen brightness too high to be suitable for daily usage. Proposing that the only working solution for yourself was to buy an extended battery is very misleading, because really all you had to do was turn down the display brightness, and make sure to turn off unnecessary services like GPS, Bluetooth, etc.
Furthermore, your solution, which is to outfit the Nexus One with the Mugen extended battery, costs $80, while it costs absolutely nothing to simply press a button and save your battery by turning things off and dimming the screen.
It's fine if you want to buy an extended battery so you can blast your display, but it's not the only solution, and is possibly the worst in terms of cost-effectiveness. Anybody at their wit's end about their battery life should try everything else first, and only then when they are completely dissatisfied with the way the screen looks, the lack of available services, or the lack of speed in processing, should they consider purchasing an extra battery.
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dude I already told you that turning brightness all the way down only netted me about two hours more battery life using stock battery. And thanks for quoting my post about being at "wit's end"...by definition if you are at your wit's end you have already tried everything else.
is this the best you can do or are you just argumentative tonight??
I fully stand by everything I have written
and for the record, turning off GPS, turning down brightness, turning off bluetooth, etc.., is not a REAL solution, unless you consider crippling your device to keep it powered a solution, which apparently you do.
Maybe I should just turn the whole device off.... then I'll get weeks and weeks of battery life.
Thanks for taking the time to post pics. I too use my display at 100% bright and love the effect. I have a spare battery i use and a charging dock ( not oem ) and i get by doing it that way and can make it abotu 12 hours before i have to reload the other battery ( stock battery )
I had a mugen on my g1 and it was an awesome addon. However, the otterbox defender im using now wont fit a modded case, so this was the best solution for me.
i think we all are great to find solutions. Even if different ones. One thing i did find with the "fat phone" was that it felt better in my large hands and was more comfortable to type on.
Make sure to post a follow up to this with final thoughts on the battery . and thanks again for tits
android01 said:
Thanks for taking the time to post pics. I too use my display at 100% bright and love the effect. I have a spare battery i use and a charging dock ( not oem ) and i get by doing it that way and can make it abotu 12 hours before i have to reload the other battery ( stock battery )
I had a mugen on my g1 and it was an awesome addon. However, the otterbox defender im using now wont fit a modded case, so this was the best solution for me.
i think we all are great to find solutions. Even if different ones. One thing i did find with the "fat phone" was that it felt better in my large hands and was more comfortable to type on.
Make sure to post a follow up to this with final thoughts on the battery . and thanks again for tits
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No problem man, and I agree with you about us each finding our own solution. After I get done cycling it two more times(per instructions) I will post final results. I have to admit I do fear it losing capacity...almost like I can't believe these results will be maintained. My worst fear is that in a couple weeks things will start going downhill again. If it does go downhill later I will report that, too.
Good to know. When I see these threads I wonder what I'm missing with my phone, cause I get 2-3 days with my battery. I must be missing out on something cool.
I can get that with mobile data turned off, but when it's contatly syncing 3 email accounts, facebook, twitter, news, weather etc over 3G, I kind of expect it to take a hit.
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well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
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Except it's not.. All of these third party extended batteries are 75-80% of their stated capacity. Therefore his battery is at best 83% larger.
http://batteryboss.org/ says that Mugen 3200 are 75% of their rated capacity, therefore more like 71% more capacity than the stock battery.
Old MuckenMire said:
Because i'm getting FAR better than double battery life. If I had gone from 9-12>>>>>18-24, I wouldn't have even made this post. But I have gone from 9-12(oftentimes 6-9 with heavy Flash use)>>>>>>>over 40 hours with normal to heavy use, even streaming Flash episodes and movies.
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To me this sounds like your stock battery is defective.. You ever tried replacing it? Try this, I bookmarked it a few days ago just in case..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9517689#post9517689
I would be really interested to hear at what percentage your phone would shut down when this battery was empty.
wow nice i'd buy a mugen battery only if they didn't lie on the specs blatantly.
When was the last time that you cycled your stock HTC battery?
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To me this sounds like your stock battery is defective.. You ever tried replacing it? Try this, I bookmarked it a few days ago just in case..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9517689#post9517689
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Yes I've replaced my stock battery with two others: stock HTC batteries and a Seido 1600mAh extended battery, all with the same results(bad battery life). I just bought them tho and didn't bother with warranty replacement. Looking back I guess I should have. Anyway I DO think it's possible they are all defective due to my having repeatedly run them down to 0% at times. The Mugen came with a warning to never ever run the battery down to zero percent. I have also read here and at other sites that running them all the way down is bad for them. I'm no battery expert so I cannot say for sure, but you make a valid point.
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I would be really interested to hear at what percentage your phone would shut down when this battery was empty.
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My stock batteries would sometimes shut down the Nexus even tho it still showed 15% of power left: I would resolve this by wiping batter stats in recovery. Yes this is a concern I have but I cannot test it as I am not willing to drain this Mugen below 20%. Right now the battery has been off charge for 21 and a half hours and I am at 59% battery life left. When I am done cycling this battery I will hopefully never have to deal with seeing that battery get to even close to 15%, 20%, etc.. because I will be going to bed and putting it on charge long before then. Also, I do not want to risk draining this battery 100% as Mugen warns not to do that. They are very explicit about this.
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I can get that with mobile data turned off, but when it's contatly syncing 3 email accounts, facebook, twitter, news, weather etc over 3G, I kind of expect it to take a hit.
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I must also add that I do not use Facebook or Twitter(I use launcherPro Twitter widget but sync it manually) I removed the official apps via Titanium. Thought I should mention this since you reminded me with your post. This can also contribute to my good battery life, although it never did much good with the stock batteries, but again maybe they are defective.
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wow nice i'd buy a mugen battery only if they didn't lie on the specs blatantly.
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i've read the same here at XDA and at other sites and it's a valid concern worth mentioning. For me it doesn't matter what they rate the battery at as I'm experiencing fantastic results, but that does not mean Mugen does not fudge numbers. So again a valid concern. My advice is to try it and return it if you do not get satisfactory results. If you get horrible battery life, my opinion is that it's worth a try.
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When was the last time that you cycled your stock HTC battery?
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hey Paul, yes I cycled the stock and Seido as recently as last week. I've tried every trick you find in a search here at XDA or Google. I even tried that trick where you drain the battery repeatedly to reset the battery meter, then charge it back. Also tried the trick of power to 100%, letting it drop to 99%, then turning off and placing back on charge. Light turns amber again and charges for another 30 minutes or so. All this did was make it stick at 100% for some extra time(usually an hour) then it would start dropping faster than normal tho.
Just for the record guys: I understand the skepticism. I was always skeptical of battery power claims. I suppose I wouldn't believe me either if I were just reading my posts and not experiencing this.
Again: I have been off power since 2pm yesterday and I am at this moment at 58% battery power left. I did sleep for six hours and didn't use the device for that period, but still, for me, this is incredible.
EDIT: one other thing I forgot to mention I do: I am ALWAYS checking and making sure my Nexus is sleeping properly via Spare Parts. I have had apps that cause my device to not sleep properly and that hurts battery life. In fact, just yesterday I caught the latest WeatherBug Elite update causing my Nexus not to sleep for the second time since they started recently updating it. I have now returned to a previous version I backed up and am having no sleeping issues at this time. If you are having poor battery life it is something to check and keep an eye on.
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I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
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Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.
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I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
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wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!
I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!
Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?
Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.
So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.
Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.
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Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."
I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
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I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.
I have the Mugen 3000
I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.
Since I've installed the new software upgrade battery life has gone down. Can anyone recommend any settings/tips to maintain battery life?
not noticed any difference in battery life so far. are you playing with it a bit more because youve got the update? first day i upgraded mine i was using it a lot more and reinstalling all my applications and settings so the battery dropped faster. maybe give it a week or so until you settle back to your normal usage pattern.
main tip to increase battery life is to lower the screen brightness as far as you can. i think i have mine on about 10%. i can still see everything fine. the light is the main drain on the battery. also if you dont use 3G u can disable that. if youre in an area which has bad reception that can drain your battery faster because its constantly seeking and trying to get a lock. not much you can do about that apart from turning the phone off or putting it into airplane mode until you get to a better area.
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Since I've installed the new software upgrade battery life has gone down. Can anyone recommend any settings/tips to maintain battery life?
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I have the same troublem too,even Battery charge some time do some time don't
Nope, no problems. In fact today with mild usage of a few calls and sms's it has only gone down 9% in the whole day. I am satisfied with that.
BTW, there is already another thread for this issue. If a Mod can merge them, that would be cool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684651
wow i ussualy had to charge it every day, now with the update today os my 3rd day without charging but i have to charge it tonight
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In fact today with mild usage of a few calls and sms's it has only gone down 9% in the whole day./showthread.php?t=684651[/url]
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hmmm that would drop here in 3 mins of call
i figured out mine drops 3% per minute <---in call
and "energy saving mode" it lasts 15hrs
Hi
after GEN_EN 35, i'm having a better battery life than before.
my battery did great for just one day with simple usage, but after update i'm having about 2days life on. but with hard work and a busy day on call answering on BTooth and sms , little WLAN,.... i could finish the second day with light work today.
since yesterday morning, after about 31hours (about 13hrs work and remaining on standby) and did 2times restart, i'm having 30% battery remaining.
I guess I still long for my k790, that would last for 4-5 days for me, unless I was using the camera flash. I am getting battery drain similar to lock3k and indycar so I guess it's normal. I also browse the net most of the day and while driving between edge and 3g zones. I can get away with charging once a day so I guess it's ok.
yah. my battery is getting owrse and worse. I charged it last night before bed. woke up today it went down to 70% ... I obviously didn't even touch the phone, cuz I was sleeping ,,unless I'm a lunatic (which I hope I'm not)
so wth?
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not noticed any difference in battery life so far. are you playing with it a bit more because youve got the update? first day i upgraded mine i was using it a lot more and reinstalling all my applications and settings so the battery dropped faster. maybe give it a week or so until you settle back to your normal usage pattern.
main tip to increase battery life is to lower the screen brightness as far as you can. i think i have mine on about 10%. i can still see everything fine. the light is the main drain on the battery. also if you dont use 3G u can disable that. if youre in an area which has bad reception that can drain your battery faster because its constantly seeking and trying to get a lock. not much you can do about that apart from turning the phone off or putting it into airplane mode until you get to a better area.
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Come on man are you serious only 10% of brightness?? If this is true, I must agree that you will save a lot of battery life, however, you will kill the beauty of the screen! You have a WVGA resolution screen which is awesome!
So decreasing the brightness level this way will make you miss a great treat which is how wonderful the screen really is, anyway it's your call man but trust me your missing a lot
Personally, I set the brightness level to 70% and I have no problems with the battery at all! It works all day with heavy multi tasking along with taking pictures, many SMS and browsing the internet. Before I sleep everyday I charge it and that's it.
I think the battery on the X2 is very good. My only concern was that the software will stay unfixed for ever, specially after a lot of complains regarding the MR2. However, since I upgraded to MR2 this device is among the best I have experienced in my life, I'm loving it everyday more and more. And no matter how good other smart phones are, the X2's keyboard is simply unbeatable along with the other goodies it offers you.
In my opinion the best way to save the battery life along with enjoying your phone is :
Go to the setting>system>phone>band
And change it to GSM instead of auto, and if you want fast access to the INTERNET your better off with the wi-fi but don't forget to switch it off when ever your done.
Cheers
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Come on man are you serious only 10% of brightness?? If this is true, I must agree that you will save a lot of battery life, however, you will kill the beauty of the screen! You have a WVGA resolution screen which is awesome!
So decreasing the brightness level this way will make you miss a great treat which is how wonderful the screen really is, anyway it's your call man but trust me your missing a lot
Personally, I set the brightness level to 70% and I have no problems with the battery at all! It works all day with heavy multi tasking along with taking pictures, many SMS and browsing the internet. Before I sleep everyday I charge it and that's it.
I think the battery on the X2 is very good. My only concern was that the software will stay unfixed for ever, specially after a lot of complains regarding the MR2. However, since I upgraded to MR2 this device is among the best I have experienced in my life, I'm loving it everyday more and more. And no matter how good other smart phones are, the X2's keyboard is simply unbeatable along with the other goodies it offers you.
In my opinion the best way to save the battery life along with enjoying your phone is :
Go to the setting>system>phone>band
And change it to GSM instead of auto, and if you want fast access to the INTERNET your better off with the wi-fi but don't forget to switch it off when ever your done.
Cheers
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Good idea about switching to GSM only, but I have 3G on all the time and my battery performance is just fine. This includes having the SD card fix applied which disables power save mode on the SD card.
I don't understand how some people here are having terrible battery life.
Of course it is very important when you first get your phone to charge the battery fully and let it get to really low before charging again, then charge again for a few cycles the same way and it will be a very good performing battery after that. You can also refresh/maintain your batteries the same way. It may fix batteries that were not properly charged the first time, but they should be relatively new. As a warning though, don't let you batteries go completely flat. It's very bad for lithium ion batteries.
mtechfan said:
Good idea about switching to GSM only, but I have 3G on all the time and my battery performance is just fine. This includes having the SD card fix applied which disables power save mode on the SD card.
I don't understand how some people here are having terrible battery life.
Of course it is very important when you first get your phone to charge the battery fully and let it get to really low before charging again, then charge again for a few cycles the same way and it will be a very good performing battery after that. You can also refresh/maintain your batteries the same way. It may fix batteries that were not properly charged the first time, but they should be relatively new. As a warning though, don't let you batteries go completely flat. It's very bad for lithium ion batteries.
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Thanks for the advice dude and what you said is totally true. However, since most users lack such knowledge and experience they will end up having a bad battery that's not using it's true capabilities.
So I think it's good for people to know how to charge there batteries probably from the beginning. Regarding the 3G and 2G networks, trust me man there are a lot of users that are only using the phone as a phone nothing more, so giving them the 2g option is the best for them.
But of course a person with a decent experience such as your self has no problems at all staying on a 3g network
Good day
Basharca said:
Thanks for the advice dude and what you said is totally true. However, since most users lack such knowledge and experience they will end up having a bad battery that's not using it's true capabilities.
So I think it's good for people to know how to charge there batteries probably from the beginning. Regarding the 3G and 2G networks, trust me man there are a lot of users that are only using the phone as a phone nothing more, so giving them the 2g option is the best for them.
But of course a person with a decent experience such as your self has no problems at all staying on a 3g network
Good day
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Modern batteries don't require any loading cycles.
They are prepared already.
doministry said:
Modern batteries don't require any loading cycles.
They are prepared already.
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Yep, he's right! It should already be ready from the factory.
There is one thing to note, NEVER OVER CHARGE A LITHIUM ION BATTERY!
Unlike NiMH, they do not have trickle charge so leaving it charging for long periods of time or charging it over and over when it's close to full can actually damage the battery.
im getting these strange readings from battery meter
the temperature seems very weird as room temp is 28 (at work atm) im currently
charging the phone and it shows me max 4 degrees C but the battery is very hot
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try SpoonCharge,you can find it here on the forum somewhere
it works great !
Dont forget to turn off HSDPA in Mobile Data Settings.
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try SpoonCharge,you can find it here on the forum somewhere
it works great !
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kewl 10x
works like a charm and it has a torch too
sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
edit: mods you can just delete this thread. i also hate clutter and hate that my rant has added to it. (hopefully we get some sort of update/custom rom soon that fixes battery!)
e3chaos said:
sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
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The battery life on my EVO is not better.
What do you do with the phone that drains it so much?
Open up your battery statistics. What is using it the most? How long is your display on for (select "display" from battery history and it will say long long it has been on for).
Have you charged it correctly for 1st time use? (charge to 100%, then drain to 0, then charge to 100% again)?
Seems like you are experiencing much faster battery drain than expected. My battery lasts all day long with light use (~22 hours). 10-12 hours under heavy use (3-4 hours of screen on time). I use juice defender as well, and I keep my screen brightness at 0% (still pretty bright) unless I go outside).
hydralisk said:
The battery life on my EVO is not better.
What do you do with the phone that drains it so much?
Open up your battery statistics. What is using it the most? How long is your display on for (select "display" from battery history and it will say long long it has been on for).
Have you charged it correctly for 1st time use? (charge to 100%, then drain to 0, then charge to 100% again)?
Seems like you are experiencing much faster battery drain than expected. My battery lasts all day long with light use (~22 hours). 10-12 hours under heavy use (3-4 hours of screen on time). I use juice defender as well, and I keep my screen brightness at 0% (still pretty bright) unless I go outside).
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i've done everything you said. this isn't my first smart phone.. i've been around a long time. :-/. from what i have been reading some have been getting the ok battery life while others are in the sinking boat with me. just frustrating..i've been giving it more than one chance since i got it at 8am 1 week ago.
Bro turn off wat u don't need. Auto sync is adrain and having data connected is a drain as well. If ur not using the data then turn it off. U can still txt n get calls. N when u wanna check the net or watever then turn it bak on.
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I tried all of that with my epic but it sucked the battery way worse than my evo
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In Battery Usage / Cell standby, what is your time without signal? If it's high (like over 10%) this will eat your battery, so you'll need to reset the radio by quickly going into airplane mode (hold power) and leaving airplane mode. TWS will drop quickly. Weird bug, you'll have to do this once every reboot, hope it gets fixed.
Also, if you are in an area like work or home that has wi-fi, leave it always on, turn off "notify open networks" and hit Menu / Advanced to switch the wi-fi policy to "never sleep". When you are at home or work the phone will auto connect to these places and do all data over wi-fi which uses less power than 3G, even when the screen is asleep.
Finally, while I leave on window animations & Google Talk, I turn brightness in the browser and on the phone all the way down and turn off haptic feedback except for the capacitive buttons.
I've been unplugged since 8:30am and have been at work & home and texting all day, light surfing, a few phone calls, apps, etc, and now at 10pm I have 65% battery remaining. I think that's pretty good.
ss4rob said:
I've been unplugged since 8:30am and have been at work & home and texting all day, light surfing, a few phone calls, apps, etc, and now at 10pm I have 65% battery remaining. I think that's pretty good.
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Wha?! All that and still 65% by 10pm? If I let my phone sit on the desk from 8:30 am by 10pm I would probably be less than 65%.
The range of experiences is just way too wide on this board. I like this phone so much that I've decided to just accept it drains battery and have chargers everywhere. Plus I have 2 in my house purchased in different stores that exhibit the same power consumption.
ss4rob said:
Also, if you are in an area like work or home that has wi-fi, leave it always on, turn off "notify open networks" and hit Menu / Advanced to switch the wi-fi policy to "never sleep". When you are at home or work the phone will auto connect to these places and do all data over wi-fi which uses less power than 3G, even when the screen is asleep.
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You wanna explain this to me? Do you mean ALWAYS have wi-fi enabled? Or just when I'm at home? I use wi-fi at home for both the better battery life and faster speeds, but I was under the impression that if I always had it on that it would always be searching for signal, thus being entirely counterproductive.
mc-fine said:
Wha?! All that and still 65% by 10pm? If I let my phone sit on the desk from 8:30 am by 10pm I would probably be less than 65%.
The range of experiences is just way too wide on this board. I like this phone so much that I've decided to just accept it drains battery and have chargers everywhere. Plus I have 2 in my house purchased in different stores that exhibit the same power consumption.
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This. I don't have all the chargers yet, but come Friday, I'll have two house chargers, an extra computer cable (for school/work), and my car charger. This phone is too awesome to let my battery life ruin it.
I've noticed that web browsing kills it fastest, which wasn't a surprise at all. I usually get 8-10 hours out of it, which is a lot lower than desired, but something I can live with. At least if I get my chargers, I can save the overall life of the battery.
Another thing to mention:
Vibration, while convenient and least annoying to everyone else, is the most power-draining notification you can use. Next is audio. Last is silence (obviously). Having it make noise AND vibrate is like signing your battery life's death warrant.
i think hydralisks epic runs on fairy dust and unicorn blood bc my epic sucked battery like no other.. and thats...screen brightness at 0...no programs running at all. and it still said 77% of battery drain was from the display. lol
+1 yeah battery life does suck worst than evo I rebooted phone once and it was at 40% came back on at 2% had similar problems with moment just have to deal with it juicedefender does help overall its horrible
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ryan74701 said:
i think hydralisks epic runs on fairy dust and unicorn blood bc my epic sucked battery like no other.. and thats...screen brightness at 0...no programs running at all. and it still said 77% of battery drain was from the display. lol
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Fairy dust and unicorn blood = I know how to use a phone. Copying word for word what I posted in the other battery life thread............
I'm convinced that if you know what you're doing, you can make the battery last very long.
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First one reads: 21 hours and 29 minutes. For almost 4 hours of that, the screen is on. So you people saying you get 5 hours of battery life are doing something very wrong... or you have a bad phone. I can easily surpass 4 hours battery life with the screen on the whole time. Some of you don't seem to realize that once the phone hits 10-15%, it takes a LONG TIME to get it down to 0%. This is probably due to the battery just not being calibrated yet. At 6% battery I actually had to watch a whole hour of movies to get it to 0%... and even then the phone did not shut down.
Edit: phone was in airplane mode because the battery was at 0% and I didn't want it to crash before I snapped the photos. Cell standby is a major killer of battery. A solution to that (if you have a large cell standby number) is just to toggle airplane mode on and off when you boot up your phone. It works... dont know why. By my cell standby is almost always down to 5-10% now. More info on this issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772571
i agree with hydralisk, try toggling the airport mode on and then off. it will reboot the antenna of the epic. the cell standby mode totally drains the phone's battery reguardless of user activity or not. mine was 51% without signal but after the airport mode toggling, it dropped down to 8% without signal and my battery is somewhat better. (i'm a hardcore user so 8-10 hours is awesome for me. haha)
I can say that my first Epic was a bad phone. It wouldn't even last 3 hours on a single charge! It would discharge while browsing amazon.com and bn.com using the built-in browser and while plugged into the AC charger. I thought I was seeing things.
Today, I've exchanged it for a 2nd Epic. It still does discharge when I'm pounding away on it even though it's plugged into a USB charger. But otherwise, everything else is looking at lot better now, especially AC charging.
So there are good and there are some very bad examples of the Epic out there. I believe I've personally had my hands on both kinds.
e3chaos said:
sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
edit: mods you can just delete this thread. i also hate clutter and hate that my rant has added to it. (hopefully we get some sort of update/custom rom soon that fixes battery!)
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I'm getting great life with the latest rooted kernel by noobl. 5 hours and phones at 98% medium usage
i am getting similar hours to hydralisk.
i love this phone! it looks like there may be a few bad apples in the bunch, but i hope everyone else who got a good phone is enjoying it as well!
Yes, according to this guy.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/galaxy-tab/44768-bettery-life-results.html
Anyone feel the same way?
its better than i expected, but i doubt its better than sammys tests
Same here it seem way better than I expected but I haven't tested the battery life thoroughly yet but indeed it is very good.
Tomorrow I will be flying back home. I'll be in the air for about 6 hours. I have 2 movies to watch, plus I'll be playing games and will listen to music. I am planning not to charge my tab until I get home. Let's see how it goes. I will update.
Being that my battery use is ~80% display, i should probably consider turning down the brightness. Still, I have been playing with it here and there throught the day (about 7 hours away from the charger now) and the battery level is still 75%
Somebody needs to find a way to mod the autobrightness to have a few options...I like the feature, but it is just a bit too dim for me.
beestee said:
Being that my battery use is ~80% display, i should probably consider turning down the brightness. Still, I have been playing with it here and there throught the day (about 7 hours away from the charger now) and the battery level is still 75%
Somebody needs to find a way to mod the autobrightness to have a few options...I like the feature, but it is just a bit too dim for me.
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My tab lost 10% battery for one hour medium usage (display on, 30% brightness, reading mainly). Dose it mean I have a battery issue here?
raymentchen said:
My tab lost 10% battery for one hour medium usage (display on, 30% brightness, reading mainly). Dose it mean I have a battery issue here?
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no. it just depends on what your doing. Wifi signal strength, Cell radio strength. the position of the moon and sun, etc.
BTW, battery life does not decrease linearly. so the numbers in that post are ridiculous.
the discharge curve will look something similar to this in most cases
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(red line, also note phones cut off the extreme ends of the scale with regards to voltage to promote cell life)
it takes a few days for the battery (more specifically the charging circuitry) to get into a 'groove' when it comes to properly charging the battery and displaying the correct percentage.
if you want to know more about the Batteries in our phones and Tablets look at RCcar and RC plane sites. they use the same batteries as phones do so pretty much everything you learn there will apply here (except our phones don't draw 20+amps! )
http://www.fmadirect.com/lipo_handbook/fma_lipo_handbook_section2.htm
Mine can easily last and day and a half, very impressed with the battery
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no. it just depends on what your doing. Wifi signal strength, Cell radio strength. the position of the moon and sun, etc.
BTW, battery life does not decrease linearly. so the numbers in that post are ridiculous.
the discharge curve will look something similar to this in most cases
(red line, also note phones cut off the extreme ends of the scale with regards to voltage to promote cell life)
it takes a few days for the battery (more specifically the charging circuitry) to get into a 'groove' when it comes to properly charging the battery and displaying the correct percentage.
if you want to know more about the Batteries in our phones and Tablets look at RCcar and RC plane sites. they use the same batteries as phones do so pretty much everything you learn there will apply here (except our phones don't draw 20+amps! )
http://www.fmadirect.com/lipo_handbook/fma_lipo_handbook_section2.htm
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Well, I understand you saying here. But 10% (90% to 80%) per hour for reading ebook only is far away from having a good battery at 4000mah. I will give it a few more days to check.
calin75 said:
Tomorrow I will be flying back home. I'll be in the air for about 6 hours. I have 2 movies to watch, plus I'll be playing games and will listen to music. I am planning not to charge my tab until I get home. Let's see how it goes. I will update.
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Well? How did that go?
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raymentchen said:
Well, I understand you saying here. But 10% (90% to 80%) per hour for reading ebook only is far away from having a good battery at 4000mah. I will give it a few more days to check.
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That's 10 hours at that usage, give or take, and right around what I'm seeing, 10% per hour of actual usage as an ebook, about 2-5% per hour if it's just sitting there connected, and about 15-20%/hour with heavy surfing or game playing.
I expect if I'm careful and keep the connectivity to a bare minimum, I can stretch 12 hours out of it when travelling.
Oh, and everyone...let the battery run down to zero at least once, preferably twice. We're talking total discharge to the point the phone turns itself off, then charge to 100%. This doesn't hurt or help the battery, but it does help make the actual battery monitoring more accurate.
honestly im not too impressed with the battery. i think the standby time sucks too. the iPad doesnt do a lot of things right, but the one thing it seems to do is to last for days. i realize the battery is close to twice as big but i was just use to that. i mean sure i dont use my ipad anymore, but it seems to last forever. anway, when i first got my tab, i managed to drain it in less than 6 hours. that was right out of the box (so it proly wasnt full all the way, but close to it). i was mad when that happened. that was with the brightness on auto and everything turned off except wifi. i could be just expecting too much. i thought conditioning the battery would be good for it. so i let it die all the way and recharged it to full. today, i wouldnt say i used the tablet like i usually would (i am a HEAVY user) and its been less than 12 hours and its already at 21%. this time it was running on 3G and brightness on low (not all the way, but about 30% or so). i dont even set the brightness to the highest cuz its too bright, auto seems to work the best. maybe im just being a tough critic. i mean my nexus only lasts like 5 hours now a days cuz i just use it too much. but im so use to just picking up another battery and moving along.
been having a good battery life after draining the battery to 3% twice then charging it to full again and now it almost last me 2 days better than my old nexus one using it primarily for comic book reading and bluetooth stereo music almost 6hrs. per day and a little gaming of angry birds and a little video and youtube + browsing calling and texting really don't like games too much
@croak
i've read a forum sometime ago that it's bad to drain li-ion to 0% so i think its better to drain it to near zero before charging again as i've read it may damage the cells if you drain it to 0%
how often should we condition the battery? (let it drain near 0 and charge up)
geogetski666 said:
@croak
i've read a forum sometime ago that it's bad to drain li-ion to 0% so i think its better to drain it to near zero before charging again as i've read it may damage the cells if you drain it to 0%
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Doesn't hurt a lithium ion battery much at all, it's just another charge cycle.
But if you don't go down to the point that the device shuts off at least once, your battery meter can and often will be off by a good bit. There's never any confirmation. When yours was reading 3%, it might have actually been 8%, or it may have been 1% or less, but until you zero it out, you'll never know, and neither will the device. It'll still know when it's at 100%, but any reading below that can be inaccurate.
And keep in mind, this is NOT zero charge, it is not completely drained (the device does the auto-shutdown specifically to AVOID a complete drain).
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how often should we condition the battery? (let it drain near 0 and charge up)
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Lithium Ion batteries don't need to be conditioned. But if you want to calibrate the battery meter, you'll need to do it at least once.
Using my Tab as a 3rd device, with my 1st being a HTC Evo and my 2nd being a Motorola i890, i am very impressed with the battery. Even treating my 1st and 2nd devices as red-headed step children and my Tab being in my hands more then them, my battery is yet to go below 50% in a day, the week i have had it. Even with checking 7 different email accounts every 5 min. Also, my Tab is on Wifi a majority of the day, which i would think puts more of a drain on the battery.
i was a little worried when i found out that the battery was not accessable to be able to swap it out at some point of the day. I have (6) batteries for my Evo, 2 red and 4 blacks. Before my tab, if my evo didnt touch a charger during the day, i would use atleast 4 of those batteries during the day. Yea, the size difference between the Evo and Tab battery is different, so i figured i wouldnt need 5 more Tab batteries, but atleast 1 or 2 extra.
My only complaint with regards to Power/Charging is the length of the USB Charge/Data cable. It is super short. i bought a 6ft extention @ Staples for about $5!
The fresh Tab battery is only spoiling us and will get worse as time goes by. I have been looking for other options in the mean time. Here are a few options i found:
ZAGGsparq 4000 mAh $90 @ fommy
Mophie - Juice Pack Powerstation 3600 mAh $99 @ BestBuy
ClearMax External Battery Pack 5000 mAh $39 @ eBay (questionable)
eGear UB-181 1800 mAh $19 @ eBay
eGear S220 (3-way charge: Solar,ac&usb) 2200 mAh $39 @ eBay
Yoobao YB-602 Power Bank (White or Black) 4800mAh $49 @ eBay
Personally, i think i am going with the Yoobao or Mophie or ZAGG.
***EDIT***
the ZAGGsparq is 6000 mAh, NOT 4000 like i stated above...
Yoobao has only 800 mA of output, too few !
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The ZAGG has 2 x 1000 mAh. i wonder what the output is @ 1? I doubt very much that it is 1 x 2000 mAh...
Im impress with the batterry , way much better than my Ipad that I just sold ...
Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
gravewormx said:
Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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What "theme" are you using?
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
dressanderc said:
What "theme" are you using?
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I'm using a black background and lime tiles...
XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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well, I been having it for a week now. I seen no difference in battery life. But imma give it another week or so. See if this works. Then I'm gonna try buying different battery. If that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to switch back to my Samsung Captivate. I would hate doing this, but this type of battery life is a deal breaker. Today, it was even worse! It lasted me only 9hrs while I was at work, which at least 8 of those hrs it was on stand by!
Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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yeah, I'm going to try this on my day off which is on Monday. Also gives me time to test out the other persons suggestion
thanks for your opinions. I'll get back to you guys and see what happens.
My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I don't use the Bluetooth at all. So this can't be the problem. but thanks anyways. (I might need this information since I was planing on using one in the near future).
So I notice that now, my Surround does get better battery life. (which is absolutely crazy! since now I have the screen brightness on medium and data turn on lol). I guess the battery just needed to be use and charge a bit more. However, I still think battery life could be improved. (hopefully, future updates will teak some system settings that will do this)
I have also decided that I will keep my Surround instead of going back to my Captivate I wish battery life would be better and the OS to be more "open" but truth be told, I fell in love with my phone haha Then when i went back to my Samsung Captivate, it felt weird. Android felt much slower.
So i gave it a little test; I launched messaging, email, music, browser, etc on both phones at the same time. Turns out both of them launch these native applications in the same amount of time.
I guess what makes WP7 fell smother and faster is the (eyecandy) transitions.
think its the battery
ya i have had mine for 2 weeks now and i think the problem is the fact that the battery is a 1230mAh, and we also have a samsung focus with a 1450mAh battery that will last an exra 2-3 hours longer which makes a huge difference! im hoping htc will make a larger mAh battery avaliable, mine will only last anywhere from 5-7 hours from normal use
I just ordered a Mugen 1300mah battery..not *much* more capacity, but hopefully it helps a bit!
if i dont use my surround (like not using too much 3g, wifi, music, gaming, and just normal phone calls and texts) it can last a whole day and probably a lil more, but when i do too much 3g/wifi/gaming/music it drains quickkkkkk.
and i do hope htc will have a larger capacity battery for the surround soon... 1230 is kinda small compare to other phones nowadays..
but still this has much better battery life than my previous phones (diamond2 and touchpro)
i just find myself carrying the usb cable and wall charger alot in my bag :]
and having a car charger is a plus also.
My girlfreind has had the phone since xmas. Initially the battery would lose its charge very quickly. I had her do a bump charge and just let the battery settle in. She can now go up a third day wothout the need for a charge with moderate txt.
Be aware the quick drop whenn taking it off the charger is NORMAL. Read this thread for a discussion of that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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Agree - Bad Battery Life - But not as bad as some....
Smart phones, in general, aren't what I would call great at conserving battery life under any condition. Pick any model of high-end smart phone and tell me who can get more than 2 days (using every trick in the book to eliminate unnecessary drain). Yes, this phone is under-powered in terms of only having a 1300 mAh battery when it should have a 1400 or 1500.
Cut the unnecessary stuff when you are not using it - Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
You can easily get a day + out of this phone with moderate/mixed use (some talking, some browsing, some multi-media viewing). That's pretty good, I'd say (from my relative experience across many different types of smart phones). I just plug it in every night.....pick it up in the morning and go. Haven't had any issues with it running out during the day.
Now, if you are starting first thing in the morning and running movies, have the bluetooth going, the WiFi on........well, heck yes, you are going to have a battery drain problem. If you want to run it that way.....just leave it plugged in.
Has anyone used a Seidio Innocell 1300mAh Replacement battery? Was wondering if it was worth the investment to improve the Surround's poor battery performance.
Thanks,
So...when is someone gonna step up to the plate and improve battery technology? It really sucks that these phone manufacturers are giving us ALL these fancy features that drain the battery and when we complain about having poor battery life they are telling us to not use all those fancy features...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a smartphone, am I right?
guys .. wake PLZ UP ))
1 ghz (1-2 core cpu ) ..
3.8 and more screen ..
DEDICATED GRAPHICS .
OS .
with DIRECTX9 Interface .
and that all spiced up with 1600 ma battery in best case .
and that you wana to run more then 6 hours on full load ? say THX TO MS .. for NON multitask os .. overwise battery life was even more lol then this
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My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
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I noticed this as well. As time went by the battery actually started to last longer. When i first got it i used it less than i do now and the battery would die before i even got home for work. Now it lasts till about an hour or so after i finish and get home.
does the surround use the same battery as the HTC desire HD?
Theres an ebay seller that is selling a surround battery and wall charger but the wall charger has a sticker that says: For HTC Desire HD