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Terrible Battery Life!

I got my Vibrant a few days ago and as of today i can only get 4-5 hours max out of the whole battery and thats with heavy to moderate use.. does anyone else seem to have this problem.. im gonna return the phone and get a new one but does anyone else seem to have this?
I really dont understand why this is so bad..

4 or 5 hours of heavy use is about all I get. That is if I'm constantly messing with it. E.g. web, email, facebook,ect. However I think this phone has excellent battery life when I'm not constantly playing with it. Wifi definitely drains it quicker. And stupid apps like facebook. I periodically mess with my phone throughout the work day and by the time I get home I usually have about 75% battery remaining. I think that's pretty good.

ElChibo said:
I got my Vibrant a few days ago and as of today i can only get 4-5 hours max out of the whole battery and thats with heavy to moderate use.. does anyone else seem to have this problem.. im gonna return the phone and get a new one but does anyone else seem to have this?
I really dont understand why this is so bad..
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THE BATTERY IS TERRIBLE. thats why i returned it, and the slow acrolling from screen to screen with stock software

I think you can only expect about 4 hours of awake time use on this phone. I haven't had much trouble with mine, I get about 13-14 hours per charge. But my phone its idle 9-10 hours of the day.
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stepinmyworld said:
THE BATTERY IS TERRIBLE. thats why i returned it, and the slow acrolling from screen to screen with stock software
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Then why are you still in the vibrant forums... move on...

I would think by now people would be use to the type of battery life you get with these types of phones. With heavy usage your not going to last all day just how it is until battery tech catches up to phone tech. I use mine a above moderate usage and some days heavy usage. From when I unplug it at 7:00am the battery is down to about 10 to 15% by the time I leave work at 4:00pm. Thats a lot better than my HD2, Cliq, MT3G and G1.

temperbad said:
Then why are you still in the vibrant forums... move on...
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I agree 100%. Im seeing a lot of this. One thing I dont see is the "Vibrant Complaint" forum. Can't understand why ppl feel the need to come back in here if they dont like, dont have or feel they need to bash the phone from their experience. Get rid of the phone or keep it and be patient, its that simple... or am I missing something?!?!?
speoples20 said:
I would think by now people would be use to the type of battery life you get with these types of phones. With heavy usage your not going to last all day just how it is until battery tech catches up to phone tech. I use mine a above moderate usage and some days heavy usage. From when I unplug it at 7:00am the battery is down to about 10 to 15% by the time I leave work at 4:00pm. Thats a lot better than my HD2, Cliq, MT3G and G1.
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Im almost in the same boat, much better battery life then my G1! I can get from 8-8pm with moderate usage and music palying for the last hour. I was experiencing horrible battery life (8-2/3pm) when I was running notifications with Bloo 1.5.apk, auto brightness on, and Advanced task manager running. Now that I have cut the notifications from bloo (got gmail for this anyway), set brightness to manual setting, and got rid of the task manager I am regularly seeing, after bering unplugged since 8(its now 1245) and im @ 85%. Try trimming down the services you have running in the background and by an extra battery or a car charger.

Id like love to try mine out when i get it tomorrow because with
Mytouch Slide, i had Facebook, Gmail and all the usual stuff syncing and it lasted me close to 8-12 hours of Web, texting and just playing around with it throughout the day.
The Nexus One Was the same lasted me some good 10-14 hours a day syncing the usual stuff along with the weather and such. So Id expect the vibrant to be the same, or Else im returning it and thats the end of it. That also goes for lagging issues as well. And most likely get a different android phone or go back to the N1 and Switch Forums....

Have you ever owned a Smartphone before? Thats normal if you are using it heavily.

androidmonkey said:
Have you ever owned a Smartphone before? Thats normal if you are using it heavily.
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no its not normal.. ive used my MT3G with heavy use gives me at least if not more than 7-8 hours use.. what i dont understand is why the hell it takes so long for my battery to charge.

ElChibo said:
no its not normal.. ive used my MT3G with heavy use gives me at least if not more than 7-8 hours use.. what i dont understand is why the hell it takes so long for my battery to charge.
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I get 6-8 hours.

I think 5 hours of juice is really good relative to your heavy usage. I always get 15 - 18 hours a day. That's with moderate use. Even playing a game of Armored Strike for an hour. This is the best battery i've had on a phone. I can easily get over a day and a half or even more once I settle down and stop using it so much more than I need to [ because I just got it.... ]

If this is what you consider to be terrible, I don't mind how terrible my battery life at all. I made a few calls, used GPS a few times, always listening to music.. some market downloads, pictures taken. SetCPU at 1000MHZ 100% of the time.
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29% left!

Disable Google Talk. My battery life was excellent (typically all day on full charge with heavy use). I signed into google talk one day and was lucky to get 4hrs before charging was needed. I deselected the auto sign in option and killed it in the running services section. Battery life has gotten so much better 70% after 4.5hrs.

i think the battery life for my vibrant is pretty epic. when i went to cm5.0.8 and cm6 on my g1 i calibrated the battery and thought i was getting really good battery life. then i got the vibrant. i could probably make it two whole days without a charge with how i use my phone (probably moderate-light compared to most on here).
but one thing i do agree with is this phone takes FOREVER to charge.

Hmm.....
Ok.....well I consider myself a moderate-heavy user...
On that note, I actually use my phone for work calls, emails, plus personal calls and emails as well....and i'm an avid gamer and already have many games on my Vibrant and use it to play them regularly.....then there is the fact that I travel for work....a lot, so I constantly using google voice search and maps to find where i need to go (never use the gps though)....I used the internet all the time, especially on WiFi (higher battery drain)....and don't get me started on the movies, music and youtube....plus while at work I have Pandora running from my phone throughout the day....
So how is my battery life? I unplug my phone every morning at 9am, with all that use I don't need to plug it in again till 10-11pm (12-14hrs!!).....by that time of course the battery level is at 5-15%.....But I'm definitely not complaining....
I do however disable the auto-brightness feature....AND turn down my brightness to about 30%....50% brightness cuts about 2 hours off of the battery life....
But a GREAT PHONE!!! Loving my new Galaxy S Vibrant

funeralthirst said:
i think the battery life for my vibrant is pretty epic. when i went to cm5.0.8 and cm6 on my g1 i calibrated the battery and thought i was getting really good battery life. then i got the vibrant. i could probably make it two whole days without a charge with how i use my phone (probably moderate-light compared to most on here).
but one thing i do agree with is this phone takes FOREVER to charge.
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yeah, i feel the same way. As far as phone taking forever to charge, are you using the usb-computer charger or usb-wall? The usb-computer can be very weak depending on your system.
Charging from pc, i would wake up only to see 65%. That's pretty crazy. On the wall charger, it takes less about 4-5 hours every time.

Anyone loosing like 6 percent in the first 15 minutes after a full charge? 15 minutes ago i was 100% now im at 94....

I get better battery life than i got on my G1.
These are not cell phones... they are tinny laptops that you can press against your face and make phone calls.
This thing has more features than the $1200 gaming PC i built 2 months ago.

I had bad battery life the first day. Turned the phone off late at night and let it charge full. Battery has been wonderful since then.

My battery life...

sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
edit: mods you can just delete this thread. i also hate clutter and hate that my rant has added to it. (hopefully we get some sort of update/custom rom soon that fixes battery!)

e3chaos said:
sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
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The battery life on my EVO is not better.
What do you do with the phone that drains it so much?
Open up your battery statistics. What is using it the most? How long is your display on for (select "display" from battery history and it will say long long it has been on for).
Have you charged it correctly for 1st time use? (charge to 100%, then drain to 0, then charge to 100% again)?
Seems like you are experiencing much faster battery drain than expected. My battery lasts all day long with light use (~22 hours). 10-12 hours under heavy use (3-4 hours of screen on time). I use juice defender as well, and I keep my screen brightness at 0% (still pretty bright) unless I go outside).

hydralisk said:
The battery life on my EVO is not better.
What do you do with the phone that drains it so much?
Open up your battery statistics. What is using it the most? How long is your display on for (select "display" from battery history and it will say long long it has been on for).
Have you charged it correctly for 1st time use? (charge to 100%, then drain to 0, then charge to 100% again)?
Seems like you are experiencing much faster battery drain than expected. My battery lasts all day long with light use (~22 hours). 10-12 hours under heavy use (3-4 hours of screen on time). I use juice defender as well, and I keep my screen brightness at 0% (still pretty bright) unless I go outside).
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i've done everything you said. this isn't my first smart phone.. i've been around a long time. :-/. from what i have been reading some have been getting the ok battery life while others are in the sinking boat with me. just frustrating..i've been giving it more than one chance since i got it at 8am 1 week ago.

Bro turn off wat u don't need. Auto sync is adrain and having data connected is a drain as well. If ur not using the data then turn it off. U can still txt n get calls. N when u wanna check the net or watever then turn it bak on.
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I tried all of that with my epic but it sucked the battery way worse than my evo
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In Battery Usage / Cell standby, what is your time without signal? If it's high (like over 10%) this will eat your battery, so you'll need to reset the radio by quickly going into airplane mode (hold power) and leaving airplane mode. TWS will drop quickly. Weird bug, you'll have to do this once every reboot, hope it gets fixed.
Also, if you are in an area like work or home that has wi-fi, leave it always on, turn off "notify open networks" and hit Menu / Advanced to switch the wi-fi policy to "never sleep". When you are at home or work the phone will auto connect to these places and do all data over wi-fi which uses less power than 3G, even when the screen is asleep.
Finally, while I leave on window animations & Google Talk, I turn brightness in the browser and on the phone all the way down and turn off haptic feedback except for the capacitive buttons.
I've been unplugged since 8:30am and have been at work & home and texting all day, light surfing, a few phone calls, apps, etc, and now at 10pm I have 65% battery remaining. I think that's pretty good.

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ss4rob said:
I've been unplugged since 8:30am and have been at work & home and texting all day, light surfing, a few phone calls, apps, etc, and now at 10pm I have 65% battery remaining. I think that's pretty good.
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Wha?! All that and still 65% by 10pm? If I let my phone sit on the desk from 8:30 am by 10pm I would probably be less than 65%.
The range of experiences is just way too wide on this board. I like this phone so much that I've decided to just accept it drains battery and have chargers everywhere. Plus I have 2 in my house purchased in different stores that exhibit the same power consumption.

ss4rob said:
Also, if you are in an area like work or home that has wi-fi, leave it always on, turn off "notify open networks" and hit Menu / Advanced to switch the wi-fi policy to "never sleep". When you are at home or work the phone will auto connect to these places and do all data over wi-fi which uses less power than 3G, even when the screen is asleep.
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You wanna explain this to me? Do you mean ALWAYS have wi-fi enabled? Or just when I'm at home? I use wi-fi at home for both the better battery life and faster speeds, but I was under the impression that if I always had it on that it would always be searching for signal, thus being entirely counterproductive.
mc-fine said:
Wha?! All that and still 65% by 10pm? If I let my phone sit on the desk from 8:30 am by 10pm I would probably be less than 65%.
The range of experiences is just way too wide on this board. I like this phone so much that I've decided to just accept it drains battery and have chargers everywhere. Plus I have 2 in my house purchased in different stores that exhibit the same power consumption.
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This. I don't have all the chargers yet, but come Friday, I'll have two house chargers, an extra computer cable (for school/work), and my car charger. This phone is too awesome to let my battery life ruin it.
I've noticed that web browsing kills it fastest, which wasn't a surprise at all. I usually get 8-10 hours out of it, which is a lot lower than desired, but something I can live with. At least if I get my chargers, I can save the overall life of the battery.
Another thing to mention:
Vibration, while convenient and least annoying to everyone else, is the most power-draining notification you can use. Next is audio. Last is silence (obviously). Having it make noise AND vibrate is like signing your battery life's death warrant.

i think hydralisks epic runs on fairy dust and unicorn blood bc my epic sucked battery like no other.. and thats...screen brightness at 0...no programs running at all. and it still said 77% of battery drain was from the display. lol

+1 yeah battery life does suck worst than evo I rebooted phone once and it was at 40% came back on at 2% had similar problems with moment just have to deal with it juicedefender does help overall its horrible
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ryan74701 said:
i think hydralisks epic runs on fairy dust and unicorn blood bc my epic sucked battery like no other.. and thats...screen brightness at 0...no programs running at all. and it still said 77% of battery drain was from the display. lol
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Fairy dust and unicorn blood = I know how to use a phone. Copying word for word what I posted in the other battery life thread............
I'm convinced that if you know what you're doing, you can make the battery last very long.
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First one reads: 21 hours and 29 minutes. For almost 4 hours of that, the screen is on. So you people saying you get 5 hours of battery life are doing something very wrong... or you have a bad phone. I can easily surpass 4 hours battery life with the screen on the whole time. Some of you don't seem to realize that once the phone hits 10-15%, it takes a LONG TIME to get it down to 0%. This is probably due to the battery just not being calibrated yet. At 6% battery I actually had to watch a whole hour of movies to get it to 0%... and even then the phone did not shut down.
Edit: phone was in airplane mode because the battery was at 0% and I didn't want it to crash before I snapped the photos. Cell standby is a major killer of battery. A solution to that (if you have a large cell standby number) is just to toggle airplane mode on and off when you boot up your phone. It works... dont know why. By my cell standby is almost always down to 5-10% now. More info on this issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772571

i agree with hydralisk, try toggling the airport mode on and then off. it will reboot the antenna of the epic. the cell standby mode totally drains the phone's battery reguardless of user activity or not. mine was 51% without signal but after the airport mode toggling, it dropped down to 8% without signal and my battery is somewhat better. (i'm a hardcore user so 8-10 hours is awesome for me. haha)

I can say that my first Epic was a bad phone. It wouldn't even last 3 hours on a single charge! It would discharge while browsing amazon.com and bn.com using the built-in browser and while plugged into the AC charger. I thought I was seeing things.
Today, I've exchanged it for a 2nd Epic. It still does discharge when I'm pounding away on it even though it's plugged into a USB charger. But otherwise, everything else is looking at lot better now, especially AC charging.
So there are good and there are some very bad examples of the Epic out there. I believe I've personally had my hands on both kinds.

e3chaos said:
sucks. I know there are threads about this but I just am sick of this. I had the Evo for a bit and I swear that battery life was better.
I don't know if its because of my crappy reception or what--but I can't even last a morning of light use with this phone. Super annoying... I had high expectations but when i'm getting low battery warnings before noon with barely using the phone at all, something has got to be wrong. I did a factory reset, did a full discharge/full charge. after it said fully charged i unplugged and plugged back in. i don't know what else to try. should i replace my phone? ask for a different battery? the date on the battery is 8/14.
Ok my rant is over...publicly that is.
edit: mods you can just delete this thread. i also hate clutter and hate that my rant has added to it. (hopefully we get some sort of update/custom rom soon that fixes battery!)
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I'm getting great life with the latest rooted kernel by noobl. 5 hours and phones at 98% medium usage

i am getting similar hours to hydralisk.
i love this phone! it looks like there may be a few bad apples in the bunch, but i hope everyone else who got a good phone is enjoying it as well!

Battery Power!

I use an external battery charger and switch out between two batteries. I rarely ever use the USB to charge it. I always get 18-26 hours of use before I switch out. 18 hours is after all day in the car with the GPS going.
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One hour and I'm still at 100% I had to share that. When ever I use the USB charger, it drops to 97% within a few minutes. : ) I had just gotten off the phone with my wife. A 20 minute call.
I recommend a second batter to everyone. Way better charge externally.
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I would have used a screen shot but I wanted to grab it before it dropped.

a454nova said:
I use an external battery charger and switch out between two batteries. I rarely ever use the USB to charge it. I always get 18-26 hours of use before I switch out. 18 hours is after all day in the car with the GPS going.
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One hour and I'm still at 100% I had to share that. When ever I use the USB charger, it drops to 97% within a few minutes. : ) I had just gotten off the phone with my wife. A 20 minute call.
I recommend a second batter to everyone. Way better charge externally.
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I would have used a screen shot but I wanted to grab it before it dropped.
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I can get 18 hours too, if I don't touch it ONCE all day. Too bad that's not how a phone is usually used.

J3ff said:
I can get 18 hours too, if I don't touch it ONCE all day. Too bad that's not how a phone is usually used.
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Then you have your phone set up inefficiently. If I didn't touch my phone, it would last for about 4 days.

muyoso said:
Then you have your phone set up inefficiently. If I didn't touch my phone, it would last for about 4 days.
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Well how do you have your phone set up? I just charged to 100% and lost about 20% in under 2 hours. Trying to calibrate battery since I just changed ROM's even though that never seemed to help me before. No matter what ROM/KERNAL I use, my battery seems to be the same.. (About 10 hours if even that with medium usage)

sryans2004 said:
Well how do you have your phone set up? I just charged to 100% and lost about 20% in under 2 hours. Trying to calibrate battery since I just changed ROM's even though that never seemed to help me before. No matter what ROM/KERNAL I use, my battery seems to be the same.. (About 10 hours if even that with medium usage)
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I set up my phone to lose as little battery life as possible when I am not using it. I have it set to underclock the CPU when the screen is off. I have juicedefender turn off the wifi and data when the screen is off, with a schedule set to 5 mins every 2 hours so that I can receive emails. I have autostarts disable the DRM services upon reboot. I have tasker auto toggle the airplane mode upon reboot. I run Pheonix 1.43 kernel because I get the best battery life with it. If I leave my phone sitting for an hour without using it, it loses under 1% of battery life. This allows me to send 50 texts a day and take about 30 minutes of phone calls and play about an hour of angry birds and check a few emails and browse a few websites and still get 18 hours of battery life.

muyoso said:
I set up my phone to lose as little battery life as possible when I am not using it. I have it set to underclock the CPU when the screen is off. I have juicedefender turn off the wifi and data when the screen is off, with a schedule set to 5 mins every 2 hours so that I can receive emails. I have autostarts disable the DRM services upon reboot. I have tasker auto toggle the airplane mode upon reboot. I run Pheonix 1.43 kernel because I get the best battery life with it. If I leave my phone sitting for an hour without using it, it loses under 1% of battery life. This allows me to send 50 texts a day and take about 30 minutes of phone calls and play about an hour of angry birds and check a few emails and browse a few websites and still get 18 hours of battery life.
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Tried Juicedefender & didn't seem to improve anything, also use autostart to disable DRM + unnecessary apps from starting up, I tried the airplane mode trick & used phoenix kernels up until yesterday. I even stopped everything from syncing such as Facebook & Google accounts (manually updated) I even disabled background data & didn't seem to improve battery life.. I must have a bad battery?
I got my EVO going 20+ hours when I had it with a few tricks, which I cant seem to do with my EPIC (not saying evo is better or anything so plz dont take it the wrong way) just trying to figure out what I can do to get my EPIC battery life better.

Why don't people just get the 2 battery on ebay for $10 and call it a day. That's what I did. I no longer worry about battery life, cause 3 is more than enough.

sryans2004 said:
Tried Juicedefender & didn't seem to improve anything, also use autostart to disable DRM + unnecessary apps from starting up, I tried the airplane mode trick & used phoenix kernels up until yesterday. I even stopped everything from syncing such as Facebook & Google accounts (manually updated) I even disabled background data & didn't seem to improve battery life.. I must have a bad battery?
I got my EVO going 20+ hours when I had it with a few tricks, which I cant seem to do with my EPIC (not saying evo is better or anything so plz dont take it the wrong way) just trying to figure out what I can do to get my EPIC battery life better.
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Really depends on your juicedefender settings. If you have it checking data every 5 minutes or choose not to turn data off with the scree, it wont do anything for you. If you set it up like I did, it will double your battery life.

shook187 said:
Why don't people just get the 2 battery on ebay for $10 and call it a day. That's what I did. I no longer worry about battery life, cause 3 is more than enough.
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This doesn't really have to be said but:
1. Swapping batteries is annoying.
2. Some people are too busy during the day to sit there and worry about it.

J3ff said:
This doesn't really have to be said but:
1. Swapping batteries is annoying.
2. Some people are too busy during the day to sit there and worry about it.
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complaining on a forum about battery life is annoying but they still find time to do it.

shook187 said:
complaining on a forum about battery life is annoying but they still find time to do it.
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Well here is how I think of it. I spent $250 on this phone + the monthly bill. Now why should I have to go out and buy an extra battery in order for me not to worry about my phone dieing when I am out.
My fiancée has a 1cent phone and always makes fun of me because I have a $250 phone that cant even last a whole day, and hers last 2+ days without even charging.
My point is I should not have to go out and spend more money when I spent as much as I did on the phone itself. I am not complaining about battery life, i am trying to get tips on how to help improve it.

sryans2004 said:
Well here is how I think of it. I spent $250 on this phone + the monthly bill. Now why should I have to go out and buy an extra battery in order for me not to worry about my phone dieing when I am out.
My fiancée has a 1cent phone and always makes fun of me because I have a $250 phone that cant even last a whole day, and hers last 2+ days without even charging.
My point is I should not have to go out and spend more money when I spent as much as I did on the phone itself. I am not complaining about battery life, i am trying to get tips on how to help improve it.
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Im sure her phone doesn't have a 4" display a hummingbird processor. Its doesn't run android operating system or runs on 4g. One should know all that comes with a price. Price being battery life and $250 ;-)

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complaining on a forum about battery life is annoying but they still find time to do it.
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Maybe if I was here everyday complaining about it, 365 days a year then I'd agree with you.

One thing to think about also is that not all batteries are created equally. I have 3 Samsung OEM batteries and one of the Ebay knock offs. One of the Samsung batteries gets me close to 30 hours with moderate to heavy use on my current setup. The second one usually gets about 25 hours. The third gets me around 18 hours and I'm lucky if it doesn't lose 10% of its power sitting on my nightstand before I put it in the phone. The Ebay knockoff battery is good for 20 hours most of the time.

shook187 said:
Im sure her phone doesn't have a 4" display a hummingbird processor. Its doesn't run android operating system or runs on 4g. One should know all that comes with a price. Price being battery life and $250 ;-)
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but... what I was saying anyways, I got my EVO to run 20 + hours with some tweaks (no extra battery needed) which has bigger display and almost same processor, also runs android operating system. I'm not going to mention 4G because I don't even get 3G in my area let alone 4G.
I am just trying to figure out why a lot of people on here can do certain tweaks and get their battery life to be excellent while mine wont even last a day. I'm trying to figure out other tweaks I can do or if I just have a bad battery (not complaining)

J3ff said:
This doesn't really have to be said but:
1. Swapping batteries is annoying.
2. Some people are too busy during the day to sit there and worry about it.
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1. Ya right!
2. ah, Ya right
3. It takes 20 seconds, less if you don't have a case around it
4. It takes about the same amount of thought and effort to plug in the USB
5. Charges it way better.
I've never sit there and worry, hell its made my life faster. I'm always doing something and get caught with a dead phone.
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Well here is how I think of it. I spent $250 on this phone + the monthly bill. Now why should I have to go out and buy an extra battery in order for me not to worry about my phone dieing when I am out.
My fiancée has a 1cent phone and always makes fun of me because I have a $250 phone that cant even last a whole day, and hers last 2+ days without even charging.
My point is I should not have to go out and spend more money when I spent as much as I did on the phone itself. I am not complaining about battery life, i am trying to get tips on how to help improve it.
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You probably live life by that motto huh... lol

Whats the most battery life we've seen?

Alright so, I know people frequently post pictures of their battery life "Unplugged for" screenshots.
So I'm wondering, whats the longest we've seen, with atleast 2 and a half hours of display on-time?
And what ROM/Kernel were they using?
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Hit my personal best today, heres a screenshot:
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5% Battery remaining according to Battstatt.
Display time is 2 hours 26 minutes
Time without signal is 86% (Horrible service here)
Voice calls is 21m 13s

You didn't post what rom/kernel you are using.
I'm running the stock rom and getting fed up with the terrible battery life...so I'll be monitoring this thread to see what my best options are.

viperacr99 said:
You didn't post what rom/kernel you are using.
I'm running the stock rom and getting fed up with the terrible battery life...so I'll be monitoring this thread to see what my best options are.
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Oh my bad man.
I'm running Baked Snack 1.5 ROM with HeroSpecial#2 kernel right now.
Its still at 5% and currently 2d 19h 14m. Could prolly get 3days to read on there if I felt like it.

I have to say I'm getting amazing battery life with Baked snack 1.5. I had the phone running for one day and 18 hours, I spent about 3 hours on the phone and using it constantly to check messages. I'm very happy with my phone.I'm installing 1.6 now, it should make it to two days. I had WIFi on all day.

2 hours of display on time over 3 days? Anyone could get ridiculous battery life if they never use the phone.
The ONLY way to compare battery life semi equally across various roms/kernels/settings and setups is to restart the phone, turn off the display, leave it for several hours without using it at all, and measure what the %loss per hour is for a completely idle phone with no use. The longer you leave the phone idle, the more accurate the measurement of % loss per hour will be. We can then compare how much power various setups are using in idle as a baseline.
Anything other than that is open to people messing with their phone or turning on airplane mode or never using it and claiming amazing battery life.

muyoso said:
2 hours of display on time over 3 days? Anyone could get ridiculous battery life if they never use the phone.
The ONLY way to compare battery life semi equally across various roms/kernels/settings and setups is to restart the phone, turn off the display, leave it for several hours without using it at all, and measure what the %loss per hour is for a completely idle phone with no use. The longer you leave the phone idle, the more accurate the measurement of % loss per hour will be. We can then compare how much power various setups are using in idle as a baseline.
Anything other than that is open to people messing with their phone or turning on airplane mode or never using it and claiming amazing battery life.
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First, that was my normal use for those two + days, didn't have time to use my phone other than for texting and such. And if your a texter, than you know it only takes 20seconds TOPS to reply a text message, and texting is a majority of what I did with those two+ hours. so we'll say 1:45min of it was texting.
20seconds of on screen time per text = about 315 text messages, which is about what I did.
To me that is great battery life, if I can get that much battery to do that than I'm happy.
As for the way you stated, I guess this counts:
When I slept, I slept for 8 hours and some odd minutes and lost 3% the first night and slept I believe 6 hours and lost 2% the 2nd.
I guess that would mean 3hours idle = 1% battery drain judging by your method? Idk. Lol.

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First, that was my normal use for those two + days, didn't have time to use my phone other than for texting and such. And if your a texter, than you know it only takes 20seconds TOPS to reply a text message, and texting is a majority of what I did with those two+ hours. so we'll say 1:45min of it was texting.
20seconds of on screen time per text = about 315 text messages, which is about what I did.
To me that is great battery life, if I can get that much battery to do that than I'm happy.
As for the way you stated, I guess this counts:
When I slept, I slept for 8 hours and some odd minutes and lost 3% the first night and slept I believe 6 hours and lost 2% the 2nd.
I guess that would mean 3hours idle = 1% battery drain judging by your method? Idk. Lol.
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Ummm I don't even see why you need this phone if all you are going to do is text with it. There are so many other phones that are smaller, lighter and way better on battery if that is all you do. The LG rumor 2 comes to mind.

socos25 said:
Ummm I don't even see why you need this phone if all you are going to do is text with it. There are so many other phones that are smaller, lighter and way better on battery if that is all you do. The LG rumor 2 comes to mind.
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Meh, I guess since Baked Snacks thread got closed, none of you saw my post in it before it was, stating why I wasn't using my phone much -.-
I was back and forth to the hospital all this week, no time to worry about charging my phone and no time to use it much other than quickly texting. My grandmother is in there but thats a personal note and doesn't relate to any of this.
Anyway, point is, I wasn't able to worry about charging my phone much, and I was impressed that it made it through all that without dying on me, I was planning on not having a phone for a day because I knew I wouldn't be charging it. Thats why I was impressed.
But thanks for the suggestion of yours. I'll be sure to write it on the next piece of toilet paper I use.
And can we please get back to the original reason I posted this thread..?
Nobody has mentioned the best battery life they've seen on the epic.

SemiGamer said:
First, that was my normal use for those two + days, didn't have time to use my phone other than for texting and such. And if your a texter, than you know it only takes 20seconds TOPS to reply a text message, and texting is a majority of what I did with those two+ hours. so we'll say 1:45min of it was texting.
20seconds of on screen time per text = about 315 text messages, which is about what I did.
To me that is great battery life, if I can get that much battery to do that than I'm happy.
As for the way you stated, I guess this counts:
When I slept, I slept for 8 hours and some odd minutes and lost 3% the first night and slept I believe 6 hours and lost 2% the 2nd.
I guess that would mean 3hours idle = 1% battery drain judging by your method? Idk. Lol.
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Well that seems like some good battery life if you only lost 1 percent every 3 hours. Airplane mode? juicedefender?

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Well that seems like some good battery life if you only lost 1 percent every 3 hours. Airplane mode? juicedefender?
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Whats the normal drainage for idle phones?
Neither, I just turn 3G off and force roam it at home with Roam control because I get 1-bar while roaming and 0 bars with Sprint coverage at home so roaming helps the Time Without Signal a very little bit, on sprint it runs at 99% without signal at my house and on roam it runs at 80-90% without signal.

SemiGamer said:
Whats the normal drainage for idle phones?
Neither, I just turn 3G off and force roam it at home with Roam control because I get 1-bar while roaming and 0 bars with Sprint coverage at home so roaming helps the Time Without Signal a very little bit, on sprint it runs at 99% without signal at my house and on roam it runs at 80-90% without signal.
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I get a little under 1% an hour when idle usually. I would have to check it again tonight to see what I am currently getting. I am using phoenix 1.43 and EE 1.2.03. I use juicedefender and disable drm and toggle airplane mode and all that nonsense.

i'm curious what most people are getting for % battery loss with screen on. i feel like mine tends to be high across several ROMs and kernels. its varied somewhat of course, i've used AOSP magic, EE, Syndicate and on baked snack 1.6 now. my numbers show approx 1% battery loss for every 2 minutes of screen on. so that would only be 3hrs 20min of screen on time total which is junk, lol. anyone else got reports?

SemiGamer said:
First, that was my normal use for those two + days, didn't have time to use my phone other than for texting and such. And if your a texter, than you know it only takes 20seconds TOPS to reply a text message, and texting is a majority of what I did with those two+ hours. so we'll say 1:45min of it was texting.
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First, there's just way, way, WAY too much pissing and carping that goes on around here between people about their different usage models.
We each use the phone the way we use it. If you hardly turn it on, you'll get awesome battery life. If you use it like a combination phone/PSP/iPod/Nuvi all day long, you'll get horrible battery life.
I fall in the latter category. I use my phone for business, so I talk hours a day on it. I use it for navigation in the car. I watch probably 2+ hours a day of video on it in the evenings. I listen to music while I'm out and about. I play games when waiting around (like in the doctor's office).
I do all of this usually with wireless bluetooth.
So, I'm happy if I get 6-8 hours out of a full charge, which is rare. However, it's not because the Epic has a crappy battery or sucks juice... It's because I use it to it's full capability throughout the day, every day.
That said, muyoso's point is spot-on when it comes to comparing battery hog/waif in terms of ROMs and kernels. The only thing that matters is non-use. A setup should be very stingy and sip electrons when nothing's happening. Under interactive use, there's little to nothing a dev can do to squeeze more life out of 1500mAh than, well, 1500 mAh.
I've been running Syndicate 1.2 for 24 hours now, and I can say that when the phone is idled, it's far more stingy with power than the stock ROM. The latter drank milliwatts like it was weightlifting when it was asleep and nothing was going on. Syndicate seems to barely be breathing at all when the phone's asleep -- just how you want it to be.

dwallersv said:
First, there's just way, way, WAY too much pissing and carping that goes on around here between people about their different usage models.
We each use the phone the way we use it. If you hardly turn it on, you'll get awesome battery life. If you use it like a combination phone/PSP/iPod/Nuvi all day long, you'll get horrible battery life.
I fall in the latter category. I use my phone for business, so I talk hours a day on it. I use it for navigation in the car. I watch probably 2+ hours a day of video on it in the evenings. I listen to music while I'm out and about. I play games when waiting around (like in the doctor's office).
I do all of this usually with wireless bluetooth.
So, I'm happy if I get 6-8 hours out of a full charge, which is rare. However, it's not because the Epic has a crappy battery or sucks juice... It's because I use it to it's full capability throughout the day, every day.
That said, muyoso's point is spot-on when it comes to comparing battery hog/waif in terms of ROMs and kernels. The only thing that matters is non-use. A setup should be very stingy and sip electrons when nothing's happening. Under interactive use, there's little to nothing a dev can do to squeeze more life out of 1500mAh than, well, 15 mAh.
I've been running Syndicate 1.2 for 24 hours now, and I can say that when the phone is idled, it's far more stingy with power than the stock ROM. The latter drank milliwatts like it was weightlifting when it was asleep and nothing was going on. Syndicate seems to barely be breathing at all when the phone's asleep -- just how you want it to be.
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Absolutely spot on! And thanks for the plug.

amosher13 said:
i'm curious what most people are getting for % battery loss with screen on. i feel like mine tends to be high across several ROMs and kernels.
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Because of how an AMOLED screen works power usage will vary greatly depending on brightness setting. So, taking care to adjust the brightness to suit viewing conditions regularly can make a big difference -- or use auto brightness.
I don't think the latter does a very good job, and I don't like it surprise changing/adjusting while I'm using the phone, so in all my anal retentiveness I constant adjust it manually to suit me.
Thank God for the nice notification-bar-finger-slide-brightness feature that Sammy added.

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Absolutely spot on! And thanks for the plug.
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I forgot to mention that I also surf the web an hour or two a day too
It's a great ROM, once I learned not to try and be too lazy about restoring my previous setup
Hey, if you guys can engineer a fix to the incredibly stupid non-mixing, single-audio-source idiocy of Android's audio subsytem, I'll give you a very generous donation. I love almost everything about my Epic and Android, and haven't looked back wistfully to my WM Omnia II until I noticed this... Can't believe Google botched something as tecnically simple and unchallenging as this.
I mean, really... there's public domain, GPL code out there that could have just been plopped in to make a barely decent sound subsytem. It's a crime that my music mutes every time I get a notification about an email, SMS, etc.
The only solution is to disable sound notifications, which I've done. I can easily live with that, but I shouldn't have to.
One thing the ACS team might consider is adding an option to disable sound notifications when certain apps are running, like media apps playing music or video.

I think for most, if you just root the phone, disable the DRM, and run a program like Setcpu it will make a dramatic difference. It did for me. I just set SetCPU to throttle down when the screen is off.

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One thing the ACS team might consider is adding an option to disable sound notifications when certain apps are running, like media apps playing music or video.
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We'll have a look at it, thanks for the suggestion!

Can any one confirm if this is good battery life?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

mikel719 said:
Can any one confirm if this is good battery life?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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can u tell us approximately how long ur display was on since it does say 72%..

My Nexus battery issues have FINALLY been solved

I've been one of those that have ALWAYS had terrible battery life with my Nexus. Even using SetCPU and Juicedefender, it would drain horribly, even while it was asleep. I've had three different stock HTC batteries and also used the Seido 1600 mAh, none of which made any difference.
I finally decided to try an extended battery, if for no other reason than to simply get a little more juice so maybe my battery would last longer than 6-9 hours. I figured I could always return it anyway. The only way I have ever gotten 12 hours out of a battery is to not use the device hardly at all. I went with the Mugen 3200 mAh extended battery because the Seido 3200 mAh has a battery door that does not seal the device so dust can get in. I might have tried Amzer but I didn't know they existed until after I bought the Mugen. All I know is that I am freaking THRILLED. Right now, I am sitting at 82% and I have been unplugged for 7 hours and 55 minutes!! I'm still only on my third cycle!!! Yesterday I was at 55% after 18 hours of use when I finally started a new charge cycle. I'm talking normal-to slightly heavy use...I even streamed two episodes of Seinfeld from TBS.com.
I'm posting this for those that are at their wit's end over battery life on their Nexus One. I swear I always thought the Nexus One was defective when it came to battery life. Now I know I have always had crappy batteries.
This is in no way an advertisement for Mugen..I have not been paid or given a discount, or been asked to post a glowing review...I'm just so happy about the Mugen working beyond my expectations. On top of this: I managed to break one of the pegs on the extended battery door they sent which makes it a little loose. I contacted them and before they even replied they started shipping me a new one at no charge!
Anyway, if you are having the same issues as I have been I would suggest a 3200 MAH extended battery. Either Mugen or you can try Amzer. I personally would not get the Seido based on their battery door not being sealed with the potential to let dust in, and the fact that my experience with their 1600 mAh battery was so bad. I'll personally always go with Mugen from here on out based on performance + customer service. If something goes wrong I already know they will take care of it one way or another.
Remember the drawbacks tho: slightly larger profile due to larger size battery and door, cases will not fit device any longer, and it will not fit in car dock any longer. In my case I have put a stock battery and original OEM battery cover in my car so if I want to use the car dock I can just switch batteries and back covers.
Anyway I hope this helps someone find peace with battery life. It's been driving me up the wall for almost a freaking year now. I never dreamed I could get this kind of battery life out of my Nexus One. So nice to be able to stop checking battery status all the time.

how much thicker is it?? can ya post a pic?

pics or it didnt happen.
or as they say on 4chan "tits or gtfo"

Okay here they are guys, I have two Nexus Ones so I used one of the to take the pics, unfortunately I cannot do a side by side of the two Nexus Ones because I need one to take the pics as I do not have any other camera:
first a comparison of the Mugen 3200 and the HTC stock:
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now the Nexus with stock cover:
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mugen and stock on top of one another:
And finally, the broken peg on the extended door which I broke and Mugen are replacing for free(it's the peg on the top):

sorry the pics are so big I don't usually do this but I suppose it might help that they are big. If you want more info or pics just ask. hope this helps. Tomorrow I will post a pic showing how long the device has been unplugged with the remaining battery percentage in the status bar at the same time to prove my claims. I cannot do it now since I pulled the Mugen to take the pics. I should have done that pic first, then pulled the Mugen.
I just want folks who are in my same position to know there IS a solution, albeit with drawbacks such as not being able to use a case. I have to admit tho: I don't miss any of my cases. The Nexus with this extended back feels great in my hand. The only real drawback for me is the risk of dropping it without the case to protect it. I'm just being more careful and FINALLY enjoying great battery life.
One more thing: this is all done with display brightness at 100% 24-7. I do not like using any other brightness setting so if you choose to use an energy saving brightness setting, your results should be even better. I do however still use setCPU to downclock to 245 while screen is off, and juicedefender with various settings.

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One more thing: this is all done with display brightness at 100% 24-7.
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...What?
Maybe I'm the only one this has ever happened to, but whenever I check my battery usage statistics in the default Settings app, Display is listed as the absolute biggest battery hog, by a ratio of at least 2:1 compared to the next highest component on the list. I'm talking like a consistent 60% or more of my battery drain is attributed to the display, and this is even when I have my display set to automatic brightness 24-7. Even if I overclock my CPU to 1152mhz, turn on Bluetooth and GPS, and play games until my battery is almost dead, the display still racks up the highest amount of battery drain.
I hate to dismiss your claims as unscientific, but did you ever think to check your battery usage statistics? Did you ever figure that maybe you could be killing your battery life by leaving the screen on max brightness?
If I leave my phone on automatic brightness, I get a good 15 hours of battery life with moderate usage throughout the day. If I put it on max brightness, I go down to about 6 hours of battery life. Weird, huh?

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...What?
Maybe I'm the only one this has ever happened to, but whenever I check my battery usage statistics in the default Settings app, Display is listed as the absolute biggest battery hog, by a ratio of at least 2:1 compared to the next highest component on the list. I'm talking like a consistent 60% or more of my battery drain is attributed to the display, and this is even when I have my display set to automatic brightness 24-7. Even if I overclock my CPU to 1152mhz, turn on Bluetooth and GPS, and play games until my battery is almost dead, the display still racks up the highest amount of battery drain.
I hate to dismiss your claims as unscientific, but did you ever think to check your battery usage statistics? Did you ever figure that maybe you could be killing your battery life by leaving the screen on max brightness?
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Uh, yeah, no kidding the display brightness kills battery...but I do not like turning down the brightness at all, it hides that beautiful display. Besides don't you think that over the course of a YEAR I tried turning down the brightness?? Sure it saved SOME battery, but not enough to matter...maybe two hours extra which is not even close to being enough for me to justify turning it down. I have two Nexus Ones and have tried the turning down the brightness trick on both and the battery savings is minimal. No-matter how much I turn down the brightness, the display is ALWAYS listed as the biggest battery hog(unless I use the phone for calls a BUNCH that day)
and I never claimed any of this was scientific. Try a 3200 mAh battery or don't, I don't care...I'm just posting my results. To me getting 18 hours out of a battery and not even being at 50% yet is a huge difference...far better than turning down the brightness.
But again these are my results and I cannot PROMISE anyone else will see the same thing. Can't hurt to try and just return it if it doesn't work out. God knows I tried everything else over the course of a year.
If you want to fault me, I guess I shouldn't have said "there IS" a solution since I cannot promise this result for everyone or anyone but myself.

well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.

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well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
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Because i'm getting FAR better than double battery life. If I had gone from 9-12>>>>>18-24, I wouldn't have even made this post. But I have gone from 9-12(oftentimes 6-9 with heavy Flash use)>>>>>>>over 40 hours with normal to heavy use, even streaming Flash episodes and movies.
This is not for the normal person with pretty good Nexus battery life: this post was/is for people like me who have been frustrated by people posting that they get all kinds of great battery life from their Nexus but are never able to get it themselves. I finally got it for myself.
hell I saw a video review by some kid of this Mugen battery and he said he thought it was great but was giving it away because he already gets great battery life on his Nexus ....that pissed me off right there. I was like what the hell???
here it is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzSm2fBOBFQ
so yeah I'm excited to finally have great battery life myself and thought I would pass it along as a possible solution for others

Old MuckenMire said:
Uh, yeah, no kidding the display brightness kills battery...but I do not like turning down the brightness at all, it hides that beautiful display. Besides don't you think that over the course of a YEAR I tried turning down the brightness?? Sure it saved SOME battery, but not enough to matter...maybe two hours extra which is not even close to being enough for me to justify turning it down. I have two Nexus Ones and have tried the turning down the brightness trick on both and the battery savings is minimal. No-matter how much I turn down the brightness, the display is ALWAYS listed as the biggest battery hog(unless I use the phone for calls a BUNCH that day)
and I never claimed any of this was scientific. Try a 3200 mAh battery or don't, I don't care...I'm just posting my results. To me getting 18 hours out of a battery and not even being at 50% yet is a huge difference...far better than turning down the brightness.
But again these are my results and I cannot PROMISE anyone else will see the same thing. Can't hurt to try and just return it if it doesn't work out. God knows I tried everything else over the course of a year.
If you want to fault me, I guess I shouldn't have said "there IS" a solution since I cannot promise this result for everyone or anyone but myself.
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Your original problem wasn't that your stock battery was bad, it was that you kept your screen brightness too high to be suitable for daily usage. Proposing that the only working solution for yourself was to buy an extended battery is very misleading, because really all you had to do was turn down the display brightness, and make sure to turn off unnecessary services like GPS, Bluetooth, etc.
Furthermore, your solution, which is to outfit the Nexus One with the Mugen extended battery, costs $80, while it costs absolutely nothing to simply press a button and save your battery by turning things off and dimming the screen.
It's fine if you want to buy an extended battery so you can blast your display, but it's not the only solution, and is possibly the worst in terms of cost-effectiveness. Anybody at their wit's end about their battery life should try everything else first, and only then when they are completely dissatisfied with the way the screen looks, the lack of available services, or the lack of speed in processing, should they consider purchasing an extra battery.

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Your original problem wasn't that your stock battery was bad, it was that you kept your screen brightness too high to be suitable for daily usage. Proposing that the only working solution for yourself was to buy an extended battery is very misleading, because really all you had to do was turn down the display brightness, and make sure to turn off unnecessary services like GPS, Bluetooth, etc.
Furthermore, your solution, which is to outfit the Nexus One with the Mugen extended battery, costs $80, while it costs absolutely nothing to simply press a button and save your battery by turning things off and dimming the screen.
It's fine if you want to buy an extended battery so you can blast your display, but it's not the only solution, and is possibly the worst in terms of cost-effectiveness. Anybody at their wit's end about their battery life should try everything else first, and only then when they are completely dissatisfied with the way the screen looks, the lack of available services, or the lack of speed in processing, should they consider purchasing an extra battery.
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dude I already told you that turning brightness all the way down only netted me about two hours more battery life using stock battery. And thanks for quoting my post about being at "wit's end"...by definition if you are at your wit's end you have already tried everything else.
is this the best you can do or are you just argumentative tonight??
I fully stand by everything I have written
and for the record, turning off GPS, turning down brightness, turning off bluetooth, etc.., is not a REAL solution, unless you consider crippling your device to keep it powered a solution, which apparently you do.
Maybe I should just turn the whole device off.... then I'll get weeks and weeks of battery life.

Thanks for taking the time to post pics. I too use my display at 100% bright and love the effect. I have a spare battery i use and a charging dock ( not oem ) and i get by doing it that way and can make it abotu 12 hours before i have to reload the other battery ( stock battery )
I had a mugen on my g1 and it was an awesome addon. However, the otterbox defender im using now wont fit a modded case, so this was the best solution for me.
i think we all are great to find solutions. Even if different ones. One thing i did find with the "fat phone" was that it felt better in my large hands and was more comfortable to type on.
Make sure to post a follow up to this with final thoughts on the battery . and thanks again for tits

android01 said:
Thanks for taking the time to post pics. I too use my display at 100% bright and love the effect. I have a spare battery i use and a charging dock ( not oem ) and i get by doing it that way and can make it abotu 12 hours before i have to reload the other battery ( stock battery )
I had a mugen on my g1 and it was an awesome addon. However, the otterbox defender im using now wont fit a modded case, so this was the best solution for me.
i think we all are great to find solutions. Even if different ones. One thing i did find with the "fat phone" was that it felt better in my large hands and was more comfortable to type on.
Make sure to post a follow up to this with final thoughts on the battery . and thanks again for tits
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No problem man, and I agree with you about us each finding our own solution. After I get done cycling it two more times(per instructions) I will post final results. I have to admit I do fear it losing capacity...almost like I can't believe these results will be maintained. My worst fear is that in a couple weeks things will start going downhill again. If it does go downhill later I will report that, too.

Good to know. When I see these threads I wonder what I'm missing with my phone, cause I get 2-3 days with my battery. I must be missing out on something cool.

I can get that with mobile data turned off, but when it's contatly syncing 3 email accounts, facebook, twitter, news, weather etc over 3G, I kind of expect it to take a hit.

Mokurex said:
well the battery is double the capacity of the stock one, why would you be surprised that you get so much battery life? I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
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Except it's not.. All of these third party extended batteries are 75-80% of their stated capacity. Therefore his battery is at best 83% larger.
http://batteryboss.org/ says that Mugen 3200 are 75% of their rated capacity, therefore more like 71% more capacity than the stock battery.
Old MuckenMire said:
Because i'm getting FAR better than double battery life. If I had gone from 9-12>>>>>18-24, I wouldn't have even made this post. But I have gone from 9-12(oftentimes 6-9 with heavy Flash use)>>>>>>>over 40 hours with normal to heavy use, even streaming Flash episodes and movies.
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To me this sounds like your stock battery is defective.. You ever tried replacing it? Try this, I bookmarked it a few days ago just in case..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9517689#post9517689

I would be really interested to hear at what percentage your phone would shut down when this battery was empty.

wow nice i'd buy a mugen battery only if they didn't lie on the specs blatantly.

When was the last time that you cycled your stock HTC battery?

khaytsus said:
To me this sounds like your stock battery is defective.. You ever tried replacing it? Try this, I bookmarked it a few days ago just in case..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9517689#post9517689
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Yes I've replaced my stock battery with two others: stock HTC batteries and a Seido 1600mAh extended battery, all with the same results(bad battery life). I just bought them tho and didn't bother with warranty replacement. Looking back I guess I should have. Anyway I DO think it's possible they are all defective due to my having repeatedly run them down to 0% at times. The Mugen came with a warning to never ever run the battery down to zero percent. I have also read here and at other sites that running them all the way down is bad for them. I'm no battery expert so I cannot say for sure, but you make a valid point.
pwig said:
I would be really interested to hear at what percentage your phone would shut down when this battery was empty.
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My stock batteries would sometimes shut down the Nexus even tho it still showed 15% of power left: I would resolve this by wiping batter stats in recovery. Yes this is a concern I have but I cannot test it as I am not willing to drain this Mugen below 20%. Right now the battery has been off charge for 21 and a half hours and I am at 59% battery life left. When I am done cycling this battery I will hopefully never have to deal with seeing that battery get to even close to 15%, 20%, etc.. because I will be going to bed and putting it on charge long before then. Also, I do not want to risk draining this battery 100% as Mugen warns not to do that. They are very explicit about this.
Rusty! said:
I can get that with mobile data turned off, but when it's contatly syncing 3 email accounts, facebook, twitter, news, weather etc over 3G, I kind of expect it to take a hit.
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I must also add that I do not use Facebook or Twitter(I use launcherPro Twitter widget but sync it manually) I removed the official apps via Titanium. Thought I should mention this since you reminded me with your post. This can also contribute to my good battery life, although it never did much good with the stock batteries, but again maybe they are defective.
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wow nice i'd buy a mugen battery only if they didn't lie on the specs blatantly.
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i've read the same here at XDA and at other sites and it's a valid concern worth mentioning. For me it doesn't matter what they rate the battery at as I'm experiencing fantastic results, but that does not mean Mugen does not fudge numbers. So again a valid concern. My advice is to try it and return it if you do not get satisfactory results. If you get horrible battery life, my opinion is that it's worth a try.
Paul22000 said:
When was the last time that you cycled your stock HTC battery?
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hey Paul, yes I cycled the stock and Seido as recently as last week. I've tried every trick you find in a search here at XDA or Google. I even tried that trick where you drain the battery repeatedly to reset the battery meter, then charge it back. Also tried the trick of power to 100%, letting it drop to 99%, then turning off and placing back on charge. Light turns amber again and charges for another 30 minutes or so. All this did was make it stick at 100% for some extra time(usually an hour) then it would start dropping faster than normal tho.
Just for the record guys: I understand the skepticism. I was always skeptical of battery power claims. I suppose I wouldn't believe me either if I were just reading my posts and not experiencing this.
Again: I have been off power since 2pm yesterday and I am at this moment at 58% battery power left. I did sleep for six hours and didn't use the device for that period, but still, for me, this is incredible.
EDIT: one other thing I forgot to mention I do: I am ALWAYS checking and making sure my Nexus is sleeping properly via Spare Parts. I have had apps that cause my device to not sleep properly and that hurts battery life. In fact, just yesterday I caught the latest WeatherBug Elite update causing my Nexus not to sleep for the second time since they started recently updating it. I have now returned to a previous version I backed up and am having no sleeping issues at this time. If you are having poor battery life it is something to check and keep an eye on.