Better Battery Life with WiFi On - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

For some reason no matter what build, radio or rom I use BatteryMinder tells me that I will get better life with wifi on vs wifi being off. (check jpegs in attachment)
If i turn mobile data off too I get better battery life as well.
Why is the Mobile network killing my battery?

I would guess this has something to do with 3G that gets disabled on WIFI start

Yea I figured that how do I fix it though?

I stop using batteryminder because the time fluctuation was killing me! one minute it would show 1 day of battery left after unplugin, and 5 minutes later would show 15 hrs left, but only 2% had dropped in the battery, I guess it reads everything that's running, and takes it into consideration to tell you what time you have left. I get like 3 to 5mA at idle so I don't need it anymore to tell me how much battery I have left, I get a full day of battery.

roloracer said:
I stop using batteryminder because the time fluctuation was killing me! one minute it would show 1 day of battery left after unplugin, and 5 minutes later would show 15 hrs left, but only 2% had dropped in the battery, I guess it reads everything that's running, and takes it into consideration to tell you what time you have left. I get like 3 to 5mA at idle so I don't need it anymore to tell me how much battery I have left, I get a full day of battery.
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how do you get a full day of battery please?
can you tell me pleasE?
what combination of RADIO+WM ROM+ANDROID ROM yoou are using man??
thanks

jlavin12 said:
For some reason no matter what build, radio or rom I use BatteryMinder tells me that I will get better life with wifi on vs wifi being off. (check jpegs in attachment)
If i turn mobile data off too I get better battery life as well.
Why is the Mobile network killing my battery?
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This is a known fact, the wifi radio uses alot less power transmitting data than the 3G radio. I have about 20 Wifi access points stored in my phone so that it connects to them automatically like Home, work, church, parents house, friends house, that way the only time I'm actually using cell data is when I'm in the car. Saves the battery a ton.
If you want to use 3G all the time, but save battery, turn off always on data in the settings and set it to sync on an interval instead.

renehd2 said:
how do you get a full day of battery please?
can you tell me pleasE?
what combination of RADIO+WM ROM+ANDROID ROM yoou are using man??
thanks
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sure! no problem. My phone is leo 1024/TMO htc hd2 US
hard spl2
radio: 2.15.50.14
Windows Rom: CR192 Desire HD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791303
Android build: eVo Black&Blue Remix:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631
EBL dual bootloader:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
My most important android apps are:
advanced task killer: kills background apps on the fly/1 touch kill widget
current widget: monitors and shows battery drainage
cputuner: sets up profiles to save battery
setcpu. you make profiles to drop the cpu speed to save battery, like when screen is off.
you can get setcpu for free here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419&highlight=setcpu
Use this to setup setcpu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734886
You also want to disable background data in accounts and sync when not needed.
Hit me up if you have any more questions.

Odd, when I enable WiFi and set it to never sleep (so it keeps WiFi on when screen off instead of reverting to data), I idle at 10 times higher mA than with WiFi off. When actively using the connection (browsing, etc) it does seem less energy consuming than data, though.

R3dox said:
Odd, when I enable WiFi and set it to never sleep (so it keeps WiFi on when screen off instead of reverting to data), I idle at 10 times higher mA than with WiFi off. When actively using the connection (browsing, etc) it does seem less energy consuming than data, though.
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Same here. Idle goes up to 70mA with no sleep.
I set it to "never when plugged in" and it seems to work fine.

I'm in desperate need of a combo so I'm trying yours as we speak

roloracer said:
sure! no problem. My phone is leo 1024/TMO htc hd2 US
hard spl2
radio: 2.15.50.14
Windows Rom: CR192 Desire HD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791303
Android build: eVo Black&Blue Remix:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631
EBL dual bootloader:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
My most important android apps are:
advanced task killer: kills background apps on the fly/1 touch kill widget
current widget: monitors and shows battery drainage
cputuner: sets up profiles to save battery
setcpu. you make profiles to drop the cpu speed to save battery, like when screen is off.
you can get setcpu for free here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419&highlight=setcpu
Use this to setup setcpu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734886
You also want to disable background data in accounts and sync when not needed.
Hit me up if you have any more questions.
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This is all excellent advice. Cheers roloracer! I use similar settings and software for the most part with Core Droid HD v.02 by Sergio76 right now, and the standby drain with WiFi and GPS on, auto background data sync off, sits much of the time at 7 mAh. This is without using SetCPU. Moreover, with WiFi and GPS off, the standby drain drops down to about 5 mAh on average. This is about the same as I get using EVO Black & Blue Remix v.03A with everything off as well. That said, both of the above mentioned builds are incredible, IMHO, and both include the hastarin r8.5.1 Kernel.
Best to all,
R

If you are in an area with spotty coverage, and constantly switch between 2g, 3g, H, etc... then it supposedly runs your batt down a lot more than in steady coverage.

roloracer said:
sure! no problem. My phone is leo 1024/TMO htc hd2 US
hard spl2
radio: 2.15.50.14
Windows Rom: CR192 Desire HD http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791303
Android build: eVo Black&Blue Remix:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847631
EBL dual bootloader:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
My most important android apps are:
advanced task killer: kills background apps on the fly/1 touch kill widget
current widget: monitors and shows battery drainage
cputuner: sets up profiles to save battery
setcpu. you make profiles to drop the cpu speed to save battery, like when screen is off.
you can get setcpu for free here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419&highlight=setcpu
Use this to setup setcpu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734886
You also want to disable background data in accounts and sync when not needed.
Hit me up if you have any more questions.
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Thanks man I am sure that will help me..
How much mAh do you have when you use your phone and how much
When It's in standby??
I got 3-6 mAh in Standby and 110-400 when using the phone (500mah when using the camera)
With this info my phone only last around 10-13 hrs
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

renehd2 said:
Thanks man I am sure that will help me..
How much mAh do you have when you use your phone and how much
When It's in standby??
I got 3-6 mAh in Standby and 110-400 when using the phone (500mah when using the camera)
With this info my phone only last around 10-13 hrs
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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10 to 13 hours of heavy usage is not bad, light use is a different story, even on windows mobile with heavy usage you can see about the same 10 to 13 hrs of battery, My phone averages about the same as you, at idle with the screen off is about 3 to 7mA , with the screen on but nothing extra running about 120mA, and with stuff in the background about 250mA, or with the camera is about 400 to 500mA. The key is to always check advanced task killer, kill all before turning off the screen, I use my phone lightly to medium during my work hours, I text a few times, facebook a few times, some phone calls, but during all this time I keep my background sync data off, I only turn it on if I have to go into the market, and I turn it back off after I finish in the market, then when I get off work, like 13 hrs after I unplugged from charger, I usually still have about 50% to 60% battery, I flip on the background data and go full blast on it, til the end of the day.

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Is it my battery ONLY? Lasts barely a day

as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
leobox1 said:
as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
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Hey Leobox,
There could be a plenty of factors involved:
1. Constant use of GPRS to update weather.
2. Some SD cards use up the battery.
3. Make sure that your internet connection is not on generally
4. Finally, use BSB tweaks for power management.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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as mentioned in my previous post.. the battery of HD2 seems to be ok.. a fren who is a power user has it.. generally this is what he does:
Full charge in the morning
Day use:
Approx 90-100 mins of call
15-20 mins of browsin
30 odd mins of music play
150 odd daily messages
15-20 mins of push mail
from 100% at about 8AM in the morning to about 25% in the evening at about 11PM.
I think thats pretty good
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
leobox1 said:
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
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Thats the culprit
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
with regard to data connection. do we have to manually turn it off in the settings page or is there a way to make it turn itself off when its idle.
what ROM are you on?
I was originally on 1.48 ROM and had pretty bad battery drain problems too.
Most i got was about 1 day on average usage (couple calls and texts with browsing and slight GPS)
But i upgraded to 1.61 and i can honestly get 2-3 days now, no joke!
On hard usage about 1.5 days, but its still much better than before.
So if u want u can try upgrading to 1.61 and see how that works out for you
After struggling with the battery life for last 10 days I figured the real culprit to be the SD card. from day 1 I had 4GB SD card and the response was always slow while browsing the storage card or using Music and Photo tabs in SENSE.
I replaced the SD card yesterday night with original 2 GB card. I had 54 percent yesterday night and after 16 Hours I am still at 33 percent. (even with 25 mins call and some use of phone).
Seems the problem is resolved. Hope this helps to all who have battery problem.
leobox1 said:
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
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You are correct- a data connection turned on but not exchanging data uses minimal power as it's simply part of the GSM/3G service. However, if it is on, then some programs can use the connection for active data transfer which will use some power.
If you stick with GSM, rather than 3G, the battery hit is even less. Most battery usage when 3G is on results from the hunting between protocols when the 3G signal level is poor, though a good 3G connection uses less power than a stable GSM connection.
yes been thinking about updating the ROM. im on the o2 1.43 rom.
I still dont get the data connection though. even if i manually turn it off, something turns it back on i pressume its Twitter or weather. but why does it not disconnect itself afterwards?
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
I'm using 1.48 ROM. It only lasts about a day .
waxfresh said:
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
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I also have a Omina II, and whilst I appreciate it has a larger capacity battery and only 800mhz processor, I could listen to the fm radio for an hour and the battery would drop 1% Max. The omina does throttle down the processor for less demanding apps.
I had problem with G-Alarm. When in standby the HD2 use only 4-5mA in GSM/GPRS (no 3G) but when opening and closing G-Alarm, the HD2 was using in standby 80mA average.
I found that overnight it was discharging my battery around 40% (from 89% to 45% in 7hours). Then after disinstalling it I come back to normal discharge rate of around 4% overnight.
I think that G-Alarm and maybe some other softwares are not fully compatibles with the HD2 and after you open it (and close it with task manager, so not still open in background) there is a bug that let the HD2 not fully in standby, also if the screen stay off. In this situation the processor is still active and drain the battery faster. The only way to recover from this, is with softreset.
Perhaps apart from network usage / 3G / wifi / microSD etc. there are some programs developed for previous WM devices that are not 100% compatibles with HD2 and don't fully put on standby the device after you used it (also if closed with task manager) draining faster the battery.
Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
ToddeSwe said:
Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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I tried the 2.3 version. When I was testing it, when closing it, it was not dispaying on task manager also for me, but after that the battery was draining quicker during standby. After I disinstalled it, the draining of battery during standby comeback to normal (4-5mA).
I use battery log to check battery draining.
It's a very powerful smartphone folks, my battery barely lasts a day either. I have to charge my HD2 every 20 hours-or-so. Stop comparing the battery drain on this handset to an old phone you just used for texting and making calls! Every smartphone I've owned drained the battery within a day if I actually used it for more than calls and texting. If you turn the data connection off and turn the 3G to GSM, you will experience much longer battery life....but then you won't be using the phone for anything much will you?

Battery issue - new question

I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?
Yes, but it doesn't make a very large difference. If you're worried about constantly roaming, take a look at android, which let's you turn off Amsterdam on 3G.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
naz78 said:
I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?
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Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.
j4mm3r said:
Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.
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If he doesn't want to download spare parts, he could just dial *#*#4636#*#* (did I get that right?) in his dialer to get to the same menus.
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Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much
I'm on Fido as well, though I don't see a roaming icon anywhere.
Are you sure you're roaming?
glitchexe said:
I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much
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2.6%/hr with actual use (not sleeping overnight) is not bad at all. a 4inch screen, 3g connected all the time smartphone will not get great battery life if you actually use it. many people talk about how they get a couple of days or more on a single charge but there is no possible way for this to happen unless you are barely touching your phone. the best i can hope for is a full days use as i use my phone all day and evening.
sometimes an app sits in the background and uses lots of juice, so if you want to make sure that is not happening you might want to do a hard reset and not install any apps for a day and see how battery life it. you can add back apps slowly so that you will be able to tell if one is causing your phone to use too much juice.
the other things you can try is not to use widgets that auto update all the time or try locking your phone to 2g for the day, turning screen brightness down to the lowest level when possible. stuff like that will help. since i updated to the r2 generic rom my battery life has been good enough. i could always use more, but i use my phone too much to expect more.
Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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glitchexe said:
Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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It drives me nuts too but the reality is that we all use our phones differently so while some people are happy getting two days of use by barely using their phone I just can't do that. I rely on my phone for too many different things, so if I can get through one day I am fine. It was a shock for me initially as I was using a blackberry 9700 and it had a very small screen and long battery life
vatis24 said:
Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
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I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%
I've been switching options on and off for the last few weeks that I have x10 and the conclusion is => turn of APN when you don't use it and the battery last for 3 days. Only problem I can think of is mail push but you can always check mail every 30min. There is this "APN on/off" widget that makes switching APN on and off pretty easy so there shouldn't be too much problems.
Doesnt make a difference here.. wifi and 3g cane my battery!!
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naz78 said:
I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%
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Update:
I removed JuiceDefender, and I installed advanced task killer, and APN on/off widget and the battery life is much better now. I turn data off when I'm not using the phone and I kill tasks about 3-4 times a day. The screen is dimmed to 15%.
As per Android system info:
Up time: 1 days, 3 hours, 1 minutes, 59 seconds
Up time (without sleep): 0 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes, 8 seconds
17 % battery life left
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 40% (time on 2h 33m 58s)
Standby 29%
Phone Idle 22%
Wifi 4%
Android System 3%
Broswer 2%
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.
Switch off GPS. I read about it and how it improved batteries. Bloody true. Its great advice.
naz78 said:
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.
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Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.
My_Immortal said:
Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.
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Thanks for the info. Good to know that Android sys info is accurate, almost 5 hours of up time is amazing.

Post your average battery drain on standby

I'm wondering if my battery drain on standby is normal so I want to know yours. I see some people with 4-5 mA drain and that makes me think whether my drain is on the excessive side.
batery drain: 11-12 mA. sometimes jumps to 130-200 mA, i wonder why?
What's on: background sync, 3g.
what's off: gps, wifi, auto-sync.
auto updating apps: yahoo mail
Please follow that format if possible. Thanks.
Your battery consumption is good, you will have around 5ma too by turning off 3g data. The 130 ma thing is due to automatic update somewhere. (mails, rss, facebook etc)
Sichroteph said:
Your battery consumption is good, you will have around 5ma too by turning off 3g data. The 130 ma thing is due to automatic update somewhere. (mails, rss, facebook etc)
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the only app that updates automatically is yahoo mail, i'm sure of that. so the jumps is a mistery to me. sometimes the jump is above 200 mA.
standby battery drain: 5-7 mA.
What's on: background sync, 3g, auto-sync, gps on but no apps using it, tasker, systempanel.
what's off: wifi, bluetooth.
auto updating apps: yahoo mail
if switch to 2g, standby battery drain can goes down to 3mA
dan138zig said:
I'm wondering if my battery drain on standby is normal so I want to know yours. I see some people with 4-5 mA drain and that makes me think whether my drain is on the excessive side.
batery drain: 11-12 mA. sometimes jumps to 130-200 mA, i wonder why?
What's on: background sync, 3g.
what's off: gps, wifi, auto-sync.
auto updating apps: yahoo mail
Please follow that format if possible. Thanks.
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-mine is playing at 10-13 mA on stanby. Now it is at 133-153mA while making this post.
Whats on: background sync, 2g
Whats off: gps, wifi, auto sync
Auto update app: yahoomail, yahoo messenger, gochat.
I have jumps sometimes but not as high as that.
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I know this is noob-ish, although I consider myself somewhat seasoned, but what app (or other method) are you using to measure battery drain? I'm running shubcraft 2.0 over ChuckyROM and in standby all day won't last more than 11-12 hours. Ouch.
Thanks in advance.
cocopete5243 said:
I know this is noob-ish, although I consider myself somewhat seasoned, but what app (or other method) are you using to measure battery drain. I'm running shubcraft 2.0 over ChuckyROM and in standby all day won't last more than 11-12 hours. Ouch.
Thanks in advance.
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CurrentWidget, free in the market.
Thanks so much!
My drain is mostly about 5mA. Sometime it is between 5-9mA.
I have nothing that sync automatically, but I have those jumps too. Mostly they're between 150-200mA. How often do they appear in your phones?
So, know whats on:
Data, GPS on but no apps using it, Systempanel, Facebook, Whatsapp
What's off:
WiFi (but the same standby if I'm using WiFi instead of 3G), bluetooth
In airplane mode it's only 2mA, sometimes 3
My drain averages about 5-7mA with the combo in my sig
3G on all the time (not a single data drop on over 3 days as well, best rom I've used), auto sync on for facebook and google contacts etc every 20 mins.
apeatan said:
-mine is playing at 10-13 mA on stanby. Now it is at 133-153mA while making this post.
Whats on: background sync, 2g
Whats off: gps, wifi, auto sync
Auto update app: yahoomail, yahoo messenger, gochat.
I have jumps sometimes but not as high as that.
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wow what else do you do? my phone jumps form around 134- 334 something with almost everything off
Mine is usually in 65-70ma range. There really is something wrong with it.
Are there any places to check for battery drain? I tried a blank data.img, which did not help. (I'm on HyperDroid 1.7).
4-8 ma in standby. i guess this is a good value!
wm rom: goatrip android 1.0
android build: mdj froyo revolution 2.3 with S7 test 3 kernel
radio rom: 2.12
my drain is between 2 and 5 mA in standby condition with background sync, 3g, data on. According with autoupdate scheme it's jumping to 135 mA
My configuration is as follow:
WinMo rom: VBNDroid-Reloaded2Alt-24634-Oct13
Radio: Radio_2_15_50_14
Android Kernel: hastarin 8.5
Android rom: [Everyday Builds][latest linux_on_wince_htc][PPP] CM6.1+
SetCpu: 245-1190MHz, Interactive governor plus screen off profile 245/245MHz powersave
My cpu is also undervolted: Hastarin CONFIG_HTCLEO_UNDERVOLT_800
My quadrant score is around 2000
No problem at the moment with this configuration. I have been running this for 2 days
mbrown3460 said:
wow what else do you do? my phone jumps form around 134- 334 something with almost everything off
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- am, nothing. Just those and some of the usual apps current widget list as running in the background. I just use set cpu that's it.
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Build - MCCM 3.3
Kernel - Hastarin 8.5
Radio - 2.10.50.26
WM - Cleanex OzRom
Between 4 and 5 mA in standby which equates to a loss of around 1% an hour. And with what I would call normal phone use I usually have around 30% charge left after a 16-17 hour day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. I have stayed with an older radio because I have never had any issues so have seen little point in updating it.
I am more than happy with my battery life.
Pagnell said:
Build - MCCM 3.3
Kernel - Hastarin 8.5
Radio - 2.10.50.26
WM - Cleanex OzRom
Between 4 and 5 mA in standby which equates to a loss of around 1% an hour. And with what I would call normal phone use I usually have around 30% charge left after a 16-17 hour day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. I have stayed with an older radio because I have never had any issues so have seen little point in updating it.
I am more than happy with my battery life.
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It's good that you didn't change. I think 2.10 is very stable. I'm using 2.14 and I think the standby was better with the older ones. But how much do you use your phone during the day? Mine is at 40% after 12 hours of moderate use. I think this should go better
JanssoN said:
It's good that you didn't change. I think 2.10 is very stable. I'm using 2.14 and I think the standby was better with the older ones. But how much do you use your phone during the day? Mine is at 40% after 12 hours of moderate use. I think this should go better
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What I would call a normal usage. On average around 5 phone calls totalling around 20-25 minutes, some wi-fi and data usage totalling around 30 minutes, some game playing and a lot of display usage as I read books using FBReader while commuting.
This is all guess work though if I'm honest, I have never measured exactly what I do with my phone each day because as long as I get through the day without it giving me low battery errors I'm happy. I would say I have been on 40% after 12 hours use quite a few times, that doesn't seem unusual to me.
My average battery drain is 3ma to 5ma
With wi-fi on 7ma
I'm seeing spikes upto 400 ma.
I assume this is because I am running the stock WM ROM?
I'm new to hd2 (from HTC legend).
Will using a custom WM ROM like chuckydroid get my battery running sweet ?
Gotta say hd2 is a dream !

Juice Defender and Battery enhancing applications

Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
mjehan said:
Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
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Is there any battery life boosting app that works?
I don't believe all the hype.. It runs in the background, so the apps itself is a battery drainer..
Sorry, but for me, lowering brightness, turning off 3g and mobile network when unused and also turning off haptic feedback helps increasing my battery's charge..
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
Tried it once but use Green Power Battery Saver now, much prefer the easier UI
If rooted, along with LeeDrOiD 1.5.0 my battery life is amazing
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Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I turn off wifi when I'm not using it, but 3g is too much hassle and I suppose I do struggle to get much more than 24 hours out of a single charge but gushing battery?
bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I think the phone does this without the help of additional apps. I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync. I did nothing special to the phone and I have no "battery saving" app. Does it, practically anyway, get any better?
Cheers from my DHD.
junta_mpb said:
I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync.
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You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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Lol
I'm trying green power at the mo.
What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I don't see the need to use stuff like this. I unplugged mine this morning and I still have 85% left with some moderate use with Facebook on push, weather and e-mail on 1 hour and others on once a day or update when opened.
I should point out I am using the Cingular radio and Android Revolution HD 2.0.9 but even when I was on stock I didn't have a terrible drain unless I had HTC Sense syncing away to itself. That seems to be the key issue.
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What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
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Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
6:30 - 02:00
On 1min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
02:00-06:30
On 1min-Off 1h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I'm using the premium one though so there is a few extra settings. It definitely works though.
bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post that refers to the one made by another poster. The point is, I think the phone already disabled unneeded functions without the need for an app. My phone doesn't have unbelievable battery life, but it doesn't suck either.
Anyways, I think "battery saving" apps just end up using more power.
Cheers from my DHD.
I have dissconnected phone from computer on Sunday 7 pm. Started Juice defender. About three hours of reading comics, about 30 minutes phone calls, email few times a day and some internet/market (about 1/1.5 hours) and on Tuesday, 2 pm, I still have 34% battery. There was some music playing for about an hour and video clips for same time. Great result in my opinion. I think Juice defender works great. At least very good.
JD is alright, its not stellar but it does help (for me and my settings and usage). It will help a lot better if you purchase Ultimate Juice, that's when it starts to be interesting but that's the thing, you'd have to purchase it before you discover if its the best solution for you.
I don't think there's one app that will universally make our battery life better. The apps will help if you could make its functions play well with your settings and style of usage. Short of saying that if you find an app that will enhance your battery saving habits and capitalize on the opportunities that your phone can save power, then that'll be the best option for you...
JD is alright, UJ makes it a lot better...
It looks like it is better solution then buying extra bettery. Good job. I am gonna try it for some more time and if the effect will be the same I will get the UJ. Thanks.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post
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No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
bobbyelliott said:
No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
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It does. I sleep for 8 hours, I lose 8%. I think its supports the argument that the phone only uses resources when needed. Since it doesnt sync the entire time and only when its scheduled to, I dont see this is as an impossible figure.
Lets try to remember the context comments are presented in this thread.
Android Assistant 2.2
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
m7svk said:
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
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Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
mngmng said:
Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
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Original name is "Android assistant(12 features)", by Aaron, he done already few apps for improving battery life, very good app incl cache cleaner and few more extras.

Gingerbread EXTREMELY poor battery life!

I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
Did you do a factory reset ? It helped me a lot, i'm at 4 days 6 hours with 16% battery remaining.
Also check if you aren't scanning for wifi 24/7.
s32bauer said:
I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
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Have you checked what application is draining the battery?
Google
I had dreadful battery life and discovered that Latitude was polling constantly and also Google Talk.
Make sure you sign out of both and see if it makes a difference.
... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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Disable? with force close?
Right, I've disabled Tell HTC, signed out of Google Talk and made sure it doesn't sign in automatically. I've also signed out of Latitude.
The top four things listed on the battery usage are:
- Display = 34%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 13%
- Dialer = 13%
All others are pretty much under 10%.
I'd rather avoid doing a factory reset due to the amount of information and length of time it's taken me to get everything set up. However, I made the mistake of thinking that Wifi wouldn't be used if mobile network was on. My plan was that I would then connect straight away to Wifi when I was at home, and when it lost the signal it would switch to my mobile network. Well, this seems to work fine, however obviously as shown above, it's still using a fair bit of battery. I think I'll just start turned Wifi off completely until I'm going to use it.
For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
- Display = 44%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 23%
- Dialer = 23%
I use greenpower realy great app I'm running Gingerbread and I'm getting nearly 2days out of my DHD
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faugusztin said:
For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
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Cool, looks like a handy program to have!
Check out this thread about the Dialer issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069251
My battery life hasn't improved either.
With moderate to heavy use I get about 6-7 hours only. My brightness is usually set at 30%
Display - 69%
Dialer - 8%
Cell standby and others - 4% and less
Is this normal?
Could you give us some more information here ? I mean what type of system are you using, Stock, or some type of ROM ?
I'm running LeeDroid's latest ROM, 2.3.3 and have Green Power installed so data gets turned off when my screen is off.
Auto-sync is turned off too.
In regards to mail, twitter syncing I set mine to every 6 - 12 hours.
I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
This is unacceptable! I sent HTC an email to expalin this but all I got was list of ways to reduce battery life such as swich off wifi, move to 2g, switth off live wallpaper etc etc. But all of this is absolutely of no use if the battery is draining at 7% an hour with the screen off. As I mentioned before with 2.2 the wifi drainage was small approx 1% with screen off.
Can someone suggest a solution?
1)Should I contact HTC again?
2)Try a custom ROM?
I havent tried a custom rom yet as the phone has been runnning well minus poor battery but I may have to if a solution cannot be found.
eyeofthetiger said:
I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
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I noticed the same drain as well when I updated, but after a few days of testing I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
junta_mpb said:
I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
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when you say check your apps what are you using to find out whats running what.
Also how do i know what i can stop without making other things crash on me
for example. i do not use my sense account so can I shut dwn all things to do with sense that are running without risk?
I had the issue with battery life too. Just get the wifi switch on your homepage and turn off if you're not using it. Otherwise it constantly scans and leaches your battery.
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i just switched to 2.3.3 and its fine, try another rom.

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