I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?
Yes, but it doesn't make a very large difference. If you're worried about constantly roaming, take a look at android, which let's you turn off Amsterdam on 3G.
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naz78 said:
I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?
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Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.
j4mm3r said:
Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.
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If he doesn't want to download spare parts, he could just dial *#*#4636#*#* (did I get that right?) in his dialer to get to the same menus.
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Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
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I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much
I'm on Fido as well, though I don't see a roaming icon anywhere.
Are you sure you're roaming?
glitchexe said:
I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much
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2.6%/hr with actual use (not sleeping overnight) is not bad at all. a 4inch screen, 3g connected all the time smartphone will not get great battery life if you actually use it. many people talk about how they get a couple of days or more on a single charge but there is no possible way for this to happen unless you are barely touching your phone. the best i can hope for is a full days use as i use my phone all day and evening.
sometimes an app sits in the background and uses lots of juice, so if you want to make sure that is not happening you might want to do a hard reset and not install any apps for a day and see how battery life it. you can add back apps slowly so that you will be able to tell if one is causing your phone to use too much juice.
the other things you can try is not to use widgets that auto update all the time or try locking your phone to 2g for the day, turning screen brightness down to the lowest level when possible. stuff like that will help. since i updated to the r2 generic rom my battery life has been good enough. i could always use more, but i use my phone too much to expect more.
Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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glitchexe said:
Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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It drives me nuts too but the reality is that we all use our phones differently so while some people are happy getting two days of use by barely using their phone I just can't do that. I rely on my phone for too many different things, so if I can get through one day I am fine. It was a shock for me initially as I was using a blackberry 9700 and it had a very small screen and long battery life
vatis24 said:
Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
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I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%
I've been switching options on and off for the last few weeks that I have x10 and the conclusion is => turn of APN when you don't use it and the battery last for 3 days. Only problem I can think of is mail push but you can always check mail every 30min. There is this "APN on/off" widget that makes switching APN on and off pretty easy so there shouldn't be too much problems.
Doesnt make a difference here.. wifi and 3g cane my battery!!
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naz78 said:
I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%
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Update:
I removed JuiceDefender, and I installed advanced task killer, and APN on/off widget and the battery life is much better now. I turn data off when I'm not using the phone and I kill tasks about 3-4 times a day. The screen is dimmed to 15%.
As per Android system info:
Up time: 1 days, 3 hours, 1 minutes, 59 seconds
Up time (without sleep): 0 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes, 8 seconds
17 % battery life left
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 40% (time on 2h 33m 58s)
Standby 29%
Phone Idle 22%
Wifi 4%
Android System 3%
Broswer 2%
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.
Switch off GPS. I read about it and how it improved batteries. Bloody true. Its great advice.
naz78 said:
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.
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Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.
My_Immortal said:
Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.
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Thanks for the info. Good to know that Android sys info is accurate, almost 5 hours of up time is amazing.
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Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
Are you playing with the phone a lot? Like is your display always on? 4hrs still seems extream to me, I am rooted and runninng a custom rom, but even when I wasnt I never managed to get through the battery that quickly, and I use the phone a lot
Here's what I do to get good battery... I only keep backlight on like the a ****as hair..lol barely unless outside...... widgets are cool n all, but if there constantly updating thats polling your battery, live wallpapers are cool, but a battery drainer, I also keep gps, locations and bluetooth off unless using them, wifi also.. also the background applications setting uses battery but if ya want updating widgets no way around that...
Also look in seetings about phone, battery use and see what's eating your battery, I use my phone hours at a time so my display is most my battery drain which is normal, everything else is like 7 percent or less, mostly 2 or 3 percent. ....
I think thats all I do, but you may keep stuff on like widgets and that unfortunately eats battery..
I am running everything in my Sig. I have had my N1 for about 2 months now right around that. After a 14 to 16hr day with some heavy to mild usage I am still over 50%, but then again I have 3g turned off and i am only on Edge all the time since i am always around WiFi. So i would tell you 4 hours is a bit extreme but hang in there it does get better. I remember being around 25% for the 1st few weeks until it got better. Other wise do what Temperbad said that is the best way to go. Only widget i am running that updates every hour is my Weather one. Turn the screen all the way down unless it other wise needs to be up. I am sure that is what is killing your battery. Mine is always on the lowest setting until i am outside.
Sadly I'm rooted, but I will state my percentage too.
Weirdly, my display usage is only 15% on Paul's Desire ROM. Honestly I dont see how this may be - but that is what it says. My brightness is quite high too..
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
DarkDvr said:
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
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I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
PacoL250 said:
I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
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Thanks, this info I can use.
temperbad said:
Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I've read otherwise, though I don't think that Auto Brightness is the optimal battery saving setting.
Obviously it's a middle ground between max and low.
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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Wow... that's some serious battery life.
Ok, some questions..
1. screen brightness setting?
2. how long have u had that phone (battery) for? Did it improve over time?
3. Is it rooted/flashed or stock rom?
4. you got any syncing widgets running (RSS/twidroid)? Live wallpaper?
Thanks a bunch for your input!
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 13 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
ghostrida said:
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
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Sweet, thanks for the info. It seems my battery is also slowly "training" its way closer to these numbers.
DarkDvr said:
I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
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Your right... about the updating widgets and wallpaper, they do make the phone funner.. but why need gps on when not using, or bluetooth, or wifi? Just simply turn them on when using...
So much going on with this phone I can say its good pretty decent battery....
Anyone know how to make my gmail sync every hour instead of instantly?
When I got my Nexus my battery was just as poor, but after using it for a couple of weeks I'm getting about 10 hours usage with medium brightness, WiFi, and gps.
So just give it some time and it should fix it itself.
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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What battery meter do you use to tell the amount of hours left?
DarkDvr said:
Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
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Your phone or battery is defective. Call HTC for a replacement.
We all want the maximum out of our battery and the corresponding indication. Found this thread in Desire forum on calibration of the battery and can be usefull for Wildfire aswell....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Just did the full cycle myself.....will report back results.
Frank C said:
We all want the maximum out of our battery and the corresponding indication. Found this thread in Desire forum on calibration of the battery and can be usefull for Wildfire aswell....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Just did the full cycle myself.....will report back results.
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i'm doing it right now, it cant do any harm. Thanks for the post
Any updates???
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I cant see any changes
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The wildfire has a really good battery already
No need to calibrate imo. Can last 2+ days for me when I don't abuse the wifi and games.
First feedback.....no noticable difference seen.....What do seem to help is to charge you phone longer even after green light indicates that battery is full.....For me than takes longer to go from 100 to 99.
kevin2516 said:
The wildfire has a really good battery already
No need to calibrate imo. Can last 2+ days for me when I don't abuse the wifi and games.
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How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?
xc1024 said:
How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?
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I find the same thing, and have even been thinking of returning it because it can't last longer than 24hrs. I have even restored to stock and hard reset, so no apps added or anything, BT/WIFI off and the battery life still sucks.
xc1024 said:
How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?
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Yes I've tried openfire rom and wildpuzzle rom. Battery lasts as I have stated. I also use setcpu to set up profiles when phone screen is off to help it a little
Would also like to add that on the stock rom, the battery lasts long as well but custom rom is better
My phone is a stock. But as you can see, the battery life leaves a lot of room for improvement. How can I increase ir?
Not sure, but after rooting my battery life improved signigficantly, and it also charges fast than before... htc wildifire.
ok so i charged my phone to 100% and left it on my table untouched last night when i got to sleep, left it in my pocket today at uni without using wifi/games, just to check the time, is currently still at 99% with up time of 14hrs so far.
and if you want to maximise your battery life with stock rom, lower brightness, disable auto sync of accounts, disable 3g if you're not using it, try juice defender, i think that might help you guys.
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ok so i charged my phone to 100% and left it on my table untouched last night when i got to sleep, left it in my pocket today at uni without using wifi/games, just to check the time, is currently still at 99% with up time of 14hrs so far.
and if you want to maximise your battery life with stock rom, lower brightness, disable auto sync of accounts, disable 3g if you're not using it, try juice defender, i think that might help you guys.
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i tried installing juice defender,
though its showing in setting> applications>manage apps
i am unable in find its icon in apps list. is that normal with that application?
realxception said:
i tried installing juice defender,
though its showing in setting> applications>manage apps
i am unable in find its icon in apps list. is that normal with that application?
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Hmm strange, I have installed it and icon shows normally in application list.
I went through the calibration process and my battery life has increased significantly. Currently I have 5 hours and 12 minutes of uptime with occasional phone calls and some wifi usage - battery is at 99%.
I find that battery life is all about how strong ur signal is.
At home i get a full 3g signal, battery lasts about 30 hours with my syncs on all day, couple of hours of wifi and maybe 30 mins of gaming and about 30mins of phone calls.
When i'm at work and the signal fluctuates i get about 20 hours average.
When i was in a restaurant for a party recently from 7pm to midnight, there was hardly any signal and i used about 60% of the battery in 5 hours!
At the end of the day if the battery lasts for 18hours with all my stuff turned on then i won't complain as the phone does everything you need except make the tea!
I mean what's the point of turning all the smartphone stuff off? Might as well just go and buy a Nokia.
rommi0 said:
I went through the calibration process and my battery life has increased significantly. Currently I have 5 hours and 12 minutes of uptime with occasional phone calls and some wifi usage - battery is at 99%.
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Uptime now is 24 hours and 45 minutes, with a bunch of phone calls, messages and occasional wifi and data use - battery is at 63%
I'm familiar with the calibration thing n it worked well on my hero but since rooting with unrevoked u get no green light when phone is off n also need to pull battery to turn it on again.. so I don't c how I can with this irritating bug! Any solutions?
With data connection off I get bout 48hrs with just calls n txt. Otherwise with light use I get 30 ish tops
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I'm familiar with the calibration thing n it worked well on my hero but since rooting with unrevoked u get no green light when phone is off n also need to pull battery to turn it on again.. so I don't c how I can with this irritating bug! Any solutions?
With data connection off I get bout 48hrs with just calls n txt. Otherwise with light use I get 30 ish tops
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I faced the same problem, since rooting my wildfire. Can someone answer. Tks
Hello Everyone!
I made this thread hoping I can shed some light to those getting very poor battery life. I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one. If you're getting very poor battery life (even after wiping your phone or installing a clean firmware), there is definitely something wrong with your phone or your battery.
I own a i9000m bought from Wireless Wave. I've unlocked the phone and am now using it on Rogers.
My previous phone, I was draining 25% of my battery to just get through 6 hours of standby while I slept. I had juice defender on and autokiller memory optimizer. I turned off all syncing and didn't even use a live wallpaper. My phone was rooted and also had lagfix (which I soon removed). One thing I do remember doing is not charging to 100% when I first got the phone. I did accidentally let it drain to 0% cause I had to use it right away.
After exchanging for a new phone and charging it to 100% right away, I was getting the following results. I have juice defender and nothing else. I changed my band to be WCDMA only. I even have a live wallpaper on. Last night my phone idled for 9 hours and it only drained 2%! Last night going out, I had a moderate to heavy (fbook, 3g, gps, text, youtube) usage pattern on my phone and it only drained 40% after 6 hours of use.
I don't know what else to say, but I'm letting those with battery problems know that the SGS is capable of great battery life. And if all your optimizing and tweaks aren't doing it, then you may want to consider exchanging for a new phone if you still have warranty.
I have a great battery life too in my device compared too the another smartphone i used in the past and now compared to Ip4 and N8 in this devices the bat drain is much higher. So im positive surprised with
the galaxy battery performance, i only use the push email everything else is turned off, livewallpaper and so on..
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My phone came with JM7 firmware. My battery life is just excellent, not needing a recharge before a few days with my use
Running JPM here, with darkyy's raw metal ROM, my battery life went up by at least 40% - %50. I was losing 1% per 5 - 10minutes of usage, now its more upwards of half an hour of usage.
I think the phone has very good battery life if you understand what can cause battery drain and adjust it accordingly.
I am now gettining 5% drain per 24 hours on (almost) standby. This would give me about 20 days of standby which is crazy.
Here is my setup:
UK 16 Gb Galaxy S with Eclair JM6 and Voodoo lagfix
Set network to GSM (2g)
Disable internet usage (with APNDroid)
Disable WIFI, Sync Off, GPS Off (with power widgets)
Just before I go to bed, I run Advanced Task Killer and kill anything that doesn't need to be on memory (inlcuding Advanced Task Killer itself).
Using your phone WILL spend a lot of battery. Browsing the internet on 3g is a battery killer. This means that if you do something on your phone that maintains an active 3g connection, it WILL drain your battery in about 3-6 depending on your 3g coverage.
WIFI is better, but again you are looking at something between 6-12 hours of continuous usage, so make sure you only use it when you need it.
Finally, if you need to have your emails the instance they arrive, go for a blackberry because it has the only way of pushing email without maintaining a constant data connection.
I don't need this so I am extremely happy with my phone and the battery life I can get out of it.
I hope this helps.
Have my phone set for 2G with wifi always on.
Use wifi at home.
2G is enough for all normal syncs, and if I need more speed for anything else I temporarily switch to 3G for that.
This way a single charge last me well over 24h under normal usage. Don't even know exactly how much.
With the phone set to 3G, the same usage patern will eat a full charge in something like 8h.
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JPM Rom with everything except bluetooth turned on my battery lasted 3 days with low usage (skype a few times and some phone calls and a bit of wifi web-browsing.)
Much better than my wife's iPhone 4... Normally charge it every 2 days.
I am very happy with the phone, just a couple of bug fixes and I would really like it if Swype did some level of contextual checking of words to help minimise unnecessary corrections (perhaps they do already, but it is certainly not well implemented/sophisticated enough).
jonnie86 said:
I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one.
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Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
SyndicateXDA said:
Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
what i wish to have is greater control over the phone, more easily.
Some kind of powertop GUI that let you see the power usage per process.
So you could plain uninstall apps installing ****ty services consuming the battery.
Likewise i'd like *real* control over which background services are running. I mean running an auto killer wtf? Horrible design!
I just want to switch off a service and that it doesnt start again 5 min later thank you very much.
Even the task manager is quite bad. You see last started apps but you don't know which one is running right now. And if its running and backgrounded since a while and you started other apps.. it might very well not even show up in the list anymore. Horrible design again.
Saying all that because stock the phone battery is excellent, installing a couple of popular apps kills it..
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
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Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
SyndicateXDA said:
Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Baseband: I9000UGJH2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UGJH2
Kernel Version: 2.6.29 [email protected]#2
Let us know if you find out anything.
jonnie86 said:
Let us know if you find out anything.
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Sure thing. And thanks. KIES offered an update from JM1 baseband and JM2 build version. We'll see how the new ROM performs in about 3 days. Unfortunately don't have spare time to do that sooner. I suspect there's huge difference within the baseband versions.
hey guys.
i have galaxy s i9000..i also had problem of battery.my battery would hardly last 24hrs...i even switched to gsm only mode n switched off sync.but still had same prob..few days back i installed JPJPA firmware..now its wroking fine.lasts more than 35hrs...n also battery charges quickly
Is it possible that the reading on the phone is wrong? When you say you are getting 24 hours are you letting it run flat.
Alternately is it saying the battery is running low and you recharge before it goes flat?
Just wondering if the meter is simply giving incorrect information.
Been 24 hours since last recharge. Lost 6% so far. Running JP6 Froyo. Rooted. Network Data Off. During this 24 hours, just used Angry birds-30mins and ColorDict 5mins. Haven't installed any unnecessary app.
Had lost 1% on standby after 14hrs with no usage. Thats amazing. Very Happy user.
Also want to tell u guys that GPS with active Data connection and Google Maps running and display on took approx 1% of battery every 3mins.
Impossible using stock battery, this phone draws a minimum of 10% battery per hour the screen is on. Its more likely 15-20% with most peoples phone.
Your battery meter may be inaccurate, for example after flashing once my battery stayed at 100% for hours then suddenly shot down to 20%
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I use "Battery Indicator" to check my battery status.
My screen is set to turn off and lock after 30 seconds of idling. So it is quite possible to achieve the standby times listed.
Hi, how long do you have holding time of battery, when you are using wi-fi? (browsing)
Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
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Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
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Is there any battery life boosting app that works?
I don't believe all the hype.. It runs in the background, so the apps itself is a battery drainer..
Sorry, but for me, lowering brightness, turning off 3g and mobile network when unused and also turning off haptic feedback helps increasing my battery's charge..
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
Tried it once but use Green Power Battery Saver now, much prefer the easier UI
If rooted, along with LeeDrOiD 1.5.0 my battery life is amazing
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Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I turn off wifi when I'm not using it, but 3g is too much hassle and I suppose I do struggle to get much more than 24 hours out of a single charge but gushing battery?
bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I think the phone does this without the help of additional apps. I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync. I did nothing special to the phone and I have no "battery saving" app. Does it, practically anyway, get any better?
Cheers from my DHD.
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I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync.
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You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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Lol
I'm trying green power at the mo.
What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I don't see the need to use stuff like this. I unplugged mine this morning and I still have 85% left with some moderate use with Facebook on push, weather and e-mail on 1 hour and others on once a day or update when opened.
I should point out I am using the Cingular radio and Android Revolution HD 2.0.9 but even when I was on stock I didn't have a terrible drain unless I had HTC Sense syncing away to itself. That seems to be the key issue.
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What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
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Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
6:30 - 02:00
On 1min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
02:00-06:30
On 1min-Off 1h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I'm using the premium one though so there is a few extra settings. It definitely works though.
bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post that refers to the one made by another poster. The point is, I think the phone already disabled unneeded functions without the need for an app. My phone doesn't have unbelievable battery life, but it doesn't suck either.
Anyways, I think "battery saving" apps just end up using more power.
Cheers from my DHD.
I have dissconnected phone from computer on Sunday 7 pm. Started Juice defender. About three hours of reading comics, about 30 minutes phone calls, email few times a day and some internet/market (about 1/1.5 hours) and on Tuesday, 2 pm, I still have 34% battery. There was some music playing for about an hour and video clips for same time. Great result in my opinion. I think Juice defender works great. At least very good.
JD is alright, its not stellar but it does help (for me and my settings and usage). It will help a lot better if you purchase Ultimate Juice, that's when it starts to be interesting but that's the thing, you'd have to purchase it before you discover if its the best solution for you.
I don't think there's one app that will universally make our battery life better. The apps will help if you could make its functions play well with your settings and style of usage. Short of saying that if you find an app that will enhance your battery saving habits and capitalize on the opportunities that your phone can save power, then that'll be the best option for you...
JD is alright, UJ makes it a lot better...
It looks like it is better solution then buying extra bettery. Good job. I am gonna try it for some more time and if the effect will be the same I will get the UJ. Thanks.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post
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No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
bobbyelliott said:
No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
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It does. I sleep for 8 hours, I lose 8%. I think its supports the argument that the phone only uses resources when needed. Since it doesnt sync the entire time and only when its scheduled to, I dont see this is as an impossible figure.
Lets try to remember the context comments are presented in this thread.
Android Assistant 2.2
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
m7svk said:
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
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Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
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Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
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Original name is "Android assistant(12 features)", by Aaron, he done already few apps for improving battery life, very good app incl cache cleaner and few more extras.
I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
Did you do a factory reset ? It helped me a lot, i'm at 4 days 6 hours with 16% battery remaining.
Also check if you aren't scanning for wifi 24/7.
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I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
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Have you checked what application is draining the battery?
Google
I had dreadful battery life and discovered that Latitude was polling constantly and also Google Talk.
Make sure you sign out of both and see if it makes a difference.
... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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Disable? with force close?
Right, I've disabled Tell HTC, signed out of Google Talk and made sure it doesn't sign in automatically. I've also signed out of Latitude.
The top four things listed on the battery usage are:
- Display = 34%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 13%
- Dialer = 13%
All others are pretty much under 10%.
I'd rather avoid doing a factory reset due to the amount of information and length of time it's taken me to get everything set up. However, I made the mistake of thinking that Wifi wouldn't be used if mobile network was on. My plan was that I would then connect straight away to Wifi when I was at home, and when it lost the signal it would switch to my mobile network. Well, this seems to work fine, however obviously as shown above, it's still using a fair bit of battery. I think I'll just start turned Wifi off completely until I'm going to use it.
For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
- Display = 44%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 23%
- Dialer = 23%
I use greenpower realy great app I'm running Gingerbread and I'm getting nearly 2days out of my DHD
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faugusztin said:
For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
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Cool, looks like a handy program to have!
Check out this thread about the Dialer issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069251
My battery life hasn't improved either.
With moderate to heavy use I get about 6-7 hours only. My brightness is usually set at 30%
Display - 69%
Dialer - 8%
Cell standby and others - 4% and less
Is this normal?
Could you give us some more information here ? I mean what type of system are you using, Stock, or some type of ROM ?
I'm running LeeDroid's latest ROM, 2.3.3 and have Green Power installed so data gets turned off when my screen is off.
Auto-sync is turned off too.
In regards to mail, twitter syncing I set mine to every 6 - 12 hours.
I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
This is unacceptable! I sent HTC an email to expalin this but all I got was list of ways to reduce battery life such as swich off wifi, move to 2g, switth off live wallpaper etc etc. But all of this is absolutely of no use if the battery is draining at 7% an hour with the screen off. As I mentioned before with 2.2 the wifi drainage was small approx 1% with screen off.
Can someone suggest a solution?
1)Should I contact HTC again?
2)Try a custom ROM?
I havent tried a custom rom yet as the phone has been runnning well minus poor battery but I may have to if a solution cannot be found.
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I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
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I noticed the same drain as well when I updated, but after a few days of testing I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
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I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
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when you say check your apps what are you using to find out whats running what.
Also how do i know what i can stop without making other things crash on me
for example. i do not use my sense account so can I shut dwn all things to do with sense that are running without risk?
I had the issue with battery life too. Just get the wifi switch on your homepage and turn off if you're not using it. Otherwise it constantly scans and leaches your battery.
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i just switched to 2.3.3 and its fine, try another rom.