Hello Everyone!
I made this thread hoping I can shed some light to those getting very poor battery life. I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one. If you're getting very poor battery life (even after wiping your phone or installing a clean firmware), there is definitely something wrong with your phone or your battery.
I own a i9000m bought from Wireless Wave. I've unlocked the phone and am now using it on Rogers.
My previous phone, I was draining 25% of my battery to just get through 6 hours of standby while I slept. I had juice defender on and autokiller memory optimizer. I turned off all syncing and didn't even use a live wallpaper. My phone was rooted and also had lagfix (which I soon removed). One thing I do remember doing is not charging to 100% when I first got the phone. I did accidentally let it drain to 0% cause I had to use it right away.
After exchanging for a new phone and charging it to 100% right away, I was getting the following results. I have juice defender and nothing else. I changed my band to be WCDMA only. I even have a live wallpaper on. Last night my phone idled for 9 hours and it only drained 2%! Last night going out, I had a moderate to heavy (fbook, 3g, gps, text, youtube) usage pattern on my phone and it only drained 40% after 6 hours of use.
I don't know what else to say, but I'm letting those with battery problems know that the SGS is capable of great battery life. And if all your optimizing and tweaks aren't doing it, then you may want to consider exchanging for a new phone if you still have warranty.
I have a great battery life too in my device compared too the another smartphone i used in the past and now compared to Ip4 and N8 in this devices the bat drain is much higher. So im positive surprised with
the galaxy battery performance, i only use the push email everything else is turned off, livewallpaper and so on..
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My phone came with JM7 firmware. My battery life is just excellent, not needing a recharge before a few days with my use
Running JPM here, with darkyy's raw metal ROM, my battery life went up by at least 40% - %50. I was losing 1% per 5 - 10minutes of usage, now its more upwards of half an hour of usage.
I think the phone has very good battery life if you understand what can cause battery drain and adjust it accordingly.
I am now gettining 5% drain per 24 hours on (almost) standby. This would give me about 20 days of standby which is crazy.
Here is my setup:
UK 16 Gb Galaxy S with Eclair JM6 and Voodoo lagfix
Set network to GSM (2g)
Disable internet usage (with APNDroid)
Disable WIFI, Sync Off, GPS Off (with power widgets)
Just before I go to bed, I run Advanced Task Killer and kill anything that doesn't need to be on memory (inlcuding Advanced Task Killer itself).
Using your phone WILL spend a lot of battery. Browsing the internet on 3g is a battery killer. This means that if you do something on your phone that maintains an active 3g connection, it WILL drain your battery in about 3-6 depending on your 3g coverage.
WIFI is better, but again you are looking at something between 6-12 hours of continuous usage, so make sure you only use it when you need it.
Finally, if you need to have your emails the instance they arrive, go for a blackberry because it has the only way of pushing email without maintaining a constant data connection.
I don't need this so I am extremely happy with my phone and the battery life I can get out of it.
I hope this helps.
Have my phone set for 2G with wifi always on.
Use wifi at home.
2G is enough for all normal syncs, and if I need more speed for anything else I temporarily switch to 3G for that.
This way a single charge last me well over 24h under normal usage. Don't even know exactly how much.
With the phone set to 3G, the same usage patern will eat a full charge in something like 8h.
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JPM Rom with everything except bluetooth turned on my battery lasted 3 days with low usage (skype a few times and some phone calls and a bit of wifi web-browsing.)
Much better than my wife's iPhone 4... Normally charge it every 2 days.
I am very happy with the phone, just a couple of bug fixes and I would really like it if Swype did some level of contextual checking of words to help minimise unnecessary corrections (perhaps they do already, but it is certainly not well implemented/sophisticated enough).
jonnie86 said:
I was also getting very poor battery life, till I went and exchanged my phone for a new one.
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Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
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Which ROM was on your old SGS and which one is on the replacement?
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
what i wish to have is greater control over the phone, more easily.
Some kind of powertop GUI that let you see the power usage per process.
So you could plain uninstall apps installing ****ty services consuming the battery.
Likewise i'd like *real* control over which background services are running. I mean running an auto killer wtf? Horrible design!
I just want to switch off a service and that it doesnt start again 5 min later thank you very much.
Even the task manager is quite bad. You see last started apps but you don't know which one is running right now. And if its running and backgrounded since a while and you started other apps.. it might very well not even show up in the list anymore. Horrible design again.
Saying all that because stock the phone battery is excellent, installing a couple of popular apps kills it..
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Eclair for both. No Froyo.
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Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for your prompt reply. Could you check it more precisely on your current SGS? FYI: Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version and Build number or "call" *#1234# -> PDA, PHONE, CSC version numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Baseband: I9000UGJH2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UGJH2
Kernel Version: 2.6.29 [email protected]#2
Let us know if you find out anything.
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Let us know if you find out anything.
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Sure thing. And thanks. KIES offered an update from JM1 baseband and JM2 build version. We'll see how the new ROM performs in about 3 days. Unfortunately don't have spare time to do that sooner. I suspect there's huge difference within the baseband versions.
hey guys.
i have galaxy s i9000..i also had problem of battery.my battery would hardly last 24hrs...i even switched to gsm only mode n switched off sync.but still had same prob..few days back i installed JPJPA firmware..now its wroking fine.lasts more than 35hrs...n also battery charges quickly
Is it possible that the reading on the phone is wrong? When you say you are getting 24 hours are you letting it run flat.
Alternately is it saying the battery is running low and you recharge before it goes flat?
Just wondering if the meter is simply giving incorrect information.
Been 24 hours since last recharge. Lost 6% so far. Running JP6 Froyo. Rooted. Network Data Off. During this 24 hours, just used Angry birds-30mins and ColorDict 5mins. Haven't installed any unnecessary app.
Had lost 1% on standby after 14hrs with no usage. Thats amazing. Very Happy user.
Also want to tell u guys that GPS with active Data connection and Google Maps running and display on took approx 1% of battery every 3mins.
Impossible using stock battery, this phone draws a minimum of 10% battery per hour the screen is on. Its more likely 15-20% with most peoples phone.
Your battery meter may be inaccurate, for example after flashing once my battery stayed at 100% for hours then suddenly shot down to 20%
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I use "Battery Indicator" to check my battery status.
My screen is set to turn off and lock after 30 seconds of idling. So it is quite possible to achieve the standby times listed.
Hi, how long do you have holding time of battery, when you are using wi-fi? (browsing)
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Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.
Hey guys, , i apolagise in advanced if this topic is coverd, ive tryied to search but didnt find any related topics.....
Anyway...
I went to a 2 day festival took my x10 - WASTE OF TIME!!!!! couldnt even use it!!!!
Battery had died within first day, with hardly any use and 2nd day i had it charged for me up to 92%...
Checking the times every now and then on the 2nd day from 4pm onwards, i noticed by about 6pm my phone was on 50%, so i was curious about this as no wireless connectivity were turned on,
so at this time, i then "downloaded" from (GSM) not 3g. as coverage wasnt that good, advanced task killer.. i killed ALL my apps.. and carried on as normal, (only checking my phone for the time).. by 8pm i was getting messages saying 15% battery... and then 9pm my phone was dead :/ .......
No wifi, no internet surfing (apart from downloading advanced task killer) no bluetooth no gps..
Used my phone for a couple of text's and a couple of phone calls. NO WAY!!! should that have used all my battery up... Is their somthing i dont know about ??????
thanks
You gotta drain your battery s few times when you first get it. Also task killers don't really help with battery life. Imo they worsen it. Thirdly upgrade to the latest firmware
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You gotta drain your battery s few times when you first get it. Also task killers don't really help with battery life. Imo they worsen it. Thirdly upgrade to the latest firmware
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+1 to that. Don't use task killers, let android do the work, it knows best what to do. what firmware are you using atm?
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Hey guys, , i apolagise in advanced if this topic is coverd, ive tryied to search but didnt find any related topics.....
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X10 battery issues has been covered big time
So has in call volume ...
I had the same first few days as you and was pretty dissapointed in the X10 but now things are much better. You do have to cycle the battery a couple of times and you'll see some improvement.
Most of the extra battery life really comes from using newer firmware. Since you didn't mention yours it's difficult to say if you are above or below 023. The 023 firmware seems to be the spot where most of the increased battery life came about.
Since I still wanted more I switched over to a 2600mAh battery from Cameron Sino. Now I have trouble killing the battery
There is something else that might be contributing to the problem... There are a number of apps and home screen widgets out there which are badly written and prevent the phone from sleeping, and therefore drain the battery like a *****... you should try a Factory Data Reset and then add your apps and widgets back in 1 or 2 per day until you have sussed what was causing it.. I had terrible trouble with Weather and Data widget killing my battery for a while..
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There is something else that might be contributing to the problem... There are a number of apps and home screen widgets out there which are badly written and prevent the phone from sleeping, and therefore drain the battery like a *****... you should try a Factory Data Reset and then add your apps and widgets back in 1 or 2 per day until you have sussed what was causing it.. I had terrible trouble with Weather and Data widget killing my battery for a while..
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Good point about the Widgets.
It would be nice, as a matter of fact, if there were a topic on Widgets that cause battery drain. I've read a few posts about specific widgets but have never seen an ongoing thread. I'm off to look for volunteers.
I seriously dont get these battery threads. I know this dosent help much, but I honestly get over 20 hours on a charge consistently, with WIFI and 3g on.
4h only?
Pretty much is a faulty battery/device.
I saw a movie with brightness at maximum using BT with wifi on at the same time and i still had 60%+ left.
Wow that sucks... I think your battery needs to be replaced.
Mine lasts about 4 DAYS
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Battery history and make sure the phone is sleeping when not in use.
If its showing 100% or close to 100% then an app or something is preventing your phone from properly sleeping.
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my personal experience on two batteries one 2 year old (from x1) and brand new one gave me 7 hours of intense usage wifi ( i don't use 3g ), texting gaming and in the mean time playing music after first update, before was maximum 5 hour , also need to mention i need to remove every task except what i'm working with task killer cause in my case every 2-3 hour for some odd reason i have at least 20 apps restarting again in the system which drain battery like hell , time scape and media scape use lots of battery life in auto connect mode so update it whenever u want them , gps is a drainer too i just use it when i'm desperate be careful some programs may automatically use gps without asking! also should say compare to x1 the speed of the lock is at least 10 times faster and not i can get it indoor near the window as well (its cool) !!!! hope energy roms come here as well cause they will blow your mind!
Just update to the latest firmware version and your battery life will be just fine.
If not you coul'd update your phone, root it, install setcpu, and get rid of Timescape & Mediascape.
I've been seeing a lot of posts on crap battery life around here, and I was chasing my tail about some of them as well, following a lot of misinformation even by senior members. I think I have a good handle on it now, and picked up most of these tips from these forums, so I'm not taking credit for these ideas, just collecting them in one place. Some of my suggestions assume you have root and Rom Manager (see the Tips and Tricks sticky thread on how to get them).
1. If your battery drains in less than a day on standby, you probably have a bad flash of the JI6 modem (either from the OTA update or from a ROM). Flash the JI2 modem from here "www dot teamwhiskey dot com/home/downloads". If the flash fixes it, you may try going back to JI6 if you want, and it may stay fixed. I went back to JI2 and didn't bother going back to JI6, but it has worked for others. With JI2 and 3G on I get just over 24 hours in normal usage.
2. The #2 battery drain on standby is 3G. I turned it off (Settings/Wireless/Mobile networks/Network mode/GSM only) and my phone lasted for 40 hours on Edge with light usage (few phone calls, messaging, quite a lot of web surfing, 2 hours of podcasts). Didn't even feel too slow (I get 140kbps on edge). Can anybody suggest a really good widget for turning 3G on/off? I use the 2G-3G OnOff widget by Curvefish. It's not one-click, it's just a shortcut to Mobile Network Settings, but it works. Note that sometimes it takes a while for the data connection to re-establish after you see the 3G or E icon.
2.5. WiFi always on is a huge battery saver! It keeps 3g off. I can easily get 3+ days with light usage on my home wifi. Settings/Wireless and Network/Wifi Settings/Menu/Advanced/Wifi Sleep Policy/Never.
3. Don't need a task killer. I wasted all my time killing tasks trying to chase down my crappy battery usage, but since I fixed my modem and turned off 3G I know that the 3-5% CPU usage at idle does not hurt my battery. Taskiller for me was actually hitting the CPU constantly, lightly but for no reason, so I got pissed and uninstalled it.
4. Install a CPU usage monitor like Usage Timelines. It sits in the notification bar, very easy on the battery, but tells you if you have a rogue app pegging your CPU and draining your battery. These are the only apps you should be worried about killing. Astro File Manager has a task manager that shows CPU usage for each app, so you can kill the rogue one. I shoot for about 5% cpu usage at idle (at 200mhz - at 100mhz it would be a bit higher).
5. The app Autostarts lets you disable any app from starting on boot or other events like connectivity changes. This is not strictly necessary unless you have a lot of crap apps installed on your phone and they like to start themselves and waste CPU time behind your back.
6. If your battery reads less than 100% as soon as you unplug it from the charger fully charged, or your battery meter sits at 100% for a long time after you unplug it, you can recalibrate your battery meter. To recalibrate: 1) charge your battery to full, 2) unplug, 3) reboot into Clockwork Recovery and 4) Wipe battery stats.
7. There is No Such Thing as "battery reconditioning" (for all intents and purposes). The above procedure only RECALIBRATES you battery METER to read on a more linear scale between full and empty. It DOES NOT make your battery last longer, period. Whoever tells you that is a moron. If your battery is dying in 6 hours, doing any amount of calibration will not make it last longer (I've tried).
8. I wouldn't be too worried about undervolting, overclocking, kernel tricks and superawesomefast ROMS. The CPU drain at idle is so minuscule (as long as you don't have rogue apps) that those things make precious little difference. Like I said, the biggest drain is 3G and other radios. Having said that, I run Bionix 1.9 with the JAC kernel. It drained my battery in half a day at idle until I flashed the JI2 modem. With JI2 it suddenly started lasting over 24 hours, and once I turned off 3G, over 40 hours. I like this ROM and see no need to switch, it's very smooth. But you should be able to get similar battery life on a stock Vibrant.
9. I have GPS on, WiFi never sleep, auto-brightness, and a few widgets on like Weather and friend updates. I have no fancy settings, literally just turning off 3G (or wifi on, which is the same) got me 2-3 days. So I wouldn't waste time fooling around with magic settings (other than wifi never sleep), battery saver apps, etc.
10. If your screen is on all the time and you're playing games nonstop, you're draining your battery quicker than any of the things I mentioned above, so you probably don't care. In that case an optimized ROM/kernel is probably your best bet, especially JIT in Froyo. You can probably save on screen brightness as well.
If you guys have any other tips I'd be glad to add them to the list, but I hope this gives you an understanding of where your battery life is going. Basically: bad modem, 3G, or rogue apps.
Also, I hope this will put an end to trolls calling people whiners for complaining about battery life and saying unproductive **** like "you're a whiner" or "the Galaxy S is just a battery hog, live with it". It's not, you don't have to live with it, nobody should have to, here are your solutions.
Good luck.
A few things I do to help with battery life is:
Disable Audible touch tones
Disable Audible selection
Disable Haptic feedback
Disable SD card notifications
Set animations to NO animations
Uninstall media hub if you dont use it
Disable auto brightness adjustment
Disable power saving mode
I disable the last 2 and just swipe the notification bar to adjust brightness. Granted these items really only work when using the phone but I can go about 2 days of normal use without a charge believe it or not.
yeah disabling 3g has always been the best option for people really, really concerned with battery life.
But it's kinda hard to tell people not to use 3g on their brand new 3g capable devices.
You may want to add how to test if you battery is bad. If you use you phone repeatedly while it its plugged in you risk overheating and damaging your battery. Signs that unitas is the case are very quick drain and long (7 hours) charge times. You can easily test and see if your battery its damaged. Remove it from your phone and place on flat surface (e.g. Counter top) try spinning the battery. If it rotates easily and quickly you battery is bulging, this is a sign of damage. Time for a new battery.
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Use APNDroid. Comes with a widget.
Thanks to the OP and other contributors in this thread.
I flashed a ROM with the ji6 modem and battery life has been noticeably ****ty since. Example - this morning I unplugged my phone at 7:30 am. 100% charged. It's 10:21 am and my phone is at 75%
In the last 3 hours I browsed the web for 10 minutes while having my coffee and a smoke before heading out to work. Blue tooth was on for my drive, and I've sent 2 text messages. Aside from that my phone has been on stand-by since I unplugged it 3 hours ago.
I'm going to try to flash back to ji2 tonight as the battery usage was definitely better. Will also look into the 3G thing.
Thanks again.
You forgot to mention the two DRM and one downloader services that run resident on JI6.
These were the cause of my reduced battery life after I upgraded. Killing & removing these processes restored my battery life back to normal
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I just tried this - switching 3G off works fine, but switching 3G back on didn't work for me. I had to re-boot to get 3G back so this is a no-go in my case.
I know how to kill the processes for the DRM and downloader but how do I remove them?
OP thank you for putting together the list. But I've never seen the point of doing all this. Its like getting a lamborghini and only driving 40mph because it you don't want to waste gas, whats the point? Either get a second wall charger to charge at work or a car charger. Heck even get a second battery if you are out for a long period of time.
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Its like getting a lamborghini and only driving 40mph because it you don't want to waste gas, whats the point?
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You don't need to disable 3g.
The point of my post is to avoid people wasting their time with tweaks that have little to no effect on battery life. I'm telling people that they're wasting time killing apps and optimizing cpu usage and twiddling their settings when the radio drains most of their battery on standby anyway.
Meaning no matter what changes you make, you can only hope to improve your battery life by a tiny amount, because any other effect is overshadowed by 3G.
Put another way, you will NEVER get battery life much longer than a day if you're on 3g, so you're wasting your energy trying all kinds of tricks.
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Use APNDroid. Comes with a widget.
smutek said:
I just tried this - switching 3G off works fine, but switching 3G back on didn't work for me. I had to re-boot to get 3G back so this is a no-go in my case.
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For me the widget did nothing. But it seems like it's not even supposed to turn the 3G radio off, but ALL APN network traffic. Did I miss something? It won't save battery power as long as the 3G radio is on.
I went back to the 2G-3G OnOff widget by Curvefish. It's not one-click, it's just a shortcut to Mobile Network Settings, but it works. Note that sometimes it takes a while for the data connection to re-establish after you see the 3G or E icon.
Back to my Moto Startac
While i understand the idea behind this thread, your conclusion is simple.
If you use the phone as a smartphone, it will eat up your battery no matter what.
I personally go through two batteries and some a day. (they cost about 12 bucks in ebay, and they work just fine)
The price for saving battery is not using the phone, and having a 400 bucks phone just for show off is just silly at least.
If you have a phone like this is to use it. At least you can change the battery not like some other devices......
I understand that task killer is useless, but do any of you use Autokiller (memory manager) ?
That's kind of a redundant question because even if you do not use the app, your phone is still performing the functions. The app just adjusts the settings. But to answer your question, using a memory optimization tool such as AutoKiller is 1000% more efficient than using a Task Killer. I don't think it effects battery much, but works wonders on performance.
There's no 3g-off widget because apparently in Android there's no way to do that through a direct command. I also use the Curvefish widget, and you are absolutely right about turning off 3g to save battery. I normally do so when I'm asleep or if I'm sitting at my desk next to a computer (why do I need fast data on my phone when I have my computer right here?).
The other thing I would recommend is AutoStarts. There are way too many apps that open themselves up at bizarre and inappropriate times. Autostarts is an easy and painless way to see which apps do this and keep them from opening.
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While i understand the idea behind this thread, your conclusion is simple.
If you use the phone as a smartphone, it will eat up your battery no matter what.
I personally go through two batteries and some a day. (they cost about 12 bucks in ebay, and they work just fine)
The price for saving battery is not using the phone, and having a 400 bucks phone just for show off is just silly at least.
If you have a phone like this is to use it. At least you can change the battery not like some other devices......
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Great battery life comes to people who hardly use their phones. Guess I need to get a netbook. Will prolly get a netbook or 3g laptop + skype and ETF my phone soon. These battery woes are show-stopping.
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Losing 4% an hour on standby when you're not using the phone is unacceptable. Samsung screwed something up with the JI6 update. Most people think it's because of the stupid Media Hub. I think they are right.
People are not complaining about the poor battery life from using the phone. They are complaining about the slow battery drain even when they are not using it. ~4% an hour adds up fast. Vibrant is supposed to have 450 hour (18 days) stand-by time. That's what is rated. But people are getting 24 hour (1 day) stand-by time after JI6.
Yellow C6 said:
Losing 4% an hour on standby when you're not using the phone is unacceptable. Samsung screwed something up with the JI6 update. Most people think it's because of the stupid Media Hub. I think they are right.
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I'm not ready to sign off on this idea. For me simply flashing JI2 over JI6 fixed it. For some people flashing JI6 back over still left the problem fixed. I still have those processes running on JI2 and my battery life is fine.
The other reason I'm not ready to recommend wiping out those DRM processes is that apparently it stops the bundled Avatar movie from playing, and might affect other things that users may get pissed about. I've read that killing the downloader process people are talking about kills the market. So I really wish those people advocating that solution would figure their **** out and provide exact steps for the fix (right now their posts are really vague like "kill the processes that are named something like this" and not well tested; in all my research I didn't find the exact name of the "downloader" process).
Is it possible to flash the ji2 modem without root? Wishful thinking, I suppose..
I got a heavy battery drain after flashing to the official Kies 2.2 here in Norway, on JM2 I had over two days usable time, now down to a normal day.
I've reset it several times, tried running it without any apps at all, still heavy battery drain. After checking the battery statistics/history I can see under "Partial awake time", Android System, 2 hours after 14 hours "uptime". And under "Sensor use", Gallery eats up 9 hours, 11 mins. Now what the hell is that about T_T
At least waiting for the new official fw in november.. At least the GPS got better for my part, so it's not all bad
After updating to the official 2.2 that came here in Norway, I started experiencing heavy battery drain compared to before.
After some digging I noticed under *#*#4636#*#* and Battery History and Sensor Usage, Gallery is on top! And it's using the phone's sensors almost 100% of the time it's been on. So, now; the phone has been unplugged for 12 hours, 14 minutes, and Gallery has used the sensors for 12 hours, 4 minutes. Doesn't make sense.
I suspected wifi to be the culprit to begin with, as it throned at the top in the normal battery drainage-graph (about phone, battery usage), but even if I turned off wifi, 3g and autosync over the night, the battery percentage fell just as quickly.
Now, I've tried resetting the phone several times, as I thought it was an installed app that caused the drainage, but that wasn't the case. So, what else can I do when a reset doesn't do it?
Using a GT-i9000 with JPM/JP6 non-rooted.
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After updating to the official 2.2 that came here in Norway, I started experiencing heavy battery drain compared to before.
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Well, for what it's worth I too experienced exceptionally high battery usage when I updated to JP6 via KIES hack (same version as yours). Downgraded to the latest stock ROM for my region (Eclair JG4) and the issue is gone.
Now I think I will wait for the official 2.2 update for my region (although, having had a peek at what Froyo has to offer I think I can pretty safely even skip it without missing much).
I too notice a lot of power drain and general lack of ram. What I found was that froyo has a crapload of startup services/processes compared to eclair. I disabled most of them that could be removed and replaced most of the rest like k9 for email and handscent for messeging. System seems less laggy due to more free ram and more power as CPU isn't bogged down by extra unwanted processes like samsungs remote wipe and stupid sns
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I'm also suffering from battery drainage with Froyo (JP6). I was quite satisfied with battery use on Eclair. Froyo has reduced battery life almost by 50 percent. I have same programs and I'm using exactly the same settings than with Eclair. I haven't noticed anything odd from the battery history statistics though. Only strange thing is that phone reports that screen in consuming over 90 percent of the battery all the time. Well, that's just not true.
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I'm also suffering from battery drainage with Froyo (JP6). I was quite satisfied with battery use on Eclair. Froyo has reduced battery life almost by 50 percent. I have same programs and I'm using exactly the same settings than with Eclair. I haven't noticed anything odd from the battery history statistics though. Only strange thing is that phone reports that screen in consuming over 90 percent of the battery all the time. Well, that's just not true.
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it's a sensor issue, looking at the spare parts batt usage stats. but no idea what sensor/app is the culprit. very annoying
An App I use daily for all manor including checking battery usage is 'SystemPanel'. It's been a God-send and sorted out many a problem.
There's a Free & paid version but the App is that good I immediately went for the paid App.
In 6 hours battery has gone from full charge to 85% in standby mode.
Is this normal? Charge goes awfuly quick when using the phone.
3G on, all syncs off.
Running on Froyo reg hack. Same problem on Eclair!
Phone is 85% charge from full charge on idle over 6 hours.
3G is on, 2 bars showing. WiFi on, not connected.
Display 50%, WiFi 30%, Cell 14%, Phone 6%
Froyo, Eclair same usage except Wifi connected better with Eclair on home network...
2 meters from wifi transmitter and signal fluctuates.
Also, anyone's stock browser lags with yogurt? Was good on eclair
Is it because of fash? Seems to lag on all sites now.
Just to add to this... I had similar battery life in Froyo... HOWEVER, yesterday I used the Gallery and my battery drained from full in under 10 hours with no use (overnight standby with data off).
I check my battery stats when i switched my phone back on and they're okay for the 'since last unplugged'... however... for 'all time' gallery is also my highest user!
So, looks like gallery is only a problem if you use it... if not, it's fine.
crabby
I also have like a 2hr sensor usage on my gallery...
About the light sensor atleast on the JPM/JP6 theres like 2 steps of brightness full and low.. is this normal ?
Beards said:
An App I use daily for all manor including checking battery usage is 'SystemPanel'. It's been a God-send and sorted out many a problem.
There's a Free & paid version but the App is that good I immediately went for the paid App.
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+1 for that app! Paid one with possibility to see history over time..
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Sensor usage for me was also 100% in spare parts, even if the phone was off. I had to turn off auto-rotate, and it quickly became a lot less. Although I have to say it haven't solved my problem! My battery consumption with full brightness over wifi is 10%/30 min. That's just ridiculous. I'm still on the problem, and will update anything I find out. We could actually make a "BIG BATTERY DRAINAGE" thread, where everybody posts detailed logs about the drain.
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+1 for that app! Paid one with possibility to see history over time..
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I have the payed version, How do I set it to monitor battery usage and show w/c app is using the battery so much ?
i'm on jp6 and my gallery is eating up my sensor usage too ):
looks like I've got to restart everytime I use the gallery.
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I have the payed version, How do I set it to monitor battery usage and show w/c app is using the battery so much ?
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activate monitoring under "menu / settings tab"
then you can see look under menu/monitor and select history tab..
on top tab where it says plot you can select top apps.
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just a question. you guys that are experiencing the sensor issues, are you on jp6? could it be a jp6 issue?
Exchange email accounts are a huge drain to in Scandinavian Froyo
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
Set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
I have notice a large battery drain overnight with the OFFICIAL samsung froyo JPO. I suspect it may be the gallery/sensor issue.
1 can anyone affirm this.
2 can we replace the gallery or fix it
tanks
JPA was better for me. With JPO I noticed that the media scanner would eat up the CPU all the time. It seems to get stuck on certain files more easily.
I've unlocked and am running Ken's Alien ROM and so far I really like this. Im an international user on orange uk, so I use faux123's kernel for Oc and ram fix. But there is one caveat. I have really rubbish battery life. I did all the stuff (charge to 100% from 0% wipe stats, calibrate). The fact is, I left it on, for ten hours. The display was on for about 2. No usage. When I returned the battery was 30%, with phone idle consuming 30%. Newer radio needed? What can I do? My baseband is N_01.95.00R .
I've heard good things about the newest AT&T radio for battery. How can I flash this to an international ATRIX?
Help appreciated
Edit : phone idle consumed 40% :O
I have the exact same issue. Unfortunately, all that I can say is that changing neither kernel, radio or rom did fix this issue. I had some improvements when I followed this topic and flashed back my stock kernel (with no OC), but still very far from what I would consider a decent battery lifetime (10h with 3g + email and twitter sync and screen off)
Some users have tried and it worked well from them. I'm on the team that didn't work ): But you could give it a shot
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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_Dennis_ said:
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
OP stated he tried calibration without success... I too am having subpar battery performance - interested to see what others have done to achieve better battery performance besides the previously mentioned methods.
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Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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I've done all that stuff, but it doesn't help IMHO. (at least it didn't do anything for me)
Only 2 real fixes that have worked for me are these:
1. Freeze unnecessarily apps with Titanium Backup (use "System panel" from the Market to find out what keeps constantly running/popping up in the background that you don't need)
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2. Turn off Automatic Sync, and get in the habit of doing that stuff manually all at once.
@2. I use to sync in the worst signal areas, and that drained the **** out of my battery. Sync/get your updates manually in strong signal areas whenever possible...
New radio from the fruitcakes thread and the latest faux123 kernel seemed to kill that bug.
I sold my atrix to my less then nerdy friend and I just fixed that bug for him yesterday. Same deal tho...
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I noticed from X2 battery (I think) every minute or two the phone constantly checks for either cell or data signal. I can let my iphone 4 sit on the counter all day and it might use 1-2% but my atrix drops 5% in an hour without touching it. No calibration or battery fix will help. Even CM7 uses it fairly quickly. Im running Alien 4 with max battery saver and gps and auto sync disabled...it should last for a full day with heavy usage.
Alien 4 w/theme, faux123 kernel, everything at stock settings for this rom, nothing frozen, and I am sitting at 1 day and 13 hours with 28% left, mostly idle, but an hour long call and bit of game playing.
If you are getting something on the order of just a few hours then your phone or battery must be bad. I am doing nothing to extend the battery life other then using the default settings.
The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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Most iphone users need to charge at LEAST once a day. A lot of them charge more than once. I can sometimes get 2 days usage from my Atrix, with heavy texting, some calls, and some games - which is pretty damn good.
Maybe your battery is the issue. not all Atrix are created equal and not all batteries function the same
When you go into settings>running apps, does your free and used ram add up to over 800? Mine used to and now it doesn't. It adds up to like 750....I always thought it would add up to mid to upper 800's. It also could be the battery but I was pointing out that I have left my wife's Iphone 4 and my atrix on the counter all day (neither one got used) and my atrix was down in the 70% range and her phone was at 96%. I'm just thinking something is running or consuming the battery. I've used fastboot to do all wipes and still seem to be having an issue.... I also flash ROMs every few days so maybe the battery calibration doesn't have time to really calibrate. I'll pick a combo I like and keeep it for a few days and see if I notice a better battery life.
How long has it been since you've flashed a ROM? It usually takes a few days for it to settle back in and provide decent battery life (at least from my experience). My phone right now has been on for a little over 7 hours and is at about 55% with Display using up 60% of the battery (3hrs on). This is with the Alien v4 and Faux's latest kernel. The first few days after flashing a ROM my phone would usually only last about 7 hours.
i get 2-3 days on stand by. and about 6-8 hours of straight use. 3-5 if i'm using mobile broadband.
1: keep gps and data off (background data is almost irrelevant.)
2: use green power
3: use a task manager to close applications that you are not using. (be sure you can add "ignore" exceptions otherwise get a different manager. anyone who says not to use a task manager is a ****ing punk hipster ***** fag who's irreparable damage to the geeks good name will not go unpunished)
4: do the "wipe battery stats" bit after every flash (100% charge, wipe stats, full discharge)
5: is to install a custom kernel and use SetCPU to underclock to 312 while the screen is off..
most importantly: use your head. if you stream 1080p using mobile broadband for 2 hours your battery is dead.
I flash ROMs every few days but I call BS on the whole "Battery Calibration" thing. If my battery is showing 4200mv...it's full. It will die faster the more processes the phone does so my point it....whether I flash a rom every day it shouldn't matter, if the phone (After I set up and install whetever apps) gets unplugged, something drains the battery. Maybe the infra red sensor is always on, or a process is always starting and ending, who knows but the battery cannot be calibrated, the phone might need to be calibrated to read the correct voltage but batteries don't hold memory unlike the old NiCD rechargables from years ago.
When you flash a rom the battery stats get messed up. Based on what I know the way the battery drains depends on previous battery usage data hence the reason why it last longer after a few days of use after a rom is flashed. It needs to build up new data to correctly report battery use. Maybe I'm wrong but my experience supports this.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
After you charge your phone and take it off the charger, reboot it.
It seems that a process kills the phones battery after you take it off the charger. You have to reboot after taking it off. It works wonders. Currently on 16 hours of use @ 45% battery on alien rom with stock kernel.
Cheers.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I have frozen:
All of the authenticators
Weather
Tasks,
Home,(I use launcher pro)
Music (I use Poweramp)
Toggle Widgets,
News,
GingerBlur,
Gallery, (I use QuicPic)