as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
leobox1 said:
as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
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Hey Leobox,
There could be a plenty of factors involved:
1. Constant use of GPRS to update weather.
2. Some SD cards use up the battery.
3. Make sure that your internet connection is not on generally
4. Finally, use BSB tweaks for power management.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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as mentioned in my previous post.. the battery of HD2 seems to be ok.. a fren who is a power user has it.. generally this is what he does:
Full charge in the morning
Day use:
Approx 90-100 mins of call
15-20 mins of browsin
30 odd mins of music play
150 odd daily messages
15-20 mins of push mail
from 100% at about 8AM in the morning to about 25% in the evening at about 11PM.
I think thats pretty good
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
leobox1 said:
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
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Thats the culprit
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
with regard to data connection. do we have to manually turn it off in the settings page or is there a way to make it turn itself off when its idle.
what ROM are you on?
I was originally on 1.48 ROM and had pretty bad battery drain problems too.
Most i got was about 1 day on average usage (couple calls and texts with browsing and slight GPS)
But i upgraded to 1.61 and i can honestly get 2-3 days now, no joke!
On hard usage about 1.5 days, but its still much better than before.
So if u want u can try upgrading to 1.61 and see how that works out for you
After struggling with the battery life for last 10 days I figured the real culprit to be the SD card. from day 1 I had 4GB SD card and the response was always slow while browsing the storage card or using Music and Photo tabs in SENSE.
I replaced the SD card yesterday night with original 2 GB card. I had 54 percent yesterday night and after 16 Hours I am still at 33 percent. (even with 25 mins call and some use of phone).
Seems the problem is resolved. Hope this helps to all who have battery problem.
leobox1 said:
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
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You are correct- a data connection turned on but not exchanging data uses minimal power as it's simply part of the GSM/3G service. However, if it is on, then some programs can use the connection for active data transfer which will use some power.
If you stick with GSM, rather than 3G, the battery hit is even less. Most battery usage when 3G is on results from the hunting between protocols when the 3G signal level is poor, though a good 3G connection uses less power than a stable GSM connection.
yes been thinking about updating the ROM. im on the o2 1.43 rom.
I still dont get the data connection though. even if i manually turn it off, something turns it back on i pressume its Twitter or weather. but why does it not disconnect itself afterwards?
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
I'm using 1.48 ROM. It only lasts about a day .
waxfresh said:
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
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I also have a Omina II, and whilst I appreciate it has a larger capacity battery and only 800mhz processor, I could listen to the fm radio for an hour and the battery would drop 1% Max. The omina does throttle down the processor for less demanding apps.
I had problem with G-Alarm. When in standby the HD2 use only 4-5mA in GSM/GPRS (no 3G) but when opening and closing G-Alarm, the HD2 was using in standby 80mA average.
I found that overnight it was discharging my battery around 40% (from 89% to 45% in 7hours). Then after disinstalling it I come back to normal discharge rate of around 4% overnight.
I think that G-Alarm and maybe some other softwares are not fully compatibles with the HD2 and after you open it (and close it with task manager, so not still open in background) there is a bug that let the HD2 not fully in standby, also if the screen stay off. In this situation the processor is still active and drain the battery faster. The only way to recover from this, is with softreset.
Perhaps apart from network usage / 3G / wifi / microSD etc. there are some programs developed for previous WM devices that are not 100% compatibles with HD2 and don't fully put on standby the device after you used it (also if closed with task manager) draining faster the battery.
Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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I tried the 2.3 version. When I was testing it, when closing it, it was not dispaying on task manager also for me, but after that the battery was draining quicker during standby. After I disinstalled it, the draining of battery during standby comeback to normal (4-5mA).
I use battery log to check battery draining.
It's a very powerful smartphone folks, my battery barely lasts a day either. I have to charge my HD2 every 20 hours-or-so. Stop comparing the battery drain on this handset to an old phone you just used for texting and making calls! Every smartphone I've owned drained the battery within a day if I actually used it for more than calls and texting. If you turn the data connection off and turn the 3G to GSM, you will experience much longer battery life....but then you won't be using the phone for anything much will you?
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What is the average battery life most people are getting from their devices? The reason for asking I beleive that my battery life has reduced drastically, I'm averaging 36hours. I do not use it as a phone, the Wifi & bluetooth is switch off, the unit is used for push email only and I receive about 20 emails per day, very little WEB browsing.
I'm sure my battery life was a lot better when I took delivery of the unit.
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What is the average battery life most people are getting from their devices? The reason for asking I beleive that my battery life has reduced drastically, I'm averaging 36hours. I do not use it as a phone, the Wifi & bluetooth is switch off, the unit is used for push email only and I receive about 20 emails per day, very little WEB browsing.
I'm sure my battery life was a lot better when I took delivery of the unit.
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Mmmmm.. well I'd consider 36 hours fantastic but then it sounds as if I use mine a lot more for wifi, surfing, phone etc. than you. Perhaps an hour to hour and a half per day and charge once per day but will usually have 40/50% charge left I did see a post from someone saying with reasonably heavy use they could only get 8hrs.
Mike
i use mine mostly for data.. in a 3G area i average about an 9.2% loss per hour.. in a edge area i am averaging about 1.7% loss per hour... these are all estimates since the battery meter only goes by 10's
I am fairly certain that the 3G is eating power. I get a full days work out of it with a lot of phone calls, push email, BT always on, and occasional WiFi usage. I am almost always in 3G, I very rarely lose it and only when at a clients far away.
Later, Lew
BTW, A full days work for me is 9am to 3am.
3G is the problem. Consider switching to 3G via MortScript as described in another thread. Personally, I use the GPRS only setting for normal use. PushMail would consume a lot less energy with GPRS and the speed isn't such an issue for mails in my opinion. Whenever I'm willing to browse the net a bit more, I switch to 3G before doing so (takes ca. 15s via the script) and when done, I go back to the less battery eating and more reliable (for taking phone calls etc.) GSM only mode.
You will definately at least double the runtime of your Hermes. I can do 5 days (phone on at night, little use) by doing so.
Well I can confirm that 3G is the cause, as suggested I've switched to GSM and battery life is a lot better.
3rd charge i managed to get nearly 2 days, had a 4 hr gprs web session last night on minimum brightness and still had 30% battery this morning.
if the battery goes to 0% what happens? data loss or just turns off?
jonr said:
3rd charge i managed to get nearly 2 days, had a 4 hr gprs web session last night on minimum brightness and still had 30% battery this morning.
if the battery goes to 0% what happens? data loss or just turns off?
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Other than any document/application open at time of shut down you should be ok, not like my old Clie that looses everything that's not screwed down on the storage card. In fact quite often I deliberately remove the battery for a while if I reckon it may help with a lock up (normally due to some rubbish downloaded freebie!!). All saved programmes to Device memory and card remain in tact.
Mike
Using my TYTN for email (check every 30 minutes), newsgroups (check every 30 minutes) and reading both every 2 hours.
Also using the phone for lots of browsing.
And i am also using my phone for making some phonecalls over the day (with and without bluetooth carkit), i get to use my phone for about 16 to 18 hours without need for a recharge.
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How do you enable auto email send and receive?
Cant find the option anywhere
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if you add an email account to your tytn you get the option advanced at the end of the settings. if you click it you will get the option to send/receive at a standard timeperiod.
I use UMTS for email and web browsing continuosly for 2 hours and I'm down to 10% after a full night charge. It's pathetic.
Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
lewcamino said:
Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
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i dont know about that.. everyone seems to be getting around the same battery life... i would bet that if i used mine on umts continously for 2 hours i would be close to the same drain, UMTS sucks alot of battery
shogunmark said:
i dont know about that.. everyone seems to be getting around the same battery life... i would bet that if i used mine on umts continously for 2 hours i would be close to the same drain, UMTS sucks alot of battery
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that's true and umts sucks a lot of power. i am using mine on umts in tokyo and i can only get 10 to 12 hours. i use it mostly for push email (about 80 emails), an hour of browsing and some phone calls a day. i've ended up purchasing mugen's 3000mah one to get through the day without recharging.
lewcamino said:
Your device is broke, or your battery is defective. Seriously, if you have a warranty, act on it.
Later, Lew
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I highly doubt it as I have two 8525 and both of them will be at 10% with 2 hours of continuous use.
Well I'm on my 2nd battery.First one was replaced under warranty as I was getting about 8hrs with very little usage.
I'm on my third charge with the new battery. The first & second charges have given me about 15hrs.
Agent said I should be getting 4hrs talk time and if the second battery is also [email protected] then they will replace the phone. So I'm monitoring until next week.
Quad said:
Well I'm on my 2nd battery.First one was replaced under warranty as I was getting about 8hrs with very little usage.
I'm on my third charge with the new battery. The first & second charges have given me about 15hrs.
Agent said I should be getting 4hrs talk time and if the second battery is also [email protected] then they will replace the phone. So I'm monitoring until next week.
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This may not apply to you (as you probably know it already!), but Windows Mobile does not shut down programmes when you click the x in top right corner. To ensure you are not unknowingly running lots of applications in the background you need to use a programme that really shuts applications down properly - e.g. Magicbutton or HTC X Button. This can save considerably on both battery power and performance.
Mike
Mike, I'm using Magicbutton and make sure all apps are closed all the time. I've read a lot about the UTMS connection on all the time draining battery. I've just downloaded this app: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
See if this works and extends battery.
Quad said:
Mike, I'm using Magicbutton and make sure all apps are closed all the time. I've read a lot about the UTMS connection on all the time draining battery. I've just downloaded this app: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
See if this works and extends battery.
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Had a quick look at your link and yip, looks good going to try it as well.
Mike
Guys,
just bought my X1i last week. One of the my reason to buy this phone, because some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
So I'm just curious about how long does your X1 battery last. Mine, it can barely last 2 days, most of the time, I have to charge it everyday, so I can use the phone for the next day.
Please post your answers below and also mention the rom you used at this moment. Just want to know, if there is any correlation between versions of rom used and battery life. I used stock generic UK R3A.
Also if anyone knows how to save your X1 battery, please also post it below...
Thanx and regards,
liemivan
i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...
I'm havin the same problem. Battery just lasts one day. I turn off the internet by turning off the data connection switch in com manager but still no dice. Is there a battery checker to see if u have a bad battery?
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).
TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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Did you delete biotouch or do u just stop it from running?
liemivan86 said:
some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
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HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.
orelsi said:
HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.
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what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?
may be possible with edge only connection with no wifi bt and push and screen set to lowest.
Lake292 said:
what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?
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Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .
My battery lasts about 5 or 6 hours, simply had to buy a second charger and keep at work. Would leave home around 5:30 a.m. fully charged. Bluetooth is always on from then to about maybe 8a.m. or 9a.m. Listeing to audio podcasts or audio books. Screen at full brightness, always have the 3G connection on. Couple hundred text msgs to go through, along with clicking on links as needed to go to the websites linked in them. And SkyFire to read the Wall Street Journal for maybe 30 mins.
X1am, ROM: 1.02.948.8 with a date of 09/17/08.
about 2 - 3 days depending on use (more calls on some days lowers battery alot)
My power Xperiences so far
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.
Wow... judging from the answers here, it is very strange to see how the battery life can be very differ from one to another. One can only last for 5 to 6 hours, while others can last for up to 3 to 5 days.
Lake292 said:
i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...
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Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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I'll try to check it out... Thanx...
Trudi said:
R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).
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I guess that maybe the cause, since the umts network around here is not so good... I'll check that later and let you know if it is the cause...
orelsi said:
Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .
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Wow... that what I call HEAVY USE... Btw, what rom did you use? Thanx...
pokdub said:
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.
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I guess it is because of if you used all your battery power, you will also drain the backup battery (you can check the backup battery status by using the apps "batty"), so it will take a while to charge the backup battery first before charging the main battery. This is only a guess...
What Backup Battery??? The thing that shows up in Batti is for phone with a backup battery I guess... but NOT for the X1. There is no such thing that can show up in Batti. On mine it shows just an empty bar.
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Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
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why would i have it on when my operator doesnt even support 3g course it was off no data connection also... my battery goes down 10-20% a day when i just use it for music and some sms...
Mine lasts about ~6 hours talk time at 3G.
~3-4 Days when i use talk ~30 minutes / day.
Only lasted a few hours with the original Rom.
Flashed to Smabergs Touch X 10.0, battery lasted ~1 day, and then with 10.1 it got improved to 3-4 days.
Which is enough. Thank you Smaberg!
My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).
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My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).
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Touch X is all that you want, and will ever need.
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.
hye,
I just bought a HTC leo which I really love.
but there is just one thing I'm concerned about, the battery life.
with my htc touch pro 2 I was able to use my phone 2 days before recharging but I can't do that with the htc HD2
IS THERE A WAY TO IMPROVE BATTERIE LIFE?
thanx
use less of your phone the hd2 drains the battery and is very good at that.
Or you buy another spare battery to switch with the exausted one when you're on the go, they're pretty cheap on ebay with a mains charger
only tips, would be turn all you're updates off, i.e, email, weather, twitter, stocks etc. screen brightness, not much else really, i get a full day out of my battery with everything turned on and full screen brightness so im happy
switch off 3G whenever there is no need for it, best is using a tool like wmlonglive to do this automatically. Will improve the battery live especially if signal strength is changing often between 2G and 3G
don't use windows live push mail, it will improve your battery dramatically
edward
my HD2 just takes 30 minutes to drop from 100% to 70 % .....
from the bottom of my heart , i want to say , htc fone ..... not good as they say ,
crap
battery drinker
just after some games , it hots ...............
will change other fone ,
I do not have a problem with the phone. it lasts me 2-3 days depending on where i am. thus depending on phone signal strength.
Further when you want to improve battery life look at the treads about that. there are so many with so many suggestions. quite a few have improved my battery dramatically. search and try.
@Felix
Are you using a Stock-ROM?
When yes, then install atleast BsB-Tweaks and activate the powersaving settings ... (the most cooked roms already have this settings)
It will bring some extra minutes/hours
My HD2 (fully loaded over night) is at 77% after 8 hours and some phone calls (ca. 30 minutes), sms and some gaming and surfing
@enchanter
yes, it drains the battery pretty good and yes its becoming hot when you play games or stuff ... but what is the problem with it?
We all knew this - before we bought a HD2
ha ha , Pliskinius has the coolest answer
" what is the problem with it?
We all knew this - before we bought a HD2 "
u right man ,
@ pliskinius: I don't know what a stock rom is... it is the rom who was installed when I bought it.
my battery lasts one day and a bit, so there is not really a big problem, but when you go somewhere and forget your charger...
@enchanter: I'm really pleased with my htc, its my 6 or so and they become nicer and nicer..
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@Felix
Are you using a Stock-ROM?
When yes, then install atleast BsB-Tweaks and activate the powersaving settings ... (the most cooked roms already have this settings)
It will bring some extra minutes/hours
My HD2 (fully loaded over night) is at 77% after 8 hours and some phone calls (ca. 30 minutes), sms and some gaming and surfing
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Try this fully drain the battery until the phone shuts down then take out the battery for two minutes,put the battery back in (DO NOT TURN ON THE PHONE) and charge until the green light comes on, take out the battery for another two minutes then put it back in and start up, this should improve battery life.
Also other factors affecting battery life are the Rom version,Radio and HSPL.
nice idea @nosh - will try it too ... maybe it brings some extra minutes
@Felix
you are using a stockrom (stockroms are the original ones, wich are installed when you pick up a new phone)
get this little tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305 and activate the energysaving feature (will improve the battery life)
@ nosh 10: I'll try that thanks, but I heard that fully draining your battery is not a good thing.
@ pliskinius: haha, yeah I know I don't know a lot about WM
Laurentius26 ROMs get an excellent battery life. I get 2 days without deactivating anything. And everything works perfectly and smoothly. I have the 2.10.50.26 radio ROM and the Laurentius26 GoldEdition V2.0 Spike™ WWE 21899. Can last up to 2.5 to 3 days by deactivating 3G. I download weather every 3 hours, tweets every 4 hours, e-mail every hour. Then I make phone calls about 15 minutes per day, sms 10 to 20, pictures about 10, surf with Opera about 30 minutes per day. Remember also to close all unused applications (for me the best task manager is the Touch X manager that is on Xperia X2, lets you choose between short click on the cross to minimize the app and long click on the cross to close the app).
Edit : It's now 15:50. Was 100 % yesterday evening by 22:00. Now it's 73 % left. But I only used my phone since that time to make a countdown for cooking at lunch time.
I'm currently in Japan, using phone on 3G, very little use, listen to some music daily (30 min) and play around an hour. I'm getting 3 days easily without a charge and could easiy stretch to 4 days.
Back in my country I disable 3G and use only 2g with auto updates on every 3 hours, no email push no twitter whatsoever, just weather updates. During the night the battery drains down by 15% and with normal usage I'd have to charge daily.
15% during the night with maybe 2 updates during the night and data connection disabling just after a few minutes shouldn't drain the battery by that much. Dunno, but I'm pointing my fingers towards 2g.
I'm no expert, actually I'm far from that, but could it be that 2g uses more power from the phone?
Without any usage at all, here in Japan, I hardly get a 10% battery drain in 24hrs compared to 15% during the night back in my country.
Maybe new comm chips Edge eats more than 3G as all the phones are now optimized for 3G, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
But one thing is sure : if you have bad 3G coverage or bad quality signal, it really drains your battery. Only way to avoid this : disable 3G and you phone will stop changing from Edge to 3G or HDPDA several times per minute.
I'm using WMLonglife, and I've set it to 3g only. Now I have no idea if here in Japan they have HSDPA or Edge or if the software is keeping the phone on 3g, but I haven't seen the phone changing from 3g even when the reception went down to 1 bar.
But i'm pretty impressed with the battery life at the moment. Pity i won't have the same battery life back home.
Hey guys, I've had the phone since Saturday and even though I've been through a few charge cycles my battery only lasts about 6-8 hours. Today I took the phone off the charger at 10:00 AM and it died on me at 5:45 PM. I only texted a few times and only did an hour or so of Slacker Radio. Seems a little low for what I'm doing with the phone.
I am on Kumar's classic 2.2 ROM with 2.11 radio.
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Hey guys, I've had the phone since Saturday and even though I've been through a few charge cycles my battery only lasts about 6-8 hours. Today I took the phone off the charger at 10:00 AM and it died on me at 5:45 PM. I only texted a few times and only did an hour or so of Slacker Radio. Seems a little low for what I'm doing with the phone.
I am on Kumar's classic 2.2 ROM with 2.11 radio.
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A lot of things can drain the battery, 3g on in a no 3g area, weather updates, twitter , email updates ...
But If I was you I would try a diff radio ... I get a full day out of mine at this point a little more ...
I've tried 2.12 as well and the battery didn't improve.
Is your activesync checking as items come in? That's what drained mine terribly. Basically, it can be a ton of things that make your battery drain such as:
1. backlight
2. agps
3. certain programs
4. etc
You'd have to list a bunch of stuff on what you're doing to your phone
Can you turn activesync off? If so, how?
Also, any other tips to save battery life?
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Can you turn activesync off? If so, how?
Also, any other tips to save battery life?
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Definitely lower down the screen brightness to 20%, turn off Bluetooth and WiFi, don't let things like Twitter and your e-mail update so often.
Also using the internet/music/videos will drain quite a bit of power, especially if you use the internet while listening to music.
Yeah I mainly use internet radio while at work. Would using WiFi be easier on the battery than using 3G/H?
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Yeah I mainly use internet radio while at work. Would using WiFi be easier on the battery than using 3G/H?
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Yes, I've done it both ways and wifi most definitely draws less juice when streaming data than 3g (and when idle too, for that matter)
do you think it matters whether you install programs on your SD card or on the device?
i have CHT installed on the SD card and i can't make it 8 hrs on light usage.
I only have 3 apps installed so far, but it's on the device.
Also, is there a way to have the default wallpapers without animation? I'm sure that doesn't help the battery every time I unlock the phone either.
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do you think it matters whether you install programs on your SD card or on the device?
i have CHT installed on the SD card and i can't make it 8 hrs on light usage.
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Yes. Try installing it on and running it from the phone instead, I'm sure you'll see at least a noticible difference.
Honestly, there's really not much of any reason to install apps on the SD card with this phone...there's more storage available than even most power users would ever come close to filling.
im in teh same boat. had it since march. on elegancia rom which people say is great for battery. on 2.12
now im in a bad service area in my basement often so i know sometimes thats the cause. but even at the gym 40 mins of internet radio dropped my battery almost 20 percent.
if i do nothing with the phone it usually drops 5 pct an hour 10 pct with moderate use but 20 easily if i do anything on the web over 3g or wifi. its awful
oh and i have lumos configured, i only have email connect every 2 hours and weather every 6. nothing else connects
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im in teh same boat. had it since march. on elegancia rom which people say is great for battery. on 2.12
now im in a bad service area in my basement often so i know sometimes thats the cause. but even at the gym 40 mins of internet radio dropped my battery almost 20 percent.
if i do nothing with the phone it usually drops 5 pct an hour 10 pct with moderate use but 20 easily if i do anything on the web over 3g or wifi. its awful
oh and i have lumos configured, i only have email connect every 2 hours and weather every 6. nothing else connects
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Wow! your phone's battery usage sounds a little over the top. Might want to try using a different radio. 2.08 has given me the best signal/battery efficiency, but of course that varies from phone to phone.
Also, I bought a 2600 mAh battery so now I'm not afraid to use my phone. As long as you don't mind the extra bulk it adds to the back of the phone , I would suggest getting an extended battery to everyone complaining about how their battery dies too fast.
I will back up the statement that putting apps in main memory will save you battery ...
The less your phone has to access the SDcard the less power it uses.
A big thing is if you have any apps that run all the time that are on the SDcard , not only does it drain battery but will degrade the performance of the SDcard .
Anyone else have any ideas?
talked to tmo on webchat last night got em to send me a new battery
so if nothin helps at least il have two
I'm trying that method right now, we'll see what happens.