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Was wondering what's the track record of Samsung getting custom Roms/firmware?
I really like how XDA have developers to do custom ROMS for HTC phones but was wondering does Samsung phones gets same treatment? Or will be looking at far and few in between updates from Samsung itself and won't be able to update to the latest and greatest?
Really want Nexus One but the Galaxy S is sooooooooo much better *sigh*
Can't answer your question on whether the Samsung will get the same amount of Dev time that has been lavished on the HTC phones, but I was in the same situation as yourself - Galaxy S or Nexus One.
I came down on the side of the Galaxy S simply because it's a better phone all round. There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One. I'm hoping that the popularity of this phone will mean that the Devs on here will start giving some time to the Galaxy S.
I must admit I was initially drawn towards the Nexus One because of excellent work that has been done by the likes of Cyanogen et al, but I took the long term view that surely the same must eventually happen with the Galaxy S. *crosses fingers*
For the Galaxy, there is MoDaCo. For the Galaxy Spica, there is Samdroid. Don't know much about the others, but they weren't released here in Europe anyway.
I followed Samdroid a while, thinking about getting a Spica. There are some awesome things going on there - they even tried to modify the touchscreen sensor, because the hardware does support multitouch, but the driver doesn't. AFAIK, they had no success, but still nice try. And they even opened a board for the Galaxy S, maybe Leshak fetches one and works some magic there in the future. If not, I am pretty sure somebody will.
If you want to customize it to run the latest roms, the question is: how "open" is this device?
I know that HTC made the Desire a pain in the butt to unlock/root, and they will improve this with every new phone the make, making them more and more secure and block customized images.
Is Samsung going to follow the same strategy?
I think you're right Magicdroid, the question would be how open this is. But even though the Desire was a pain to root, it HAD been rooted just cos there's lots of developers. When there are lots of developers, you'll get rooted device
I wonder if the Galaxy S will get lots of user base.............I just hope lots and lots of ppl will pick it up and then the chance of longetivity with custom ROMS dramatically increases....
I'm hopoing for good community support as well. I have an AT&T Tilt, and have doen well on the XDA site. I'm spoiled
I am very interested in the Galaxy S, but I"m on At&T, and the AT&T version i keep reading about doesn't have the same specs. So having to wait and see on that.
Also, I see a lot of negative feedback on Samsung support, and based on their previous Android phone (Behold I think it's called) is not getting an upgrade. Lots of complaints about being abandonded by Samsung.
Not sure what I'll do. If At&T doesn't get decent phones soon, I mahy have to look do Verizon.
Sorry...I'm rambling off topic.
The Galaxy S looks like a great piece of hardware.
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There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One.
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Hilarious! I just found it and laughed so much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
I was considering to buy a Nexus, but now I changed my mind...someday this mobile will hopefully get root and give enough space for customizations of every kind...just wait and see - it will come in the mid of June to Europe and I'm eager to hold one in my hands
I'm disciplining myself to not get this phone until there's a good team of developers move to it to get customizations going
aaahhh the wait the wait......
and, do you have one jet? the best mod is doctorz rom. it runs very smooth
God damn it. Did you sign up just to necro a thread that's over A YEAR AND A HALF old?
Hey guys, apologies in advance if I'm in the wrong place.
My gf is just about to upgrade her device and wants to go to a droid phone but doesn't want the extra cost to get a galaxy S, but she's determined to stay with a samsung device.
So, we checked out her options, and one offered by t-mo uk is the galaxy apollo. Now, I've never heard of that device, and its not listed here or wikipedia, but there are some reviews that say its running eclair and the model number i5801, which led me to this forum, thinking its a spicia variant(like how the galaxy s has the fascinate and so on)
So yeah, is the apollo an updated spicia or a cut down galaxy S or what ? And how comes no-one seems to be talking about the device. The reviews seem to indicate that it would have launched in the past couple of months but apparently to no great interest.
So yes... I figure that someone here will know what this device actually is and if there is anyone developing for it, or if its just a flash in the pan that isn't worth investing in.
Cheers guys, sorry for rambling!
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well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.
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well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.
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Ah, so its definitely not actually a Spicia device then... Anyone know if it is developed for at all ?
Don't get me started on exactly why she HAS to stay with a samsung device and HAS to stay on her current network. If I could get her a Spicia (i think they call it Portal here) then I would, but alas the choice is between Jet, Wave and Apollo. Since Jet and Wave are basically feature phones with pretensions, at least the Apollo gives her the app store, proper email and internet and well... all the reasons why droid is a good thing .
^ As of now I have not seen any development on the Apollo.
i have Sony X10, Galaxy S, and I5700
Please get Galaxy S, you won't regret it.
it's got one of the best touch screen (sesitivity and accuracy)
I got i5700 as a backup android for my GalaxyS and I can't stand the small screen and screen inacuracy,
worst is Sonyericsson X10.
it's a total garbage.
So, I'm a daily patron on craigslist and as a side hobby I trade phones, I always seem to make a profit if I wait so it's something I do kinda for fun. I have had a recent influx of literally every kind of galaxy S phone there is aside from the Nexus S (which I wouldnt touch with a 10 foot pole.) For example, I posted my HD7 less than 2 hours ago, and have had 13 offers, 4 are unlocked iphones and the remaining 9 have all been captivates or vibrants all offering as much as 150 cash with their phone for an HD7. I mean a couple would be written off as coincidence but literally every offer. I mean I knew these phones were crap the first time I touched the vibrant but it's funny seeing all these media sheep finally realizing they made a bad deal. Samsung has always been the biggest scam artist in the phone world and it's good to see so many people finally realizing it. This just goes to show that HTC is the only way to go
You can't really talk unless you've owned a galaxy s phone. I can tell you from experience the Captivate or Vibrant is anything but a piece of ****. Given, the software sucks but that's why we have xda, right?
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Had a vibrant 3 days, rooted, unlocked, and running the G2 girmware (or a clone). Worst phone I've had since the cliq. The original software was crap (thank you XDA for that save) and the overall plasticky feel of it paired with the buffer overrun issue just killed it. My wife owns a captivate, much better build quality and doesnt seem to have the same buffer issues though I would think it should. XDA has made that phone usable but by default... hardly. I'd still pick an HD2 running android over it any day. Of course this is ffrom someone whos grown tired of android as a whole and the fact that it has to be constantly 'tweaked' just to remain functional but as a former android fanboy, those phones were kinda an embarassment and way overhyped for mediocrity.
I owned a Nexus S for long enough to have an opinion: I'm never buying from Samsung again.
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People that sell out vibrant can't handle vibrant or android imho.Get an iphone and don't even bother with any android.
Vibrant nero v3
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people who buy vibrants are people who do what the media tells them is more individual. Go be a mac user. I'll stick to real android devices manufactured by HTC as they should be.
Had a Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia between jan 2009 and mars 2010 (dropped it in water that killed the Omnia but thank lord not the SIM and memory cards).
Anyone still remember the Samsung marketing of that phone. Well to make a long story short: The i900 never delivered what Samsung promised in their marketing.
Sticking to SonyEricsson now.
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I owned a Nexus S for long enough to have an opinion: I'm never buying from Samsung again.
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but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
How about that?
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but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
How about that?
bR
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hence the reason hes texting from a G2... he obviously gave it up...
I own a Captivate - and other than the crappy OTA OS, non-working GPS, random shutdowns, and the lag... it's a great phone.
But.. thanks to XDA and much tweaking the performance of the phone is better, GPS hobbles along semi working - but the shutdown issue still exists due to hardware and I've been too busy to go get it exchanged.
I wouldn't recommend getting a Samsung phone to anyone. I like mine (when it works) but couldn't recommend it to anyone else.
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but you have a samsung in nexus S, Nexus S was made by Samsung for Google.
How about that?
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I guess you missed the "sent from my G2."
If you were in the UK I may have brought something from ya, I could do with another phone xD
the nexus s is the biggest phone ripoff ive seen in some time ... they took a half year(which is alot in phone life) hardware , gave it an update that everyone is gonna have in a few months anyway , slapped a full price on , and WOW THE NEW NEXUSSSSS !! ppl who fall for that , well i pity them
Wow, everyone is trying to get rid of their Galaxy S...
...Some of us never even had one
some people were so lucky.
I will personally never buy a samsung phone again after owning the moment. The wife has an epic and loves it but i dont care much for it.
That said the latest LG phones have been very nice and i am not a fan of sense so its nice to have options other than htc.
Your average every day person will either think the vibrant is a great phone or a complete fail. I liked my vibrant until I started hearing about the issues and realized they exist. Now, after many modifications, I like it more than any phone out now.
I work with 3 people that own droid x's. Anytime I've asked any of them to play with it, it's had nearly as much lag as my stock vibrant. I owned a g2 for 3 days and mytouch 4g for a week. Those are for people that want a new, fast phone and don't care how it looks or how they look using one. Neither are very physically attractive, they run decent though.
Galaxy S phones were definitely a fail software wise by samsung. Hardware wise, they're still as good as anything else. They aren't for people that want a top phone but don't want to modify it.
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some nnob said he had G2 firmware on his Vibrant... BS! My vibrant is a G2/MT4G/EVO/DroidX killer, screw benchmarks, just take raw performance. Yes I rooted and flashed roms (no lag-fix though) but thats wats so great abiut android.
Now I will say that out of the box it has issues, but so has every phone. (excluding the G1 it was excellent) But I have working gps, night mode imo better than led flash, ffc with all video chat apps working, noled for notifications, full 2.2 with flash 10.1, ect...
The SGS community have made thus phone great. People just have to take advantage.
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well I mean there have been over 10 million galaxy s phones sold, so its understandable that they'd show up on craigslist more. but because of past experiences with Samsung, (ie my mom's moment) I would never trust a Samsung again. should've got her a htc hero.
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everyone says sammy's bad about updating but what about moto and the cliq? htc and the G1 after the mytouch and n1 release? Dell and sony still shipping 1.6? they all sucked. Sammy was smart by concentrating on one device, working the update and allowing the carrier to add tweaks. The phone has been here 6mos max and people are clamoring that they are slow, the phone is still new, and they've dropped updates already for launch day issues. If your unit is defective exchange it, you got a year warranty like the rest of us.
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I'm a long time android user, having used an Evo for about a year (upgraded to ICS), and also playing with the G Nexus. I recently switched to an iPhone 4S just to see how I'd like using iOS, and overall, after a few weeks, I'm pretty pleased with the ease of use and smoothness of it. Siri has turned out to be a nice bonus - it's nice to set reminders, send texts, have messages read to me while driving, etc.
I have an opportunity to trade my 4S for an i9300, and I'm very tempted, as I've always wanted a GS3. Obviously, i'm very familiar with the differences between the two operating systems, but I'm wondering if anyone can give me some input on the GS3, specifically with JB, so that I can better understand this phone and what ownership and daily use would be like.
Anyone else move to the GS3 from an iPhone? Is the GS3 really as awesome as people say it is?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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I'm a long time android user, having used an Evo for about a year (upgraded to ICS), and also playing with the G Nexus. I recently switched to an iPhone 4S just to see how I'd like using iOS, and overall, after a few weeks, I'm pretty pleased with the ease of use and smoothness of it. Siri has turned out to be a nice bonus - it's nice to set reminders, send texts, have messages read to me while driving, etc.
I have an opportunity to trade my 4S for an i9300, and I'm very tempted, as I've always wanted a GS3. Obviously, i'm very familiar with the differences between the two operating systems, but I'm wondering if anyone can give me some input on the GS3, specifically with JB, so that I can better understand this phone and what ownership and daily use would be like.
Anyone else move to the GS3 from an iPhone? Is the GS3 really as awesome as people say it is?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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Don't make the switch yet, as there's only a week to go to the new nexus announcement. While the GS3 is running JB right now there is no guarantee that samsung will update it to KLP once it gets released, and Cyanogenmod is not a viable option without proper documentation from samsung(not as smooth as it should be).
I'm selling my Sgs3 come October 29th.
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I'm a long time android user, having used an Evo for about a year (upgraded to ICS), and also playing with the G Nexus. I recently switched to an iPhone 4S just to see how I'd like using iOS, and overall, after a few weeks, I'm pretty pleased with the ease of use and smoothness of it. Siri has turned out to be a nice bonus - it's nice to set reminders, send texts, have messages read to me while driving, etc.
I have an opportunity to trade my 4S for an i9300, and I'm very tempted, as I've always wanted a GS3. Obviously, i'm very familiar with the differences between the two operating systems, but I'm wondering if anyone can give me some input on the GS3, specifically with JB, so that I can better understand this phone and what ownership and daily use would be like.
Anyone else move to the GS3 from an iPhone? Is the GS3 really as awesome as people say it is?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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Get the iphone 5. It's brilliant (and really big!).
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Don't make the switch yet, as there's only a week to go to the new nexus announcement. While the GS3 is running JB right now there is no guarantee that samsung will update it to KLP once it gets released, and Cyanogenmod is not a viable option without proper documentation from samsung(not as smooth as it should be).
I'm selling my Sgs3 come October 29th.
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Samsung will if they updated the S2 to Jelly Bean.
I would swap if I was in your position.
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Samsung will if they updated the S2 to Jelly Bean.
I would swap if I was in your position.
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S2 is still on ICS, as far as I'm concerned, and just because they promised to update it, doesn't mean they'll actually deliver.
I just don't see the point in buying a non-nexus device anymore unless you like being stuck with an old OS version that is not 100% guaranteed to be updated in the future.
JB is still not available on the non-branded SGS3, and that's a week before the launch of android 4.2, a version of android that our phones are not guaranteed to see until sometime next year, if we are lucky.
gt the s3 lte alot bettrr with 2gb ram
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Get an xperia T instead as it's supports development as contrary to s3 which samsung hasnt releasesed proper source = no good AOSP/CM
Agree with Toss3. S3 lacks proper documentation support at the moment and chances of them releasing the documentation is slim. And with Nexus 4 just around the corner, I'd say you wait a few days n then decide.
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Well i have been using iphone since iphone 3 (4 and 4S included) was released and made switch to sgs3 in september. To tell the truth i like s3 much more phone is describable with only one word: GREAT. And i like it much more than iphone. Especcially now with that apple maps disaster, 2nd important thing no need for dedicated software for sync with pc (i.e. itunes). Just copy paste movies and music from PC. 3rd storage. S3 comes with max 64 gb internal mem and supports 64gb microSD which is double of largest iphone... there are more points but this are main at least for me
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I used to have iPhones (since the first until the 4S).
I sold it and i took a S3.
No regret so far ! I love tweaking everything and trying different ROMS !
I bought my S3 outright quite a few months before my contract was due for renewal. My renewal since arrived and I opted for the iPhone 5, I used it for less than 24 hours before sending it back.
WAY too many apps that I use on my S3 have not yet been adapted to the iPhone 5, which considering I had to pay for them was pretty shocking. Also vs my S3 using SwiftKey, typing on it was a ball ache.
I can't deny thought that it does look nice, and then you turn it on
I'll probably wait to renew and go for the next Nexus device.
Phil
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Well i have been using iphone since iphone 3 (4 and 4S included) was released and made switch to sgs3 in september. To tell the truth i like s3 much more phone is describable with only one word: GREAT. And i like it much more than iphone. Especcially now with that apple maps disaster, 2nd important thing no need for dedicated software for sync with pc (i.e. itunes). Just copy paste movies and music from PC. 3rd storage. S3 comes with max 64 gb internal mem and supports 64gb microSD which is double of largest iphone... there are more points but this are main at least for me
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I can add more as well, like customization right from get go no need to JB, true widgets on screen and not just bland rows of icons, have a nandroid backup and not have to worry about screwing up modding and losing everything since in matter of few mins you can restore your last backup, unlike backup u do on itunes and lose half of the stuff and then spend half a day trying to recover or reinstall apps and games and still lose the save progress.
Yes i'm a jumper from iPhone4 32gb and dreaded every FW upgrade but on Android platform u can just peform complete formation of system and reinstall the o/s or back up from your extSD card without even hooking to a pc.
For me it was a good jump after using iphone 4 since 2010 but now i can hardly stand my wife's 4s after jumping ship in MAY. I think if you go with the newer iteration of S3 International Specs but with LTE and 2GB then you have a winner. Dont' bother with el cheapo nexus devices as the software on S3 is amazing barring TW, smart stay, smart alerts, briefing alarm, smart call and tons of other touches which makes it so simple to use and i feel withdrawal when using my other android phone.
I have bought the s3 and i'me very satisfied. IOS is far away from Android.
I am a dual user of an old 3S and a SG3. Basically I find IOS excellent for work and normal use: telephone, music, messaging, etc. One can just use it - from kids to oldies. ..
My SG3 is great to install roms und play around with android. There are however lots of bad and underperforming apps. I would not recommend it to my mother. ..
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I forgot to specify that the GS3 i would trade for is not compatible with LTE on ATT, and only works on edge on TMobile, or at least that's what I *think*. This bothers me a bit, even though I use straight talk and AT&T's HSPA service is fast enough for me. I would like to know that I could go to Tmobile if i wanted to, but with this phone, I cannot.
And as some mentioned, with the new Galaxy Nexus being announced soon, and the pricing bound to be reasonable on it like the current nexus, it may make sense to just hold on to my iphone 4S (as its value is still high) and wait it out. The GS3 values are bound to drop faster than the iphone's.
I would like to share my opinion here. Its you who has to choose. If you want to do a lot more with your phone then i suggest you get S3. I have used iphone and i personally din find it better than android. Customizations are only limited to your imagination in android. I daily use a new ui. I love to customize my phone, and S3 bags some serious speed and is extremely smooth compared to 4S
S3 is samsungs flagship device, i'm pretty sure that they will release KlP. I would switch if i was in your position.
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As I think iPhone is a not king, but the very unique phone...it's like a bmw 7...it's for business men...sgs3 is like bmw m6..it's quickly like a lightning...in my case I'll changed my sgs3 with carbon cover to iPhone 4s. Because I need something new, and want bmw 7
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As I think iPhone is a not king, but the very unique phone...it's like a bmw 7...it's for business men...sgs3 is like bmw m6..it's quickly like a lightning...in my case I'll changed my sgs3 with carbon cover to iPhone 4s. Because I need something new, and want bmw 7
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iphone is more like a honda civic with automatic transmission, its a good A to B car. But the SGS3 is a whole new different animal packed with horse power, at times it night give you trouble from A to B but its hell lot more joy on the road.
each to their own.
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You have Google now on JB, which its better than Siri. You can view them compared on YouTube. You will therefore be able to set your schedules by voice, and even command navigation to a destination.
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It's all about what you want from your phone. You'll probably have biased awnsers if you come to this forum with this question,
That said, i can easily say, from using both i prefer the S3. Not going to discuss looks, that's the least important thing i'd want in a phone and it's totally up to your taste, which i assume it's not a decisive factor since you're considering the s3. Looks aside, the iphone is everything it ever was. The S3 isn't. It's SO much more. Touchwiz is actually very good, it's there to help you do everything in an easy way. Very customizable in just about any way, has gestures integrated to do every sort of things , ex: double tapping the top of the phone to go to get to the top of the list of your emails in the email app, turn to unlock, smart stay (this one's brilliant i love it), change of keyboards (i can't even imagine me using anything but swype), sms managers, shortcuts in notifications (wifi, bt, gps, data, rotate, driving mode, etc), power saving modes, svoice, i could be here all day.
Honestly, it's just too different and far better imo.
Your call thought, i wouldn't even think about it.
I bought 2 droid turbos with verizon edge. I traded in my iphone 5 phones as part of the transaction. Anyone know what happens if I try to return my droid turbos? I'm wishing I had waiting for the Nexus 6.
I know I will own $70 in restock fees (2 x $35) but not sure how the rest will go.
I'm wondering the same thing. I want my G2 back so badly. The idle drain, capacitive buttons, poor wifi, and lack of simultaneous data and talk driving me crazy. Let's not even talk about root...
pbmpharmacist said:
I bought 2 droid turbos with verizon edge. I traded in my iphone 5 phones as part of the transaction. Anyone know what happens if I try to return my droid turbos? I'm wishing I had waiting for the Nexus 6.
I know I will own $70 in restock fees (2 x $35) but not sure how the rest will go.
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I highly doubt they will give you the phone back. I'm sure they will give you a gift card for the value of the phones, minus the restocking fees.
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So here's what will happen. Of course the restock fee. You will not get your iphones back. Assuming your trade in value of the iPhones was above $100, you should receive a gift card/account credit with the value of those trade in's or can put it towards a phone when returning the Turbos. If you are going to wait you will have to find some interim phones.
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So here's what will happen. Of course the restock fee. You will not get your iphones back. Assuming your trade in value of the iPhones was above $100, you should receive a gift card/account credit with the value of those trade in's or can put it towards a phone when returning the Turbos. If you are going to wait you will have to find some interim phones.
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that's very useful, thanks
If you return the phone within the return period you don't get hit with the restock fee unless you exchange it. Told this by a rep
You have 14 days to give it back. If you do it, in that timeframe, all is well. If you go outside of it, sheet hits the fan. In less than a month we will have VoLTE and Lollipop. SO I was told. Data and voice at same time will be fixed and you get the new OS.. boom
Root, however, is another story.. patiently waiting
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You have 14 days to give it back. If you do it, in that timeframe, all is well. If you go outside of it, sheet hits the fan. In less than a month we will have VoLTE and Lollipop. SO I was told. Data and voice at same time will be fixed and you get the new OS.. boom
Root, however, is another story.. patiently waiting
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I think my wife is going to return tomorrow so I'll get rid of it in less than a week. That'll work. I really don't care about Data and voice at same time, that's a "neutral" on my big ass list of reasons I want out of this phone.
pbmpharmacist said:
I think my wife is going to return tomorrow so I'll get rid of it in less than a week. That'll work. I really don't care about Data and voice at same time, that's a "neutral" on my big ass list of reasons I want out of this phone.
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Why do you want out?
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Why do you want out?
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OK well since you asked I'll list out my likes and hates. Keep in mind I'm coming from an iPhone 5 (which my wife forced me into). I put my foot down and demanded Android this time but I'm really hating this phone. I wanted a Nexus 6 but after cutting out a model out of cardboard I realized it didn't fit very well in my front pants pocket and that was without a case so that's why I tried this phone.
I like:
- the size and form factor
- the google software (except for the music app and the fact gmail must be separate from other email)
- the battery
- the free screen replacement (x1)
- the speed (after I disabled about 20 apps)
I'm neutral on:
- the screen (kind of dark and not loving the colors)
- no data and voice simultaneously
I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
pbmpharmacist said:
I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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You can disable a lot of the bloat apps if you go into the app management settings
Camera might improve with software update or another app, but this is a personal preference thing for sure
Wifi issues would definitely bug me. Haven't personally noticed anything, but I've had my phone for lass than 24 hours
I'll test out my bluetooth, thanks for the heads up!
As for manufacturer software enhancements, this is as slim as it gets (aside from a Nexus device with pure vanilla android). Only other option is to go back to apple I think. Or wait for root/roms etc.
Not sure about voicemail issues, been a VZW customer for >10 years and it's always been fine.
You can use different text apps. Try the one w/ green icon, not the stupid red verizon one.
pbmpharmacist said:
OK well since you asked I'll list out my likes and hates. Keep in mind I'm coming from an iPhone 5 (which my wife forced me into). I put my foot down and demanded Android this time but I'm really hating this phone. I wanted a Nexus 6 but after cutting out a model out of cardboard I realized it didn't fit very well in my front pants pocket and that was without a case so that's why I tried this phone.
I like:
- the size and form factor
- the google software (except for the music app and the fact gmail must be separate from other email)
- the battery
- the free screen replacement (x1)
- the speed (after I disabled about 20 apps)
I'm neutral on:
- the screen (kind of dark and not loving the colors)
- no data and voice simultaneously
I hate:
- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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That's fair. The Wi-Fi and stuff will probably be fixed in an update. Bloat can be disabled in the application manager. You can customize your experience quite a lot including using any app you want for any activity, unlike iPhone. I recommend textra
rlb81 said:
You can disable a lot of the bloat apps if you go into the app management settings
Camera might improve with software update or another app, but this is a personal preference thing for sure
Wifi issues would definitely bug me. Haven't personally noticed anything, but I've had my phone for lass than 24 hours
I'll test out my bluetooth, thanks for the heads up!
As for manufacturer software enhancements, this is as slim as it gets (aside from a Nexus device with pure vanilla android). Only other option is to go back to apple I think. Or wait for root/roms etc.
Not sure about voicemail issues, been a VZW customer for >10 years and it's always been fine.
You can use different text apps. Try the one w/ green icon, not the stupid red verizon one.
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I have 20+ apps disabled, but i appreciate the heads up.
The wifi and bluetooth problems are pretty major for me (speakerphone too since i use that a lot). My wifes droid turbo has the same wifi issues as mine but no bluetooth issues so far.
pbmpharmacist said:
I have 20+ apps disabled, but i appreciate the heads up.
The wifi and bluetooth problems are pretty major for me (speakerphone too since i use that a lot). My wifes droid turbo has the same wifi issues as mine but no bluetooth issues so far.
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Just wanted to throw it out there in case you weren't aware. You had to know that people would try to rebut your dislikes Good luck with the return, let us know how it goes! I started Edge yesterday and the VZW guy couldn't really give a good answer on how the return process works. Hopefully I won't need it....
rlb81 said:
Just wanted to throw it out there in case you weren't aware. You had to know that people would try to rebut your dislikes Good luck with the return, let us know how it goes! I started Edge yesterday and the VZW guy couldn't really give a good answer on how the return process works. Hopefully I won't need it....
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Honestly I do appreciate the feedback. But yeah, a lot of people love their droid turbos so they don't want anyone to bash it. I get it. I tend to defend what I like too. I'm going to try to send my wife out for the return today, she's kind and patient and her returns seems to go smoother than when I do them.
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- all the bloat (the Verizon software, amazon software, etc)
- the camera (slow and takes pretty bad pictures IMO)
- the wifi range/stability (getting drop outs on my top floor, never had that before)
- the bluetooth (getting drop outs in my car, never had that before)
- all the moto software (the moto voice software constantly stops playing whenever I have music on bc it thinks it's me talking.)
- low sound volume (although better after disabling audio effects)
- speakerphone (getting an echo, never had that before)
- lack of real voice mail (seriously WTF with Verizon voice mail)
- verizon text messages (couldn't figure out how to text pictures with anything else although I didn't spend much time on it)
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Instead of me telling you how to fix these issues, because they can be fixed or will be addressed with updates...
Tell me what phone you would get as an alternative and I will give you my opinions on that or at least the differences. Because everything you listed will not only be a problem on a lot of phones, but even worse in some cases.
Andromjb said:
Instead of me telling you how to fix these issues, because they can be fixed or will be addressed with updates...
Tell me what phone you would get as an alternative and I will give you my opinions on that or at least the differences. Because everything you listed will not only be a problem on a lot of phones, but even worse in some cases.
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Well I WOULD have gladly taken a Nexus 6... but my wife needs a working phone right now not whenever google actually gets product shipped so she left with the droid turbo and is coming back with iphone 6. Plus they simply made the Nexus 6 too large. But even though it's too big I'd still take one right now if I could get one.
There are a lot of complaints about the wifi and I seriously doubt that can be fixed. The wifi is worse than my cheap work lenovo laptop that my employer hands out to everyone. Maybe the other issues will eventually be fixed but it's possible there will NEVER be root on these phones and that's what everyone needs.
If I had to do it over again, I'd have hung on to my iphone 5 and I would have bought an HTC One M9 in March/April but that ship has sailed.
pbmpharmacist said:
Well I WOULD have gladly taken a Nexus 6... but my wife needs a working phone right now not whenever google actually gets product shipped so she left with the droid turbo and is coming back with iphone 6.
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Figures you would post the one phone I cannot help you with, lol! I'm not an iPhone user, it's just a blatantly overpriced piece of hardware.
My opinion, however, is that you're exchanging a device that lacks a well rounded camera in terms of software for one that offers more functionality in terms of software..
Internally, Android just wins. Hands down. Sure, the iPhone has a great camera & a 64 bit SoC. But take those two things away and nothing inside is truly "revolutionary" at all. It's been done before, years ago, nothing new or substantial other than the fact that Apple has finally caught up in display offerings.
Nexus 6 is definitely going to be one of a kind, but I don't think the battery is going to be great imho. I'm reserving my opinions on the camera for now. I do think the signal strength will be good, as Motorola implemented a great design around the band and the plastic back won't obscure signals.
I'm sorry your Turbo experience wasn't a pleasurable one for your personal needs.
Andromjb said:
Figures you would post the one phone I cannot help you with, lol! I'm not an iPhone user, it's just a blatantly overpriced piece of hardware.
My opinion, however, is that you're exchanging a device that lacks a well rounded camera in terms of software for one that offers more functionality in terms of software..
Internally, Android just wins. Hands down. Sure, the iPhone has a great camera & a 64 bit SoC. But take those two things away and nothing inside is truly "revolutionary" at all. It's been done before, years ago, nothing new or substantial other than the fact that Apple has finally caught up in display offerings.
Nexus 6 is definitely going to be one of a kind, but I don't think the battery is going to be great imho. I'm reserving my opinions on the camera for now. I do think the signal strength will be good, as Motorola implemented a great design around the band and the plastic back won't obscure signals.
I'm sorry your Turbo experience wasn't a pleasurable one for your personal needs.
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Yeah the short of it as a married man this was my chance to convert my wife (she insists that we have the same phone so that I can help her figure things out) to Android and there are simply too many problems with this phone. Nothing was easy or simple, even stuff like Voice Mail, Bluetooth streaming, wifi, texting. Those are basic things that my iPhone 5 was better at. I'm honestly shocked.
I knew there would be bloatware and I disabled it. I still don't think carriers should be able to load that **** on peoples phones and then keep people from deleting it. I think that's a huge problem for Android to overcome. I think Google is headed in the right direction with the Nexus 6... but it's not available yet.
Maybe down the road I can try again... with a Nexus device
Ya, I can imagine it being a big disappointment. The last thing you want to give your wife or anyone in general is a bad first experience.
If you are seeking the best Android experience possible than you should definitely get a Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Moto X 2014, or the M8 Google Play Edition. They all run vanilla Android out of the box with zero bloat and will give you the quickest Android updates available.