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I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.
Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.
I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.
:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
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I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
TaFFeR said:
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.
I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.
Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore
I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.
Android 2.1 currently has an issue with image compression for MMS. The default sms/mms client in Android does compress images, but it doesnt compress enough. It compresses all images so that it has a maximum image size of 2592x1944. However, for many carriers, the file size limit is around 300kb which will make you unable to send the MMS.
Luckily, there is a quick and easy way to manually edit the max sending size value..
I posted a quick guide here
Cyanogen is solving this issue in the next version of his Android ROM, but for everyone who wants a fix now or dont use Cyanogen, this guide should solve your issues
This would require root, right?
Yes it will I think, as you need root in order to push the mms.apk back in as far as i know
I wonder if T-Mobile USA has that limitation.
Does anybody know, if some carriers have a recieving MMS size limitation ?
I dont think Ive heard of a MMS receiving size limit anywhere, so dont think there is one..
How is this done in a Sense Rom? My Evo port for the HD2 doesn't have a "mms_config.xml" file..
Thanks
my n1 camera is set to take photos in 1600x1200 only (2mp?). I find that any higher is pointless because you are limitedby the low quality sensor/optics... so you are just wasting resources by using 5mp. also, a higher mp setting usually adds more noise.
Dont handcent and chomp resize automatically ?
Also let you choose max size.
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
WOW!
Thanks....Been wondering about this.
Every single U.S. carrier does transcoding on the MMSC level. Sending a larger quality file is not going to impact the picture that you receive on the other handset after the MMSC transcodes it past a certain point.
robotnoize said:
Thanks....Been wondering about this.
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Glad you found it useful!
And to the one who asked how to do it in Sense, I have no idea, as HTC's messaging app differs from the stock one.
krazichinaman said:
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
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T-Mobile i think went up to 1MB max size but AT&T uses 600KB. Most other carriers are only 300KB (maybe 350KB) still however however.
I generally lower the resolution of my photos too for exactly that reason. No point in sending "5mp" images for people to view on a ".3 - .8mp" screen. I figured 2-3mp is good enough to save to email later on or view on the PC as well as send via MMS.
Everytime I push the mms.apk back to my phone my messaging apps just fc's and won't oppen. Any suggestions?
Since installing whatsapp, stopped using sms and mms, other than replying incomings, no worries on mms size limitations anymore...
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Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
thanks4_NOTHING said:
Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
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Attention Moderator,
this thread is no longet relevant, and the op link go's to a malware factory...
Request link removal and thread closed
I have read all over these forums that many are having issues sending MMS's.
I have tried numerous android builds. Darkstone's builds are my favorite. I am using a T9193 on ATT in the USA. And I have never successfully sent an MMS. I can receive them.
While doing a speedtest to check my speeds with the new darkstone froyo v2.1 I got on average 1400 down and 15 up. I believe all builds have issues with very slow upload speeds. There lies the issue.
When I attempt to send a 300k pic through MMS the message times out and cannot be sent. Most of us have seen the forever sending but never sends issue. So I attempted to send a 10k pic through MMS. And what do you know, it sent. So I tried another and it sent. If you could keep the larger MMS from timing out they would eventually send.
So the issue is not that we have incorrect APN or MMS settings, it is that the upload speed is just too low at the moment. So when the devs get our upload speed fixxed we will all be able to send MMS messages through android. I hope this sheds some light on the subject of MMS messages not sending.
To answer my own post. After I successfully sent the small 10k messages, I can now send larger MMS messages quickly. What is up with that?
Edit: the new larger MMS pics were not larger in size. They were png images which were also about 10k. False hope.
aye this actually worked lol
interesting. so wifi would be better if we try to send a larger pic mms?
Seems to make no difference when using wifi. I tried to send a 300k mms using wifi but it was "sending" for an hour before I finally cancelled it myself. Quite possibly at least with ATT that MMS messages send over cellular data anyways.
I've also got issues sending mm messages except I'm on t mobile and using at mobile issued HD2.
I'm using mattc's 1.5b build and both incoming and outgoing messages are capped to 8kb.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Mine receive and send fine. I'm on T-Mobile using darkstone v2.1
Sent from my HD2 running Froyo.
Agoattamer said:
I have read all over these forums that many are having issues sending MMS's.
I have tried numerous android builds. Darkstone's builds are my favorite. I am using a T9193 on ATT in the USA. And I have never successfully sent an MMS. I can receive them.
While doing a speedtest to check my speeds with the new darkstone froyo v2.1 I got on average 1400 down and 15 up. I believe all builds have issues with very slow upload speeds. There lies the issue.
When I attempt to send a 300k pic through MMS the message times out and cannot be sent. Most of us have seen the forever sending but never sends issue. So I attempted to send a 10k pic through MMS. And what do you know, it sent. So I tried another and it sent. If you could keep the larger MMS from timing out they would eventually send.
So the issue is not that we have incorrect APN or MMS settings, it is that the upload speed is just too low at the moment. So when the devs get our upload speed fixxed we will all be able to send MMS messages through android. I hope this sheds some light on the subject of MMS messages not sending.
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i'm with you. i'm on att and i can't send, receive is completely fine. i'll try sending a small pic and seeing if it works
EDIT: just tried a 39.2KB pic and no go..........THEN tried a < 5KB pic and BOOM! sent!
EDIT 2: still can't send anything over 10KB even after multiple sends. definitely has to do with upload speed and/or latency
i cant remember where i saw it...but there was one of the devs that enabled ppp data in the smd1 and this was supposedly making data work perfectly..no packet loss at all up or down. This was awhile back and dont know why this feature never got implemented in any of the builds. I bet this would fix our problem. I'm gonna do some searching and see if i can find what im talking about here..lol
*edit* Here is the link, dont know how we can get our hands on this: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/...it;h=2e866a70a6eea4a9a31d4954572ba100151513d5
I had issues with sending MMS until I deleted the appropriate APN and recreated it. Even though the settings appeared to be identical.
It's worth a shot if you haven't already tried it.
My friend has an iPhone 4. When he sends me a pic through mms i get "your phone is not compatible with this message type or size. portions of this message will not be displayed". he is just sending a picture he took not anything else. i reboot and ask him to resend and still no luck. the only thing that does work is when he zooms in on the pic then takes a screenshot of it then sends it to me.
Does anyone know why this happens? its pretty annoying.
i attached a screenshot of how it looks
Lol, check the size of pictures. I think mms only supports 640x to 320x
I have this probleme too when I send one mms picture to a old phone. I resize and works
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Maybe try a different sms app like GoSMS? That's what I've been using and haven't had any issues with mms... plus it allows me to zoom into pictures which the stock text messaging app wouldn't allow.
That makes sense. It would be great if there wasn't any ristriction. Or like if would automatically resize the picture before it revives or something lol.
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I also use handcent. It gives me the same problem. I'm gonna try the application you mentioned. Hopefully it works for me.
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Interesting.... I've received pictures from my brothers iPhone 4 just fine. That's using the stock text messaging app.
So everytime I get a mms the picture wants to open is slideshow, which is really annoying. Has anyone found a way to make it open in gallery like normal? I don't want to long press and save and all that. I just want it to open in gallery when I touch it.
Same happened if I try to send a pic. It never sends and when I click on pic it opens like it is a video.
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i downloaded handcent for just opening and sending pictures, it doesnt compress them as much when sending them as well. test it yourself, send a pic to yourself, see how low the quality is, now send a pic to yourself with handcent
I wondered if it was me only! Had the same issue. I had been using handcent for almost a year and thought I'd try the 'messaging' app as I like the split screen in landscape mode. . . Because of this wired slide show issue and the white background setting never really working and the inconsistent send issue (with mms) I switched back to handcent.
Works well! Note: I had one or two mms no send issues with handcent (overall huge reduction from 'messaging' - which was near 99%) - I added '80' as my mms port in apn settings. . . I don't think I have had a send hang since.
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