My friend was testing out my phone and decided to put his Bell sim card into my "unlocked" T-Mobile HD2. The problem we couldn't figure out was why the phone wouldn't get any signal what so ever and even configured my phone to Bell Mobility settings.
I use Energy's Rom and changed some of the Band/Network setting but that didn't seem to work.
Any suggestions?
Tmo HD2 uses normal gsm and 1700/2100 hsdpa aka aws, bell does not support that. Wind mobile uses aws (which is what i am using with my hd2) all though you should get a roaming signal.
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I know in Energy's Rom there is an option to change the 3G bands from like 850+1900 and stuff, shouldn't that work?
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Is that Bell SIM card for a prepaid account? If so that's why it doesn't work. Prepaid cell services don't work the same way as regular ones, and have to use specially configured devices in order to gain a signal.
Thanks for the replies! Yes i think the Bell Sim Card is a prepaid account one. The probably explains the problems we were having.
What are some carriers that are confirmed to work with the T-Mobile HTC HD2? Rogers, Fido?, Wind?, Mobilicity?
Also want to know if i'm using Rogers would the 3G capability work. I am currently using Energy's Rom.
Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.
I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.
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Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.
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your wrong the Prepaid part, most prepaid cards do work like At&t, some dont work if they are like the ones sold by wallmart, but ANy GSM Sim card should work. i tried it on AT&T, VODAFONE AND AIRTEL
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I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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Those options are there in all of his roms, but the phone doesnt have the hardware to support it
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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.
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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.
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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.
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yeah but only If Rogers supports 2100 cuz i dont think they do but i could be wrong
Im using prepaid on wind mobile both voice and data.
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Won't work. Bell (and Telus, Virgin, Koodo, Solo) only has 850/1900 HSPA... which this phone doesn't.
Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron have 1700 AWS so this phone will work with them, ditto for Rogers and Fido but in 2G mode only (since they have 850/1900 GSM)
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so, i tried my mothers rogers sim card and my EURO hero works fine. I could not get my newly activated telus sim card to work in my hero though, it has the right bands, there site says it should work too!
does anyone else have a euro hero on telus?
how did you get it working!?
I appreciate any and all help! thank you!
ps i had a rooted hero with modaco 2.9 and my own theme.. but i thought updating to the latest ruu from htc would fix it but apparently it didnt!
also when i go into menu - settings-wireless controls-mobile network settings-network operators-search networks... i only get rogers wireless and no telus.. so i went driving (passsenger seat lol) to see if i just wasnt getting reception... but no matter where i went i did not get service...
also i called telus and they said there network is fine and that my sim card is activated..
my phone has popped up a few times "telus : temp. me error" or something like that too
urghh, i bought an unlocked phone... but i never tried a sim card till after i updated to the newest ruu from htc... maybe its not totally unlocked?
although it works on rogers! but arnt they roaming partners? maybe thats why it works on rogers?
idk im pretty sure bell has the new network too, and they dont show up on my phone either:\
please helpp!
k now i have used flash rec to get the recovery image, installed t-mobile image because the telus check to see if my phone will work said it was from there even though it was "unbranded and unlocked" but when i pop my telus sim there is nothing saying that the network is locked or anything :s
urgh i will try a replacement sim tomorrow hopefully!
still would appreciate any info anyone has!
Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?
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Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unfortunately the Euro HTC Hero will not work on Telus or Bell. Telus and Bell's new HSPA networks only work with phones that can support HSPA 850/1900. The North American HTC Hero (sold by Telus) has these bands. The Euro HTC Hero only supports HSPA 900/2100 (i.e. any 3G networks outside of North America). The reason you can see Rogers is because Rogers has GSM support (the Euro HTC Hero can only work on GSM networks in Canada - Rogers or Fido only).
I wish I had better news, but I'm afraid you'll need to purchase a North American HTC Hero (if you wish to use Bell or Telus' HSPA network), or alternatively, another cell phone that supports HSPA 850/1900.
but i read from htc site
HSPA/WCDMA:
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900/2100 MHz
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Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
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850/900/1800/1900 MHz
and telus site
Runs on 1900/850 MHz frequency bands and uses standard 3GPP SIM cards
so techinically i just cant get 3g, but i cant even get voice/text working
and im on pay as you go anyways
wait so your saying telus doesnt have anything but hspa and 3g going to their sim cards?
there website even says my phone is compatible! (after referencing my imei!)
it has to woork! i dont wanna use rogers.. even though thats who i originally planned on using before knowing telus was getting this network
It wont work.
timmacnaughton is right.
The euro Hero only has 2100 HSPA bands, which are not used in North America, Bellus uses 850/1900 (same as Rogers) for the HSPA network, however, the reason your phone is working on Rogers is because its on Edge (2G). Bellus doesnt have 2G to fallback on, only a 3G network.
2G bands are considered world frequencies, anywhere you go, if the carrier is GSM your phone will work with 2G, they use different bands but GSM phone are all quad-band 2G ready
So in all in all.. the european Hero will work on Rogers but Edge only and wont work at all on Bellus (Bell & Telus)
The best way to know if another device will work on Bellus, if you come from Rogers is just to see if you can use 3G on it. If your device cannot use 3G on Rogers, it wont work on Bellus.
ohh thats wierd, i thought telus was doing this because of the olympics, and if most people work on 2100, then they wont be able to use telus in which case they wont get the traffic from the olypmics :s
Lol, no.
Roaming contracts have been signed and delt with for a long time. Besides, Bellus's network cant even be used by a euro phone so yeah.
Anything that is roaming GSM will be on Rogers. even US phones, AT&T has a contract with Rogers for roaming.. in fact every GSM carrier has a contract with Rogers, they own roaming in canada for GSM. bling bling?!
Hello, I bought my unlock code on ebay for my AT&T Pure, great deal for under $4.00. I am using it with T-mobile U.S.A. but I don't seem to get 3G. Is that normal? (or is it like the G1 issue that doesn't get 3G on AT&T?)
Besides that, Is the T-mobile's HTC TouchPro2 rom compatible with the Pure? If so, how can I CID unlock my pure in order to accept the rom?
Thanks
domenicostorino said:
Hello, I bought my unlock code on ebay for my AT&T Pure, great deal for under $4.00. I am using it with T-mobile U.S.A. but I don't seem to get 3G. Is that normal? (or is it like the G1 issue that doesn't get 3G on AT&T?)
Besides that, Is the T-mobile's HTC TouchPro2 rom compatible with the Pure? If so, how can I CID unlock my pure in order to accept the rom?
Thanks
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You may want to try some different radios for your 3G issue.
As far as your ROM, a TP2 ROM would not work on a TD2, If you want to flash a TD2 ROM, I suggest reading the flashing guide on the Wiki for instructions on Hard SPL.
I see, but a touchpro2 rom won't work because I have to hard spl first? or because it is just no compatible? and also, where can I get a working radio for my 3g?
You will never get T-Mobile 3G on a Pure. It lacks the radio spectrum. AT&T and TMobile use different 3G frequency bands.
You cannot use a rom built from another device. A Rhodium rom won't flash on your Topaz rom.
You have an AT&T Specific device built for use on AT&T's network. You can flash other compatible RADIOS if you unlock it (which won't magically give you Tmobile 3G), but you'll brick your phone if you flash the wrong rom on it.
Maybe you can sell the Pure on ebay or craiglist and buy a Tmobile Rhodium.
"You can flash other compatible RADIOS if you unlock it (which won't magically give you Tmobile 3G), but you'll brick your phone if you flash the wrong rom on it."
so when you say that... is there a possibility that I can flash a compatible radio that wont brick my phone and get 3G?
No radio flash will solve your problem. TMO 3G compatibility is a hardware issue, not software problem you can solve.
There are plenty of TD2 ROMs here, so you should have enough selection. Make sure you do HSPL first before try any ROM.
T mobile uses 3g 1700
t mobile uses 3g 1700 frequency and at&t uses 3g 850 or 3g 1900
htc pure only supports 3g 850 and 3g 1900
I am trying to understand what the difference is between the frequencies that are used for 3G data for AT&T vs carriers like TMobile and Cincinnati Bell Wireless (CBW) and the specs I see on GSMArena such as "3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100".
Phone from Cincinnati Bell and TMobile are compatible on both networks as far as 3G data is concerned but neither apparently work with AT&T (and visa-versa).
If AT&T uses 850 or 1900 then that fits with the specs I reference above. If T Mobile uses 1700/2100 and requires both bands to work then I get why the above specs don't work as 1700 is missing. I think Cincinnati Bell is also 1700/2100 and assuming it required both I would understand.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S (aka vibrant) from CBW that is listed on GSMArena as "3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100" and for which operates on CBWs network as 3G. CBWs website advertises the phone as running 900/2100 which fits the specs as well.
I tried using an AT&T phone with specs "3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100" which I see as a "super set" of the Samsungs but can not get 3G. Is it possible that AT&T does something to lock out the 900 and 2100 since it does not use them and that somehow they can be turned on so the phone will work with another network?
I just bought a My Touch 3G Slide on eBay. I got it unlocked in an hour using cellunlock.net for $10 and got it all setup. However, now I'm noticing that it never goes into 3G, just EDGE.
I searched to find if it could even work with Rogers' 3G network and I'm even more confused. So does it work with Rogers' 3G?
I've also seen posts that it works on HSPA. I've used the APNs for Rogers' HSPA and still I'm getting just EDGE. Do I have to update my radio, use CM6 or something?
Sorry, I'm new to the MT3GS. I have a MT3G/Magic and I thought the new one would be pretty much the same except with a keyboard.
I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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I *think* that Roger's uses the AT&T bands for 3G, not T-Mobile. Sorry.
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thats correct, Att and Rodgers uses the 1900mhz band and the mt3gs only has the 1700 NA band and the 850/2100mhz EU bands
That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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That sucks. So it won't work on HSPA either then? I though Rogers offers one of those USB modems that works on 2100MHz HSPDA. Will that work with the MT3GS?
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It has the 2100mhz band, but that is so you can have 3G when you go to europe. Rogers only broadcasts 1900mhz in CA.
Damn. Oh well, my wife won't know the difference between EDGE and 3G anyway. Thanks.
sorry i don't belong in this forum but how do you guys explain the g1 having 3g then its a tmobile phone does it have a att frequency for no reason?
Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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Rogers actually sold G1s so they probably got their own version that will work on their network.
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unlocked g1's from the US work on rogers network.
Beats me. The myTouch 3G Slide I got from the US works too just not on 3G but on Edge.
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OK, I finally get that the frequency band is a hardware thing and that Rogers and T-Mobile use different bands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So is it possible to change the actual cell phone radio chip and write a ROM that will work with it? I realize it's crazy, but with all the Android development going on, you'd think someone would have tired to get some device that only worked with T-Mobile to work on At&t.
Hey guys,
Looking at pre-ordering the unlocked version of the DVP from Clove but I'm not sure whether it is going to work in Canada =/.
I've looked at all the Canadian cell phone providers (Telus, Fido, Bell, Rogers) and it doesn't seem like they are compatible with the 3G band on the Dell Venue Pro (900/2100).
Canadian providers seem to require 850/1900 or 1700.
So uh...is it worth buying the phone? Anyone think it will work?
Does the phone need to be 3G compatible to work? (Telus seems to say that your phone NEEDS to be 3G+ compatible).
Thanks,
-Sean
Se4nH4x said:
Hey guys,
Looking at pre-ordering the unlocked version of the DVP from Clove but I'm not sure whether it is going to work in Canada =/.
I've looked at all the Canadian cell phone providers (Telus, Fido, Bell, Rogers) and it doesn't seem like they are compatible with the 3G band on the Dell Venue Pro (900/2100).
Canadian providers seem to require 850/1900 or 1700.
So uh...is it worth buying the phone? Anyone think it will work?
Does the phone need to be 3G compatible to work? (Telus seems to say that your phone NEEDS to be 3G+ compatible).
Thanks,
-Sean
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NOP.. it wont work.. it works but no 3g u would pick EDGE.. UK are 900/2100
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NOP.. it wont work.. it works but no 3g u would pick EDGE.. UK are 900/2100
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is 3G necessary for smartphones?
I've never had a smartphone before. right now I'm just using an old flip phone.
Would the phone need to have 3G in order for me to bring it to a carrier and add a sim card + plan?
Se4nH4x said:
is 3G necessary for smartphones?
I've never had a smartphone before. right now I'm just using an old flip phone.
Would the phone need to have 3G in order for me to bring it to a carrier and add a sim card + plan?
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Yea, 3G would be pretty much a necessity, as the next best available connection you would get is edge, which is much slower.
For $989 this site claims to have a Telstra NextG compatible version up for grabs:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
I have been using a Telstra HD2 on Telus which gives me 3G+ for a while so I would assume this one would also work. But then again I could be wrong as the bands don't look right..
So it does work if i only use for 2G cell phone service with Fido (no internet), right?
I can use WIFI only.
pistol44 said:
For $989 this site claims to have a Telstra NextG compatible version up for grabs:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
I have been using a Telstra HD2 on Telus which gives me 3G+ for a while so I would assume this one would also work. But then again I could be wrong as the bands don't look right..
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That phone has 900/1900/2100 3G bands which is not supported in Canada.
You need 850 or 1700 for it to work in Canada >.>
Se4nH4x said:
That phone has 900/1900/2100 3G bands which is not supported in Canada.
You need 850 or 1700 for it to work in Canada >.>
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no your wroung,
you need 850/1900 UMTS/HSPA if you want to use rogers, fido, bell, telus, virgin, koodo, on 3g
you need 850/1900 GSM if you want to use rogers/fido with no 3g
if you want to use wind mobile you need 1700/2100 UMTS/HSPA (same as t-mobile)
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no your wroung,
you need 850/1900 UMTS/HSPA if you want to use rogers, fido, bell, telus, virgin, koodo, on 3g
you need 850/1900 GSM if you want to use rogers/fido with no 3g
if you want to use wind mobile you need 1700/2100 UMTS/HSPA (same as t-mobile)
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well my point was that it has no supported 3G bands.
I want to take full advantage of 3G.
Finally!
Got official info!
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd
Bands
UMTS 900/1700/2100
GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 7.2Mbps/HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
There's that 1700/2100 that I need!
Yay!
does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
sloppy1 said:
does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
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It already is? The phone comes unlocked.
You can use it on any GSM carrier. Be aware, however, you will only get a 3G signal if you are using it on T-Mobile's network. You cannot use this phone on CDMA carriers(Sprint/Verizon) because of the different technologies.
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does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
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Do you mean SIM unlocked the phone to be used on any GSM network? The phone is factory SIM unlocked from Samsung/Google, either you bought it full price or with the contract, still SIM unlocked. Just insert any Sim card of your choice and your good to go.
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in usa it is ,,,but in uk on 02 its carrier locked as i want to put it on 3 network
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It already is? The phone comes unlocked.
You can use it on any GSM carrier. Be aware, however, you will only get a 3G signal if you are using it on T-Mobile's network. You cannot use this phone on CDMA carriers(Sprint/Verizon) because of the different technologies.
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What do you mean when you saying that you can use 3G only in T-mobile network??
If i put a Greek SIM card f.e. with a GSM provider, i will be unable to use 3G???
Different GSM devices use different frequencies. That is why there was an AT&T nexus1 and a T-Mobile nexus1. Both GSM phones, but different frequencies. If you use a T-mobile phone on a network like AT&T you cannot get 3g. The phone will work, with voice, and edge data, but no 3g. Pretty sure same goes for the AT&T n1 on t-mo, but I could be wrong there, too lazy to check the frequencies.
Always check to make sure your GSM provider uses the same 3g/2g frequency as your device.
I'm not smart enough to know why they are unable to build the Nexus with a radio that covers all frequencies, would be cool if somebody could elaborate on that.
kalagas said:
What do you mean when you saying that you can use 3G only in T-mobile network??
If i put a Greek SIM card f.e. with a GSM provider, i will be unable to use 3G???
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You need to find what frequencies your greek provider has for 3G. The nexus s has 900 / 1700 / 2100. I think it might work as it has 2100 band, but please double check what your carrier has for 3G bands, as I don't live in europe.
So i just checked and My Provider's 3G frequency is at 2100MHz...
Also My provider's GSM frequencies are 900/1800...
That means i can't get Nexus S 3G work on my provider???
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You need to find what frequencies your greek provider has for 3G. The nexus s has 900 / 1700 / 2100. I think it might work as it has 2100 band, but please double check what your carrier has for 3G bands, as I don't live in europe.
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Ok from your answer i think it will work 3G on my network provider...
Here i found a usefull link to check what frequencies all providers all over the world use...
Yep, you will have 3G on your nexus s.
The Nexus S with the frequencies it uses will work on T-Mobiles 3G network in the USA and the 3g on most if not all carriers in Europe.