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Does the touch hd work on AT&T network?? 3g or edge

Please let me know if it works on AT&T..
Thanks.

this has been covered ad nauseum. Learn to use the search function. The t8282 will work for gsm, you will only get edge no 3g
if you get the t8285, and are on the att network in a market where they offer 3g on the 850mhz band, then you'll get 3g, otherwise only edge.
Other gsm operators in the US you won't get 3g, only edge on either model.

As mentioned U need the t8285 for usa 3g...what carrier do U have now?

The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it

topher1976 said:
The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it
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IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.

DRTigerlilly said:
IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.
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The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.

topher1976 said:
The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.
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Yes but ATT doesn't use the 850 band in all places in the US, though they are trying to move to the band, you'll want to check what band they use for 3g in your area & if not already rolled out, if there are plans to.

HTC Magic (Vodafone UK) - Trying to get 3g in the states?

I have just taken a job in the states and brought my phone with me. I was expecting to be able to get 3g when I insert an AT&T or T-Mobile sim card. Unfortauntely the best that the phone seems to be able to get is Edge.
After doing a bit of research it seems that in the US they are using differnt frequencies.
Does anyone know of a fix which would allow my phone to get 3g in the states?

kdrover said:
I have just taken a job in the states and brought my phone with me. I was expecting to be able to get 3g when I insert an AT&T or T-Mobile sim card. Unfortauntely the best that the phone seems to be able to get is Edge.
After doing a bit of research it seems that in the US they are using differnt frequencies.
Does anyone know of a fix which would allow my phone to get 3g in the states?
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T-Mobile are, I think, UMTS 900 / 2100 (perhaps like Vodafone in the UK and elsewhere, which is why we can all use T-Mobile-based rooted HTC ROMs in our phones).
AT&T is UMTS 850 and 1900.
At the moment no phone on earth can do both UMTS 850 *and* UMTS 900. These frequencies are used to provide longer range coverage in low-density service areas - in other words, most city-edge and countryside places.
UMTS 1900, 2100 and other higher numbered frequencies are used in higher-density areas to provide more calling / data capacity, but with the downside of more limited range.
It seems (googling) that AT&T do 850/1900 and T-Mobile do 1700 (as of May '08 sez Wikipedia), though the T-Mobile MyTouch3G does 1700 and 2100....so maybe T-Mobile now do 2100 as well (at least in some places). There doesn't appear to be much, if any overlap on 3G frequencies between carriers and users must be EDGE only on the telco that doesn't match their phone. Everyone does EDGE.
In New Zealand, where I am, one carrier does 850 and the other 900...but they both support 2100....and a 3rd carrier will soon be offering 2100 later this year.....so you do get *some* 3G on just one phone in built up areas where telcos need more capacity and use 2100....but you get nothing in the countryside and have to used EDGE/GPRS.
There are about 7 UMTS frequency bands all up (Wikipedia).....so any single device is going to be seriously challenged to support all those well.....and what telco would want their phones to do that anyway? Frequency incompatibilities prevent their customers from leaving.......which explains why there aren't any phones that do all 7.

linuxluver said:
T-Mobile are, I think, UMTS 900 / 2100 (perhaps like Vodafone in the UK and elsewhere, which is why we can all use T-Mobile-based rooted HTC ROMs in our phones).
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If Vodafone (UK) & T-Mobile (US) are using the same UMTS frequencies, does this mean that I should be able to get 3g in the states? I am currently using a T-mobile (US) sim card but the phone is only getting an Edge connection. Maybe I need a ROM update??

maybe your in a area with no 3g coverage?
go to t mobiles website or better yet go here
http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?pageType=idealer
and press the data coverage tab....are you in a purple place?

glendawg619 said:
maybe your in a area with no 3g coverage?
go to t mobiles website or better yet go here
http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?pageType=idealer
and press the data coverage tab....are you in a purple place?
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I checked on the t-mobile site and Tampa, FL appears to be all purple.

Have you checked your settings?
Settings -> Wireless controls -> Mobile networks -> Make sure 2G only is "Un-ticked"
If it doesn't work, maybe you would like to consider selling your one on ebay and buying a Magic {or other handset} from the US

HTC HD2 3G Not Detected!!!!!

Hello if someone could help me with my 3G connection inquiry, I would greatly appreciate it.
I bought this phone unlocked from Hong Kong and brought it back to Canada. But the 3G connection through Rogers won't work. I am able to connect to edge (When i pop in my sisters sim card which has a data plan, as my sim card currently does not have a data plan).
I talked to Rogers and they said that everything is compatable (After mentioning the phone frequencies and speed capabilities) and that the only reason 3G isnt working is that I have not configured my phone properly for 3G and at this moment it is configured for 2G (Edge).
I then contacted HTC and they said the reason was because "for the Rogers network, their 3G signal is operated on the 850/1900 MHZ band and the Touch HD2 operates on the 900/2100 MHZ band." Could this be the reason? Will i never taste the pleasures of a 3G connection?
PLEASE HELP!!

since you have bought it in hongkong most probably you have the asian version. It comes with 900/2100 MHZ bands and as you mentioned ROger needs 850/1900 frequency.
You could also get Telstra version from Australia and unlock it as it has 850/1900 frquency so that you could get 3g. But not possible on the one you already have.

Yea its the frequencies. When I take my phones abroad, I always check what frequencies the country has. If the frequencies don't match, the phone won't work in terms of placing calls, 3G etc.

is there a way to unlock ?

meow914 said:
is there a way to unlock ?
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There is no software that can get around this "problem"
It is purely a hardware limitation.

perhaps with flashing radio but i'm not shure

[email protected] said:
perhaps with flashing radio but i'm not shure
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Nope, it still will not support the correct bands that he needs
This is a completely hardware related problem

simple solution....
simple solution...sell it or trade it fot the right one

[Q] Using the phone on another carrier

I am planning to buy MT4G, unlock it and use it on another carrier with compatible frequencies of course. Will I be still able to get updates using for example a wifi connection? or should I download updates manually? Is there something that I will lose when I use the phone on another carrier ?

I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.

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I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.
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Overseas, on a network that is compatible with regard to GSM/ UMTS frequencies. So the only way to get updates is to download them from forums like this one?

raeef said:
Overseas, on a network that is compatible with regard to GSM/ UMTS frequencies. So the only way to get updates is to download them from forums like this one?
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I don't know for absolute certain, but I'm 95% sure you wouldn't recieve OTA since it goes out over the network your phone is connected to.
You can usually snag the update from here, but unfortunately, a lot of people didn't run aLogcat to log the download and get the link. Including myself, though I'm trying now with my second device.

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I don't know for absolute certain, but I'm 95% sure you wouldn't recieve OTA since it goes out over the network your phone is connected to.
You can usually snag the update from here, but unfortunately, a lot of people didn't run aLogcat to log the download and get the link. Including myself, though I'm trying now with my second device.
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Another question, does anyone know if this device works on UMTS band I 2100 ( 2100/1900)? I really can't make up my mind because it's not clear on T mobile website. It says UMTS 1700/2100/AWS and this looks like it's referring only to UMTS IV

raeef said:
Another question, does anyone know if this device works on UMTS band I 2100 ( 2100/1900)? I really can't make up my mind because it's not clear on T mobile website. It says UMTS 1700/2100/AWS and this looks like it's referring only to UMTS IV
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The phone is compatible with almost every gsm band the specs are:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA/HSUPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
In the US most carriers are using GSM 850/1900 and 3G 1700/2100 you will only get OTA from T-mobile in the US if you are using their cellphone service or you can hope and wait for the update to show up here on XDA in the forum.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
In Israel where I am, and England, France and Germany etc. the bands are
2G 900/1800 and 3G 2100
so you should have no problem using 3G or even 3g+ "4G" on this phone if your cell provider offers it. But it may require an advanced sim card or signing up for a special data service.
Dont get confused by the various terms (UMTS EDGE HSPA etc.) a phone that is guad-gsm and tri-3G will run the data services just fine but T-mobile will tell you we dont guarantee the data capabilities outside of our network... because they dont want lawsuits

mo976 said:
The phone is compatible with almost every gsm band the specs are:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA/HSUPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
In the US most carriers are using GSM 850/1900 and 3G 1700/2100 you will only get OTA from T-mobile in the US if you are using their cellphone service or you can hope and wait for the update to show up here on XDA in the forum.
In Israel where I am, and England, France and Germany etc. the bands are
2G 900/1800 and 3G 2100
so you should have no problem using 3G or even 3g+ "4G" on this phone if your cell provider offers it. But it may require an advanced sim card or signing up for a special data service.
Dont get confused by the various terms (UMTS EDGE HSPA etc.) a phone that is guad-gsm and tri-3G will run the data services just fine but T-mobile will tell you we dont guarantee the data capabilities outside of our network... because they dont want lawsuits
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Actually I am a telecom engineer so I know about the terms. You didn't get my question about the bands. Look here for example support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24233.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
The listed Bands: 1 (2100) and 4 (AWS 1700/2100)
and that clearly shows that G2 supports 2 UMTS bands , 1 and 4
1 is 2100 paired with 1900 ( EU)
4 that is used by T mobile in the US.
So I am confused because on this page mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-4g-features#/specs-and-manualsthey listed the bands like this
Bands 1700/2100/AWS that's why it's not clear for me if MT4G supports UMTS I or not.

This is the official reply from HTC when asked:
Dear ....,
I understand that you would like to know if your T-mobile Mytouch 4G device can use the 2100 MHZ band over in Europe for 3G. I do apologize your device is not compatible with the 2100 MHZ back over in Europe for 3G service. I do apologize for all the inconvenience that this may cause you.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .....
Sincerely,
Victor
HTC
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raeef said:
Actually I am a telecom engineer so I know about the terms. You didn't get my question about the bands. Look here for example support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24233.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary
The listed Bands: 1 (2100) and 4 (AWS 1700/2100)
and that clearly shows that G2 supports 2 UMTS bands , 1 and 4
1 is 2100 paired with 1900 ( EU)
4 that is used by T mobile in the US.
So I am confused because on this page mytouch.t-mobile.com/mytouch-4g-features#/specs-and-manualsthey listed the bands like this
Bands 1700/2100/AWS that's why it's not clear for me if MT4G supports UMTS I or not.
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AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.

AWS is just another name of UMTS band IV. This is the only UMTS band the MT4G supports, so you'll be able to use it for 3G on carriers that use this band. You can see the list of bands and operators that use them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
In short, outside of the US, Canada, and Chile you're out of luck for 3G. You'd be able to use 2G fine though.

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AWS is just another name of UMTS band IV. This is the only UMTS band the MT4G supports, so you'll be able to use it for 3G on carriers that use this band. You can see the list of bands and operators that use them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
In short, outside of the US, Canada, and Chile you're out of luck for 3G. You'd be able to use 2G fine though.
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This is really confusing, look at this page http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24243.xml?&A2L.SERVICE=FeatureSummary

mo976 said:
AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.
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Frequency bands differ for different technologies on the same phone. For example there are 2 versions of Nexus one one for ATT and one for T mobile although they work on GSM level because the support both GSM bands on T mobile and ATT but not the UMTS bands on both networks. UMTS and GSM frequencies are not necessarily the same for each network and most probably they won't be the same. In my country we licensed 3G services ( UMTS) on 2100 band or UMTS 1 . GSM on 900 and 1800 only.

Can someone provide me with the FCC id from the back of the phone ?
I tired to search for it on the web but I don't think what I found was the correct one.

Update
I went to T-mobile store today, the guy was helpful and he printed out the official full technical specifications for the device that he pulled out and here what I got:
3G/UMTS Bands
Band I / UMTS2100 Yes
Band II / 1900 No
Band IV 1700/2100/AWS Yes
Band V/850 No
Band VII/ 900 No
The page was titled " Enablers" and listed specs for GSM and UMTS bands with their features. So I think this ends it for me, it does support both bands I and IV.

mo976 said:
AWS is the data delivery method used only by Tmo in the US. So the 4G service may not work outside the US but according to the phone specs it states that it supports UMTS and GPRS/EDGE so it should support 3G UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ and gprs/edge for 2G everywhere. Ill test my HD (from England) when I get to new york in a day or so and see if I can get proper 3G speeds.
Todays smartphones are designed to be used worldwide with full service as much as possible.
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Did it work with you in 3G speed in England ?

Good luck but I've taken my nexus one all over the planet... you'll get 3g in the countries listed above plus Japan (softbank only) but I haven't gotten 3g anywhere else....
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raeef said:
I am planning to buy MT4G, unlock it and use it on another carrier with compatible frequencies of course. Will I be still able to get updates using for example a wifi connection? or should I download updates manually? Is there something that I will lose when I use the phone on another carrier ?
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@OP: have you gotten the MT4G to work with UMTS Band I frequencies?

I got the update by only using my friend's t-mobile sim card, I think I got it via wifi since he doesn't have data plan.
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I don't know if you mean overseas or in any place other than the U.S. but the only "compatible" carrier for this phone besides T-Mobile is AT&T. The reason why compatible is in quotes is because yes the phone would function and make calls on that network, but you will lose 3G and HSPA+ service as AT&T's equivalents operate on a different and incompatible spectrum.
I would also assume that you would not receive OTA updates either.
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[Q] Toronto's Bell Carrier

My friend was testing out my phone and decided to put his Bell sim card into my "unlocked" T-Mobile HD2. The problem we couldn't figure out was why the phone wouldn't get any signal what so ever and even configured my phone to Bell Mobility settings.
I use Energy's Rom and changed some of the Band/Network setting but that didn't seem to work.
Any suggestions?

Tmo HD2 uses normal gsm and 1700/2100 hsdpa aka aws, bell does not support that. Wind mobile uses aws (which is what i am using with my hd2) all though you should get a roaming signal.
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I know in Energy's Rom there is an option to change the 3G bands from like 850+1900 and stuff, shouldn't that work?

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Is that Bell SIM card for a prepaid account? If so that's why it doesn't work. Prepaid cell services don't work the same way as regular ones, and have to use specially configured devices in order to gain a signal.

Thanks for the replies! Yes i think the Bell Sim Card is a prepaid account one. The probably explains the problems we were having.
What are some carriers that are confirmed to work with the T-Mobile HTC HD2? Rogers, Fido?, Wind?, Mobilicity?
Also want to know if i'm using Rogers would the 3G capability work. I am currently using Energy's Rom.

Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.

I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.

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I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.

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Roger's Wind and Mobilicity are the ones that I know for sure should work. I dunno about Fido, but basically any GSM service around the world that DOESN'T use prepaid SIM cards should work with an unlocked HD2, or any device for that matter. And as far as Roger's 3G capability I don't know, what bands does Roger's use for 3G access? The TMO US HD2 uses AWS 1700/2100.
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your wrong the Prepaid part, most prepaid cards do work like At&t, some dont work if they are like the ones sold by wallmart, but ANy GSM Sim card should work. i tried it on AT&T, VODAFONE AND AIRTEL
Lahnas said:
I believe rogers uses 850/1900. Not too sure but thats what i heard. Theres an option on the rom i flashed to enable 850+1900 umts or something. Im guess that would work. Cause i know if you use the stock rom that came with the T-Mobile, you the 3G doesn't work since its like 1700/2100.
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Those options are there in all of his roms, but the phone doesnt have the hardware to support it

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The rom will not enable 850 or 1900 umts. Ask any at&t subscriber trying to use a tmo hd2 on their network and trying to use 3g. Won't happen. If your looking for 3g, you need aws (and canada does have one, i don't remember who they are at the moment) or 2100mhz 3g/umts. gsm will work with a lot more bands.
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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.

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So you are saying UMTS(2100) will work with rogers 3G? Cause i know the stock T-Mobile roms have a GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) band option.
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yeah but only If Rogers supports 2100 cuz i dont think they do but i could be wrong

Im using prepaid on wind mobile both voice and data.
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Won't work. Bell (and Telus, Virgin, Koodo, Solo) only has 850/1900 HSPA... which this phone doesn't.
Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron have 1700 AWS so this phone will work with them, ditto for Rogers and Fido but in 2G mode only (since they have 850/1900 GSM)