So i called orange uk again last night, waited and talked for around 2 hours, i was told that the gps problem on galaxy s was due to manufacturer's fault (samsung). They told me they couldn't do anything about it. Optionally, they offered me htc desire to exchange my current galaxy s. They also told me that's the only option i have. I'm tired of arguing my consumer right and i'm asking here, is htc desire a better phone? Should i take it? Should i change my mind and stay with crappy gps galaxy s? Or should i write to complain orange and ask to cancel the contract because they are unable to provide a fully functional phone?
Any suggestions?
Depends what you do the most on your phone. Gaming? Stick to Galaxy S. Lots n lots of GPS usage? Change. Although are they only offering the old Desire and not the Desire HD or Z?
Other things to take note of is how long your contract is and what you're going to do with the phone afterwards. Sell? Then also check resell value. Keep at home as a little browsing device, a portable media playing device etc. I mean the Galaxy S has a really nice screen, there is no need to re-encode movies and with its GPU it will be able to handle upcoming games for quite a while.
If u cant live without functional gps...i think u should take the offer.
For me myself..sgs gps is functional enough and is not the main reason i bought this phone, so i can live with it
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Depends what you do the most on your phone. Gaming? Stick to Galaxy S. Lots n lots of GPS usage? Change. Although are they only offering the old Desire and not the Desire HD or Z?
Other things to take note of is how long your contract is and what you're going to do with the phone afterwards. Sell? Then also check resell value. Keep at home as a little browsing device, a portable media playing device etc. I mean the Galaxy S has a really nice screen, there is no need to re-encode movies and with its GPU it will be able to handle upcoming games for quite a while.
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well, I was gonna get an ipad for movies and web browsing. I don't use a lot of GPS, I also have 2-3 other phones with great GPS. Just don't wanna bring more than 1 device when I'm out and need to use GPS...
Orange doesn't provide desire Z, also they don't give me the option of HD...
Are you running froyo?
With froyo JK3 there is no gps issues here,
My Nexus and Galaxy S take around the same time to lock on, and while driving around the galaxy never looses the lock
I dont know what problems do you
Have with your galaxy but I have no problems with stock eclair. I don't think that five second better gps lock time is a reason to change a phone.
I am pretty satisfied with gps performance, and think that out is enough for normal usage, and if you need better performance use pro equipment.
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Personally i own a sgs, and the mrs a desire.
Out of the two i prefer mine in loads of ways:
1) My sgs battery lasts twice as long, if not longer than the desire
2) The screen on the sgs is far superior to the desire screen
(the desire in queston has amoled and not slcd)
3) I prefer the extra width of the sgs for holding it
4) The desire is quite easy to scrathc, chip, whereas my sgs is still pristine
5) Some may not believe it but froyo feels far faster on the sgs
6) Some may not believe this either but i found rooting, flashing, etc far easier on sgs.
I could go on, but u get the general idea. If i needed gps a lot and used it everyday i'd just buy a bluetooth gps mouse, they are cheap enough. I think the pros of the sgs far outweigh the cons of having to carry a bluetooth gps mouse in my pocket.
i would miss my sgs but i think when the nexus s comes out and it works perfect every body will start complaining more about the gps and bugs they still have with froyo maybe some thing might start to happen
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Personally i own a sgs, and the mrs a desire.
Out of the two i prefer mine in loads of ways:
1) My sgs battery lasts twice as long, if not longer than the desire
2) The screen on the sgs is far superior to the desire screen
(the desire in queston has amoled and not slcd)
3) I prefer the extra width of the sgs for holding it
4) The desire is quite easy to scrathc, chip, whereas my sgs is still pristine
5) Some may not believe it but froyo feels far faster on the sgs
6) Some may not believe this either but i found rooting, flashing, etc far easier on sgs.
I could go on, but u get the general idea. If i needed gps a lot and used it everyday i'd just buy a bluetooth gps mouse, they are cheap enough. I think the pros of the sgs far outweigh the cons of having to carry a bluetooth gps mouse in my pocket.
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I have only one thing: GPS on SGS is really crappy. I think that builds up all my points.
If you think that a phone's GPS capability is the most important, go ahead and change. No phone is perfect. But be aware that by changing, you are accepting Orange's offer and can be construed as waiving your future rights to complain/cancel your contract with regards to a phone issue..
I too have no issues with GPS though in 2.2 my first ever fix in copilot took a stupid ammount of time but now its less than 30 seconds and accuracy is similar to others.
My bother in law owns a Desire and though it does feel a little more robust then the Glaxy it also feels a little too small.
The GPS ain't perfect. But I wouldn't say it's unusable or something like that.
i've perfectly nice tracks made with it. It's just not the best feature of the phone.
The reasons why it's not perfect have been debated 1000 times so I don't need to write them again.
Bottom line is, for occasional tracks, drivings etc the SGS GPS feels just as good as any other (In the released Froyo at least). If you need higher reliability and precision many other phones are better, but to be honest i'd recommend an external gps any day, if the GPS is critical.
The GPS antenna in phones, and it's close proximity with the rest of the hardware makes it nearly impossible to reach the reliability and precision of external GPS's. (beside theyre MUCH easier to position properly in the car .. )
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The GPS ain't perfect. But I wouldn't say it's unusable or something like that.
i've perfectly nice tracks made with it. It's just not the best feature of the phone.
The reasons why it's not perfect have been debated 1000 times so I don't need to write them again.
Bottom line is, for occasional tracks, drivings etc the SGS GPS feels just as good as any other (In the released Froyo at least). If you need higher reliability and precision many other phones are better, but to be honest i'd recommend an external gps any day, if the GPS is critical.
The GPS antenna in phones, and it's close proximity with the rest of the hardware makes it nearly impossible to reach the reliability and precision of external GPS's. (beside theyre MUCH easier to position properly in the car .. )
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I am sorry but this is not the case. Both Nexus One and iPhone 4 have really good GPS easily as good as TomTom external devices. It is fair to say that the GPS in Galaxy is worse than most other comparable smartphones.
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I am sorry but this is not the case. Both Nexus One and iPhone 4 have really good GPS easily as good as TomTom external devices. It is fair to say that the GPS in Galaxy is worse than most other comparable smartphones.
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Exactly. I can always trust my Hero for GPS navigation. If my Galaxy S tell me to turn right, I have to check first that it does not think that I am 2-3 streets off.
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I am sorry but this is not the case. Both Nexus One and iPhone 4 have really good GPS easily as good as TomTom external devices. It is fair to say that the GPS in Galaxy is worse than most other comparable smartphones.
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maybe you've just been lucky. I happen to have an iphone4.
Well no dice compared to my "real" GPS. The difference in tracking accuracy and update speed is huge.
(that's my GPS: http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=367)
And for the record, it's only slightly better than the SGS GPS in my occasional uses (mostly running biking and sometimes car) mostly because it doesnt lose track of the signal as easily
Then again forums are plagued by people pushing their brands blindly. Please note also that I'm not comparing to the wrongly configured or really fault SGS GPS's.
Mine's not perfect but it does the job well enough. No such thing as being 2 streets off. But it's often not exactly aligned or loses track of GPS for 2s for no reason. Which isn't exactly good but not a huge issue.
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I have only one thing: GPS on SGS is really crappy. I think that builds up all my points.
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So why did u bother asking in the first place?
Demand the htc desire hd and not the standard old desire. Hardware wise the old desire is below sgs while the newer desire hd is on par or just a little better then sgs with a bigger but not better screen. I would love a desire hd
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maybe you've just been lucky. I happen to have an iphone4.
Well no dice compared to my "real" GPS. The difference in tracking accuracy and update speed is huge.
(that's my GPS: http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=367)
And for the record, it's only slightly better than the SGS GPS in my occasional uses (mostly running biking and sometimes car) mostly because it doesnt lose track of the signal as easily
Then again forums are plagued by people pushing their brands blindly. Please note also that I'm not comparing to the wrongly configured or really fault SGS GPS's.
Mine's not perfect but it does the job well enough. No such thing as being 2 streets off. But it's often not exactly aligned or loses track of GPS for 2s for no reason. Which isn't exactly good but not a huge issue.
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I have both an Iphone 4 and SGS
and the GPS is substantially worse on the SGS. I would say that the number of GPS threads on this and other SGS forums are a good indication that many SGS owners are not satisfied with GPS performance
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I have both an Iphone 4 and SGS
and the GPS is substantially worse on the SGS. I would say that the number of GPS threads on this and other SGS forums are a good indication that many SGS owners are not satisfied with GPS performance
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i did write it's problems and that it's worse. but it's not unuseable either, very far from it - sry. and the ip4 gps ain't all that great either (but yes it's certainly better)
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I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!
When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
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I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!
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I've had an iPhone 3G and a 3GS. Sold the 3GS a month ago to buy the iPhone 4. Due to every shop being out of stock on these babys, I decided to give Android a chance.
I nearly bought the Xperia X10 but in some shop they had a Galaxy S Demo Unit. I grabbed it and fell in love with it. It's so light-weight compared to other smartphones!
When I went home with it, I read some footage about it on engadget, gizmodo, etc. I didn't know it was the strongest Android phone at this time. I was very surprised and even more in love!
The screen is a blast.
I was in the same situation, though I was coming from a WinMo handset. I'm so happy with my choice, I know a few nexus one and desire owners who are now wanting a SCS - which says a lot.
My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)
Thanks very much for the feedback guys... its good to get opionions of Win Mo users switching, as most reviews I have read on the internet is based on prev Iphone users (who's opinions I do not value).
Are you guys mostly using the stock SGS software, or running custom roms?
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My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)
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Do you prefer this phone to your HD2? The HD2 was a great phone (as was the TyTn II)!
I am using factory's rom with a little bit of addition: rooting + auto killer to manage memories.
From an Omnia i900 winmo. 6.5.5 user, I have no lags problem on this phone.
Well, how about the opinion of a user switching between iPhone 3GS, Symbian s60v3 and v5, WinMo6, 6.1, and 6.5 and Android 1.5, 1.6, and 2.1 phones, in order to find my perfect suite?!? Actually my last/previous phone was Vivaz PRO
It is really the best phone that i laid my hands on up to now.
Hardware-wise, unbelievable super AMOLED multi-touch screen, fantastic HD video camera, super-fast CPU, a lot of RAM, 8GB internal memory and VERY VERY light! (OK, I miss the LED flash, but I can live with that).
Software-wise, I believe, after a lot of experience with multiple OSs, that Android is the future (at least for the next couple of years). Very smooth OS, open to do everything you wish (root, custom firmware, install pirate soft, etc) easily, and VERY FAST GROWING/UPDATING (compared with WinMo and symbian, that feel a bit ancient by now).
Go for it bro! You wont regret!
Just sold mine galaxy s on ebay.. and for a very good price I am so happy now
If you are like me and use gps navigation a lot, simply run away from this phone.
I am now back to my HD2 (so happy I did not sell it). No navigation software can compare with tom tom.
All in all galaxy s has:
Superb screen:
HD video recording
And that is about it….
The gps is rubbish, don’t listen to the people telling you that they fixed it…
All “fixes” are just to provide fast network location fix (which in most cases is inaccurate)
With my HD2 it does not matter how cloudy it is, and how tall are the buildings around me,
I have GPS fix in 3-5sec and I MEAN GPS FIX, not network location fix.
SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM.
2 days ago I was in central London and tried to find the closest tesco with google maps…
After 5min I just gave up… galaxy s simply could not do it
With HD2 things like that takes 10 to 20 sec (including typing tesco in the search bar)
I am also very disappointed with the android OS,
This thing does not even support external gps… we had that in winmo 10 years ago…
It has all sorts of problems, for example application starting on the background (consuming data) and there is simply no way for the user to control that.
One more thing the internal memory card is very very very slow and this slows down the devise a lot. Sure people will tell you about the sd card fix but REALLYYYY… should I start fixing the Samsung rubbish? No thanks, will stay away from Samsung and android for another 2 years (at least)
same here i always purchase my smartphones by the hardware spec, and the amount of Forums/groups available for it.
unfortunately the HTC Athena was flawed, the device itself is amazingly great, howerver support for it was low.
SGS i9000 on the other hand has a very lively group just like HTC Desire
kcharng said:
When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
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mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
Logicalstep
As a x1 user who has just upgraded to a Galaxy S a week past i can say that it is definetly worth it.
I did own a Desire for a day when i got it on contract but i didn't get coverage for the network in my area.
I find the Galaxy S to be a nicer looking phone, screen looks a lot brighter and better. Sound quality from the speaker is better and the UI also seems much faster.
It's a great phone, no questions asked, but you have to realize that it needs some work (like the fixes and all) and customization.
I'm using the imfamous JF3 stock rom and i do notice some lags and battery drain (but I use it very heavily, frequent syncs and updates, tons of widgets and all that) so i'm gonna switch over to the better ones.
I come from the Omnia II wich was a great phone but very poorly supported by samsung and the community. This isn't the case at all for the SGS. I used to have sense on my device, big fan of sense, but i like the SGS homescreen as well with the different pannels, really like it. Touchwizz is sort of a love/hate relationship
I'm loving android so far, even though i don't understand everything, i'm sure i could enhance my phone a lot.
hope this helps
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mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
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Logicalstep, that is what I am trying to explain .. I DO NOT NEED “Good Luck” when using my hd2’s gps in central London, it simply work. I work in central London so trust me, I know what I am talking about.
If you are coming from a phone with poor gps I can understand your point, but hd2 simply has a proper gps unit in it and it is working no matter where I am. With HD2 I can even get gps lock in the train (10 sec), tried this with galaxy s and guess what... it FAILED (after 10min).
You can keep convincing yourself that the buildings are high, the sky is cloudy or God knows what ..
But the simple truth is the gps is rubbish.
Keep waiting for the NEXT firmware to fix the issues, and when it failed keep waiting for the next one and so on....
Mitko please do us a favour and leave the forum, we know that you sold your Galaxy S, and frankly its quite boring to see you posting on every thread and preaching slander. The GPS does take a short while to position (about 30-40 secs) but after that it works perfectly for me. I have used it on several occasions when lost in central London.
Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.
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Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.
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Coming from you that is high praise indeed.
Loving my SGS, no way am I going back to Symbian.
On my side I am coming from winmo6.5 and then iphone3GS
if i had an advice to give you in order to choose between the desire and the samsung it would be to know that :
* you won't have HTC sense on samsung ... I mean really nothing comparable.
* there is almost no button on the samsung .No trackball ( painfull for selection) no LED ... and it's quite annoying some time
Yes when I compare both with my colleague , mine has a better screen ( bigger , brighter) but it will worth it if you watch a lot of video or look at a lot of picture. If it's just to have more beautifull icon ... you will forget it looks better after few weeks
I am still a little bit uncertain about the GPS ... I need to do more tests and to check the settings I could enhance but it can't be compared to my TomTom ( on both winmo and iphone)
Hopefully there will be soon a real fix for the slowness of the SD card ... hopefully ...
Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.
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Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.
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I'm sure you will enjoy it
And honestly i agree about the cheap looking back but honestly that's why it is so light and you forget about this quickly.
Especially if you add a case ( you have some very thin one)
I've picked up the Galaxy S so many times it's untrue. I like the screen and the speed and the open environment. I've very tempted to buy one SIM free and unlocked.
But ... and this isn't a troll ... I've read many comments about the GPS being unreliable and inaccurate (and that it locks up) and at £400 ($620 US) I'd need to be sure that it's going to work. For me, having access to the GPS is one of the best features now that locational services are expanding rapidly.
I've got an N95 which has lasted me for about three years and is still IMHO a good phone. I've also got an iPhone 3G that, really, feels too slick. Too sickly. Of course, their store is good. IOS4 also seems to have made it a dog performance wise.
I know that there are apparently hundreds of thousands of these so I'd expect to see adverse comments but given that Samsung is said to be offering a 'fix' soon, it seems like there really is an issue.
My N95 has lasted a long time and if I buy another premium phone it will need to do the same. I wonder if I should go for it or wait to see what the reputed HTC Desire HD has to offer in a few weeks time ? If it has the larger screen and double LED flash it could be a real winner if the price is right (not more than £450).
It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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It does feel very flimsy but I've been telling myself that instead, it's 'light'
I still like the N95. I think that it still feels so good because Nokia did such a good job all that time ago - wi-fi, GPS, amazing camera resolution and lens, 3G, front-facing camera, etc, etc.
TBH, I've also looked at the iPhone 4. We've already bought one and yet again, the screen is dreamy and it's very fast with good apps but as a programmer in a former life, I've started to learn Java and have been playing with the Android SDK. I've only scratched the surface and I'm really quite excited about how much of the system resources are easily accessed with the APIs.
Hi,
i also thinking about to buy the galaxy 9000. The other phone is the HTC Desire.
The Desire has Android 2.2, the Galaxy the better display but maybe a GPS problem.
I should also have added that, I reckon, being a more recent device, the new (all speculation, of course) HTC Desire HD could end up with OS updates beyond those for the Samsung. Maybe those who know the companies better than me would disagree though.
Sorry, but my englis is not the best one. Can you repeat your answer in more easier english?
It's always nice practice to just lay it all out and weigh all the pros and cons of each device. That's what I did and I listed to much PROS in favor of the SGS. I'm not much of a GPS user anyway.
The GPS issues have been quite overstated and only really apply to aGPS when satellites are unavailable because you are either indoors or in a large city with buildings everywhere. They also only really effected the US models, and not the international I9000 or the Canadian version. I bought the first one when the store opened on launch day and I have not had any problems whatsoever with the GPS, it works pefectly, much better than the GPS on my old first gen galaxy and my gf's htc magic. Note that I am also running the original firmware.
Also, the aGPS problem for the US Galaxies has been figured out and mostly fixed by Samsung, I believe a couple of the models might still be waiting on a firmware update in Sept that will fix it for good. So I wouldn't let the GPS sway you, most people that are having problems are just not smart enough to enable the aGPS (it is disabled by default). Always take online rants with a grain of salt as often it is just the person doing something wrong.
As far as this phone vs the Desire?
CPU/GPU: Faster on the Galaxy (GPU is claimed to be up to 3x faster)
Screen: Flat out win for the galaxy, no comparison
Video: Galaxy = 720p, to my knowledge the desire does 480, possibly 720 with froyo?
Vid Output: Galaxy= HDMI, Composite, DLNA, Desire = none, maybe composite through 3.5mm jack?
Keyboard: Swype>Sense Keybo
Front Cam: Galaxy=Yes, Desire=No
Storage: Galaxy 16GB, Desire 0.5GB
Bluetooth: Galaxy = 3.0, Desire = 2.1
Wifi: Galaxy = N Desire = G
The Desire having 2.2 is not really a plus as the Galaxy is getting it next month and unofficial roms are already out.
The only positives I can find for the desire is the camera flash and I guess a matter of taste if you like it's design over the Galaxy, the Galaxy is a fair bit thinner though, and not much larger overall considering the screen size difference. You could say the camera flash is an advantage for the Desire, but the night mode works quite well on the Galaxy and if you've ever seen a pic taken with a mobile phone w/ led flash at night you'll know that it really doesn't help much anyways. It is more useful as a flashlight. I was dead set on the desire before the galaxy was announced, and Samsung easily changed my mind.
I had a N95 for 6 months. It just stopped working. They told me I had wet the thing. I hadn't. They told me I probably had it in the bathroom when showering, and the vapor could wet the thing. That I don't remember.
I like the sgs phone so far, and my gps works pretty ok and I never flashed any rom.
I'm loving this phone. I have a macbook pro and still like apple's computers.
Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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What he means is that he is a troll. Torture tests on Youtube prove that the GS can survive virtually any beating, except unsubstantiated trolling.
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It won't last that long. The build quality is awful. I've had mine one month and the home button is already showing signs of wear. My N95 is still fine compared to this and my iPhone 3G is much better quality. I really regret buying this phone.
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There might be a batch with dodgy home button finish.. Mine is doing fine..
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Signs of wear on the home button? Do you mean light scratches? Scratches are unavoidable when you have shiny surface. The old iPods scratch ridiculously easily.
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After one month it is unacceptable to have a plastic button so scratched that it is matte. The quality of the plastics use on that thing is just plain below par.
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There might be a batch with dodgy home button finish.. Mine is doing fine..
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Yours, along with everybody else. Ignore the troll.
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Not a troll. Just speaking from my experience. And not the only one either.
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Not a troll. Just speaking from my experience. And not the only one either.
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I was also on the fence about buying a SGS. all this talk of bad build finish and inferior plastics is being hyped by the FEW not the many . Jausse`s link has Bad and good reviews so using that as corroboration is just nonsense . My contract is nearly up and I have spent the last month looking at reviews , videos and forums to help me decide wether to buy the SGS or the Desire and the SGS IMHO wins hands down. I`ll get the other half a desire as she loves sense Ui and thats the only reason I won`t be getting 2. One final thing the SGS has gorilla glass which means the screen is as tough as a phone screen can get. http://www.corning.com/news_center/news_releases/2010/2010082301.aspx
I bought the galaxy and I fine the phone amazing... What is wrong with the galaxy can be fixed by firmware updates unlike other phones you have to put up with it... Come september I'll have 2.2 on here and no gps issues (not that I've had any to begin with) here is where the phone is lacking: decent voip solution and decent middle east gps software. Both are software issues and can be fixed as for the build I've had mine about a month too and there are no marks on it the screen is not scratched even slightly and the home button is perfect I don't know how you managed to damage it in one month :s
This is my opinion and I've been using it very very intensely with wifi mms bluetooth (with headset too) developing apps calls tonnes of app usage too till now everything is working wonderfully
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iPhones get their home button's scratched up too, along with almost every other phone. It's a button though. Does it really affect your usability? It's time people start asking themselves what they wish to do with their device though, and how they use it. The back is strong (despite being plastic), and the touch panel is scratch resistant too. And yes, seen plenty of scratched up iPhones.
Why should you care how the home button looks? If the appearance of your phone affects your pride or your chances of picking up, perhaps you need to think things through, or you should buy the HTC legend instead..
I don't think whether the plastic gets scratches says ANYTHING about the quality used (besides, only the button and back seem to be plastic). Either way, the back can be replaced easily, so that's irrelevant, and unless you suspect the button will be destroyed by scratching, I don't think it will affect many people. So personally, whether the button scratches wouldn't affect my decision personally.. But that is just an opinion.
But I'd agree, you aren't trolling.. And people need to stop confusing trolling and negative opinions.
I've had mine for almost a month and there is no sign of wear or scratches whatsoever. Not sure what you're expecting as plastic will scratch, but there are numerous youtube videos demonstrating the durability of the screen. The home button may not be covered with the same gorilla glass so if you're keeping the phone in pockets with keys and change, it will get scratched. However I take relatively good care of mine and it has no scratches on the front or the back, I keep it in my pocket and set it on a variety of surfaces.
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The GPS issues have been quite overstated and only really apply to aGPS when satellites are unavailable because you are either indoors or in a large city with buildings everywhere. They also only really effected the US models, and not the international I9000 or the Canadian version. I bought the first one when the store opened on launch day and I have not had any problems whatsoever with the GPS, it works pefectly, much better than the GPS on my old first gen galaxy and my gf's htc magic. Note that I am also running the original firmware.
Also, the aGPS problem for the US Galaxies has been figured out and mostly fixed by Samsung, I believe a couple of the models might still be waiting on a firmware update in Sept that will fix it for good. So I wouldn't let the GPS sway you, most people that are having problems are just not smart enough to enable the aGPS (it is disabled by default). Always take online rants with a grain of salt as often it is just the person doing something wrong.
As far as this phone vs the Desire?
CPU/GPU: Faster on the Galaxy (GPU is claimed to be up to 3x faster)
Screen: Flat out win for the galaxy, no comparison
Video: Galaxy = 720p, to my knowledge the desire does 480, possibly 720 with froyo?
Vid Output: Galaxy= HDMI, Composite, DLNA, Desire = none, maybe composite through 3.5mm jack?
Keyboard: Swype>Sense Keybo
Front Cam: Galaxy=Yes, Desire=No
Storage: Galaxy 16GB, Desire 0.5GB
Bluetooth: Galaxy = 3.0, Desire = 2.1
Wifi: Galaxy = N Desire = G
The Desire having 2.2 is not really a plus as the Galaxy is getting it next month and unofficial roms are already out.
The only positives I can find for the desire is the camera flash and I guess a matter of taste if you like it's design over the Galaxy, the Galaxy is a fair bit thinner though, and not much larger overall considering the screen size difference. You could say the camera flash is an advantage for the Desire, but the night mode works quite well on the Galaxy and if you've ever seen a pic taken with a mobile phone w/ led flash at night you'll know that it really doesn't help much anyways. It is more useful as a flashlight. I was dead set on the desire before the galaxy was announced, and Samsung easily changed my mind.
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Thanks for the comprehensive reply I honestly got all stoked up again when you said that the the GPS issue only really affected the US models so I did a Google for 'Samsung Galaxy S GPS UK' to clarify that and guess what I saw. Yes, the same issue for over here
Hi all,
As I just said its been released in Spain and I was wandering if I should get it over the desire hd its in same price range so money ain't a problem but people seem to have major issues with the galaxy .
4" screen is more than enough for me but I saw the samoled in action and is amazing the camera I hear its good too, so what should I do?
I have a really hard time recommending the Galaxy S. I could really use a working gps and a cached map navigation. The lag is really frustrating as well but as you can see with the xda app it's still usable and games run smoothly. So to answer your question: it depends what you plan to do with the phone.
Also don't forget that the desires already have 2.2 and don't put your hopes up that samsung fixes current issues.
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I could really use a working gps and a cached map navigation
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GPS accuracy improvements are on the way, and for map caching on sd card you can use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
To OP: No phone is perfect.
If you don't want to flash or root your phone, you would have to wait until 2.2 comes to fix the majority of the various bugs / improvements needed. Samsung is apparently working on it 24/7, hopefully we'll get a release by the end of October.
Compared to the Desire HD, the immediate difference is the screen quality.
Cached maps navigation sure seems like heaven especially with compas integration, im directionally challenged so it could help me a lot, the 2.2 out of the box and first probable phone to get 3.0 is definetly a plus...
I really like the screen and video format integration it always pissed me off that i have to convert videos to watch on my phone. and I use my phone to listen to music how is the SGS in that regard?
What is youre experience with the phone (i know sammy isnt the best manefacturer but whats the problem beside the gps?)
Music dont sound good on sgs as compared to ipod or iphone
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Music dont sound good on sgs as compared to ipod or iphone
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supercurio would like a word with you
I have a hero now and the audio ain't bad it can't be any worse right ?
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I have a hero now and the audio ain't bad it can't be any worse right ?
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Nope, I've had a Hero and the sound quality is much better. The original earphones that come with the SGS are bull****, from this comes the bad sound quality. If you have or buy good earphones the sound quality is great.
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Nope, I've had a Hero and the sound quality is much better. The original earphones that come with the SGS are bull****, from this comes the bad sound quality. If you have or buy good earphones the sound quality is great.
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Interesting... the earbuds that came with mine are actually pretty good. Not as good as my £40 Sennheiser earbuds, but very close! Good bass response, uncoloured midrange. The trebble is a little harsh sometimes at max volume but that's to be expected.
Makes me wonder if perhaps mine weren't manufactured by Samsung.
If you don't care flashing, then the Galaxy S is ok.
I think the Desire HD will be better out of the box though.
I don't mind flashing...if its a resonable amount.
I can buy either just have a hard time deciding which one.
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You should try them out!
The HD is quite heavy compared to the Galaxy (I held it briefly) but feels much more robust. That being said, I have the Galaxy S since August and nothing has happened to it yet.
I have used the normal desire (non HD) and it seems to be much snappier than the galaxy s. That of course doesn't mean that the HD will be as snappy. The Sense GUI seems to be better than touchwiz.
With JM6 and the voodoo lagfix, the Galaxy is doing ok. I am really happy with it.
If I were you I would wait a little bit to see what's going to happen with Froyo and hear first real impressions about the HD.
wasnt froyo realeased for the SGS? at least unofficialy?
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GPS accuracy improvements are on the way, and for map caching on sd card you can use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
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Thanks, although that doesn't work for the Navigation.
The sgs been out since summer right? How's the build quality holding ?
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The sgs been out since summer right? How's the build quality holding ?
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this is the best phone available on the market right now!
if you can wait, then wait for better stuff comming out on 2011
if you need a new phone now get the Galaxy S
strong, good for protection out of the box, see the videos on the wiki
great reception
GPS works good contrary to what you have read here in the forum, it just depends on the firmware
the Camera is amazing, Video recording as well
Audio is the finest quality on both the 3.5 and via Bluetooth 3.0
if you have a car with BT stereo support, you'll love it!
the LAGs that you read about is not real, it all comes down to maintaining your phone with the autorun killers and task managers to optimize the phone.
WiFi N is very fast, i get up to 87 Mbps on it, not as fast as PC but fast enough to transfer large files, without using the USB
SAMOLED screen is amazing.
Well don't mind installing the lagfixes and if I keep waiting for a better phone il never have one T-T but I do want a tegra2
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DesireHD delayed in spain should i just get the sgs?
Hey,
I'm from the Netherlands, and bought my Galaxy S 2 weeks ago. I knew full well that the Desire HD was coming, but chose for the Galaxy S anyway...
I couldn't be happier with my choice, this is why:
-The Galaxy S screen is superior. No match, S-Amoled rocks.
-Xvid support is lovely.
-There already is a lot of documentation and a big user base for the Galaxy S (and stuff like Galaxy S specific apps), which gives you a community to fall back on.
-The Galaxy S has a pretty good battery (1500 mAh), in contrary to the DesireHD (1200 mAh).
-The Galaxy S is available NOW (there's always something on the horizon).
-Bluetooth 3.0
-The best processor in smartphone world.
-A LOT more memory; up to 48gb (16 internal and 32 microsd).
-It is light.
-There's a front facing camera for video calls and such.
In all honesty, the Desire HD has some pros too:
-The screen, although it sucks in comparison, is pretty big.
-The build quality seems to be pretty good.
-HTC support, probably until android 3.0.
-It has more RAM.
-8MP camera with flash.
-Maybe device design and HTC Sense, depends on taste. I like the Galaxy S and Touchwiz just fine, personally.
To me, the Galaxy S was better on paper and I am very satisfied with the experience it is giving me up to now.
It does need some tweaks, but the good news is all of those tweaks are available due to the huge user base (>1 mil!). It has lag, use a lagfix. It doesn't properly manage RAM, use AutoKiller Memory. Etc.
Fact is that, if the DesireHD runs into these issues, you won't have a fix ready right away simply because the user base will need to grow and the device hasn't been tested by over a million people for half a year. With the Galaxy S, you know what you will be getting, and you know it's awesome.
So, there you go; get the Galaxy S.
Greets,
MM
Really? Awesome havent noticed the front camera xD
Well the main pull the desireHd has over me is that htc phones are better supported (xda etc..) And kinda like the new sense(The site,cached map nav are really awesome )I dont like the battery, i dont care how much more optimised the proccesor is at 1200mAh with its huge screen its gonna die quickly.
4 inch screen is plenty of space.
everybody says the camera is awesome
Hey is the bootloder unlocked can we flash costom roms yet? Dont think i saw any...
Hello.
I stand between Desire and Galaxy S right now, i recently had a X10i, but it has a hardware failure that my service provider arent able to fix.
So is galaxy S the best or Desire.
Galaxy has better battery life, better screen, but i've heard it has some performance trouble once in a while?
Desire has Led light and optical tracking mouse, no particularly failure..
I also thought of Iphone 4, but i think this version has to many defects?
Tnx for all replies..
-Galaxy might have GPS issue, if it is important to you, test it out before buying it (30 min walk on dence city conditions is the worst for any GPS, you'd get an idea if it goes good or bad)
-Display on SGS is the best out there, period!
-GPU (graphic unit) is the best out there, period!
-Issue with the file system (corrected with lag fix) so you'd get "lag" when using intensive read/write on SGS (large ammount of files, slight lag when installing, etc). Froyo seems to lesser the issue
-Camera quality is pretty good. HTC has the reputation of having poor camera, so even higher MP's on the cam might not mean higher quality.
-Led flashs are useless compare to Night Mode on SGS (google it for examples). So unless you want to use your phone as an expensive ligh torch, this shouldn't be an issue.
tnx for reply. anyone else have experience, maybe with both?
someone tried Iphone 4? (Calendar notes on iphone(do they show a notification))?
Desire still has multitouch bug as well that likely cannot be fixed due to hardware limitations:
I've had both. I would say Galaxy S. The lack of LED and touchpad doesnt bother me. The lag can creep in after a while but lagfix solves it pretty well.
On the other hand, Desire camera is nowhere as good as the SGS, same with the GPU...games run much smoother on the SGS and it can play 720p video. Desire struggles with HD video and some games.
Galaxy S needs some tweaking, but once thats out of the way its definitely over the Desire.
Galaxy S hands down having seen them both side by side.
Galaxy S would be great but...
If I were to buy a new phone again after experiencing all these internal issues of Galaxy.
I PERSONALLY would stay away from Galaxy S.
But that is just me.
Just do some reading here before making decision.
Get a Desire HD, or wait for Cyanogenmod.
Unfortunately, I am starting to doubt this phone increasingly every day
wait for a better phone....dont get galaxy s right now.....too many issues...you will regret it.
I own both devices.
If you want worse hardware and zero problems choose HtC Desire, it's nearly flawless and lag free. No problems with insufficient memory etc.
Galaxy s has much better screen, call quality, speaker quality, much better camera despite its lack of flash.
I prefer galaxy s as advanced user, after rooting and lag fix I'd never come back to desire.
But out of the box experience is much better in case of HTC Desire.
Afraid of rooting/flashing? Phone just has to work without xda? Choose Htc Desire.
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if its gaming your most intrested in the iphone 4 games are alot better well polished and its a whole world apart in terms of build quality. The sgs has a kind cheap feeling about it. i wouldnt get the desire but i would def get the desire hd if its available to you go for it
Having owned the Desire before the SGS I'd say the little niggles the SGS suffers from are liveable. I couldn't give up the smoothness (sure with the lagfix but meh) especially when it comes to video play back and games along with the screen it is miles better then the Desire.
Out of the box - Desire
As a phone to play around with - SGS
A phone that works... Just - iPhone
But personally Android any day for me
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if its gaming your most intrested in the iphone 4 games are alot better well polished and its a whole world apart in terms of build quality. The sgs has a kind cheap feeling about it. i wouldnt get the desire but i would def get the desire hd if its available to you go for it
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You can have plenty of "iphone" like games all over internet with the Flash...
So, unless you wan't something you can't realy fool around with and is closed, I wouldn't go with an iPhone
If you have some time and gaming is important get the galaxy s. The best would be to wait for a new phone, but its always going to be the best and you'll end up going crazy and never getting a phone.
The galaxy s to me is like an alpha romeo. Yeah it gives you **** every now and then but theres just something about it. When the phone works its just all fun, but it has its ****ty moments. Like with the gps.
I figure op would reply back to our replies??
Hope OP made a goodchoice
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Hi all, I've received my new Galaxy s2 three days ago and I've faced a lot of the same problems that were affecting my first Sgs.
Here is a quick list:
1- Wifi poor reception (worse than sgs, desire,desire hd and Iphone 4)
2- Screen is blueish like my first sgs(In miu rom or cm7 it isn't blue because I can set the red color with voodoo color!!! so it's a faulty software calibration damn!!)
3- Gps lock is fast but not strong, it keeps disconnecting with Google navigator and works better with Sygic. Worse than Desire, Desire hd, Iphone 4, but better than my Sgs.
4-Random reboot!
5- Poor sound output through headphone!! Worse than all the other devices except Sgs, but since Supercurio realeased Voodoo sound it rocks!
I don't know if this problems could be solved by the community, but I am very frustrated. I put my trust in Samsung again and in the online reviews but now i fell betrayed.
I hope that I could return my phone to get another device but since htc locked its bootloaders I don't know what to choose...
I hope You all find my post useful if You are going to buy Sgs 2.
Could anyone that has Lg phone like optimus 2 tell me if this phone is good or if it has a lot of problems like galaxy 2?
not worth the effort of posting against a fixed viewpoint .
Deleted my phone works details as someone dont agree that out of a million phones sold some work ok .
jje
I've got one on order but all this disappointment is swaying me to cancel it and hold out with my iPhone 4 a while longer, there's nothing wrong with it to me anyway.
Don't return the phone, there's nothing wrong with it.
I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership so I think I'm pretty well equipped to say whats normal for these phones and whats not.
- Wifi
Wifi reception IS poor. My old HTC Desire and my girlfriends HTC Desire both get MUCH better range on the wifi than the Galaxy S2. The range on all the Galaxy S2's I've had has been the same - poor. This is a common complaint about the G2. Anyone who says they don't have this problem either has no idea what good wifi range is, or is just lying out of their ass.
- Screen
The screen does indeed have a blueish tint on it. There's a thread about it on these forums. Nothing we can do about that. Again, another common issue to all G2's.
Also the some other issues you have mentioned. Touch screen sensitivity is on the low side, you can tap the screen lightly and quickly enough so that it doesn't register an input. This is impossible to do on a HTC Desire.
Also the pixel response time is said to be 0.001ms by Samsung, but this is a load of crap. It works out closer to 6-8ms, as evident when scrolling black text on a white background (or vice versa) the text will blur slightly.
- GPS
The GPS is pretty poor at the moment, hopefully it improves with updates, majority of people are complaining about this, myself included. None of the 4 G2's I had could get a quick lock on GPS (they take flipping ages). The GPS is REALLY hit and miss at the moment.
- Random Reboots
This is a REALLY REALLY common issue. It's been reported everywhere. However, depending on the frequency of the reboots would determine whether or not I'd class it as faulty. Of all the G2's I've had, NONE of them have randomly rebooted. However if yours has rebooted like once or twice over the week, I'd count that as normal, happens on a few android phones. But if it does it anymore than that, get it replaced.
- Poor Sound Output
This is completely subjective. But I have an expensive amp and speaker setup that I use on my PC which I've got used to so I'm really picky about sound quality and yes I agree, the sound output is abit naff. But it's not terrible by any means. I can live with it.
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Hi all, I've received my new Galaxy s2 three days ago and I've faced a lot of the same problems that were affecting my first Sgs.
Here is a quick list:
1- Wifi poor reception (worse than sgs, desire,desire hd and Iphone 4)
2- Screen is blueish like my first sgs(In miu rom or cm7 it isn't blue because I can set the red color with voodoo color!!! so it's a faulty software calibration damn!!)
3- Gps lock is fast but not strong, it keeps disconnecting with Google navigator and works better with Sygic. Worse than Desire, Desire hd, Iphone 4, but better than my Sgs.
4-Random reboot!
5- Poor sound output through headphone!! Worse than all the other devices except Sgs, but since Supercurio realeased Voodoo sound it rocks!
I don't know if this problems could be solved by the community, but I am very frustrated. I put my trust in Samsung again and in the online reviews but now i fell betrayed.
I hope that I could return my phone to get another device but since htc locked its bootloaders I don't know what to choose...
I hope You all find my post useful if You are going to buy Sgs 2.
Could anyone that has Lg phone like optimus 2 tell me if this phone is good or if it has a lot of problems like galaxy 2?
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If you think desire and Desire HD has better sound, you need your ears checked.
Desire HD is horrid, absolutely horrid when it comes to sound. It does not even give you proper stereo effects. Its a disaster.
That 1 point made me ignore whatever rest you said.
I use it with miu rom and it comes with dsp that made the sound good. The only problems I have with Dhd is low ringtone( partially solved by kernel implemention) and incall volume very very low and distorted at full volume.
Someone thinks is possible a change if a return the phone in the first 7 days with another phone?
It sounds like you have a faulty device tbh.
I can't compare to all the devices you can but my girlfriend has a desire (on my recommendation.) The SGS2 is superior in every issue you're having. And i loved her desire. I was actually surprised how much of a leap the SGS2 felt like.
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I've got one on order but all this disappointment is swaying me to cancel it and hold out with my iPhone 4 a while longer, there's nothing wrong with it to me anyway.
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All new phones have issues. Actually ALL phones have issues period. This phone is actually getting hugely positive reactions from both reviewers and general users like myself. It always amuses me how some people can only focus on the negative comments
I'm extremely happy with my SGS2. Comparing it to my Nexus S, DHD, Dell Streak, SGT and HD7, I have no complaints at all.
I will buy the HTC Sensation/Pyramid when it comes out, which will be a mistake (locked bootloader), I will set it up and then put it in a drawer forever.
If anyone doesn't like their SGS2, simply take it back. I will be keeping mine. It is amazing.
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If you think desire and Desire HD has better sound, you need your ears checked.
Desire HD is horrid, absolutely horrid when it comes to sound. It does not even give you proper stereo effects. Its a disaster.
That 1 point made me ignore whatever rest you said.
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he is talking about the sound volume level thru headphones i believe. and since tons of other people claim the SGS2 has poor headphone volume, i think he is telling the truth. just look around the forum, the posts are everywhere.
Exactly I was talking about headphones...I think that I will try a substitution to see if another sgs2 is different
I used GPS + Google Nav for over 5 hours straight 2 days ago... not a single overshoot, random jump to an adjacent street, arrow spinning around at a stop light, lost signal, etc. I don't know what the GPS complaints are about as I also own an unbranded i9000, but the SGSII's GPS/Nav performance is VOLUMES better than the i9000 GPS was even with both software and hardware tweaks.
Agreed on the WIFI though, WIFI does seem a bit weaker, but then again, the SGS's WIFI wasn't that great either. The plus side is, I do find the mobile reception much better than the SGS... my house is at the edge of coverage, and I could barely get a signal at times with the SGS. SGSII pulls H+ with no problems at my house.
At the end of the day, you're packing in WIFI, multiple GSM/UTMS, bluetooth bands, GPS all into one very slim device with limited real estate, I figured one of the antennas would be weaker. This time around, it looks like it's WIFI that suffers.
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he is talking about the sound volume level thru headphones i believe. and since tons of other people claim the SGS2 has poor headphone volume, i think he is telling the truth. just look around the forum, the posts are everywhere.
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Heh, even I reported that volume is on lower side compared to other phones in that audio thread as soon as I got my SGS2.
But I would still take sgs2 volume over unacceptable stereo output of Desire HD.
Volume is actually sufficient if you have iems with decent isolation. Over ear headphones might be a problem.
Sent magically from Samsung Galaxy S 2.
Never have a single sudden reboot on my phone( maybe it reboots during my [email protected]@)
Coming from an ip4, the soud via headphone is rather bad, hopes voodoo will make it better
Nothing to complain with my phone.
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Don't return the phone, there's nothing wrong with it.
I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership so I think I'm pretty well equipped to say whats normal for these phones and whats not.
- Wifi
Wifi reception IS poor. My old HTC Desire and my girlfriends HTC Desire both get MUCH better range on the wifi than the Galaxy S2. The range on all the Galaxy S2's I've had has been the same - poor. This is a common complaint about the G2. Anyone who says they don't have this problem either has no idea what good wifi range is, or is just lying out of their ass.
- Screen
The screen does indeed have a blueish tint on it. There's a thread about it on these forums. Nothing we can do about that. Again, another common issue to all G2's.
Also the some other issues you have mentioned. Touch screen sensitivity is on the low side, you can tap the screen lightly and quickly enough so that it doesn't register an input. This is impossible to do on a HTC Desire.
Also the pixel response time is said to be 0.001ms by Samsung, but this is a load of crap. It works out closer to 6-8ms, as evident when scrolling black text on a white background (or vice versa) the text will blur slightly.
- GPS
The GPS is pretty poor at the moment, hopefully it improves with updates, majority of people are complaining about this, myself included. None of the 4 G2's I had could get a quick lock on GPS (they take flipping ages). The GPS is REALLY hit and miss at the moment.
- Random Reboots
This is a REALLY REALLY common issue. It's been reported everywhere. However, depending on the frequency of the reboots would determine whether or not I'd class it as faulty. Of all the G2's I've had, NONE of them have randomly rebooted. However if yours has rebooted like once or twice over the week, I'd count that as normal, happens on a few android phones. But if it does it anymore than that, get it replaced.
- Poor Sound Output
This is completely subjective. But I have an expensive amp and speaker setup that I use on my PC which I've got used to so I'm really picky about sound quality and yes I agree, the sound output is abit naff. But it's not terrible by any means. I can live with it.
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1) What you mean by wifi range? I always get full bar anywhere in my house except my backyard with 3 bars.
2) Screen? Don't really care about it. And I think average consumer too dont really care about the tint.
3) GPS locked in 3sec everytime i use it. Never got disconnect or any other problem.
4) Random reboots? Really? I've seen those thread about it but tbh i never encounter this kind of issues.
5) Sound quality is not important to me. A decent one would be enough. Without using earphone, I prefer SGS II than my DHD. But when using earphone DHD is much better. And yes this is very subjective.
After following a few thread about SGS II problem I'm glad that my SGS II doesn't have it. So far i'm happy with my phone and it does whatever I want. In the end of the day there is no perfect phone in this world and everyone wants more and more. Is hard to pleased tech gadget but I think for average consumer this phone is good enough at the moment.
i actually like this phone lol
I guess people from first batch was the lucky ones. I'm not having any of the listed issue.
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Nope, even people who got their GS2 on release have been having issues (like me)
oh maaan, i was about to purchase this phone in the coming month. and was expecting this phone's volume to be powerful just like my omnia hd. but.... it disappointed me, sh......t wat the hell is this. ok is there any one who can confirm whether this problem [ headphone volume] can be fixed by xda xperts .plzz
weird. no problems here, and I had two gs2's, since the first one had a dead pixel, so I exchanged it.
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sajadkhan806 said:
oh maaan, i was about to purchase this phone in the coming month. and was expecting this phone's volume to be powerful just like my omnia hd. but.... it disappointed me, sh......t wat the hell is this. ok is there any one who can confirm whether this problem [ headphone volume] can be fixed by xda xperts .plzz
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I think I saw in code somewhere in GS2, don't remember where, that it sets limit because of EU(we have laws for max. volume). I think we'll have to look that way, but it seems to be a good reason.
With PowerAmp & EQ "Phone Speaker Loud" it is loud enough for me .