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[Q] Port backup from Hero to DesireHD?

Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.

Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup

I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary

Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps

christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom

Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.

You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
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I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Best program when getting a new phone?

What is the best program (for a non rooted phone) for backing up and restoring all Apps etc to a new phone? I am getting my don a new phone and thought I'd ask the smarties in the community. Please

Well, since its a new phone, I would start fresh and redownload your necessary programs. More or less, you're going to say to yourself "do I really need this program?" when you look back at the apps you currently have. Also, some programs may be incompatible with your new phone (especially between major android versions).

I am pretty sure you have to have a rooted phone to be able to do this with titanium backup.

Astro file manager is capable of backing up and restoring apps without requiring root. My wife uses it on her stock MT4G.
However, I'm not sure if it will work on a completely new phone...it might though. You'd obviously have to transfer the backed up information from the old phone's sd to the new one.

why not just root? you can always unroot afterwards.

probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger

DR-EVIL23 said:
probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
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How remarkably off topic...thank you. Lol
Edit: Just realized you were likely responding to the title of the thread, not the actual question in the OP. I retract my remark, even though I was just playing around.
Sent from my Vibrant using XDA App

best program for getting a new android phone would have to be superuser imo

Deodex an existing ROM?

Hi folks,
I think I know the answer to this already but I'm asking anyway just in case... is it possible to deodex a device as-is? Meaning, if I have stock EI22 installed, can it be deodexed in place?
I'd like to be able to run K0nane's CIQ remover script but its only for deodexed ROMs and I'm real happy with the stability & config of my phone now so flashing a new ROM and setting everything up again is an idea that doesn't thrill me.
Thanks,
Frank

No. Use a back up app to save system settings and apps, and flash the desired rom.

fzammetti said:
Hi folks,
I think I know the answer to this already but I'm asking anyway just in case... is it possible to deodex a device as-is? Meaning, if I have stock EI22 installed, can it be deodexed in place?
I'd like to be able to run K0nane's CIQ remover script but its only for deodexed ROMs and I'm real happy with the stability & config of my phone now so flashing a new ROM and setting everything up again is an idea that doesn't thrill me.
Thanks,
Frank
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You can flash the stock deodexed rom found in the development forum
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

Then do an advanced restore of /data and everything will be just how you had it.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Could you please explain that last part, doing an advanced restore of /data? How would you do that? (I'm new.)
I'm with the original poster -- flashing a ROM and then having to reinstall apps and set up everything again isn't exactly the most appealing thing. And if I want to change ROMs for any reason, I'd have to do it all again (right?). If there is some relatively quick and easy way to restore things to make that process easier, I'd like to know more about it. So far, it seems like using Titanium Backup or the like is what most people suggest, but if there's another option, it would be good to know it as well. Thanks.

If you're rooted and have clockworkMod installed as your custom recovery you can copy and "image" of the phone system and data drives. (System and data are on separate partitions, like a c:\> and d:\> drives on a computer. You can use clockworkMod to just restore the data image back to the data partition and it will be just like you had it. Icons on your home screen, your place in angry birds, alarms, vol. Settings. It is a wonderful thing to have, even if you just want stock.

Thanks for the info. I did recently root my phone and have the ACS recovery installed, so I should be able to do this if needed/wanted. Not to sidetrack the original thread too much, but are there any particular pros or cons to this method? It seems a bit easier, but would there be reasons to prefer something like Titanium Backup over this type of data restore? I'm not very familiar with these sorts of things (this is my first time rooting), so I'm trying to make sure I understand the options and what they do. Thanks.

In the case the OP states it would be nearly identical roms so there should be little to no conflict with a data restore. I've been moveing my data. Like this from froyo EC05 thru all the leaks and now to offical GB. But if I didn't want to stay on a leaked GB and I wanted to move to a froyo rom or back to stock I would use my titanium to move a few apps at a time bec,ause the data in gb is a little differnt and might not migrate proper.

[Q] backup question

so i know how to do a backup of my apps (usually using super manager). but everytime i install a new rom or an update to a rom, i have to go through the process or putting all my icons back up where they belong. what is everyone doing for backup to simplify this process so i can flash a new version of a rom and still maintain my home screen

VM0824 said:
so i know how to do a backup of my apps (usually using super manager). but everytime i install a new rom or an update to a rom, i have to go through the process or putting all my icons back up where they belong. what is everyone doing for backup to simplify this process so i can flash a new version of a rom and still maintain my home screen
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I wish I had an answer cuz I do the same but with tibu. I also utilize the backup settings in the launcher I use. Tedious process, but unless there's an easier way and someone chimes in, its what I have to do.

There seems to be a way to integrate Titanium Backup, though I find it easier to just set it all back up. It doesn't really take that long using the Market (Playnugget) on my laptop and just send them all. Check out the last few pages in Notorius's thread on Neutrino. Erebus was talking about it.

[Q] Root DHD for Jelly bean with full back up?

First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!

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lordaccess said:
First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, its really simple to find information about rooting the DHD. Try this to root your phone http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/. A complete backup without root is not possible. But you can backup your personal user data with various backup tools which you can find in the play store.

lordaccess said:
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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If you need to downgrade before root (Some firmwares do), you will loose everything. But after root, your contacts and apps should load again from Google Play (if you checked "backup my phone" in settings). After root, you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps with data, so when you change ROMs, you don't have to reinstall everything from Google Play and you won't lose settings/progress. But I think that Titanium wouldn't work on unrooted phones... so most probably you must loose settings/progress once, in order to root.
You might be able to backup your SMSes with SMS Backup and Restore (available on Play)
When you root you download everything from Google Play, just as always. This is NOT similar to "jailbraking", Android is not closed as iOS. Rooting means you have access to SYSTEM files.

lordaccess said:
First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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Use mybackup from Play Store and you can backup all your information without root. With root you are able to backup all the rom to a certain point in time.

glevitan said:
Use mybackup from Play Store and you can backup all your information without root. With root you are able to backup all the rom to a certain point in time.
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Just curious: does MyBackup back up app data as well as apps without root?

bananagranola said:
Just curious: does MyBackup back up app data as well as apps without root?
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Great advice! Btw from what I read it backs up everything except app data. I wonder if there is a folder I can copy paste when I see my device as a hard drive that has the app data inside.
Also with the MyBackup I can restore everything after I root my phone? In the rooted version I mean?

lordaccess said:
Great advice! Btw from what I read it backs up everything except app data. I wonder if there is a folder I can copy paste when I see my device as a hard drive that has the app data inside.
Also with the MyBackup I can restore everything after I root my phone? In the rooted version I mean?
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The reason I asked about app data is because I was under the impression that rooting gives you access to the partitions where that app data is stored; without root, you can't access where the app data is stored (and so the copy-paste plan is probably impossible). App data is where app settings are saved; without it, MyBackup restores apps as if they were freshly installed from the Play Store, without any other settings saved.
Apps like MyBackup and Titanium Backup and App Manager generally back things up to your sdcard, which isn't affected by any of AAHK's functions.
Like someone above said, if you need to downgrade back to Froyo, I'm not aware of a method by which you can save all your apps and their data.
By the way, I believe an app called Go Backup (not Go Backup Pro) also lets you back up apps (and only apps, not data) without root.

You can backup programs with My Phone Explorer, but programs are not an issue - they will be downloaded automatically from Play Store...

dalanik said:
You can backup programs with My Phone Explorer, but programs are not an issue - they will be downloaded automatically from Play Store...
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For some reason, Google's app sync doesn't work sometimes for me on certain ROMs. I'm not sure why; I never looked into it, since I usually back my apps up with App Manager anyway.

@lordaccess
here i a link to Advanced Hack Kit the one in the post above is dead. the author of the hack kit took it down
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?cws4i8cclb93s4v
remember to read the ENTIRE effin manual!!!

bananagranola said:
For some reason, Google's app sync doesn't work sometimes for me on certain ROMs. I'm not sure why; I never looked into it, since I usually back my apps up with App Manager anyway.
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True, but you can always go to Play on a computer and your purchased apps and "send" them to phone... yes, a bit of work, but better than nothing, at least there's a list of apps and it's easier to install them from computer than from a phone

dalanik said:
True, but you can always go to Play on a computer and your purchased apps and "send" them to phone... yes, a bit of work, but better than nothing, at least there's a list of apps and it's easier to install them from computer than from a phone
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Kinda discouraged to do the root if I can't save the app data :/ I will look at what I will lose and how easy I can regain them and decide. In the meantime does anyone know why my address book doesn't sync with google? (even though the sync is on)

Try to put as much files as you can in the cloud. Make screenshots of other information that you want to keep. Make a back up of your SD-card.

TheJokah said:
@lordaccess
here i a link to Advanced Hack Kit the one in the post above is dead. the author of the hack kit took it down
remember to read the ENTIRE effin manual!!!
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You shouldn´t use a mirror for the Hack Kit. You don't own it and therefore won't support it. Besides the Kit has been updated lately so, please remove the link and direct people to attn1's site.
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74

lordaccess said:
Kinda discouraged to do the root if I can't save the app data :/ I will look at what I will lose and how easy I can regain them and decide. In the meantime does anyone know why my address book doesn't sync with google? (even though the sync is on)
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Consider purchasing Titanium Backup (or trying out out the trial version). It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.