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Available onboard memory for applications?

This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA

1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.

I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?

Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.

I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?

The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.

Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.

yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card

SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.

Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted

igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks

vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.

fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.

"removed external sd card"

Ok, I have a Samsung Fascinate.
Rooted, CWM, ROM Manager, Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, SetCPU, ASTRO, JT 1000 voodoo kernel with animation.
Ok the problem is and I am almost certain that what caused it is flashing JT's 1000 kernel over top the original 0.2 JT voodoo kernel. However I had read in the forums that people have done this with no problem and I believe in the install thread it says you CAN do it with indeed no problems. However soon after doing the flash everything was working great and I took a couple pictures at dinner which is how I know it was working. Later last night I went to take another picture while out and it wouldn't let me because the SD card wasn't being detected.
I have a sd card reader but not with me and won't until I get home later tonight but I figured maybe until then I can get some help to how to fix it for when I do get home.
I have took a 8gb mini sd from my girlfriends HTC Eris and put it in just to see if it would read which it does perfectly fine. However you plug my 16gb back into the phone and it doesn't even recognize plugging it into the phone.
Any ideas?

all the views and no replies?
any ideas would help guys!

Sounds like your sd card is corrupted. Did you try the card in another phone? Try to reformat the card.
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Copperhed said:
Sounds like your sd card is corrupted. Did you try the card in another phone? Try to reformat the card.
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the back up that I made and all, wouldn't that be on the sd card though?
I would think trying to save the card would be a better choice at first eh?

anyone else?

vecchioni27 said:
anyone else?
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If the card works in another device, then I would wonder if the problem could be voodoo specific, such as the 0 internal memory issue. As far as I know, the only fix for that is the complete voodoo removal process, and a wipe in both stock recovery and cwm.
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Daswolven said:
If the card works in another device, then I would wonder if the problem could be voodoo specific, such as the 0 internal memory issue. As far as I know, the only fix for that is the complete voodoo removal process, and a wipe in both stock recovery and cwm.
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I tried to put the card into my sd card reader on the computer and it wont read it...assuming its a bad card. When its in the phone the sd card reader slot heats up too a massive HOT temp really quick within second and doesn't do anything. I guess I am gonna unroot using another sd card and take the phone to verizon and be like wtf....

I un-rooted and am gonna take the phone to the verizon store.
I plugged a 1GB from my old phone into the sd card slot and re-flashed CWM to see if I just removed the kernel's if maybe that would fix the sd card but I am almost positive its the sd card that is fried somehow...But it put the phone back to stock except it was rooted...not sure how that happened but i guess everything was on the sd card that I had done???
So confused but basically I am just gonna goto the store get a new card when they realize mine is bad and then re-do everything...Just never flashing a kernel on top of another one again whether people say its safe or not!

vecchioni27 said:
I un-rooted and am gonna take the phone to the verizon store.
I plugged a 1GB from my old phone into the sd card slot and re-flashed CWM to see if I just removed the kernel's if maybe that would fix the sd card but I am almost positive its the sd card that is fried somehow...But it put the phone back to stock except it was rooted...not sure how that happened but i guess everything was on the sd card that I had done???
So confused but basically I am just gonna goto the store get a new card when they realize mine is bad and then re-do everything...Just never flashing a kernel on top of another one again whether people say its safe or not!
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I can assure you that had nothing to do with your card. Sometimes you get a bad lot. I order about one a month for various things, and have had to RMA here and there. I swapped the one my phone adopted with for an 8gb class 10 anyway, because the stock are class 2.
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Daswolven said:
I can assure you that had nothing to do with your card. Sometimes you get a bad lot. I order about one a month for various things, and have had to RMA here and there. I swapped the one my phone adopted with for an 8gb class 10 anyway, because the stock are class 2.
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I am a bit confused...it sounds like you said it had nothing to do with the card but then went on to say how you RMAed a few here and there and such...lol

vecchioni27 said:
I am a bit confused...it sounds like you said it had nothing to do with the card but then went on to say how you RMAed a few here and there and such...lol
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Lol. I mean to say the kernel flashing cannot cause the sd card to fail. The card was probably bad to begin with. A bogus card will simply fail, sometimes after functioning fine for awhile.
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Daswolven said:
Lol. I mean to say the kernel flashing cannot cause the sd card to fail. The card was probably bad to begin with. A bogus card will simply fail, sometimes after functioning fine for awhile.
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oh ok, makes sense now...however a bad sd card pretty much screws me over because that is what held everything on it including the kernel and such along with all my apps?

vecchioni27 said:
oh ok, makes sense now...however a bad sd card pretty much screws me over because that is what held everything on it including the kernel and such along with all my apps?
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No. the install file for the kernel, but that installs it on the phone. Apps are stored on the internal memory, not the sd card. Pretty much, it just holds your music, pictures, application data in some instances (not the app itself), and any files you need to flash.
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Daswolven said:
No. the install file for the kernel, but that installs it on the phone. Apps are stored on the internal memory, not the sd card. Pretty much, it just holds your music, pictures, application data in some instances (not the app itself), and any files you need to flash.
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So when I get my new sd card tomorrow and load launcher pro back onto the phone, my apps should still be on the phone??
what if I can't even download launcher pro due to this problem of it not letting me download an app because it says I don't have enough internal memory available...

Whoa.
Now that problem is the internal memory issue, not the external sd card. That is voodoo related, and the post about completely removing voodoo addresses it. I ran into that once, and it took about soften minutes to fix following those instructions.
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vecchioni27 said:
So when I get my new sd card tomorrow and load launcher pro back onto the phone, my apps should still be on the phone??
what if I can't even download launcher pro due to this problem of it not letting me download an app because it says I don't have enough internal memory available...
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If its internal and not your sdcard here is your solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784

nemesis2all said:
If its internal and not your sdcard here is your solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
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awesome, thanks!

Mod for Encreasing The internal memory??

Excuse me, is there any mod for increasing your internal memory like galaxy s3 having your micro sd like internal memor??
Thanks!!

23Kie said:
Excuse me, is there any mod for increasing your internal memory like galaxy s3 having your micro sd like internal memor??
Thanks!!
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nope, that requires repartitioning so that the sizes are split differently in the internal memory...i don't think anyone cares about this as long as the phone supports 64GB external.... the method was used for reviving the superbricked phone a year ago on ICS smaller system partitions resulted in a successful booting rom but with less storage.

But is there any way for installing all app and games in micro sd like kernel perseus whick allow install all in microsd whatever app or game
Thanks!!!

REVERSiN said:
nope, that requires repartitioning so that the sizes are split differently in the internal memory...i don't think anyone cares about this as long as the phone supports 64GB external.... the method was used for reviving the superbricked phone a year ago on ICS smaller system partitions resulted in a successful booting rom but with less storage.
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That's the ****ty thing with the S4, can't move apps to SD card
23Kie said:
But is there any way for installing all app and games in micro sd like kernel perseus whick allow install all in microsd whatever app or game
Thanks!!!
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I've had luck with the FolderMount, liked it and bought the full version. There's a thread for it in the themes and apps section
PS. You should open new threads in the right sections :good:

There was a mod on the S3 that swapped the internal and SD memory - i.e. it fooled the system in thinking the SD card was internal.
Give it time, im sure the mod will become available - you will probably need to root

xmsnx said:
That's the ****ty thing with the S4, can't move apps to SD card
I've had luck with the FolderMount, liked it and bought the full version. There's a thread for it in the themes and apps section
PS. You should open new threads in the right sections :good:
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funny thing is i didn't know that hehe i have the phone in my closet for about two weeks now i don't use it since iam waiting for my case and SP to arrive since i ordered them from ebay.... bad luck XD
ardsar said:
There was a mod on the S3 that swapped the internal and SD memory - i.e. it fooled the system in thinking the SD card was internal.
Give it time, im sure the mod will become available - you will probably need to root
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AFAIK the trick was modifing the vold.fstab file in system/etc/ still i think its useless since the most space is set on internal sd and not the system swapping them makes your storage space even less than it already is...who wants that to happen ?
he can get a light ROM i've seen one in the forums calles biochemical TW i think not quite sure which is 800MB well stripped but still he can add what he needs only and not get to the crazy 1.5 GB system

How to save/move Apps to SD card?

Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?

You cant... its because Google decided to restrict it in 4.4

Cobman said:
Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?
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You can't, read about the restrictions of KitKat. and if you have root you can use an app to do that.

Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?

Fadeless said:
Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?
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I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".

Xernoxis said:
I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".
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What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.

Fadeless said:
What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.
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So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.

Xernoxis said:
So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.
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What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.

Fadeless said:
What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.
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You should be able to save photos/videos to SD card still (there's an option in the camera app).

There is an option to transfer data like videos, photo's & music in "storage" , which I know does not solve the problem but is good news for Z2 developers because this shows that it's possble to do it & create roms with that purpose in mind...

There's no problem on galaxy devices coz their native folder manager "My files" bypasses this restriction.
I hope Sony creates their own native manager to fix that!
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Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!

argelb said:
Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!
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Try a Xposed module named XInternalSD

Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.

mariusfl0rian said:
Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.
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Free version should work also, I believe difference is in number of pairs allowed.

Thanks for the reply guys! I tried folder mount and it indeed worked for me. But i have another concern, i dont know if its just my phone or others are also having this issue. Do you have problem installing some apps? It says No space available but i still have 9gb available in my internal card. Hope u can suggest what i can do to install any app i want. Thank you!

So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.

higgs_ said:
So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.
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Let's go out on a limb here but have you tried folder mount?

Still can't do it with new update?
So let me get this straight, even with the new update(4.4.4), you still can't move apps to sdcard on the Z2???
I'm unrooted/stock, just got the device, but I'm shocked to know this, I should've looked more into it before making the purchase. I have link2sd, and I noticed it just takes me to the app in app info(which I could do by myself through settings), and I still don't have an option to move apps to sd card.
Am I missing something? I have to root to move apps to sdcard with the z2 on the latest stock rom and firmware??
I didn't want to start a new thread and saw this one, among others.

Apps on SD Card

I loved Stock Android around when KitKat was out, but I came to hate it when Lollipop came out. I decided to get the Moto X and try out Marshmallow, but I'm already running into problems with/hating Google's (and Motorola's) oversimplified features.
Usually when I get a phone a put in an SD card so I can store some apps and data on there, as well as music, pictures, files, etc. that has been on the card for years. I pop in the SD card to the 16 gig phone ready to move Spotify and some other apps to the card, but then I run into that whole "format as internal storage. It says that formatting it will wipe the card (obviously), but it also says once I do I will only be able to use the SD card with this device, and when I asked a friend for help, she said I wouldn't be able to transfer data from the card anymore either.
I started searching everywhere on the internet for a workaround, but I can't find anything. Is there any workaround with this? I'm already rooted and on a ROM so I'm open to any suggestions. If not I'm just going to sell the phone or downgrade to lollipop.

Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Sheetzie03 said:
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?

coolwiththecool2 said:
Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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The problem is Marshmallow wants me to format my SD card as internal storage just to store apps on it, and I am trying to find a way to store apps on there without formating it, as I've been doing with all previous Android versions.

I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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Sheetzie03 said:
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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I don't want to use the adaptable storage because I will only be able to use the SD card with this phone and I won't be able to transfer data from it either.
This is a problem because I currently use the SD card between two phones, as a makeshift flash drive, and as storage for my DSLR so I can edit photos with my phone.

I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.

Yeah, Motorola removed the Move to SD card feature in favor of "the richer experience natively provided by Android."
I think you can use TWRP "Partition SD Card" to create 2 partitions on the SD, though... a FAT32 partition to share with your other devices and an EXT4 partition that you can use to store apps. You'll need an android app like Mounts2SD to copy apps to/from the external storage.
The other option is to downgrade to 5.1.1 or use a 6.0 ROM that still has the old Move to SD card feature. I'm not sure if there are any, though.

gpz1100 said:
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
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To the op Sorry man, I didn't really know all this. But this post seems to explain it pretty well. Looks like you may have to sell or downgrade. That sucks.
As far as this specific post is concerned, I'm trying to follow my best. As you said, best would be to buy at least at 32gb well some, including me have already bought a 16gb, unfortunately. Personally, iv chose to use adaptable now that twrp 3.0 is out. When i Install apps, wherever they go is where they go. After seeing this thread, I'm thinking maybe there is way to do things a different way to save some space. I went ahead and went into apps and tried moving Spotify from internal to SD card. but after I did this, I noticed every time I close the app it signs me out lol wth... that's a problem. I didn't know why it was doing that. Is this an example of an app not being able to run correctly on the SD rather than internal? Also, i tried moving maps from internal to sd, seemed to be running fine, but shortly after, i noticed on a reboot, it somehow uninstsalls. Its gone as if i uninstalled it manually but i obv did not. Like what? How is this even possible. I wanted to give you a few examples of what i tried and what was happening. But I asked myself why am I even doing this, is it to save space? If it is, that's fine.
But yeah man, it seems you know more than me about this , that's safe to say. But based on what iv written here, can you give me some advice on things to do if I'm using the adaptable storage option. Should I be moving apps? Why? Which ones? Or just leave things as is? Again i have a 16gb model with a 32gb card running adaptable storage. If there are ways to save space by moving apps certain places I'm fine with that. I'd just like to get your opinion on what exactly I should be doing based on the model I have, size card, and running adaptable storage. Hey sorry too bother you about this. I had noticed you replied to the op of this topic and you know what you are talking about.
And to the op, sorry if iv hijacked your post man.
Peace
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Yeah I should have gotten the 32gb version, although it's kind of my fault because I already had a negative opinion of post-kitkat stock Android yet I got the device anyways. Maybe I can resell the device on swappa and get a 32gb version instead of buying a new one, mainly because the only two phones of the 2015 generation I have interest in is the Moto X Pure and the One M9. Worst case scenario is settling for Samsung (as oneplus said, never settle)
To make matters worst, I temporarily moved all the data to my computer and formated the SD card as internal as a test, only to find out the two apps I put on there don't want to act properly because the SD card is too slow (which is why the feature shouldn't even be here in the first place).
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If I do do one of those options it would most likely be the second one because last time I messed with partitions on an SD card I, somehow, bricked the phone. I could look for a tutorial somewhere, but this phone's XDA forums is relatively quiet compared to other phones I've had (especially Android development).

@Sheetzie03, I can't help you with adoptable space as it's not something I have much experience with. It could be spotify relies on other components which are not accessible when on the sd.