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Man I love having everything that could be fun and useful on my G1, so far I am at 149 apps. How many does everyone else have? Also this doesnt hurt the SD card holding all this does it? =/
Anyways last night, some new apps came up like a G1 FTP Server for file transferring. So thats nifty. ConnectBot is good too.
Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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There is a difference between how many applications you have installed versus how many applications you have running.
I tell people who ask that I have maybe 13k mp3's on my computer and the common response is "omg your computer must be so slow!"
wtf?
Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
Correlation does not imply causation
Ah while I understand your post, the G1 is a tad different. Afterall the Apps ARE installed to the SD. As you know the G1 itself if "running" too many apps would cause it to lag up. However having alot of apps too I dont know if it slows down the G1 by trying to have it all show up or so. Imagine this. You have EVERYTHING on your Windows Desktop, that has been known to cause slowdowns too, Its not running but the system still maps to it and tracks it so to say.
Plus some apps install and auto run in the background. Since its loading off the SD, depending on the class of your SD it could cause sluggishness I would say.
Not sure what the count is exactly, but I have backups on my sd card, my netbook, and my laptop. Sometimes I download apps, back them up, uninstall and just store them on my comp just incase I might need them someday. Haha
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Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
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I have ten apps installed.
By the way, while apps that are not running will not cause slowdown perse, some apps start background services or periodic recurring timers (e.g. Loopt, Twidroid) which can cause slowdown.
I have 368 Applications. only problem- HOME SCREEN RELOADS AFTER COMING OUT OF APP
368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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i have a lot of things. All gameloft games(Bought it from xda user gameloft) all ea games(from handloft.com), Snesoid, Gnesoid, Jrioni terminal(for gp2x), Sim Checker Cupcake, Nesoid,Youtube downloader, Steamy window, Spray can, Meridian, Mechanics TOuch, Military Madness, VNC Viewer, Phone MY PC, IM+, Better Keyboard, Blues etc. These are some of the apps i can remember. I dont install apps that suck . They are 368 +. A week ago with aTrackdog they were 368. I use Swapper, SetCPU to run my phone smoothly. They really help. I have windows X, Debian etc. running too. 1200+ songs, 3+ movies
Swapper, what about the warnings about how bad that actually is?
Also Windows X and Debian, tell me how are those and is there a guide somewhere to get info on it and easy to setup?
Military Madness...? WHERE?! I love games like Battle Isle!
SetCPU tell me about it some, Ive been wondering about it but is OCing really worth it on the G1?
Kk I found a xwindows/debian guide.
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=1615
Everything i use is worth using coz i have to use them regularly. About swapper, most SD cards todayhave the power to cover the damage done(most class 6). So its worth. You should have root to enjoy your g1. SETCPU- my g1 is clocked at 528 MHz permanently so i dont experience lag.
Btw as you can tell another point of this thread is to get info on apps. =)
But online, got a link for a good class 6? Ive had issues trying to determine WHICH is a class 6 or what.. Upgraded to a 4GB Sandisk which runs better but I still am not sure its class.
Also Doesnt the setCPU drain your battery more? Any risks on that?
dont worry anout battery it is not much affected
i have about 135 apps
I am very picky about the apps I install on my devices. According to aTrackDog, there are 46 on my G1, but I probably use half of them. Time to do some cleaning
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This makes me feel a little better since I only have 314 lol. My ext3 partition is 2GB with Debian installed. No need to really delete anything
How many others here use SetCPU, whats stable, a solid increase and wont hurt the G1 or battery? Also yea, its nice to compare notes heh. Keep installing new apps all the time.
I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho.. Like add a "Apps added since you last checked" type of thing or DATE them. "Apps added on "x" date" cause its a pain to track them since looking last with so much junkware being added and your limited to scrolling. =/
atrackdog is least a VERY helpful tool.. if your G1 doesnt know its installed in the market. Least this app does..
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I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho..
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Some people still navigate the Market on their phone? I always use Cyrket (Newest Content category seems close to what you're looking for) and then when I find something of interest search for it directly on the phone.
Oh that website is nice, I have seen it, but doesnt help TOO much for installing it to your G1 Not like you can click on the website and have it install to the G1 like Xbox live lol.
Not to be a bother, but I have a few questions maybe a few of you could explain. But before I do I should prob say a few things about my general phone usage.
For the most part I use my phone for mostly texting. The reason I upgraded to a Nexus was to have a full touchscreen phone with a processor fast enough to keep up with touchscreen texting on the Android OS. Before this I owned a Mytouch which I then took back, and used 150 of the money to buy a g1 simply for the physical keyboard. I tried every rom mostly, and for some reason some even seemed faster on the g1 than the mytouch. The one I ended up sticking with was the MLIGN 32B. It worked without any problems and was pretty snappy. And from my understanding 32B relied more on A2SD due to less internal memory. On both roms 32A and 32B I never experienced much of a speed difference, and using my process manager, both roms seemed to contain the same amount of remaining memory after install. In the whole time I only really downloaded two apps, Root explorer and Task Panel.
Now on to the real question, about the memory on the Nexus. At first I flashed the Madaco rom on the phone with a a formatted swap-128mb/ext-1024 mb on a 4gb class 6 card, and installed only Task panel. My memory is at around 120 at the time after killing all apps. **Also not sure if I remember correctly but my memory is around 120 or 130 even with the factory rom, but that is based on memory and may not be correct.** Anyways...I reformated the card, swap-512/ext-1024, on the same 4gb card, and installed only task panel. After killing all apps, my phone still remains at 120 memory. So I switched cards to an plain jane formatted 16gb class 2, and things seem to run faster if not the same as the 4gb class 6.
Two or three questions result from this, as I understand the purpose A2SD and formatted memory cards are to extend the original memory of the phone and help performance a bit?
Yet unless task panel doesn't read all the extra partitions and gives false memory readings, I have yet to see a benefit to forrmatting an sd card, or using A2SD?
And I guess the final question is, what is the purpose of relying on artificial memory expansion, when we are striving for phones with more internal memory at the same time. After all that's why I upgraded to the Nexus, so I'd have to rely less on outside sources to make my phone's performance better. To me, I'd rather be able to rely on a rom that streamlines the space needed to allow the extra memory to go towards performance. Though I also don't download or install a lot of apps, keep that in mind. Nor am I trying to criticize any progress already made, just trying to understand it all.
So sorry if I sound completely off, or ignorant in my post, but I'm just trying to get more informed. So I will accept all forms of informative posts, flaming or not. Thanks.
RAM- amount of memory to run applications.
ROM- memory to store files.
Task manager is measuring your RAM, which A2SD has nothing to do with.
its not really needed but if you like lots off apps and big 3d games then it is. ive been with my nexus one for a week and a half, and am down to 82mb in internal phone storage. ive got a bunch of big 3d games that take up a lot of room. but for the everyday user, theres plenty of internal memory. almost 120mb more than the g1(74mb), about a total of 190mb. hope that helps.
Okay, thanks, for the most part those two simple answers clarify things. I guess I was under the impression that out of the 3 partitions (swap/ext/fat32) that the phone used one of them for a virtual memory, the way windows uses hard drive space for virtual memory if your ram usage is getting close to overflowing. Am I correct in assuming such, or does the phone in fact not use any of the partitions in this way?
Though if it does, which partition is used as virtual memory per say? Or are there not any add ons out for the nexus yet that incorporate such?
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Okay, thanks, for the most part those two simple answers clarify things. I guess I was under the impression that out of the 3 partitions (swap/ext/fat32) that the phone used one of them for a virtual memory, the way windows uses hard drive space for virtual memory if your ram usage is getting close to overflowing. Am I correct in assuming such, or does the phone in fact not use any of the partitions in this way?
Though if it does, which partition is used as virtual memory per say? Or are there not any add ons out for the nexus yet that incorporate such?
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It would be more accurate to say a2sd is necessary for (far) fewer people.
The swap partition in a conventional Linux system would be used as virtual memory. The stock ROM for the N1 is not configured to take advantage of swap however. It is possible that cyanogen or another ROM cook will enable it but, like a2sd, it is not as necessary as it was with the G1.
I think apps2sd isnt needed apps are usually smaller than 4MB plus will you actually use all those apps?
I have like 20apps atm and use like 10 of them.Others were good at the time i installed but are boring now.Im waiting for gameboid and the other apps to be in the market.Does anyone see raging thunder in market?
We need A2SD. I have done some research and there will be a plenty of 3D games witch will need plenty of storage some of them mite need 100+mb. So you do need A2SD and it will be nice to see what Google will com up with. Can't wait to see it.
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I think apps2sd isnt needed apps are usually smaller than 4MB plus will you actually use all those apps?
I have like 20apps atm and use like 10 of them.Others were good at the time i installed but are boring now.Im waiting for gameboid and the other apps to be in the market.Does anyone see raging thunder in market?
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lol, raging thunder is sweet on the n1. so is armageddon squadron, armored strike, call of duty, rs09 real soccer, sky force, speed forge 3d, toonwars, wave blazer, homerun battle 3d.... while most apps are under 4mb, some are 8, 10+. they add up. on top of games, i also have many other apps that i find useful. not all at once, but at times. why not have apps2sd as an option? i have 76 total apps and games right now, im down to 80mb. id like to download more apps in future. my g1 has 220 apps installed with 180mb left.
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lol, raging thunder is sweet on the n1. so is armageddon squadron, armored strike, call of duty, rs09 real soccer, sky force, speed forge 3d, toonwars, wave blazer, homerun battle 3d.... while most apps are under 4mb, some are 8, 10+. they add up. on top of games, i also have many other apps that i find useful. not all at once, but at times. why not have apps2sd as an option? i have 76 total apps and games right now, im down to 80mb. id like to download more apps in future. my g1 has 220 apps installed with 180mb left.
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I've been saying this in many of the discussions on a2sd for the N1. There are those who feel that it is not needed on the N1. However, there is less space on the N1 (appalling for 2010 and such a sweet device) than on the myTouch and we all had it on the myTouch. Given that there is less than 200MB of storage available for apps on the N1, unless we use a2sd we are doomed to using a small number of apps each being small in size. While I dislike just about everything about the iPhone, the one thing it has is the ability to install 100MB+ apps. While a2sd will allow this, these types of apps will not be created until there is official support for more storage, whether it's built-in or an a2sd implemented by Google (supposedly in the works but that basically means nothing until it's here).
Until the storage limits for downloaded apps is greatly relaxed (i.e. by apps2sd) we won't see as many really nice looking media rich apps as the iPhone and iPod Touch have. Most of the apps are multi-megabyte on that platform because there is no disincentive to including lots of media and taking up space like there is on non-rooted Android phones.
You can look at the current apps on the Android Market and come to the conclusion that apps2sd isn't a pressing need, but you'd be missing the bigger picture of all the apps that aren't there because nobody wants to download many multi-megabyte apps until we have essentially unlimited storage...
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I've saying this in many of the discussions on a2sd for the N1. There are those who feel that it is not needed on the N1. However, there is less space on the N1 (appalling for 2010 and such a sweet device) than on the myTouch and we all had it on the myTouch. Given that there is less than 200MB of storage available for apps on the N1, unless we use a2sd we are doomed to using a small number of apps each being small in size. While I dislike just about everything about the iPhone, the one thing it has is the ability to install 100MB+ apps. While a2sd will allow this, these types of apps will not be created until there is official support for more storage, whether it's built-in or an a2sd implemented by Google (supposedly in the works but that basically means nothing until it's here).
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Agreed , totally agree. hope Google can implement the offical a2sd soon, can not wait for that.
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I've saying this in many of the discussions on a2sd for the N1. There are those who feel that it is not needed on the N1. However, there is less space on the N1 (appalling for 2010 and such a sweet device) than on the myTouch and we all had it on the myTouch. Given that there is less than 200MB of storage available for apps on the N1, unless we use a2sd we are doomed to using a small number of apps each being small in size. While I dislike just about everything about the iPhone, the one thing it has is the ability to install 100MB+ apps. While a2sd will allow this, these types of apps will not be created until there is official support for more storage, whether it's built-in or an a2sd implemented by Google (supposedly in the works but that basically means nothing until it's here).
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absolutely agree. at the rate im going, im going to be out of internal storage memory by the end of this month. and by the way, i have both your apps on my g1 and cachemate on my nexus. both are extremely useful apps!
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absolutely agree. at the rate im going, im going to be out of internal storage memory by the end of this month. and by the way, i have both your apps on my g1 and cachemate on my nexus. both are extremely useful apps!
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Awesome. Since I haven't done a2sd on my N1 yet, I've once again realized the pressing need for my CacheMate. I don't know what non-root users do with all that junk on their devices (wish I would make it for non-root users). I really hope that I either don't need my app anymore or that it only has to be run once a month. This storage limitation is a joke. The first time I ran CacheMate on my N1 it cleared almost 50MB! That's 1/4 of the available space. I'd dump Android this phone if it wasn't rooted and I had to manually clear cache all day (I had CacheMate way before it came out ).
People can argue all night long as to whether or not app2sd is needed on the nexus one, but all I can say is that I love having it on mine. For one thing, I don't have to constantly check how much free space I have left on my phone nor do I have to regularly and manually clear my cache.
I know one guy on here who just got it setup on his n1 last night.
Before apps2sd, one of his apps kept crashing, after getting it setup on his nexus, he was very pleased.
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I don't know. I see a noticeable difference already in one of my apps. SPB TV doesn't crash anymore. 307mb ram and 183 rom. Cyanogen, man I don't know how you do it...I love b3 with with memory hack + apps2sd. Thanks man.
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I tought it would be nice to have a topic where folio 100 users could discuss good working games en applications...so here it is.
It would be nice if you could also tell us what firmware,rom, patches you are using.
Now on foliomod 1.3a
Officesuite running fine so adobe reader 10
Titanium backup perfectly
Games
Angry birds fullscreen
Buka hd ok
Tropical towers ok
Totemo HD sometimes needs to be restarded to correct some missing graphics
Castle warriors ok
Cestos runs only on small screen
Sent trom foliomod 1.3a
i'll only be posting perfectly working apps / games in this post, it will get updated.
GAMES
angry birds & seasons
reckless racing
pocket legends
air control (logisoft)
fruit ninja
dungeon defenders [first wave] (and it looks gorgeous on the 10")
zenonia 2
touch racing nitro
radiant HD (graphic glitches)
APPS
sketchbook express
tunein radio
yaaic
ebuddy
dropbox
look at my sig for mod info.
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i'll only be posting perfectly working apps / games in this post, it will get updated.
GAMES
angry birds & seasons
reckless racing
pocket legends
air control (logisoft)
fruit ninja
dungeon defenders [first wave] (and it looks gorgeous on the 10")
zenonia 2
radiant HD
APPS
sketchbook express
tunein radio
look at my sig for mod info.
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Nice, now a can install dungeon defenders
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Hey,
Thanks for the tips.
So far I've installed: (besides already mentioned stuff)
Games:
NinJump (Textures are not optimized for the resolution of Folio but it works just fine)
Aps:
Winamp
Last.fm
Dolphin Browser HD (loving this one!)
Please check the link bellow, There's toons of good apps and games for Android, I didn't test many, but sure some will work fine:
Have Fun,
Bastospn
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Please check the link bellow, There's toons of good apps and games for Android, I didn't test many, but sure some will work fine:
Have Fun,
Bastospn
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No man, please, only post app's you have tested
And no links to warez or other websites like them!!
(I don't think this is a legal website?!)
OpenTTD works like a charm on 1.2
I will test it on 1.3 too when I have time to upgrade. But I see no reason why it would not work.
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No man, please, only post app's you have tested
And no links to warez or other websites like them!!
(I don't think this is a legal website?!)
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I'm Sorry, i didn't realize that the site was illegal , i saw the link in the Toshiba Forum and at first it looked okay. I already unistalled all the apps i have downloaded.
I was wondering how people are able to download payed apps from within 1.3 foliomod. Do you know any legal site to do that?
Regards and again please excuse me for my mistake.
Bastospn
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I'm Sorry, i didn't realize that the site was illegal , i saw the link in the Toshiba Forum and at first it looked okay. I already unistalled all the apps i have downloaded.
I was wondering how people are able to download payed apps from within 1.3 foliomod. Do you know any legal site to do that?
Regards and again please excuse me for my mistake.
Bastospn
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hehe if you want you can install illegal app's, i don't care
It's just the link that is bad for everyone, because that way mod's can understand it as 'spreading and promoting illegal software'
You are right
I just updated dungeon defenders and i must say its much faster and stable now! This game is awesome, a must buy in my opinion! Great graphics, amazing gameplay, and for 2.99 is a bargain. Better than many expensive console games.
bastospn said:
I just updated dungeon defenders and i must say its much faster and stable now! This game is awesome, a must buy in my opinion! Great graphics, amazing gameplay, and for 2.99 is a bargain. Better than many expensive console games.
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Could you make a review? Because I don't understand the game and the goals :s
The game objective is to defend the cristals from the evil creatures that were accidentally released from inside one of this crystals were the anciens had locked them a long time ago. You have to place defenses and traps in stratagic points to keep the cristal safe. You will need mana to cast this defenses, and you get it by resisting through this waves of creatures. You also can improve or upgrade this defenses. When you are ready you touch the cristal and the enemy starts the attack. If the crystal is destroyed you lose. You get weapons and armour by defeating this bad guys and by openning treasure chests... there are lot of variations and options you can try. When your hero defeat a series of waves we eventually goes to another room. By the way you can see the number and type of this creatures by stepping near the doors.
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The game objective is to defend the cristals from the evil creatures that were accidentally released from inside one of this crystals were the anciens had locked them a long time ago. You have to place defenses and traps in stratagic points to keep the cristal safe. You will need mana to cast this defenses, and you get it by resisting through this waves of creatures. You also can improve or upgrade this defenses. When you are ready you touch the cristal and the enemy starts the attack. If the crystal is destroyed you lose. You get weapons and armour by defeating this bad guys and by openning treasure chests... there are lot of variations and options you can try. When your hero defeat a series of waves we eventually goes to another room. By the way you can see the number and type of this creatures by stepping near the doors.
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i wanna add a little tip to this great review, you can swap your hero in the build phase so you can diff types of deffence like those spike things with some kind of gun or trap behind it from one of the other hero's, also if when you swap heros you can drop the mana they have before you swap so the one you swap to can pick it up
as for apps i have found to work well
My Movies - movie database program
Pulse - rss newsreader
Tv Show Favs - to keep track of what tv show episode i have watched.
Tweetdeck - twitter app
Winamp - music player, though have not tested wifi sync being a linux user.
hi guys so i tried some good games like asphalt 5 & 6 or even fast 5 but it seems that they don't work , so i wonder to check what peaple have noticed about gaming in photon with android games. As android for phton is not officiel we can't see the compatibilty with those games.
So pls everyone who have tried a game and worked good for him , post the name of this game just to let us know what kind of game we can play with android
and thanks for reading
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hi guys so i tried some good games like asphalt 5 & 6 or even fast 5 but it seems that they don't work , so i wonder to check what peaple have noticed about gaming in photon with android games. As android for phton is not officiel we can't see the compatibilty with those games.
So pls everyone who have tried a game and worked good for him , post the name of this game just to let us know what kind of game we can play with android
and thanks for reading
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I play: Angry Birds, Robo Defense, Fruit Ninja...but i think all game for low-medium device can work on our Mini
Anyway Asphalt 5/6 need a phone with high performance as Lg Optimus...
Well i have tried and works perfect, FIFA 10, PES 2011, NFS SHIFT, ASPHALT 5 (kind of slowly), but there are many games that it can be installed even if i unmount sd card.
I don't have a photon but you can try these:
Age of Conquest Asia (Like Risk)
Age of Conquest N. America
Cut the Rope (obvious lol)
Need For Speed Shift (#1 outta top 3)
Drag Racing
Apparatus (Mind Opener)
Scrabble
I play these a lot and there great time killers. Give'em a try lemme know if you need help with any levels. ;o)
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch,
evO²·³·³
EVOlvedROM r3chargeD RC1
More Freedom v0.8.5+
thx guys for u r quick reply , i will try those games and hope that they will work for me
Well, anyone knows great 3D Car Race game for htc mini? must be good performance also nice 3D.
I don't know what a mini is lol but NFS Shift has awesome 3D graphics
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch,
evO²·³·³
EVOlvedROM r3chargeD RC1
More Freedom v0.8.5+
Do anyone have data of talking tom cat 2 for photon?
If somebody have it, plz put it here. because in our area we couldn't download it. (the sites are Filtered!)
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I don't know what a mini is lol but NFS Shift has awesome 3D graphics
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch,
evO²·³·³
EVOlvedROM r3chargeD RC1
More Freedom v0.8.5+
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Great Thanks.
fernando2610 said:
Well i have tried and works perfect, FIFA 10, PES 2011, NFS SHIFT, ASPHALT 5 (kind of slowly), but there are many games that it can be installed even if i unmount sd card.
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hi fernando,
how do you have installed those games (fifa 10, pes,ecc,)?? Because i can't install...For example i have installed Asphalt 5 from market (It's free!!!), but when i open it say "Your device isn't supported" and the game close...
And what mean "but there are many games that it can be installed even if i unmount sd card", what is unmount of sd card?? I can't understand...
Thnx in advance
P.S.: Sorry for the bad language, but I'm italian
MAX 94 said:
hi fernando,
how do you have installed those games (fifa 10, pes,ecc,)?? Because i can't install...For example i have installed Asphalt 5 from market (It's free!!!), but when i open it say "Your device isn't supported" and the game close...
And what mean "but there are many games that it can be installed even if i unmount sd card", what is unmount of sd card?? I can't understand...
Thnx in advance
P.S.: Sorry for the bad language, but I'm italian
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Some games have problems with an extra SD card. This card can be unmount via software. I think it's the last option in the settings menu.
ok thanks but i can't understand how ferninando's phone can run those games!!!
Hi i just search those games in mobile phone talk.com, and works perfect. You have to search ARM V6 processor. Unmount SD means, enter in settings, mass storage, unmount SD. Card. Any questions you have let me know
Sent from my HTC HDMini using xda premium
Thanks fernando for the reply
I searched for "hvga games" for lg p500,optimus one, ecc... but i couldn't install a lot of games ( i received this message "Application can't be installed" or in Asphalt 5 Free this message "Your phone is not supported
I will try to search like you and i will report the result
Thnx!!
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Hi i just search those games in mobile phone talk.com, and works perfect. You have to search ARM V6 processor. Unmount SD means, enter in settings, mass storage, unmount SD. Card. Any questions you have let me know
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READ ME
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fernando can you give your email, msn or facebook (or what do you want) that i want to contact you because i can't say nothing here!!!
[email protected]
Sorry i didn't know that.
Hey guys,
Does anyone happen to be in the same situation as me? My X-Play is now running a 2.3.3 and on 4.0.A.2.368 Build No. The normal phone usage goes so smoothly, unlike the HD gaming experience - it is sooooo sluggish!!! Lag every so often!!
BackStab HD, which was once an exclusive on X-Play, is lagging as hell. I mean, you can play it without problem, but the frame rate is slugging almost every 20 seconds.
Eternal Legacy, Dead Space (EA), Nova 2, are also lag. Anyone can give me an advice of what happens to my device or what is a fix? Do I need to overclock my x-play to play those titles smoothly?
Please do kindly advice.
I have played all those titles with a smooth framerate. Backstab only sliiightly lags in some spots, but never enough to really notice or care. This is at stock clock.
Sounds like you have a problem. As to what it may be I have no idea, haha. My best answer is to download a task manager like systempanel lite and see if any processes are taking up a significant amount of cpu.
A couple of hints which makes games less laggy:
1. Turn off your DSP/Equalizer program before starting a heavy game
2. If Backstab (or other) is lagging, press the start button to pause the game, wait for a couple of seconds and then resume it. The lag would be gone.
3. If you use SetCPU, change scaling to performance for the duration of play. (If not, then this step isn't recommended since i felt that ondemand scaling set on setcpu caused lag in some games , which disappeared when performance mode was selected - maybe when the scaling is not set by the program, the device defaults to performance during heavy operations)
speedyink said:
I have played all those titles with a smooth framerate. Backstab only sliiightly lags in some spots, but never enough to really notice or care. This is at stock clock.
Sounds like you have a problem. As to what it may be I have no idea, haha. My best answer is to download a task manager like systempanel lite and see if any processes are taking up a significant amount of cpu.
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Thanks man, I will do as you suggest.
BTW, I have the task killer and always use the app to kill other applications that can be killed before launching any games. Still, the problem is existed.
hasaan6545 said:
A couple of hints which makes games less laggy:
1. Turn off your DSP/Equalizer program before starting a heavy game
2. If Backstab (or other) is lagging, press the start button to pause the game, wait for a couple of seconds and then resume it. The lag would be gone.
3. If you use SetCPU, change scaling to performance for the duration of play. (If not, then this step isn't recommended since i felt that ondemand scaling set on setcpu caused lag in some games , which disappeared when performance mode was selected - maybe when the scaling is not set by the program, the device defaults to performance during heavy operations)
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Will do as you suggest and will leave the feedback later, thank you for sharing your idea.
I don't use SetCPU yet but I'm about to use it if overclocking is really needed here.
BTW, for the titles like Dead Space and Nova 2, I moved games to my 16GB Class 10 SD Card. Might this cause the problem? If it does, it still doesn't answer the BackStab question since the game doesn't allow me to move it to SD Card.
Thank you.
Aekio said:
Thanks man, I will do as you suggest.
BTW, I have the task killer and always use the app to kill other applications that can be killed before launching any games. Still, the problem is existed.
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Afaik it's a no no to use any form of task killer on android phones and i think that's where your problem lies.
Anyway read this:
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Regards Dousan...
Class 10 sd could be a problem
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Class 10 cards are known to have lagging issues. Best classes are 4 to 6.
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Task killer and class 10.. Bad combination.
I would recommend uninstalling that and using a class 4 or 6
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Afaik it's a no no to use any form of task killer on android phones and i think that's where your problem lies.
Anyway read this:
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Regards Dousan...
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Simmo3D said:
Class 10 sd could be a problem
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jgregoryj1 said:
Class 10 cards are known to have lagging issues. Best classes are 4 to 6.
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captain67 said:
Task killer and class 10.. Bad combination.
I would recommend uninstalling that and using a class 4 or 6
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Thanks for you guys info. About the task killer, I have heard something like this once and because of the lag that I decided to install task killer to see if it's ever helped. But right now, I could see no light on this application, I guess I will uninstall it.
And for the class 10 SD Card, this is my completely new knowledge. I used to believe that the class 10 SD Card would provide such a great speed and would cause less lag in performance. But thanks for you guys info, now I think I will move back to class 4 or 6, which is even cheaper.
Again, thank you very much.
Rule of thumb: say no to TASK KILLERS.
I posted this HERE already but I guess it's still a very good read:
narflynn619 said:
task killers as you all should know are not healthy for android phones. linux pools memory. it manages it on its own.
Here's a good article on this: Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn’t Use Them
In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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Thus, killing all but the essential apps (or telling Android to kill apps more aggressively with the "autokill" feature) is generally unnecessary. Furthermore, it's actually possible that this will worsen your phone's performance and battery life. Whether you're manually killing apps all the time or telling the task killer to aggressively remove apps from your memory, you're actually using CPU cycles when you otherwise wouldn't—killing apps that aren't doing anything in the first place.
In fact, some of the processes related to those apps will actually start right back up, further draining your CPU. If they don't, killing those processes can cause other sorts of problems—alarms don't go off, you don't receive text messages, or other related apps may force close without warning. All in all, you're usually better off letting your phone work as intended—especially if you're more of a casual user. In these instances, a task killer causes more problems than it solves.
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and oh, drop Class 10 cards. 4 and 6 are way better!
Afaik it's about the reading speed on the sdcards. The class 10 has a quicker writing speed than lower classes but has a slower reading speed than the lower classes. So that will affect smothness of games and etc. stored on the sdcard.
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My device is X-play, android v2.3.3, already rooted.
I downloaded "Dungeon II HD" but I couldn't expericene the real game. What I saw was kind of green background and a few text such as : New game, option, quit, etc.. There's no visual effect displayed on my device's screen.
I also try "Xperia Play" market where we can get Xperia Play optimised games. When I try to access download of "Fifa 12 HD" or "Nova 2 HD" or ".. whatever HD", the answer is "not compatible"
Does it mean that my phone can't play HD games? I'm using the stock rom and kernel, just root for installing some cool apps.
tuananh97kta said:
My device is X-play, android v2.3.3, already rooted.
I downloaded "Dungeon II HD" but I couldn't expericene the real game. What I saw was kind of green background and a few text such as : New game, option, quit, etc.. There's no visual effect displayed on my device's screen.
I also try "Xperia Play" market where we can get Xperia Play optimised games. When I try to access download of "Fifa 12 HD" or "Nova 2 HD" or ".. whatever HD", the answer is "not compatible"
Does it mean that my phone can't play HD games? I'm using the stock rom and kernel, just root for installing some cool apps.
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Download ''Market Enabler'' from market .
go to apps manager in setting and clear data of market .
run Enabler Market and let it get root permission then go to Setting list and click long on T-Mobile then choose "fake this provider now''.
Now you can buy whatever game you want.
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Download ''Market Enabler'' from market .
go to apps manager in setting and clear data of market .
run Enabler Market and let it get root permission then go to Setting list and click long on T-Mobile then choose "fake this provider now''.
Now you can buy whatever game you want.
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What about "Dungeon II HD"? I still have problem playing this game title. Just green background and text on the screen, even can't play the introduction video ( which pop-up as the game starts)
I have the same Problem. Could i have installed too many apps? I've got about 160.
a class 10 SD card is only good for digital cameras or video recorders that can record or take HD images and video. Other than that, a class 6 is perfect for our phones uses. As far as your games being on the SD, that only matter if the card itself is wonky. i have a few games on my SD, such as Dead Space, Battlefield Bad Company 2, and Modern Combat 3, and they all play perfectly fine, and im using a class 6, 16gb, Sandisk SD Card.
For general use and gaming, class 4 is the most effective.
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from what i understand the class 4 and class 6 cards have a better random read/write than the class 10
the class 10 is better for transfering larger files quicker and the class 4 and 6 are better for small files
please correct if im wrong
spikerosoft said:
from what i understand the class 4 and class 6 cards have a better random read/write than the class 10
the class 10 is better for transfering larger files quicker and the class 4 and 6 are better for small files
please correct if im wrong
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You're correct. And since games/apps often need to read small files frequently, class 10 can be problematic.
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