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New Galaxy S keep it or return it?

Hi everyone. I recently bought a Galaxy S (Bell Vibrant) for my wife, she saw it and really liked and i was pretty familiar with the specs and all that and all the good reviews so i jumped in and got it. Now since she has it (4 days) the phone has turned itself off for no reason twice and has also frozen a couple of times with one of them being when i was showing it to an apple fanboy (embarrassed). But anyway now my wife isnt very happy with it because she says it feels very light and cheap and she thinks it would break very easy and also complains about it turning off. Today she saw the icrap 4 in the store and she liked it and now she wants that . She says it feel that it wont break easy and its stylish . Now i dont like the iphone at all and i really dont want to return the SGS and get that but i want whats best for my wife. I just read so much on this forum about all the problems people have with this phone turning off, freezing,lag, screen problems, gps, touch buttons, bad audio quality and a few more... I wonder on the screen i dont know if it will last a year before it starts tint issues burn ins and so on. Now i want to know do you guys think this phone would last at least a year two and do you think all this stuff will be sorted out or should i get her the icrap 4. I really dont like that iphone but it seems suitable for my wife as all she wants is somthing that works takes decent pictures and looks good. Please let me know what you guys think as this is really pita.
Sorry for the long and confusing post..

you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back

Shes got her mind set on the Iphone4, get it and live happy. If not she'll be whinning about it til contract is up or divorce (which ever is faster)

ickyboo said:
Shes got her mind set on the Iphone4, get it and live happy. If not she'll be whinning about it til contract is up or divorce (which ever is faster)
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yup.. that's true, womens are like that.
it's either their way, or their way... they don't care for logic, reason, and never mention who's right, that doesn't exist in their world

AllGamer said:
you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back
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Yes i know how it is with Android as i am pretty familiar with it. I have a X10 myself and i love it to bits, i dont think im ready to switch it for an SGS. However i am not doubting the software of the SGS but the hardware, my main concern is the screen, i see a lot of people here that have problems with it so my concern is durabilty and lifespan i also see a lot of people on here who sent their phone for repair numerous times and that scares me. Now my wife is not set on the iphone as she is not a big fan of apple herself and shes heard me ***** about how bad and limited it is all the time but she just wants a reliable smartphone that she can depend on and not have it crap out by itself for no reason. She likes the SGS but she also likes the design of the crap 4 and she asked me if that would be more stable and not give problems. I told her that i am waiting on a update (froyo) and all the bugs will be probably fixed. Anyway like i stated before its the hardware thats is troubling me. Do you guys think it will last, more specifically the screen. Also can you recommend me wich firmware to use and wich lagfix? as i see there is a few out there, or should i wait for the official froyo release? Thank you for all your help, i really apreciate it.

AllGamer said:
yup.. that's true, womens are like that.
it's either their way, or their way... they don't care for logic, reason, and never mention who's right, that doesn't exist in their world
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Haha yes that is true. But the wife doesnt really care about the iphone and she is not set for it completly or somthing. She just said she likes the design lol. And if it would work better to get her that. So i am pretty unfamiliar with Samsung phones thats why im doubting it. I know all previous samsungs were crappy and buggy as hell and with weird menus etc.. So now we have the SGS wich is the first phone that i actually like from Samsung but i still have my doubts thats why i am asking you guys.

AllGamer said:
you keep the SGS and get her the "iwantwhateverybodywantsphone"
SGS is not for the normal person
SGS is for people with computer knowledge and linux understanding and windows haters
SGS is a amazing phone if you know how to use it, and keep it clean, the same techniques used in windows works the same in Android, and it does wonderful stuff
ironically in windows those solutions never last, in Android you do it once, and it remains forever set.
no GPS problem, no lag, no lag fix, no freeze, no turning off on its own, it works perfectly on JH2
your description of the phone "turning off" could be either a battery problem, or the phone ran out of memory due all the background apps no closing off and releasing the memory back
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Wow....
I'm sorry but some of your posts are ridiculous.
"SGS is for windows haters and people with Linux undersanding"?
WTF
I'm sure the Bell rep makes you fill out a pre-requisite form before you take away a SGS to make sure you have Linux knowledge and hate windows... Thats how they are marketing the phone too...??
This phone is being marketed to the main stream.
And as far as JH2 being perfect. Guess what? When my SGS died I had already updated it to JH2. I got it back from repair on Friday, its JH2 still, and it has turned off on its own twice now. Fresh from being wiped and repaired. Just browsing these forums and seeing all the people with the same issues JH2 or otherwise is a clear indication that there are some serious issues with this phone. Oh, and my co-worker who picked one up after me has now had to send his in for repair as it died. Its his first smart phone, with all of 5 apps installed, so don't try to blame it on hacking or rooting.
You're apologetic fanboy like posts are getting tiring to be honest.
/rant
As for the original poster. Take it back and get your wife an iPhone 4 if thats what she wants. Apple fan boys drive me nuts too, I know, after my SGS died on me I have never heard the end of it..

Well i definitely see where you are coming from and understand your lack of interest on the SGS
but i'm coming from a total 180, and this is the perfect phone, everything came out as planned, from spec, to speed, to software, to features, to funtionality, to well you name it, everything works the way i expected it to work out of the box
way better than windows devices
i've been through a lot of smartphones before, and nothing comes close to the SGS, all previous "smartphones" were nothing but disasters and let downs
just the same way you think about the SGS i think about the HTC devices and the Blackberries, and the Treo600.
However the Treo650 was quite decent, albeit slow online but it was way better than its predecessor in every other aspect.
I still prefer PalmOS over Windows
put either Android or Palm OS on any device with good spec better than SGS and I'm all over it.
right now at this point in time the SGS is the creme of the crop, the supremacy, the top of the top
Looking forward to next years contenders

Too many apple fanboys.

Super Galaxy S said:
Too many apple fanboys.
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Sorry but your post is useless. I am not looking to start a flame war i am looking for advice and opinions from this community. I am not any kind of fan boy and i doubt any of the posters here is. Please if anyone has something to say please do so but lets keep it clean, no flame wars no fan boy and childish comments because you are not helping anyone.

Hey there, I bought the i9000 on recommendation from two friends that were both iPhone users that switched to nexus ones and never looked back. I have been a blackberry user for about 7 years and gone through (destroyed) most of them. This is my first smartphone and i was looking for something with minimal buttons (to break) and a good screen and good battery life. I didn't realize i was also going to end up with a mini super computer! Lagfix not only solved all lag issues, it now performs like a pack of rabid monkeys... on a touch sensitive leash. I have had no issues with the screen, rebooting, or any other hardware related problems. Any issues were related to my inexperience with android which is how i found this place. Just be careful... so while i can't give you any further information about the hardware, I have to warn you that there is a lot of information about rooting Vibrants that doesn't apply to the i9000 even though they are relatively identical, most importantly the recovery hotkey combination.
Anyway, I'm getting off topic. My i9000 is rooted with MCR Script lagfix, GPS fix, and SetCPU on Performance. Its lightning quick, bloody bright, and about 1000x more than I ever could have hoped for out of a smartphone.
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I am on my second Bell i9000m GXY S. Me and my girlfriend bought one just over a month ago.
Mine suddenly died. I had done many flashes and other such things on it, but that wasn`t the cause. The cause was a bad MoviNand chip. Samsungs chip that runs the phone. Before I even modified the phone I was having Force closes. Random reboots and other errors. Having to do battery pulls to get your brand new $600+ phone to work is ridiculous.
I came to Android from Blackberry. Being an apple hater I had no other real choice in my market.
My second Galaxy S (replacement under warranty) came in today. Before I touched anything root it had 2 force closes. It froze once so far under heavy use.
My girlfriends is completely stock and after a couple weeks has random reboots, and other errors similar to mine. I fear her phone will go the same as my first (and likely second) did.
I love the phone but the i9000m seems very buggy and unreliable. I can`t use it for an alarm because 1 out of 20 times it will freeze in the middle of the night. Hers too; which is stock.
It seems to be more of a problem with the Bell variants of the phone, as I see other bell users with the same problems more often then American customers.
I would really wait to make any permanent impressions on the phone until Samsung releasestheir Froyo FW update and possibly fixes the bigger problems with the i9000m.
So I wouldnt push you one way or the other, but be prepared to take that galaxy s off your woman`s hands and buy her a crapple. I may be taking my girlfriends and getting her a Desire HD or whatever HTC releases next in my market. HTC for my friends seems to be rock solid. Again thats just my view and I am probably inaccurate since I don`t own an HTC.
If samsung doesn`t fix the GPS bug (which I have run into on both our phones--- one stock and mine on several roms) and the crashing (stock) on the next couple of updates I will not be buying Samsung again, but will be sticking with Android. I have tried to use the GPS in 3 provinces and 4 states and its really accurate for me less then half the time.

Apple gas been supporting 3g till now in all firware updates. While mr sam sung forgot our froyo
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salmanslick said:
Apple gas been supporting 3g till now in all firware updates. While mr sam sung forgot our froyo
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Say what? Froyo isn't released yet. Nothing is forgotten before you actually have an officially released product on your phone. Stop being a retard and don't pollute threads with problems about inofficial firmwares. 3g is not entirely perfect on the released firmwares, but it's definetely there.
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I have the Sgs from the begin and any problem... no freeze, Reboots, I thing that people thing froyo will solvent all problems, but this kind of issues are caused for a defective hardware, no software... then maybe should contact samsung to replace the mobile.
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install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
and disable all the apps that you don't need to be running in the background all the time
it doesn't matter how "smart" are the smartphones now in days, it's still a freaking computer, if it's not optimized, it will just go crazy
i don't even have a task killer installed, as it's not necessary, as long as you maintain the list of apps you allow it to run in the background then the rest is smooth sail.
i9000m stock JH2, no lag fix, the only fix installed is the SMS time fix
solipsism said:
I am on my second Bell i9000m GXY S. Me and my girlfriend bought one just over a month ago.
Mine suddenly died. I had done many flashes and other such things on it, but that wasn`t the cause. The cause was a bad MoviNand chip. Samsungs chip that runs the phone. Before I even modified the phone I was having Force closes. Random reboots and other errors. Having to do battery pulls to get your brand new $600+ phone to work is ridiculous.
I came to Android from Blackberry. Being an apple hater I had no other real choice in my market.
My second Galaxy S (replacement under warranty) came in today. Before I touched anything root it had 2 force closes. It froze once so far under heavy use.
My girlfriends is completely stock and after a couple weeks has random reboots, and other errors similar to mine. I fear her phone will go the same as my first (and likely second) did.
I love the phone but the i9000m seems very buggy and unreliable. I can`t use it for an alarm because 1 out of 20 times it will freeze in the middle of the night. Hers too; which is stock.
It seems to be more of a problem with the Bell variants of the phone, as I see other bell users with the same problems more often then American customers.
I would really wait to make any permanent impressions on the phone until Samsung releasestheir Froyo FW update and possibly fixes the bigger problems with the i9000m.
So I wouldnt push you one way or the other, but be prepared to take that galaxy s off your woman`s hands and buy her a crapple. I may be taking my girlfriends and getting her a Desire HD or whatever HTC releases next in my market. HTC for my friends seems to be rock solid. Again thats just my view and I am probably inaccurate since I don`t own an HTC.
If samsung doesn`t fix the GPS bug (which I have run into on both our phones--- one stock and mine on several roms) and the crashing (stock) on the next couple of updates I will not be buying Samsung again, but will be sticking with Android. I have tried to use the GPS in 3 provinces and 4 states and its really accurate for me less then half the time.
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X10 is a stylish phone, its heavy and looks durable. So why not try to switch (assuming she doesn't mind using your "old phone" .. , and you two are on the same network / phones are unlocked)

Being a sgs owner I would recommend you to return it, it has too many issue straight out of the box. This phone requires alot attention, fixes, patient and time. It does have the potential to better then any mobile out there at this time but only if you posses the aforementioned qualities.
My advice get her desire HD or desire, she will appreciate it more then an iphone.
HTC Desire is really popular within the UK even amongst the women because it is easy to use and is works brilliantly out of the box.

Super Galaxy S said:
Too many apple fanboys.
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And too many SGS fanboysº

As everyone more or less said:
- install the lagfix!
A) if you're technically inclined, flash the rom to something stable and tested by many (yet unofficial and "beta"): JM8 + voodoo b4 (it's in the dev forum)
B) if you're not, get one click lag fix from the market, it doesn't get any simpler! follow the program instructions, and be done with it
Let her play with it for a while with lagfix.
About the hardware quality, i got a i9000 (not i9000m), there's many different SGS and even with the same design might come from different factories etc etc.
Mine is extremely strong even being plastic, i'm very happy about that so far.
Also it's thin and light and has a big screen.
The iPhone4 has a smaller screen, and its a lot heavier than the SGS.
Additionally, you need to add a cover (bumper, case, etc) around the phone to alleviate antenna issues (granted you don't _need_ but it's very highly recommended), so you lose all the neat design factor.
After exposing her these arguments and showing up the lagfixed phone, let her decide. If she wants the iPhone4 (or Desire HD or what not), then just go for it and ebay the SGS many will buy it.

Show some love for Samsung?

It's should have to be said that almost everyone bashes Samsung for one reason or the other but to be honest, I think Samsung has been listening to the consumer. Although, the lack of communication with consumers is its greatest downfall.
For example,
-Compress and GPS are been fixed actively (although not perfect, there's effort being put into the issue).
-Unlike Motorola and HTC, Samsung didn't include mechanism that makes tweaking harder (eg. efuse, and the whole G2 fiasco).
-Fixes for some of the smallest bugs, JI6 fixes alot of random quirks, such as Allshare now display the correct aspect ratio, to Calendar Alarm fix, Message Client crash, etc. Stuff that only a handful of people have express concerns over.
-Kies for updates (Kies Mini for Vibrant was extremely generous)
-Source Codes for Froyo released in a timely manner.
As stated above, the biggest downside to Samsung is the company's lack of communication with the buyers. If they can just be a bit more proactive I am sure people would trust it as much as they trust HTC or Motorola (Droid Series), etc.

When they make something that works properly (like their crappy software which won't update my phone with bugs in it)... then maybe I'll think about it.

Tarzanman said:
When they make something that works properly (like their crappy software which won't update my phone with bugs in it)... then maybe I'll think about it.
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When is the last time a piece of software doesn't have bugs in it.
Other softwares with bugs:
Windows .... Check.
Mac.... Check.
iOS......Check.
Android is no exception, or just look at G2 and it's state of chaos.
Oh, and the all mighty Bionix Rom develop here by XDA dev? Bugs, even more than stock, every revision gets a huge bugs fix, and more pops up. Software will never get completely perfect.

I don't understand what you're saying..... that we should say good things about Samsung because they suck as bad as Microsoft?
For the record, even Apple software ports run better on a PC than any of Samsung's apps...which is pretty sad because iTunes sucks something fierce on Windows.

Tarzanman said:
I don't understand what you're saying..... that we should say good things about Samsung because they suck as bad as Microsoft?
For the record, even Apple software ports run better on a PC than any of Samsung's apps...which is pretty sad because iTunes sucks something fierce on Windows.
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You sure its not you? Because my Samsung apps run perfectly fine. Annnnnd if it wasn't for Samsung you wouldn't have that beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen now would you?
Just my 2 cents.
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Alex530 said:
You sure its not you? Because my Samsung apps run perfectly fine. Annnnnd if it wasn't for Samsung you wouldn't have that beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen now would you?
Just my 2 cents.
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I think it's just her.
I'm loving Samsung for providing Kies Mini for us and all the work they're doing trying to updates out the door. They've got what....9 or 12 phones running Android and just announced more within the past week.

I'm loving the screen in general. I was considering the G2 but just the 1.3 gigs and its LCD screen are too much of a downgrade for me. Plus I can't live without root!
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Yes. Its just me.
There aren't a dozen threads all over the Galaxy S boards (here and elsewhere) about Kies/Kies Mini sucking or not recognizing phones

Tarzanman said:
Yes. Its just me.
There aren't a dozen threads all over the Galaxy S boards (here and elsewhere) about Kies/Kies Mini sucking or not recognizing phones
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I personally did not have problem with kies and I was even using a 64 bit OS. Now, people have problem folowing directions. I see so many times Kies diesnt recognize the phone because 1) phone not in kies mode 2) not usibg default launcher 3) didnt bother to install driver. All of which were addressed in the instructions.
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Tarzanman said:
When they make something that works properly (like their crappy software which won't update my phone with bugs in it)... then maybe I'll think about it.
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There is no such thing in the world as a bug free software. All of the world's most praised software has patches and updates that fix issues that have been reported.
Tarzanman said:
Yes. Its just me.
There aren't a dozen threads all over the Galaxy S boards (here and elsewhere) about Kies/Kies Mini sucking or not recognizing phones
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1% of its userbase experiencing such problems equates to hardware/software incompatibilities and/or the biggest reason for software problems, ID10T errors.

I say if people don't like it get rid of it. Done
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This is my 2nd Samsung phone and the 2nd time I have had these problems. A motorola driver has never crapped out on me, and Motorola phone tools never took over my USB bus, disabling all other devices on it.
Kies did and I had to uninstall it if I wanted any network connectivity on my desktop. Conversely, HTC and Motorola drivers and software work like they are supposed the first time I run them.
There's definitely a reason that Samsung is in 3rd place behind them. Given the issues that the Galaxy S, their flagship device has.... I don't see them overtaking either of those two companies anytime soon.

Tarzanman said:
There's definitely a reason that Samsung is in 3rd place behind them. Given the issues that the Galaxy S, their flagship device has.... I don't see them overtaking either of those two companies anytime soon.
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Hate to break it to you, but Samsung is already the #2 mobile phone manufacturer in the world, after Nokia.

iTunes and the iPhone updating system has had it's fair share of USB related and just bug related problems when updating software or restoring. Nice error messages they give you. Googling them brings you a plethora of people complaining right on the official Apple forums (a rarity because the forum is nazi-moderated).
I have no serious issues with my Vibrant. I know what I like and what I don't. I don't like stock Android.. I know that for certain. Same with a large QWERTY device. Not my thing anymore. I know that people like to ***** and moan on forums, a LOT. The G2 forum has already been graced with a "where is mai andriod 3.0s???" thread and a TON of complains/bugs. From poor signal, to random reboots, from loose hinges, to complaints about where they have the USB port.

Samsung is O K
I have worked with sooo many systems over the last 15 years........ All have their problems. Samsung Galaxy phones are one of the better ones I have dealt with. I tweaked my very first cell phone in the 1980's (set it up with a fake ring tone).
The important thing is notice how many very very good custom ROM and tweaks have come out for this phone That speaks to how much people like the phone. Like I have said before... the phone makers can and must do better.......alot of the lame bugs are because of laziness or just being in a rush. My Vibrant is a great phone. I just want a perfect phone just like all the techies in this forum.

Switch to iPhone 4?

Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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Hybbie said:
Good day all,
I've had my Galaxy S II for about 2 months now and I love how it works.
But still, it seems that my hands are a bit too small to type good with just 1 hand..
Therefore I was thinking of getting it replaced with an iPhone 4.
Now I was wondering if you guys think I would regret it?
The thing I'm most worried about is the speed of the web browsing. Is it really that slow on the iPhone that I will have to wait much longer than on Galaxy S II?
Also, does anyone know if I can get text reflow on iPhone when I jailbreak it?
Thank you very much already for any answers.
Kind regards,
Hybbie
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If you really wont to switch to iOS i'd wait till the iPh*** 5/4s comes out, rather than buying the old model...
EDIT: in terms of web-browsing, it isn't that much slower! (if you can live w/o flash...) iOS runs DAMN fast, even on bad hardware! (i compared my lovely SGS 2 to a friends iP4...)

Try Swype and you will forget about iPhones all together....

Yeah, I think you should switch.

To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?

jr866gooner said:
To be honest only you can answer this. I personally would regret it. But that's because I've owned 3 android phones. I had the zte blade first,then the awful wildfire,and now this! Certainly my best phone. When i look at an iphone i think yeah it does some good stuff but is so bland.
No widgets and your rammed with apple stuff and forced to do things the apple way if your not willing to jail break the device.
Android devices are customizable out of the box and allow you to play about with how it looks straight away.
Like i said its solely down to you we are all going to favour each device in some way and the majority likely to follow the good ol S2! Anyway regarding the size surely its of a similar height/width?!?
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Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.

iOS is great if you're fine with having only icons on your screen... iPhone 4 still wins display clarity IMO... but GS2 has richer colours.
browsing isn't that bad on iPhone but it is noticeably faster on GS2... antenna is better.
I agree... wait for iPhone 5\4Gs whatever they call it.

Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.

As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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FPRobber said:
Why would you ever switch from the Blade to the Wildfire? That's a straight downgrade.
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Drowned my blade in coca cola...
It was a sad day! Insurance couldn't give me a new blade and i unfortunately chose a wildfire all the while wishing i had tried my luck for a desire!

Thank you all for your answers.
I think I'm at least going to wait until the new iphone comes out then.
After that, I'll have to see like everyone else hours it stands against GSII.
Thanks again!
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sausagedog said:
As a person that sells phone here's my thoughts... iPhone stunning design and well easy to use. But this is where it ends as HTC etc have android now its easy to use but look at the way it does things... syncing android is instant with Gmail, plug it into pc it turns into a external hard drive/memory card drag and drop any file you want to it from any pc of Mac.
Bluetooth isn't just for audio.
You can customize it all day and all night uses a micro USB cable everywhere has one. Memory cards not built in memory. Give you a idea in the shop where I work we sell around 55 contracts a week and since the first week of Jan we have only sold 4 iphones. That is a very low number as of android handsets we have done say 75% of all contract sold
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I agree with everything above. Again, it boils down to what is important for you. I also thought about iPhone 4, but SGS II prevailed big time, due to things I do with it. You can copy music, videos, pictures any time, hassle free. Really. I never really felt comfortable working with iTunes, never knew what stuff would be deleted. Big argument for me also was the ability to copy and play divx files without needing to convert. I watch loads of movies; just copy to phone and you're good to go. It's a cheesy line really, but think what you plan to do with it.
I went with SGS II and do not regret.

Try swype
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I think since your asking complete strangers your already regretting. I like freedom but android isn't for the computer illiterate.
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The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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Ayhamov said:
The iOS browser never crashes! Also the compatiblity issues such as updates, Arabic language support, these are the main good things abt iPhone. GALAXY S II will the best snatphone ever having a/m points.
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What?
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I'd say use what you like and feel comfortable with, since each phone has it's pros and cons.

simonthor said:
Apple products are all overpriced pieces of Sh*t. Don't bother with it.
You will lose a lot of normal functions (Bluetooth as an example. Has to go trough Itunes or something like that -.-'')
Just get a keyboard that suits you better. Swype should be included.
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.... what?

There's a swype version on cydia btw and it looks to be working well judging by the youtube video
If you dont mind the boring walls of icons then youll be fine with the iPhone 4 which has better battery life and gps and the apps to boot.
You'll be missing things like the filesystem and the tweaking on the SGS2 though

Don't forget the loss of flash and better media playback.

Would You Consider an IPhone....

To start with,I'm not even sure if it is right to have this kind of post....
but for my curiosity,I would love to know your opinion on this one.
I bet most of us have been with android system for quite a while and have used and Iphone or least try em'....
And after all the happiness and sadness you gone through an android,
Would You Consider Switching Back/Change To an IPhone?
And I for one,will never look back...

No No No No

never...
I HATE the look of ios. So boring, rows and rows of icons. Blech

No No No No No
Damn you Scooby you ruined my post, it was supposed to be an increment for Iris' post hehe

I have both. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. I only preffer Android now since apps i used on IOS, have ported to Android.
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Funny as I was checking on replies for this thread,I am also right in the middle of an article from yahoo news saying that Blackberry is dying a slow painful death(kind of,they just didn't shout it out loud to Bb's)

I've never used an iPhone long enough to actually make a comparison, i do love the smoothness of iOS but the idea of getting stuck with iTunes turns me off. I've read that ICS will have hardware acceleration, so the smoothness may be solved as soon as ICS is ported to x10 through CM9, MIUI etc.
the other thing that used to attract me was the enourmous game library, but lately nearly every game i hear about on iOS gets an Android port so, i'm ok with that.

an idiotphone? No, never, you just sent a shiver down my back thinking about it

I'd never use an iPhone, NEVER.
you have to go through a whole lot of trouble to stay up to date with an iphone, jailbrake, make sure you don't update to an unjailbreakable version, buy the new phone when it comes out 6 months later...
Bleh, my 3 years old X10 is still working perfectly fine with all the latest apps, I can't say the same about an iphone 3G.

adilator said:
I'd never use an iPhone, NEVER.
you have to go through a whole lot of trouble to stay up to date with an iphone, jailbrake, make sure you don't update to an unjailbreakable version, buy the new phone when it comes out 6 months later...
Bleh, my 3 years old X10 is still working perfectly fine with all the latest apps, I can't say the same about an iphone 3G.
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Lol although I agree about not wanting an iPhone, this is pretty fallacious as well.
X10 does not at all work "fine with all the latest apps".
stuff that isn't compatible simply doesn't show in the market, believe me there would be about an equal amount of apps you couldn't run on the x10 and iPhone 3g..

I dont hate the apple products but lets say i just prefer the android os.
because IOS is very boring not much customisable
i mean when i flick through my homescreen on x10 i dont get bored ! On iphone there is no widget so really boring homescreens.
let alone the fact no app drawer you can barely see the wallpaper you have set lol...
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scoobysnacks said:
Lol although I agree about not wanting an iPhone, this is pretty fallacious as well.
X10 does not at all work "fine with all the latest apps".
stuff that isn't compatible simply doesn't show in the market, believe me there would be about an equal amount of apps you couldn't run on the x10 and iPhone 3g..
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Maybe not on the Market app on the phone but on the Market website, even from the phone, they do show. And up on the left hand side it says it's not compatible with your [insert phone model here].
Edit: On topic, only if it were free (to play around with, not for daily use) or if someone paid me. I only put iTunes on a PC once (a spare pc at that) and only cause someone paid me to put their cds onto their iPod.

No one can deny the smoothness of iOS(i haven't used android 4 still).
At first I loved iOS before i even knew about android. But after using an Android phone I don't think I would go back(unless they do something extraordinary changes in OS ).
Android on apple hardware is my dream lol
no offence to anyone

Nothing wrong with an iphone , excellent phones... this is my first smart phone oddly enough, never was into phones...until I got my hands on this one...wow what an experience. Never judge a book by its cover.
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no no never buying an iphone doesn't even worth.

mirajp1 said:
No one can deny the smoothness of iOS(i haven't used android 4 still).
At first I loved iOS before i even knew about android. But after using an Android phone I don't think I would go back(unless they do something extraordinary changes in OS ).
Android on apple hardware is my dream lol
no offence to anyone
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Yes their is android for iPhone
If u are jailbroken and its easy
But stuff won't work
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shahkam said:
I dont hate the apple products but lets say i just prefer the android os.
because IOS is very boring not much customisable
i mean when i flick through my homescreen on x10 i dont get bored ! On iphone there is no widget so really boring homescreens.
let alone the fact no app drawer you can barely see the wallpaper you have set lol...
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To think about this again,back then,I never dislike neither its products,nor the user themselves(now I can say I hate both)...I used to even think that they are a great innovator when they first released an IPhone(even though overpriced).
First,it all started whenever I talk to Apple user,it borings me because everytime we talk about technology,there is none besides what Apple brings to the table(sigh).It would even bothers me when we even discuss about media download,when I say a decent 320kbps mp3 music file is enough for me,they will deny it by saying nothing is acceptable if its not lossless.When I say that a normal BRrip avi file is already more than watchable enough,they will say nothing is like mkv.
And it really sickens me when I say 4 inch screen is nice when I watch youtube on it,they will say,TOO BIG,
when I say a new phone just came out with dual core processor,they will say it is UNNECESSARY,
when I say it is good that now we have a lot of choices for smartphone,they will say FRAGMENTATION.....
And the list goes on.
And to the point I see almost all Apple Users are all F**k Up.I start to notice whoever own one of the IDevices,there is a need for them to flash it public and brag about how cool it is when possible....
And as for Apple Inc.,when they sue Samsung for rounded edges,I think they just wanna protect their rights,but lately it doesn't seem so,it is more like they are all against all the android big boys(Samsung,Htc,Motorola).And they have already stop innovating something that is cool enough to the eyes of the most people and try clinging to the only products that is sell-able for as long as they can.And to do that,they need to take everyone else out by keep suing them.
Latest court case they won against HTC is based on auto-parsing,which whenever you get a phone number via short message,the phone will recognize it,you can dial it from the dial pad straight away....and such thing.I think my 8 years Sony Ericsson P990i can already do that(if not older),such claim is bad for all of us consumer,at least from my point of view.
And recently,Apple file up a case against Samsung again for infringement on about 10 FREAKING PHONE CASING...can you believe that?
I think Apple R&D is already dying...no new products to keep up,and yet they need to make money as much as they can.
And for today,I think Apple should just go to hell...the way I see it I'm not going to buy anything from them and not in the near future....

I wouldn't switch either. I just love playing around with android too much.
That being said, I do use my girlfriends iPhone for games when we are bored. That and for photography because android photo apps just seem sub par sadly.
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I've got a 3Gs for as my work phone. I barely touch it. It's running IOS 5.0.1 and it's rendered it mostly unusable. battery life is poultry, phone is laggy & unresponsive as heck, and if i visit a website that requires login or user input to continue, I get stuck in a login screen loop. Add iTunes to this and it's really just a nightmare. We've started setting the partners up with 4S's, and while they are admittedly quite speedy/smooth, itunes still ruins the experience. As well as the boring interface.
I'm not a big fan of the hardware design either. There are much nicer looking phones about.

bloodsuckingcomputer said:
To think about this again,back then,I never dislike neither its products,nor the user themselves(now I can say I hate both)...I used to even think that they are a great innovator when they first released an IPhone(even though overpriced).
First,it all started whenever I talk to Apple user,it borings me because everytime we talk about technology,there is none besides what Apple brings to the table(sigh).It would even bothers me when we even discuss about media download,when I say a decent 320kbps mp3 music file is enough for me,they will deny it by saying nothing is acceptable if its not lossless.When I say that a normal BRrip avi file is already more than watchable enough,they will say nothing is like mkv.
And it really sickens me when I say 4 inch screen is nice when I watch youtube on it,they will say,TOO BIG,
when I say a new phone just came out with dual core processor,they will say it is UNNECESSARY,
when I say it is good that now we have a lot of choices for smartphone,they will say FRAGMENTATION.....
And the list goes on.
And to the point I see almost all Apple Users are all F**k Up.I start to notice whoever own one of the IDevices,there is a need for them to flash it public and brag about how cool it is when possible....
And as for Apple Inc.,when they sue Samsung for rounded edges,I think they just wanna protect their rights,but lately it doesn't seem so,it is more like they are all against all the android big boys(Samsung,Htc,Motorola).And they have already stop innovating something that is cool enough to the eyes of the most people and try clinging to the only products that is sell-able for as long as they can.And to do that,they need to take everyone else out by keep suing them.
Latest court case they won against HTC is based on auto-parsing,which whenever you get a phone number via short message,the phone will recognize it,you can dial it from the dial pad straight away....and such thing.I think my 8 years Sony Ericsson P990i can already do that(if not older),such claim is bad for all of us consumer,at least from my point of view.
And recently,Apple file up a case against Samsung again for infringement on about 10 FREAKING PHONE CASING...can you believe that?
I think Apple R&D is already dying...no new products to keep up,and yet they need to make money as much as they can.
And for today,I think Apple should just go to hell...the way I see it I'm not going to buy anything from them and not in the near future....
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Haha agreed...
What's funny is how they're suing everyone in sight, yet stealing ideas more than anyone else. (drop down notification blind anyone?)
Not to mention Samsung produces the entire iPhone pretty well, yet apple has the gull to sue them?
They're a slimy company..
Look at their mark up on components as a prime example, especially for macbooks

from iphone 4 s ( cant believe android does so well)

I luv the note screen size. But not much more.
Like thousands of others with unlocked phones still waiting for upgrade
Totally unexaptable when iphone can upgrade theres worldwide in a couple of days.
Kies software is a joke.
The keyboard spell check is antique
Can the average user work out debugging mode usb etc surely there is a better way.
Contact photos freqenty disapear when using outlook
Still havnt found a way to FULLY BACK UP MY PHONE and setting that works
Why cant i have more than 30 days email.
S.callender stupid color scheme cant see colors. on agenda view cant go back in time
Polaris office is a joke.
Contacts cant look up location or notes.
Frequent random reboots
At least 50percent of yhe applications i download dont work properly or are very poor copies of iphone apps.
Android offers more freedem. ..if iby that i have to download so much just to make it usuable.
If iphone had a larger screen i would go back in a minute.I love the hardware but the software?
It seems once sumsung has sold yhis we are old news

magichoward said:
I luv the note screen size. But not much more.
Like thousands of others with unlocked phones still waiting for upgrade
Totally unexaptable when iphone can upgrade theres worldwide in a couple of days.
Kies software is a joke.
The keyboard spell check is antique
Can the average user work out debugging mode usb etc surely there is a better way.
Contact photos freqenty disapear when using outlook
Still havnt found a way to FULLY BACK UP MY PHONE and setting that works
Why cant i have more than 30 days email.
S.callender stupid color scheme cant see colors. on agenda view cant go back in time
Polaris office is a joke.
Contacts cant look up location or notes.
Frequent random reboots
At least 50percent of yhe applications i download dont work properly or are very poor copies of iphone apps.
Android offers more freedem. ..if iby that i have to download so much just to make it usuable.
If iphone had a larger screen i would go back in a minute.I love the hardware but the software?
It seems once sumsung has sold yhis we are old news
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Sounds like this must be your first android bro??? Because just about everything you've mentioned can be fixed/modded in minutes.

Yeah, seems like you should just go back to the safety of your locked down little iPhone. We all know the stock stuff sucks. Flash cm7/cm9 and then tell me you don't like android
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Like thousands of others with unlocked phones still waiting for upgrade
Totally unexaptable when iphone can upgrade theres worldwide in a couple of days.
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Odin Mobile
Kies software is a joke.
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WTF is kies?, I never use that crap, you do NOT need any ****ty software to get your phone fully functional.
The keyboard spell check is antique
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Swype is antique? use swiftkey then.
Can the average user work out debugging mode usb etc surely there is a better way.
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Bettery way for what?
Contact photos freqenty disapear when using outlook
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wtf, outlook?
Still havnt found a way to FULLY BACK UP MY PHONE and setting that works
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Thats not android fault or samsung. google for clockworkmod
Why cant i have more than 30 days email.
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wtf again
S.callender stupid color scheme cant see colors. on agenda view cant go back in time
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Use a custom app, there a ton in the market.
Polaris office is a joke.
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idem, use the one you want to use from the market
Contacts cant look up location or notes.
Frequent random reboots
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Never happend to me.
At least 50percent of yhe applications i download dont work properly or are very poor copies of iphone apps.
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Buy an iphone
Android offers more freedem. ..if iby that i have to download so much just to make it usuable.
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You dont need to download anything to make the phone fully usable. I insist you need an iphone
If iphone had a larger screen i would go back in a minute.I love the hardware but the software?
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Buy 2 iphones and fusion it with tape.

Lol at last one.
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Buy 2 iphones and fusion it with tape.[/QUOTE]
Typo. You mean buy 2 iphones and fusion it with itape?

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At least 50percent of yhe applications i download dont work properly or are very poor copies of iphone apps.
so the Tegra 2 games are less impressive, goto tegra zone and have your mind BLOWN!

magichoward said:
If iphone had a larger screen i would go back in a minute.I love the hardware but the software?
It seems once sumsung has sold yhis we are old news
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Everything you say I don't second 100%.
The Samsung kies is a Jock I agree but ITunes is the Jail.
However one thing is true, after so many years Android still behaves as a beta OS on my $770 device, its my first Android and I'm absolutely disappointed with it, yesterday I had to create a new contact, it took over six seconds to just open the application, was so embarrassing in front of the guy.
The multitasking is not well implemented either,the Chess application closed itself while I was surfing the net with the browser, this would never happen on my WM HD2 with a much lesser RAM.
My last hope is the promised ICS.
As for the iPhone, I have used it for years,and I don't like its complete dependency on ITunes, I could use the Winscp after it was jailbroken but was to much a hassle to use,it just doesn't have the freedom which comes with Android and also which came with WM for that matter.
Now for the last part of your post,and which looks like is one of the main reasons that many of us got the GNote ,hence migrating to Android ,is the GNote itself, specifically its big screen size,I myself am not ashamed to say that it was the sheer size and the hardware specs of the Note which brought me to the Android world , I always preferred the now discontinued WM rather than many Android ROMS which was available for my HD2.
Now for the big question:
Do you think that Apple will ever release a device with a screen measuring over 5", I doubt it, since I won't go back to smaller size anymore.
So, for the smartphone lovers, there is not- the so called -The Perfect hardware/software combination as of yet, but its evolving, and the effort of the great Devs in this forum runs in that direction.
Edit: In the first line (don't) was dropped, so had to correct it.

Trololol
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Alejandrissimo said:
Buy 2 iphones and fusion it with tape.
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marvelous idea, knock knock Apple !you can do this at least.

Whenever I encounter such whining, I wonder to myself wtf people have been smoking. I had a 2nd gen iPhone, and after switching to Android, I did not have much issues with my HTC Desire. There were some hiccups, but there was never anything as bad as what the threadstarter claimed. Even with my Galaxy Note, I have yet to encounter random reboots or any strange issues.

What it comes down to is this,i Phones are more user friendly therefore if your not willing or at the least eager to do tweaks to your phone or any sort of major/minor modding iOS is perfect for you. If your more of a techy or at least understand how technology works Android is for you. I equally love both my now sold iPhone 4 and my Note each had it's uses.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
What it comes down to is this,i Phones are more user friendly therefore if your not willing or at the least eager to do tweaks to your phone or any sort of major/minor modding iOS is perfect for you. If your more of a techy or at least understand how technology works Android is for you. I equally love both my now sold iPhone 4 and my Note each had it's uses.
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My god, that's my quote in your signature.

i am complete android fanboy, but i can understand the frustation of OP or any first time android user. That is why, even though i use android myself, i would not recommend android to regular iphone user, like my wife, or my kids (my 3-year old can immediately operate iphone to search for his game apps and run it successfully after being shown only 1 time, while given android phone, he can successfully crash it almost all the time lol)
We have to admit, there are still rooms for android to grow in terms of user friendliness. But ya, each os has its own strength and weakness. For tinkerer, there's android, and for those who love ease of use, there's ios / iphone.

hagba said:
Everything you say I second 100%.
The Samsung kies is a Jock I agree but ITunes is the Jail.
However one thing is true, after so many years Android still behaves as a beta OS on my $770 device, its my first Android and I'm absolutely disappointed with it, yesterday I had to create a new contact, it took over six seconds to just open the application, was so embarrassing in front of the guy.
The multitasking is not well implemented either,the Chess application closed itself while I was surfing the net with the browser, this would never happen on my WM HD2 with a much lesser RAM.
My last hope is the promised ICS.
As for the iPhone, I have used it for years,and I don't like its complete dependency on ITunes, I could use the Winscp after it was jailbroken but was to much a hassle to use,it just doesn't have the freedom which comes with Android and also which came with WM for that matter.
Now for the last part of your post,and which looks like is one of the main reasons that many of us got the GNote ,hence migrating to Android ,is the GNote itself, specifically its big screen size,I myself am not ashamed to say that it was the sheer size and the hardware specs of the Note which brought me to the Android world , I always preferred the now discontinued WM rather than many Android ROMS which was available for my HD2.
Now for the big question:
Do you think that Apple will ever release a device with a screen measuring over 5", I doubt it, since I won't go back to smaller size anymore.
So, for the smartphone lovers, there is not- the so called -The Perfect hardware/software combination as of yet, but its evolving, and the effort of the great Devs in this forum runs in that direction.
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Sell me your Note, I'd gladly buy it off you.
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What I don't understand is why go complain here and even more iPhone fans lurking to jump in the party. It's like just because some almighty iPhone users decided to use Android, now all Android users have to bow to their desire and satisfy their way of doing things.
I don't think Android developers purpose is to make it like iOS to satisfy Apple fans. Its Android and its open (to an extend). You don't like it, try something else, there are choices, or if you can, develop something for it, or simply go back to Microsoft and/or Apple. Otherwise, if you dislike Android so much, no one is forcing you to buy the device in the first place, get a refund.
I can't imagine one would go to an iOS forum and flame iOS and talk about how great Android is, but sadly I guess there are some that do that too. Sadly, there will many more threads like this in the future.
Also, here: forum.iphone-developers.com

i agree with threadstarter to a certain degree. . although a number of the problems you mentioned on your note i dont have. .
but. . . . .
if iphone had a bigger screen i prob would go back as well .. not sure if its a better operating system or just something im used to. . i have been using iphones for over 4 years so obviously I'm partial towards them. .
With that said. . I am going to give android a real shot. . i think it will take a little bit of work effort to really learn to use a new system. .after that I will give judgement . .(i dont think its fair to just a system based on one month against a system i used for 48 months)
There are some def advantages to using an android and some def advantages to using an iphone. .
The iphone operating system is great but has many problems as well . .there is no perfect operating system. . its what suits you best. .

you give a good ans "Alejandrissimo"
Last one is genius.

the biggest complain of apple fans regarding Android can be summed up that way :
"wtf, it's not iOs".
let's not even try to do what you want any other way than stock, if it's not included then it's not good enough, right ?

magichoward said:
I luv the note screen size. But not much more.
Like thousands of others with unlocked phones still waiting for upgrade
Totally unexaptable when iphone can upgrade theres worldwide in a couple of days.
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Everyone is waiting for ICS but the GB is good too.
Kies software is a joke.
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Totally agree, but i knew this before buying a Samsung.
The keyboard spell check is antique
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au contraire .... The keyboard on Android is oozing with awesomeness. Swype plus changeable keyboards, i used SwiftkeyX loved it and now i'm using thumb keyboard and trust me its miles ahead of iOS keyboards.
Can the average user work out debugging mode usb etc surely there is a better way.
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USB debugging is a Menu OPTION !! Have you ever put your iPhone in DFU mode ? I bet you could figure that out
Still havnt found a way to FULLY BACK UP MY PHONE and setting that works
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Kies does the Backup part. if you dislike kies try Clockworkmod or Titanium backup.
Frequent random reboots
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Not even one reboot or the oS crashing on me. WHile i had a million Springboard crashes on my iPhones.
At least 50percent of yhe applications i download dont work properly or are very poor copies of iphone apps.
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Wrong perspective. iOS is a mature platform therefore the app developers have had their time with building apps for it. Apps on iphone are slick alright. But Saying that 50% of apps are copies of the ones on iOS is just lame. All app developers have to maintain a standard design of an app irrespective of platforms. Does Facebook on iPhone look different compared to the one on the Droids NO! So the Facebook app on DROIDs is a Copy? uhhh...
Android offers more freedem. ..if iby that i have to download so much just to make it usuable.
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iPHONE exists because of the Jailbreaking community. You HAVE TO JAILBREAK an iphone to make it any good.
I bought the Galaxy Note a Month ago shifting from an iPhone 3G > 3GS > 4