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Ok so I have searched all over the forums and through google to find an answer to this and I can't any where so here goes. I am currently running the syndicate rom with the extreme kernal installed and when I go to use set cpu I have it set to conservative but any time I try to limit the cpu speed with the sliders it doesn't tae effect. The green numbers above the sliders will change stating my preferences but the white numbers that show the actual speed of the processor will continue to climb past my desired bottleneck. It looks like thecpu always stays between a range of 200 mhz and 1.2 ghz no matter what I set it at. If I change the style to something other than conservative it will change the behavior like performance will keep it at 1.2 or what I select and battery saver will keep it at the minimum. On demand and interactive seem to respond as well but are a little buggy and any little touch on the screen will make the processor jump straight to the maximum and stay there fr a bit which I would assume would kill my battery quite a bit faster. Does any one know if this is an issue with the phone, rom, kernal and if there is maybe a better settng than conservative or a different kernal I could use I was looking into the phoenix or fluff kernal. Any help or recomendations would begreatly appreciated. Thanks
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Its been a long time since Ive used it (2.2.1 scales pretty good) if I remeber right,interactive is what you want to select,but on some kernels conservtive is what you want to select.I never used the profiles,I think they dont work all the time.
That's odd I never had that problem with syndicate. And I know for sure that almost every overclocking kernel recommends conservative, for some reason the other profiles can cause problems. There's a couple things that I've learned.
Conservative, for one thing, is never going to be an on demand setting. Typically it will just up the cpu to the max you set it at whenever there is some sort of activity on the phone. Which begs the question, what do you have the max set at? if its 1ghz, remember that the kernel is overclocked, so a setting of 1ghz will allow you to go to 1.2ghz. (I'm almost positive you don't want to set it at 1.2, because then it will peak higher than that) I think the max you set it to should be the listed physical limit of the processor (ours is 1ghz obviously), and the overclocking handles it from there (at least that's been my experience).
Also, remember that when there is no activity (your phones in your pocket), the cpu will be at your minimum. So you save battery in that regard, because with out setting cpu limits, like if you're running stock, I think it might run at the max all the time. (I don't that for a fact tho) again, we pretty much have to run conservative, (I've read its something to do with these hummingbirds and setcpu and overclock widget aren't built fot them) so its an all or nothing deal, you can't get "just enough" processor setting.
Try creating different conditions to help yourself out. When I had syndiccate I had a different setting for the screen being off, for being plugged in to a wall, for being plugged in to a computer, and for being below a certain battery %. Those are really cool features and help out a lot.
And as far as other roms...I use baked snack right now with his ultimate kernel. Its only sllliggghttly less stable than syndicate (but most most most defintly stable enough for a daily driver), and I get much better battery life and performance. He recommends using overclock widget, which isn't as flexible as setcpu, but defintly gets the job done. You'll have to google baked snack and find his website since they kicked him off of here.
Hope that helps, let me know if I didn't quite answer your question correctly.
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From my experience,you need to set it to 1.2 to activate OC...That being said,there are some kernels that need the interactive setting to work right...and 2.2.1 scales to the lowest setting when screen off even without setcpu,thats why I dont use it anymore.I will again once we have an official OC kernel for 2.2.1.
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I actually used to have bakedsnacks rom and I liked it but it became a bit glitchy on me but I did think the battery life was a bit better. I only am using eclair as I want to wait for a final build of froyo to come out from sprint so the developers can utilize it better. I tried some of the leaked ones but I prefered the 2.1 better, all of the 2.2 ones were missing minor things that I used so I switched back. Also interactive setting just keeps the processor at max clock for a really long time before it scales back down and I didn't like that. Has anyone used the fluff ondemand kernal that is supposed to be for bettery battery life with syndicated 2.1? So I have deleted setcpu but it seemed to eat my battery faster so I put it back on. Maybe I will try some other kernal configurations since I was told that I can swap kernals without looseing data.
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Fluff was glitchy for me,I liked Xtreme kernel the best.
How many .35 kernels are available? I'm only aware of Umaro's and the stock CM kernel. I'm trying to achieve better battery life, so what kernel are you guys using?
So far, using Umaro's, I'm getting regular battery life, nothing special. Haven't tried the stock CM kernel.
Are they any other undervolted kernels available?
durps said:
How many .35 kernels are available? I'm only aware of Umaro's and the stock CM kernel. I'm trying to achieve better battery life, so what kernel are you guys using?
So far, using Umaro's, I'm getting regular battery life, nothing special. Haven't tried the stock CM kernel.
Are they any other undervolted kernels available?
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There aren't any others so far. Umaro's kernel is really good for battery life, however it's not up to date with the latest kanged nightly from yesterday.
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the info.
What cpu settings are you running?
durps said:
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the info.
What cpu settings are you running?
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Right now I'm using a kanged nightly with the "stock" cpu settings of 245MHz min and 1024MHz max, but with the interactive governor. With Umaro's kernel I had at 245 min, 1017 max and the Smartass governor. The smartass is pretty good on battery.
u made all the right moves all i would do is dim screen and keep runnimg apps low.
pimped out g2
btw pyromod 2.0 345 ghz min 1405ghz max on smartass. i fully charge bout 1 a day
pimped out g2
Pershoot released his kernel the other day pretty nice and smooth
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Alright I'm sleepy so this will be in rambling form but...
I've tried Umaro's and I'm not sure if it was the undervolting (which I haven't looked into tweaking) but my phone kept stuttering no matter which governor I used. I was using Htcclay's Super CM7 1.8 with cpu set to 245/1113
I also used the stock kernel that's been on CM7 with no problems and average to good battery life (10-15 hours of active use: texting, browsing, few calls, and playing the occasional game)
Most recently I've used Pershoots which I had heard worked great. I myself love it. Almost same battery life as stock kernel but everything felt just a little bit smoother performance wise.
Here's a link to Pershoot's thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847672
The stock cm kernel in my opinion is finally good enough that it doesn't need changed. I have always flashed pershoots and occassionally others, but it truly does not need supplemented IMHO.
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I'm using savaged zen, and I get around two days of battery on a charge, with normal use.
Min: 368 max: 768
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Using Pershoots latest kernel, have nothing but good things to say about his kernels. Always my go to kernel.
fedtemis said:
I'm using savaged zen, and I get around two days of battery on a charge, with normal use.
Min: 368 max: 768
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You're running that on Vision? I can't seem to find it for our device.
Stock CM7 kernel here. I run 245/806 Interactive with automatic brightness. I've found that when wifi is on, keeping the cell radio @ 2G only works wonders. Wifi is set to sleep on screen off, but not when plugged in. 1 day 7 hours on this charge so far with 23% left. I would consider my use light to moderate.
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durps said:
How many .35 kernels are available? I'm only aware of Umaro's and the stock CM kernel. I'm trying to achieve better battery life, so what kernel are you guys using?
So far, using Umaro's, I'm getting regular battery life, nothing special. Haven't tried the stock CM kernel.
Are they any other undervolted kernels available?
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I'm wondering where can I download the Umaro's kernel. I check out his github (https://github.com/umaro/htc-kernel-msm7x30) only to find out that the source is available.
On CM7 I dont have ondemand governor with the tiamat or savage. Only with stock CM7 kernel. What should I use instead?
Also does it take a while to notice improve me with these kernels?
Also those with awesome battery life on stock battery are you leaving wifi on? I get about half those times but I leave 3g on all the time.
I wish I could get through an 8 hour work day with 5hrs of screen on time on my battery.
Usually on my yoobao 3000mah I get 4.5hrs on screen time with no charging throughout the day lasts about 17hrs that way.
If I switch back to my stock battery I wouldnt be getting that would I?
CM7.1 nightly
yoobao 3000mah battery
tiamat 407 kernel. Everything under volted by 50mV but I do not think it is sticking.
churro7 said:
On CM7 I dont have ondemand governor with the tiamat or savage. Only with stock CM7 kernel. What should I use instead?
Also does it take a while to notice improve me with these kernels?
Also those with awesome battery life on stock battery are you leaving wifi on? I get about half those times but I leave 3g on all the time.
I wish I could get through an 8 hour work day with 5hrs of screen on time on my battery.
Usually on my yoobao 3000mah I get 4.5hrs on screen time with no charging throughout the day lasts about 17hrs that way.
If I switch back to my stock battery I wouldnt be getting that would I?
CM7.1 nightly
yoobao 3000mah battery
tiamat 407 kernel. Everything under volted by 50mV but I do not think it is sticking.
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i prefer the SavagedZen 2.2.1 kernel with savagedzen. but would suggest trying the smartass and interactiveX governors to see which one you and your phone prefer. some folks like the 3.06 version of Tiamat, you may want to ask folks in the tiamat thread about the diff between 4.07 and 3.06 (not positive on the version numbers).
i'd suggest running each for a couple days to see how it feels.
i use Tasker to activate my wifi when i arrive at work and at home...the rest of the time my wifi is off unless i turn it on.
the "5hrs of screen on time" may be an issue, the screen draws a lot of juice. perhaps if you verify your undervolting is sticking, used no widgets, do not use live wallpapers, set everything to sync once or twice a day you'd get further...but thats kinda no fun and i still don't think you'd get 5hrs.
i've had a light day on my phone...1.5hrs of screen on and i'm at 16hrs w/ 44% left. standard battery.
How can I verify the UV settings?
smartass is laggy
You guys should d/l System tuner. You can change your Governor with that app
Some guys swear by the SavagedZen kernel but it's reached the end of it's development life, the SavagedZen team is no longer supporting or updating the kernel and it hasn't been updated in almost 3 months. My personal experience with the kernel notwithstanding, I think that's reason enough to stick with Tiamat.
Turn brightness to 30 or 40%. Get a mugen 4500 mAh. Problem solved...your welcome.
Oh and there is ondemand in sz221. I am currently using tiamat 407 SBC conservative governor and my settings. No undervolt and working very nicely
I own a stock, gailio 2000mah, and siedio 3500. My 3500 never has a problem making a heavy day of use. I'm guessing that 4500 def wouldnt
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How can I verify the UV settings?
smartass is laggy
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you can use vipermod to set and verify your uv settings. there are other apps as well. but i find the script works well.
in CM7 you can set your governor and clock speed via:
menu -> settings -> Cyanogen Settings -> Performance -> CPU Settings
no 3rd party app is required. (unless you wish to use "profiles" like those available with SetCPU)
you may find interactiveX to be more responsive.
yes, SZ is not currently being developed and tiamat just released v407.
i may try the new tiamat kernel to see if it plays nice with my phone.
note: the new tiamat is based on 2.6.38.8 and SZ is based on 2.5.38.7.
thus far my EVO has shown a definite preference for SZ over Tiamat. /shrug
i always feel like i'm carrying around a pregnant EVO when i put on the 3500mh battery. LoL
My Evo also never ran tiamat well after 337 but 407 is running great
I avg five hours display on time. I have Deck's AOSP ROM and I turn off background data and sync twitter and email manually. I use Gemini App Manager to prevent apps from auto starting. I'm using a S-Z CFS kernel interactive x governor with SBC. I rely on 3g during my commute and wifi while at work and at home. I use the web, youtube and the xda app extensively. I don't think it is possible to have five hours screen on time using 3g only. Sprint's network is not that strong.
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I dont have enough posts, and im not going to post a bunch of useless replies to threads im not interested in to inflate my post count to 10 posts. However, since ive encountered a fairly bad bug with this kernel, I figured id mention it here and see if an "expert" user might be able to guide/teach me what im missing, OR post in the Samurai kernel thread so the devs know its a problem.
Running the samurai kernel included with ACS ICS 5.5 (Samurai 3.0.1), i setup Voltage Control to use the Noop scheduler and Conservative governor. I disabled everything beyond 1000Mhz (for max battery life), and it worked as expected (100-1000mhz depending on what im doing). After flashing 3.0.4, it would no longer go above 800mhz. I ensured the max frequency was set to 1000mhz, applied changes, saved as boot settings, etc, and upon reboot the phone INITIALLY goes up to 1000mhz, but then stops at 800mhz. I noticed in voltage control I couldnt undervolt anything above 800 (all other frequencies disabled). Flashing back to 3.0.1, everything worked as advertised with all frequencies working well. BTW, to test, I changed schedulers and even set the governor to Performance, which maxed the frequency at 800mhz still.
Just thought id let some people in here know- I LOVED how well the ram optimization worked in 3.0.4- it reliably kept my RAM at about 170mb, whereas my RAM would eventually end up in the 70s with other choices.
Love the ROMS, kernels, and all the hacks you guys do; just wanted to let everyone know I noticed this.
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I dont have enough posts, and im not going to post a bunch of useless replies to threads im not interested in to inflate my post count to 10 posts. However, since ive encountered a fairly bad bug with this kernel, I figured id mention it here and see if an "expert" user might be able to guide/teach me what im missing, OR post in the Samurai kernel thread so the devs know its a problem.
Running the samurai kernel included with ACS ICS 5.5 (Samurai 3.0.1), i setup Voltage Control to use the Noop scheduler and Conservative governor. I disabled everything beyond 1000Mhz (for max battery life), and it worked as expected (100-1000mhz depending on what im doing). After flashing 3.0.4, it would no longer go above 800mhz. I ensured the max frequency was set to 1000mhz, applied changes, saved as boot settings, etc, and upon reboot the phone INITIALLY goes up to 1000mhz, but then stops at 800mhz. I noticed in voltage control I couldnt undervolt anything above 800 (all other frequencies disabled). Flashing back to 3.0.1, everything worked as advertised with all frequencies working well. BTW, to test, I changed schedulers and even set the governor to Performance, which maxed the frequency at 800mhz still.
Just thought id let some people in here know- I LOVED how well the ram optimization worked in 3.0.4- it reliably kept my RAM at about 170mb, whereas my RAM would eventually end up in the 70s with other choices.
Love the ROMS, kernels, and all the hacks you guys do; just wanted to let everyone know I noticed this.
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Did you try reflashing fresh? I'm currently runnin CK23's Urban Precision 1.1 with Samurai 3.0.4 and I'm OC'd to 1400/200. I honestly don't kno why its not working for you, I'll be sure ta mention it in the thread tho.
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Did you reflash your ROM fresh and put on the kernel immediately like Earthbound recommended?
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Did you reflash your ROM fresh and put on the kernel immediately like Earthbound recommended?
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Yes, Ive done it a third time just to make sure; 100% reproducible with 3.0.4. The first 2 times I booted ACS ICS 5.5 FIRST, then booted back into CWM to flash the kernel. This last time, I flashed the ROM, then flashed the kernel immediately after. Same result. I guess its just my device? Ive never had issues with this before, so..
Did you clear data in Voltage Control? Perhaps it's your governor.
My girlfriend has an I337 S4 running rooted MDL rom. Her phone would get hot and battery life was awful compared to my M919 S4.
I installed Bettery Battery Stats and it shows that the phone is either running at full speed or in deep sleep. I changed the governor of the stock kernel and it didn't make much difference. We then installed Ktoonsez kernel (newest version as of a few days ago) and it made no difference. I even tried to underclock and overclock the cpu and it always stays at the maximum setting. I've tried a few task manager applications and they show what is running but nothing uses a high percentage of CPU. Its as if some hidden system process is pegging the CPU all the time.
Does anyone have advice on how to stop this?
It's probably something hidden in the Rom that's making the cpu clocked out all the time. The Rom probably has a built in wake lock app that keeps the cpu running constantly when the screen is locked. Umm, I guess your best guess it to do a factory reset and if that doesn't work go back to the stock software or try a different Rom.
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