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I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
Try another messaging app like handcent or chomp. You have choices.
No problems here, and I'm on my 2nd Android phone. Both have worked great with no problems such as yours.
Seems like more of a rant then a request for help. that being said, my family has 5 Evo's between us and we have had not one complaint with the SMS. possibly sprint service in the area? i know when i'm in smaller towns the sms seems to lag, almost like its stuck in queue somewhere before being sent to me.
good luck mate!
Use Handcent. Problem solved. The stock app is slow and sucks.
If you hate it, go back to the iPhone where you obviously came from?
Now to try to find a question to answer within all that complaining....... hmmm... oh yes, I'm having issues with the SMS coming in odd orders occasionally. I did not ever experience this with my Hero.
So what I can derive from that is that this particular release of Sense, which is NOT Android, has a bug. You need to differentiate between the OS and the VERY deep reaching Sense UI that HTC puts on top.
I'd tell you to wait for the ROM development to pick up, but something tells me you're not a tinkerer. The iPhone is a fantastic phone.. you just can't tinker as much as you can with Android. So with Android you'll have choices but you'll have bugs. It's just something I come to expect.
It's like running Linux. Sure it's trendy to hate Microsoft, but holy hell there are a lot of problems with Linux apps in design, UI, and in general stability (Note, I didn't say Linux has problems.. I said apps. Because it's the crap on top of the underlying system I have complaints with). I still love it, I just have to approach it with an attitude that it's not going to be as polished as OS X, and it's not going to be as stable either.
Welcome to Open Source and the stuff people put out with it.
After hearing everyone praise handcent I decided to give it a try myself and wow is it better. Choice is very nice
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Edited to remove ranting, I'll give handcent a shot. Hopefully it doesn't lose random messages =(.
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
pekosROB said:
I've gotten some messages out of order, but that's about it.
If I try Handcent and somehow don't like it, is it easy to revert back to the original built-in messaging app?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Nevermind I realize it's an independent app. I just replaced my Messaging icon with the Handcent one on the homescreen.
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Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
afazel said:
Just make sure you disable notifications in the stock app so you don't get double notifications. That's annoying.
Also, I haven't had any problems with MMS while using Handcent.
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Thanks, I totally noticed that too. But it looks like if I disable notifications in the notification bar then it doesn't let me make sure it plays a sound.
Does handcent control that on its own so it doesn't matter if the sound is disabled on the stock messaging app?
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Handcent has its own notification settings.
Jye75 said:
Handcent has its own notification settings.
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Thanks, I turned off the messaging app notification and it still notified me when I got a text.
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BTW, anyone using handcent have a problem sending MMS?
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Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
I prefer chomp, and have had no issues. well maybe one, or two texts out of order. Like if the sender typed a "two page" text and sent, then sent a short text the short one might come in before the second half of the "two page" text.
roybotnik said:
I purchased an evo for both me and my wife. A friend of mine did the same as well. It seemed like a good deal at the time and the phone seems to be good quality overall...
However, when messaging back and forth quickly, messages disappear from the thread and cannot be seen in any way. All that I receive is a notification. This has happened for all of us. Messages are also often received in the wrong order.
Would the situation be any better if I was using plain android instead of the buggy sense UI? It looks like the froyo rom is making good progress.. I'm going to try it, but if it's still as buggy as it is stock, Sprint will be getting 4 EVOs returned.
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that doesn't happen with my sms app but it does happen with my google mail from time to time.
prestonr83 said:
Yea I have that problem alot I usually use built in messaging for MMS and handcent for all other SMS. I never have a problem receiving MMS with handcent just sending.
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I ran some tests and I can send over 3g it's only when wifi is enabled. So I did some research and found out sprint only sends MMS over their connections. The default messaging app will bypass wifi and use 3g to send mms. Handcent had patched this for the Hero.
I'd like to put in a plug for ChompSMS. I hadn't used it before, but people were saying that it automatically resizes your pictures when sending MMS. Maybe this isn't a problem on the Evo, but it was on the Hero. I will occasionally get a text out of order if someone sends me a long one that is broken up into more than 2 messages. But, I really like it's interface better than Handcent, which I have also used. As far as I know, I have never had a text go missing when using Chomp.
Android is all about choice. It's really nice to have all these choices and these are FREE (as in beer).
Hey guys, I wanted to see if any fellow vibrant uses have been getting this.
This is the second time this has happened to me. Just out of no where I will launch my sms application (handcent) and the all of my texts are gone, like magic....
I have done alot of looking and found out that this is an old problem that is general for any android user. Wanted to see if anyone know the solution to what is causing this.
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This just happened to me recently. I also use handcent. I dont know if this is the case for you, but I am a packrat, so I had a lot of messages.
I think the limit of SMS messages that can be stored on the phone is 5,000. The only thing that didnt make any sense is that not ALL of my messages were gone, I had 8 left from a recent conversation. I cant explain why they werent deleted...
We can start narrowing things down though. If you dont think you reached the phones limit, then maybe it is a Handcent bug, or a bug with TouchWiz.
it use to happen to me before when i had i believe was the mytouch slide at that time but i cant recall. and yes it happened when i had over 3000+ for my GF and like around 200 for other people! Now i usually just get to 600 or less and delete it and start over. I use the stock sms app btw and have no problems at all.
It happened to me too, not the first or second time it have always happened from the start. I don't use handcent, everything is untouched with no root.
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Hmmm...a few people claim that this stopped after they uninstalled the antivirus app. However, I never used this app so it can't mean that. On top of that, many claim that this was due to 3rd party app. That wouldn't make any sence because if uninstalling different apps will fix it.
A few also mentioned that installing the sms back up also stopped the problem. It was also mentioned that handcent has an update coming that said they would fix it but that was almost a year ago. I couldn't find anything on the handcent website that fixed the issue. A lot of android users have the same issue as us on their forum. There are at least 10+ posts on this topic, non with a solution....
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Have you removed the settings to delete old messages when limits are reached?
or have u edited those settings in the messaging app?
That's the first thing I checked
it's unchecked, no limits and no deleting if old text messages. Here's the thing, even if that was enabled, it would only delete after reaching the limit and keep it at that. What happened was that all the text messages just disappeared...
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This used to happen to me on the G1 on occasion. I got around the issue by using the CyanogenMod Messaging application and setting the auto-delete limit to 200 messages per person, and using the free SMS Backup application to export all SMS messages to a label Gmail as they're received. I'm still using the same solution on the Vibrant, and I've had no problems since.
I didn't think that cyanogenmod is available for the samsung vibrant yet...or am i missing something?
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DynamicXL said:
I didn't think that cyanogenmod is available for the samsung vibrant yet...or am i missing something?
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The CyanogenMod 5 (Android 2.1) Messaging app can be installed over the Vibrant's Messaging app just fine. Download a CM5.0.8 ROM for the Nexus One and install the Messaging.APK found in \system\data. :]
I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
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I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
You forgot to disable notifications from the stock app settings which I believe are connected to but not accessible from the stock settings.
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Same issue I had. I went into the stock messaging app, under menu, settings, notifications, unchecked the box. That worked for me.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
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As per the original title I have gone into the Stock App and settings menu from there and disabled them and they still pop up.
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Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
kenvan19 said:
You actually did not mention that and frankly I'm inclined to believe that it is still the issue as there would be no other reason I can think of why they would be coming up.
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I wasnt trying to be picky there! Please dont get me wrong! I meant first post which I did state about trying what you suggested from my first post a quote: I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
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On second thoughts I wonder if this is coming from Elsewhere
If I enable notifications in the stock App I get The smiley face symbol with sender name and message, Handcent notification AND a 3rd one which seems to be the problem one. This simply sats You have New Message(s) You have an unread message. Also when the SMS is read this does not go away either
So where the hell is that one coming from LOL?
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You mean when you enable notifications you get a 3rd popup that is the smiley face in a chat bubble? What happens when you open the unknown notification? What app opens? And if its the stock messaging app, try clearing its defaults.
That is correct about the smiley face chat bubble. When the notification pops up it will open up Handcent. I have tried clearing the defaults as well with no joy.
i had this problem when i was using Handcent
so i removed it
now i'm using GO SMS, same as handcent but better, and it does not have the problem that handcent was having
i only get 1 sms/mms alert instead of 2 when handcent is installed
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I am having a right mare! I use Handcent, however I keep getting dual notifications. One from Handcent and one from the stock SMS App. I have turned off Notifications from within the stock App and still they come through.
I have even gone so far as removing the MMS/SMS App with root explorer and still they persist. It is frankly driving me mental. I want to keep ONLY the Handcent one.
Can anyone suggest anywhere to look? I am rooted with Pauls R10 Modaco ROM!
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OK I will give that one a bash then see if it solves it.
No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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No joy, GoSMS just crashes on me. I still get the message even after uninstalling Handcent as well with the stock App
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which ROM are you using?
maybe try another ROM?
Using Modaco r10. Might try another or a fresh install.
Happening to anyone else? I have about 8,000 sms/mms saved on my phone. The more I get, the more frequent they get deleted. I run titanium 2x/day, but I'd like to know WHY it's happening.
I'm using handcent, not the stock app. I do not have the auto-delete function enabled. I've searched around the T-Mo forums, and the only "answer" i've found was to enable auto-delete, and set the max text storage to 5,000. Well, that won't work for me.
Same problem
I dont know if this is the same thing but i had kinda the same problem a few days ago when all of my texts just deleted and i have been getting force closes recently. I dont know whats going on but I would love to get a fix for it.
Reflash your Rom?
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Is auto delete disabled in stock app? Even if you are using non stock sms app, the stock one is still looking at the data base i think.
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Not an answer, but wtf do you need that many sms for? lol Thats A LOT of texts.
option94 said:
Not an answer, but wtf do you need that many sms for? lol Thats A LOT of texts.
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10,423 texts and counting ;D i use SMS backup & restore every 2 1/2 hours just incase my texts get deleted im suprised my phone hasn't auto deleted them
btw im running royal ginger 1.4
and one more thing texts for teenagers are like crime scene evidence so thats another reason why i keep all of them
Does anyone know how to fix this? I have to switch to stock messenger to see the pic and then when I go back to chomp it will then show.
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Try handcent SMS. I've had problems with chomp in the past and always came back to handcent. The devs are really good about fixing any issues.
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Try Textra...it's made by the same people, and it's fast, fluid, and completely replaced my stock messaging app (I can freeze the stock app with no issues). I've had no issues with MMS in it, like I have with most other 3rd party SMS apps.
+1 for textra I use it as my daily SMS app. I was having problems with other 3rd party SMS apps I would take a picture but it would only send sideways it was stupid with textra it doesn't do that and its light so it makes it fast.
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+1 textra
OK, so I'm trying out textra and have made it my default SMS. I'm not receiving notifications or the pop up. I'm getting them in the stock messaging though. Am I doing something wrong? Help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's a common problem w chomp i fixed it like so...begin by whining your application cache for chomp and stock messenger. ..
Go to your mobile settings and copy the mms settings or whatever...then input those to the chomp app...i also had to enable in the stock messenger "auto retrieve mms"....then in chomp disable that feature that says something like b preserve resolution"... Once all is done reboot and have someone send you a pic. It should work. Give it a few hours i knew mine wouldn't work right away but now it's golden.
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This happened to me as well. I found that if I have any additional third party SMS apps besides Textra installed, then Textra will not notify me of a new message. Also check your stock messaging app and make sure notifications are turned off there as well.
plumpkinstew said:
OK, so I'm trying out textra and have made it my default SMS. I'm not receiving notifications or the pop up. I'm getting them in the stock messaging though. Am I doing something wrong? Help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I.tried all the suggestions and in the end nothing worked so I jumped ship to Sliding Messenger, which does fine with pics.
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Wittyusernametaken said:
I.tried all the suggestions and in the end nothing worked so I jumped ship to Sliding Messenger, which does fine with pics.
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Lucky you, I've never gotten Sliding Messaging to fully work with MMS, no matter what combination of settings I've tried. It's the reason I jumped ship to Textra (although to be honest I've been using Hangouts for my SMS lately...the only features I'm really missing are the pop-up replies and dark theme).
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Lucky you, I've never gotten Sliding Messaging to fully work with MMS, no matter what combination of settings I've tried. It's the reason I jumped ship to Textra (although to be honest I've been using Hangouts for my SMS lately...the only features I'm really missing are the pop-up replies and dark theme).
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It disgust me that there are messaging apps that don't support popup on Android these days especially hangouts