So I've asked this before back when I had the Moment, but why can't I stream to BT on a non-A2DP device? No before answering the obvious, I experience the same things on the Epic that I did on the Moment where if I have music streaming, playing from the SD, etc and a call comes in, the music will automatically pause and I can take the call. Once I end the call, I the music will play for about a second or more through my BlueAnt Z9i BT and then it will revert back to the stock speaker on the phone itself. So what is preventing someone from taking advantage of that lapse of time where the music is coming through the BT and make it happen all the time? I'm sure there are COUNTLESS people who could use and benefit from this instead of buying a dedicated BT, I might be able to stream wireless from my phone to my car stereo (BT calls capable, but I cannot stream directly to it as an input), to my PC (which has BT), etc. Just throwing it out there since I've always wondered why we couldn't capitalize on the second or two and make it a normal operation. I tried to break this post into a couple of paragraphs, but the site wouldn't let me. Anyways, thanks all.
I would also be interested in this. I was able to do this with windows mobile so there's no doubt that it can be done on a non a2dp headset.
The fact that it happens, even for a second, tells me that something is delayed that is telling it to stop. Telling it to start might be in a whole different ballpark, but point is, it should be possible. I've got 3 different BT's floating around my house...one in the house sitting around on my desk, one that I always take with me in the car (gotta be safe, ya know ) and another I keep in the garage incase I get a call while I'm working on something and/or out mowing the lawn. I'd love to even be able to be following around the GF (shoot me now) while she's shopping...imaging how much better it would be to be able to play music or hear my games without people around me knowing the wiser. I don't want to have to buy and then wear a stereo headset.
App in the Marketplace called "BTSwitch" works on my devices. try out the lite version first theres a little audio flaw with the stereo music being converted to mono (i'm guessing) but then i'm an audiophile.
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App in the Marketplace called "BTSwitch" works on my devices. try out the lite version first theres a little audio flaw with the stereo music being converted to mono (i'm guessing) but then i'm an audiophile.
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The only bt switch i see on the market is a widget to turn bluetooth on and off. Could you have been referring to a different app?
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App in the Marketplace called "BTSwitch" works on my devices. try out the lite version first theres a little audio flaw with the stereo music being converted to mono (i'm guessing) but then i'm an audiophile.
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I'm trying this as well at the very moment. I only see one app with that name and I don't see anything referencing a lite version. My BT doesn't even like to connect while this app is installed, causing the normal BT settings to not even allow it to pair up. I had to remove the app and reboot the phone to get the BT to connect through the normal Menu > Wireless & Networks > Bluetooth Settings before it would connect again.
I know this may not be the best timing to bump this w/ all the Froyo excitement, but I'm sure myself and others would like to see this happen. I've still got my fingers crossed that maybe someone on the sidelines could help.
It's called Super Mono BT.....They have a Froyo addition as well as a "free" edition...Free addition is just a 5 day trial, after that it's 2.99. It works fine but it's not in stereo so it sounds like AM radio, LMAO. Worth a shot though just to try.
I was able to install the app, but it doesn't work for me...yet. The problem is that is requires Cynanogen Mod and I don't have that since I've (as of yesterday) flashed my phone back to stock DI18 while waiting for Sprint to send me an OTA notice to update to Froyo. I was WAY too buddy via the download available here, so I guess I wait to use this BT app. Thanks for the reply though, I look forward to being able to use it.
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Bluetooth works on my Vodafone HTC Magic, but it's a fiddly pain in the arse. Process seems to go something like:
1. Turn on headset
2. Headset connects for phone audio only (music still plays on phone speakers)
3. Go into bluetooth settings, disconnect headset (if it isn't stuck, in which case exit and re-enter settings, or if that doesn't work boot the phone).
4. Re-connect headset (from within settings), which now connects for phone and media audio.
5. Play music, which then often skips for half a second or so about once a minute. If it skips constantly, jump to the next track which usually solves that.
The skipping doesn't always happen, but it does seem to happen regardless of whether I'm at home, work or in a tube station, and whether I've got the phone in my pocket or held up near the headset.
The quality's not bad apart from the skipping, and usually it doesn't skip enough to be truly annoying, but it's still a little disappointing from a £350 phone and a £90 headset.
So, I had the exact same problem, and I may still have it. I have now rooted my phone and applied the sapphire 6.0 update. I'm listening to music right now and it's working fine now with no skips. Having said that, however, I found that sometimes it would work flawlessly before as well.
Anyone have another A2DP device that acts similarly? Or is the problem with the magic.
When I connect eh MM200 to my macbook-pro it sometimes refuses to respond to the button pushing and such. Not sure what exactly that indicates.
/geir
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So, I had the exact same problem, and I may still have it. I have now rooted my phone and applied the sapphire 6.0 update. I'm listening to music right now and it's working fine now with no skips. Having said that, however, I found that sometimes it would work flawlessly before as well.
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I've also rooted and updated to 6.0, still got the problem. I think to be honest it actually pauses rather than skips (I caught it pausing for ~2sec once, it's harder to tell with the shorter "skips")... it still does it when there are few other processes running, so I'm not sure what is bothering it. TBH I've not really tried it playing music without the headset to see if it happens anyway!
I've beemn messing with my phone (Magic) all day try to get the bluetooth to connect to my bluetooth usb dongle or my old phone, both of which work fine together and with everything else,
My PC can find the HTC Magic when i put it in to visable mode, but other then that it wont show up and service's for me to use with the phone,
My old phone (Samsung F700v) cant find the HTC Magic at all, altho i did manage to find the F700 on my Magic and pair them that way but still my F700 wont find it anywhere (with visable mode on,)
Am i missing somthing or does the Magic/Sapphire have a very bad Bluetooth flaw,
on a side note i've only had the phone less then a week and its not rooted, is it worth it? and is there a noob guide to the basic's eg. which version does what and what all the cons are?
Thanks
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guess i just found my answer...
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Android does not support any bluetooth services other then "hands free".
This means that you can only use BT headsets.
Android (either G1 or Magic) phones cannot natively send files over BT, cannot use BT a modem, etc...
There is not third party tool so far to send files via BT to other devices.
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Ok, I'm looking for some way to route the audio of my Magic to a mono BT headset. I have been searching the threads and Google for days now and unless I'm blind (come to think of it I've been called this before) I can't find any app for this purpose. I had a program called BT Audio for my WM phone that worked like a charm. Anyone got any ideas or up for the challenge to making an app let me know?
Android 1.5 introduced A2DP support, so all you should need to do is pair the device and fire up the music app (might be a couple more settings in between, but AFAIK it's a simple pairing job). So I'm wondering if your headset doesn't support A2DP and that WinMo app was channeling audio through the regular headset profile.
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Android 1.5 introduced A2DP support, so all you should need to do is pair the device and fire up the music app (might be a couple more settings in between, but AFAIK it's a simple pairing job). So I'm wondering if your headset doesn't support A2DP and that WinMo app was channeling audio through the regular headset profile.
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Your right my headset doesn't support A2DP (It's cheep ). I know it is possible though, cause sometimes when I am using an app or game with audio and someone calls in I hear the audio through the BT headset for a sec before the phone connects.
WinMo had a few different apps for this so I'm surprised that I haven't been able to find anything for android yet. I didn't think it would be that hard to do.
It could be that its built in to the ROM that I have and I just haven't found the settings for it yet. I'm using the My Hero ROM. If anyone knows Let me know.
Hi!
Once you pair your device (on my Cyan ROM anyway...) you can go into the BT settings, long select the device you just paired with, choose options and if it supports X feature on the BT profile (in this case, audio) then there will be a check box that you can click to enable that function/feature.
Other than that, you might have some luck searching the Market for an app similar to BT Audio. I used to have a Shadow and I know exactly what app you are talking about, all in all though I was less than impressed with the meager selection of apps I had available compared to what I have now; and definitely even the out-of-box experience is light years ahead of any WM experience. What I ended up doing instead was just grabbed a new Stereo BT headset and problem was solved There was one on http://www.woot.com a little while ago that I'm loving (LG BT250 I think?).
Good luck!
-Chad
ive also been looking for this, cant find it either though
What I ended up doing instead was just grabbed a new Stereo BT headset and problem was solved
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I wish I could . I didn't mean the one I have was cheap in the way of money cause it cost me $80. Cheap in that it was the cheapest of the headsets that I could get with voice recognition built in as I work and drive around a lot of noise. I didn't want to pay the $130 for the good one.
I wonder if there is anyone with the right skills out there that can write a app like this. hint hint.
I do appreciate all the work that goes into making these cool app that I use every day so if nothing shows up, I guess I'll have to live without.
Thanks guys!
Android 1.5 introduced A2DP support, so all you should need to do is pair the device and fire up the music app (might be a couple more settings in between, but AFAIK it's a simple pairing job). So I'm wondering if your headset doesn't support A2DP and that WinMo app was channeling audio through the regular headset profile.
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Android 1.5 introduced A2DP support, so all you should need to do is pair the device and fire up the music app (might be a couple more settings in between, but AFAIK it's a simple pairing job). So I'm wondering if your headset doesn't support A2DP and that WinMo app was channeling audio through the regular headset profile.
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And the point of saying this again is what exactly?
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And the point of saying this again is what exactly?
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Dunno, I think they just want to advertise the site in their sig...
I have a stereo Bluetooth headset (Plantronics 855) that works great with the Droid; however, there are times when I want to sent A2DP to my Jawbone Prime, which is not A2DP compatible. The profile only shows phone audio when selecting the device in the Android BT manager. What needs to happen to transmit full audio to a non-A2DP headset is enabling SCO (Synchronous Connection-Oriented) connection. I have searched everywhere I cannot find a software gateway that enables this feature in the Droid. There is an app in the market called Sound Route Switcher that claims to enable this but then blames Android for is application not working with Bluetooth.
I will keep looking and post anything that I find but I am stumped to this point.
Thanks dbigdawg
There's a little Greek in there for me, but I appreciate the effort and I'm sure many others will too. Look forward to what you can find.
Hate to bring back an OLD thread, but has there been a solution found?
Last I looked was back in April.........................Nothing
But like I said before I have been known to be blind to anything past the end of my nose!
I really miss being able to listen to music all day and not have on headphones.
Thanks for the reply bud. Maybe with some luck I can see if I can find that old file I had that was supposed to work, but didn't on 1.5. Now that I use 2.1, it might be a different situation. If I can locate it I'll post it here.
Hi, there is a new app named "Super BT Mono" which could route audio to bluetooth mono earpiece. It might be what you are looking for.
Thanks
Thanks for the info. That Super BT Mono did the trick for me.
Anyone Fring users out there able to get caller/mic audio through the headset?
My setup is Blueant Q1 (8.21 firmware) with N1. Google listen and other audio apps play to the headset though the new A2DP support (sweet!). Calls though vodafone also works fine.
Could not find help googling around. Great forum. Thanks for any pointers!
No cigar for you or any other Fring user, including myself.
It is one of the outstanding feature reqs with Fring, along with
removing the uber annoying buzz messaging notification.
They seems to move reaaaaally slow, so it is going to be a while,
I am afraid.
Thanks for this. I can't see this as being a complicated thing to add. People with bluetooth car sets must have the same problem right?
I'd use the N1 supplied headset/mic, but it broke after the second week.
Fring if you are listening.. give me an option to get rid of the stupid test call on my friends list and like everyone else I want to be in control of my audio notifications. For the rest,,, great work.
A new Fring software update and still no bluetooth/headset or speakerphone support..... anyone care to venture a guess as to why this is such a difficult feature to add in?
Well,
an app that outputs audio, should not be concerned with just how that audio ends up getting delivered - over built-in jack or BT. All an app should do for that to work is to declare it wants to use BT when it is available.
Unfortunately, the Android doesn't work like that. Enabling app for BT seems to be a fairly involved affair, way too complicated.
As for speaker, same thinking should apply, except we lack a HW speaker button, so app needs to provide a toggle via its own UI.
And like I mentioned, Fring is a very weird app in how its been maintained, with updates barely trickling through, one every few months - which is way too slow.
Hi
First i have to say is SORRY about my english. I'm learning and i don't want to use a translator.
I have a Nexus One connected to my handsfree on my car. I have a Ford Focus. Well when i try to listen some music on it, stock music player star to play and stop, start and stop anbd i don't know why.
I have flashed many times OxygenN1 mod and for all other things the rom is perfect but i don't know why do this.
I have to say to, if i try to play music with another app it starts to play normaly while stock player is playing on the buttom so this is imposible to listen anything.
Thanks for all.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks
All I can contribute is that I am having the same problem.
I am using a Bluetooth headset to listen to podcasts - this is one of those headsets that supports the A2DP profile for playing music etc., as well as the normal headset profile for phone calls. I don't have the problem when taking calls, just when listening to music/podasts so I suspect a problem with the A2DP profile implementation.
You are probably using that same profile in your car.
I wasn't sure if it was the phone or the headset that had the issue - sounds like it is probably the phone if you are having the same issue.
For the record, i have the AT&T/Rogers Canada version of the N1, with 2.3.6.
A couple things to begin troubleshooting:
1. Try using your phone with a different vehicle. It would be helpful to try pairing your phone with a different car's Bluetooth stereo, and see if it works properly (maybe a friend with a recent car?). If that works, then the problem is with the car stereo.
2. If you have a friends with other smartphones, try having them pair with and play music through your car stereo. Hopefully a pattern would emerge: maybe your exact ROM doesn't work, maybe it's a hardware quirk in your phone itself.
3. What media players do you have installed? I occasionally have conflicts between players fighting over the Bluetooth connection; Pandora and the stock player used to fight, but now they play nice. Notably Pandora has a section in its settings that tells it whether or not to take over Bluetooth controls. This sounds like it might be the reason for your second problem (if I understand you correctly).
4. You might also want to try a different firmware, maybe one that's either closer to stock or further. Maybe try the stock firmware first, then maybe MIUI.
5. What year and model is your Focus? Sometimes (rarely) there's a firmware update for the car stereo.
If the stock player is starting and stopping by itself: first try uninstalling all other media players and see if it still happens. If it does, it might be that the car stereo is sending pause keypresses, which it shouldn't. There might be a defective button on the stereo, or maybe a quirk in the stereo firmware.
Hopefully some of this helps narrow down the problem. Let us know if you get any results, hopefully we can help find the problem!
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I am using a Bluetooth headset to listen to podcasts - this is one of those headsets that supports the A2DP profile for playing music etc., as well as the normal headset profile for phone calls. I don't have the problem when taking calls, just when listening to music/podasts so I suspect a problem with the A2DP profile implementation.
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Are you using the headset for both podcasts/music and taking calls? Or using the headset for part of it, and another Bluetooth device for the other?
I just ask because I once tried leaving my voice-only earpiece for handsfree talking while listening to music over the car stereo. I had them "working" configuration-wise (the earpiece took only calls, music went only to the stereo), but after a little bit the phone would sort of melt down and lock up. It was probably running turn-by-turn Nav at the same time that did it, still it was cool while it worked
There are certainly bugs in the A2DP and AVRCP profiles, but I understand the implementation is kind of complex and there's a lot of corner case problems. Personally, our stereo displays the artist & album names, but always says "Paused", and the title and time info and just random numbers.
About the best you can do is try to isolate your specific problem, then try to find where to file a bug report. CM is probably the most responsive but most resource-strapped for fixing corner case problems, Google is at the other extreme and never really replies to bug reports. The stack itself is written by the BlueZ group (which I can't link, you'll have to Google); I've never tried submitting a bug report there, as I suspect they wouldn't be interested in hearing from a 3rd-party Android ROM user.
This might sounds odd, but try turning wifi off and see if that solves the problem.
Sent from my Nexus One
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Hi
First i have to say is SORRY about my english. I'm learning and i don't want to use a translator.
I have a Nexus One connected to my handsfree on my car. I have a Ford Focus. Well when i try to listen some music on it, stock music player star to play and stop, start and stop anbd i don't know why.
I have flashed many times OxygenN1 mod and for all other things the rom is perfect but i don't know why do this.
I have to say to, if i try to play music with another app it starts to play normaly while stock player is playing on the buttom so this is imposible to listen anything.
Thanks for all.
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try downloading ES Explorer (this has a player built in) browse to the audio files and select play in ES media/audio, I could get music to play through this but not the stock player because it would keep stoppping after a second or two.
Hi Guys.
I've seen a number of posts on this subject so here's my story and my experience thus far.
I've been using an iPhone 7 since it came out. I've been very happy playing music in my car (Fiesta with SYNC2 system) all this time. My significant other has been using an S8 for some time, and her music always sounded 'crackly' (for lack of a better word) in the car. I thought this was just her Spotify or something.
2 Days ago I bought my own S8 and I had exactly the same issue.
Now from some research I've been able to deduce that this is down to the Bluetooth Codec the phone uses. I changed mine to aptX yesterday and the music quality was great. Didn't sound like a 200KB MP3 downloaded in the early 2000's anymore.
However...
Last night I had to reboot my phone for reasons, and the developer options reset completely, which I believe is normal behavior. But now I can't set my Bluetooth Codec anymore? I change it, the moment I close the menu, it reverts back to SBC. I tried this with Bluetooth off, Bluetooth on and not connected, Bluetooth on and connected, no joy. It keeps reverting. Same goes for all the other Bluetooth settings (i.e bitrate).
So gentleman I ask you humbly, wtf? Why does the settings not stick and is this normal behavior? Is there a way I can force it to use AAC or aptX once more? I really have come to enjoy this phone but playing music in my car is a very very big factor and since AUX and USB (can't seem to play Apple Music/Google Music via USB) isn't an option, I'm stuck with Bluetooth.
Thanks in advance,
Have you made sure dual audio is disabled???
If not, go to Bluetooth, turn it on, hit the tripple dots in the top right and tap on "Dual Audio"
Make sure it's off and now try changing to AptX or whatever codec works best for you.
Disable / re-enable Buetooth and see if it sticks. (Try rebooting too)
Also, Bluetooth codecs will automatically change if the device you're connecting to doesn't support your choice of codec.
Keep me posted
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Have you made sure dual audio is disabled???
If not, go to Bluetooth, turn it on, hit the tripple dots in the top right and tap on "Dual Audio"
Make sure it's off and now try changing to AptX or whatever codec works best for you.
Disable / re-enable Buetooth and see if it sticks. (Try rebooting too)
Also, Bluetooth codecs will automatically change if the device you're connecting to doesn't support your choice of codec.
Keep me posted
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Hi Corey,
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the above didn't work Dual audio was disabled, I enabled it and disabled it again. I tried changing the codec and bit rate but the result is the same, the moment I close the menu or turn on Bluetooth, it reverts back to SBC and Best Effort bitrate. I should mention that when I turn on the Bluetooth, it doesn't connect to anything, the only paired device at this point is my car.
Interestingly enough, if I don't close the menu but just hit the middle button, the settings will stay as is and the audio is great. What I haven't tried yet is closing the menu after a 'good' connection is made to the car. It may be that the setting sticks but the menu says otherwise. But I can definitely confirm that if I close the menu and then connect, the audio is garbage.
As for the compatibility of the car's Bluetooth, well it's a Ford SYNC2 system which from what I can see is actually quite basic. I am starting to this the problem isn't as much the codec, but rather the bitrate at which the phone is playing/sending music across the Bluetooth.
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Hi Corey,
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the above didn't work Dual audio was disabled, I enabled it and disabled it again. I tried changing the codec and bit rate but the result is the same, the moment I close the menu or turn on Bluetooth, it reverts back to SBC and Best Effort bitrate. I should mention that when I turn on the Bluetooth, it doesn't connect to anything, the only paired device at this point is my car.
Interestingly enough, if I don't close the menu but just hit the middle button, the settings will stay as is and the audio is great. What I haven't tried yet is closing the menu after a 'good' connection is made to the car. It may be that the setting sticks but the menu says otherwise. But I can definitely confirm that if I close the menu and then connect, the audio is garbage.
As for the compatibility of the car's Bluetooth, well it's a Ford SYNC2 system which from what I can see is actually quite basic. I am starting to this the problem isn't as much the codec, but rather the bitrate at which the phone is playing/sending music across the Bluetooth.
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I'm not gonna' lie, I'm not very impressed by the Bluetooth on the S8... or Bluetooth in general.
It's lousy most of the time, mine always distorts and especially around emergency vehicles... (Could be interference from their coms???)
If possible, just stick to good 'ol copper wire
I can't imagine wireless audio not ever being interfered with and will always stay wired.
Also, try a music app called Poweramp.
It has many settings involving latency etc. It has a trial for 2 weeks and is worth EVERY penny if you decide to buy IMHO.
Try the build version first, if that doesn't have settings that you need, try the alpha version.
It has lots of latency settings etc
I'm guessing higher latency = better results as it has more time to be pushed over BT before the sound is reproduced.
I'm probably wrong though.
Can't beat lots of settings tho aye.
CoreyOS said:
I'm not gonna' lie, I'm not very impressed by the Bluetooth on the S8... or Bluetooth in general.
It's lousy most of the time, mine always distorts and especially around emergency vehicles... (Could be interference from their coms???)
If possible, just stick to good 'ol copper wire
I can't imagine wireless audio not ever being interfered with and will always stay wired.
Also, try a music app called Poweramp.
It has many settings involving latency etc. It has a trial for 2 weeks and is worth EVERY penny if you decide to buy IMHO.
Try the build version first, if that doesn't have settings that you need, try the alpha version.
It has lots of latency settings etc
I'm guessing higher latency = better results as it has more time to be pushed over BT before the sound is reproduced.
I'm probably wrong though.
Can't beat lots of settings tho aye.
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Morning Corey,
Yeah so my situation at the moment is to have my old iPhone in the car at all times as a glorified bluetooth player. I've also gone out and bought an auxiliary cable for when the iPhone's battery dies on me (happens more often than one would think). And to have a charger for the iPhone, charger for the Samsung and aux cable for the Samsung all plugged in becomes really messy.
It must be something to do with the Bluetooth 5 feature. I don't know what version the iPhone is (cba to check) but it works like a dream.
Wish we had some form of backwards compatibility or a feature to force an older version with Samsung. Just sucks buying a phone which is really not cheap in ZA just to have the music sound like a 300kb MP3 played on Winamp with the treble bars turned up all the way.
I'll try out the app you suggested mate, thanks!
dxcza said:
Morning Corey,
Yeah so my situation at the moment is to have my old iPhone in the car at all times as a glorified bluetooth player. I've also gone out and bought an auxiliary cable for when the iPhone's battery dies on me (happens more often than one would think). And to have a charger for the iPhone, charger for the Samsung and aux cable for the Samsung all plugged in becomes really messy.
It must be something to do with the Bluetooth 5 feature. I don't know what version the iPhone is (cba to check) but it works like a dream.
Wish we had some form of backwards compatibility or a feature to force an older version with Samsung. Just sucks buying a phone which is really not cheap in ZA just to have the music sound like a 300kb MP3 played on Winamp with the treble bars turned up all the way.
I'll try out the app you suggested mate, thanks!
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No worries and if you are referring to a USB cigarette lighter charger/USB charger then try the multi-cables.
Try one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Poweradd-L...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=59QBSADVWM0NKGZGTQ4K
sorry to drag up an old thread, i have the same problem ( sync2 too) and it is same issues. I have noticed that even though its bad its tolerable bad. then i add my samsung watch and becomes awful.
did you ever figure the issue out? i feel its the sync2 causing some kind of problem
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sorry to drag up an old thread, i have the same problem ( sync2 too) and it is same issues. I have noticed that even though its bad its tolerable bad. then i add my samsung watch and becomes awful.
did you ever figure the issue out? i feel its the sync2 causing some kind of problem
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I dont know yet I have been using my s8 and bluetooth audio for watch speakers controllers everything and today for the first time my speaker was crackling under bluetooth
I will most def be trying to recreate this and figure it out cause it was very iratating...