Simple Questions - G2 and Desire Z General

So I was planning on rooting my phone, but I just wanted to make sure that I should be using this forum and not the Desire Z forums. Vision is US and Desire Z is just Euro right? Or was there some other difference?
Also I'm a little confused about the Nandroid backup step, as in when does that happen? Thats after the root, but before loading a rom right?
And if I use rage, will I still have S-On, and then have to turn S-off? Do i even know what that is?
Thanks.

dwang93 said:
So I was planning on rooting my phone, but I just wanted to make sure that I should be using this forum and not the Desire Z forums. Vision is US and Desire Z is just Euro right? Or was there some other difference?
Also I'm a little confused about the Nandroid backup step, as in when does that happen? Thats after the root, but before loading a rom right?
And if I use rage, will I still have S-On, and then have to turn S-off? Do i even know what that is?
Thanks.
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read the root threads, all your answers are in there, general rule of thumb around here:
read the entire thread at least once, read the first post in th [mod] thread at least twice, ask questions in the pertaining thread, know how to undo it before you do it, and if you are scared don't try it.
other rules like learn adb are also out there so i would get reading, you should probably do about 4 hours of reading before you start

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[REQUEST] Bell Desire Z ROM version 1.34.666.5

Edit: "Rom Development" is only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here. Moved thread to "General." Please refer to "[REF] STOP! Read before posting!" ~TheRomMistress
I was wondering if anyone could post the ROM for this version? The other one in this forum isn't the exact same number, so I was just wondering if someone has the .5 version for warranty purposes.
Thanks!
I'm looking at the same version. Unrooted. Anyone got that?
Link to all shipped ROMS
My phone does ship with this rom..and it's unrooted as well.. but I just join the forum today and have no clue how to extract/backup the rom out..if you guy can give me a bit guide though( for example what post to follow) then I can get it out and send it over to you... And does any of you guys know if my phone need to be downgraded if I want to root it? (the guide say firmware version higher than 1.34 need to be downgrade, does my desire Z need to go through that if I want to root it?)
Mulala said:
My phone does ship with this rom..and it's unrooted as well.. but I just join the forum today and have no clue how to extract/backup the rom out..if you guy can give me a bit guide though( for example what post to follow) then I can get it out and send it over to you... And does any of you guys know if my phone need to be downgraded if I want to root it? (the guide say firmware version higher than 1.34 need to be downgrade, does my desire Z need to go through that if I want to root it?)
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I also have the HTC Desire Z with the same software number 1.34.666.5 and want to root it. I'm not sure if I need to downgrade also before rooting as I do not know enough about putting fastboot on the phone to find out the CID. putting adb isn't so hard. is it possible to just ignore checking the CID and just going the creation of a goldcard to downgrade? If I dont have to downgrade, then it makes things a lot easier.
Alucard400 said:
I also have the HTC Desire Z with the same software number 1.34.666.5 and want to root it. I'm not sure if I need to downgrade also before rooting as I do not know enough about putting fastboot on the phone to find out the CID. putting adb isn't so hard. is it possible to just ignore checking the CID and just going the creation of a goldcard to downgrade? If I dont have to downgrade, then it makes things a lot easier.
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You dont need to downgrade. 1.34 is froyo, just follow the wiki
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I thought 1.34.000 and lower was the requirement. I definitely have froyo on the phone.
Alucard400 said:
I thought 1.34.000 and lower was the requirement. I definitely have froyo on the phone.
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Nope I've rooted with 1.34.666.x twice now
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Alucard400 said:
I thought 1.34.000 and lower was the requirement. I definitely have froyo on the phone.
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According to the Wiki, 1.72 and up require downgrade.
I followed the wiki and successfully rooted my phone to have S off, have Super CID and have simlock off plus have clockwork recovery installed from rom 1.34.666.5 just like ptesmoke
At the end of the guide, it says, "You can delete the files in /data/local/tmp they are not needed anymore. " How do I go about doing this? is it done in ADB? I don't know the commands for it and I don't see this directory on the SDcard. I assume this is in the internal memory of the phone?
Alucard400 said:
I followed the wiki and successfully rooted my phone to have S off, have Super CID and have simlock off plus have clockwork recovery installed from rom 1.34.666.5 just like ptesmoke
At the end of the guide, it says, "You can delete the files in /data/local/tmp they are not needed anymore. " How do I go about doing this? is it done in ADB? I don't know the commands for it and I don't see this directory on the SDcard. I assume this is in the internal memory of the phone?
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Yup you can delete it, I usually use root explorer to do all my stuff dealing with the phones internal mem. It is the phones storage, not your sdcard. If you don't wanna pay for root explorer I think I've heard es file manager handles root directories fine and is free
Glad you got er all rooted welcome to the club
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1.34.666.5
I am having a hard time finding the 1.34.666.5 rom. I was running cm9 on my Desire Z, but due to company policy, I had to unroot the phone. I got the 1.34.666.1 rom from shipped-roms, and the phone is back to froyo, but apparently need the 1.34.666.5 rom to be able to upgrade to gingerbread. I have searched everywhere for a download, but can't find anything but the .1 rom... Is there any way to upgrade from 1. to the official gingerbread update from HTC?

[Q T-MOBILE G2] doubts on unlock

Hi everyone,
i rooted and s-off my g2 with visionary r14, the easiest way since i don't wanna mess with command prompt and adb...
when i go to HBOOT i see that is s-off, but i checked with a sim different than t-mobile and i figured out it's operator locked.
I tried to see if the menu simlock on the HBOOT was useful, but when i enter i get load mccmnc image error, is that menu helpful in some way to unlock?
what is the easiest way to unlock?
tnx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
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sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?
Yes
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underground9 said:
sorry if the question can be silly, but i have another doubt: will the locked phone work with the simple mobile carrier (that is t-mobile MVNO) sim card?
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Yes SimpleMobile is made to work just fine with any T-mobile or AT&T phone even if you're not rooted or unlocked.
Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?
dhkr234 said:
Why don't you just gfree the damned thing and be done with it?
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For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
never ever use visionary, its extremely unstable and you have a chance at bricking your phone every time you use it, at first gfree may seem hard, but once you do it its pretty easy, but if you are unable to use gfree, dont even attempt at getting root access
shortlived said:
For real. If you cant do that then you shouldnt have root.
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i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies
Yeah dude sorry for those guys. Their content is sound, but their delivery was awful. It's your phone, do whatever you want to it, however you want. Just know the risks and realize there is an inherent danger to your device no matter what method you use. Read read read.
And the VAST majority of folks here are more than happy to help, regardless of the problem. Just make sure you also search, search, search because it is very difficult to have a truly unique problem and someone has probably asked your question and someone else has probably already answered it.
Have fun bro.
underground9 said:
i rooted because i want to personalize my phone and till now any damages occurred.... i see there's a lot of solidarity here towards newbies
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There is nothing wrong with being a 'newbie'. All of us were in that position at one point or another.
The issue that this community has with newbies is that many of you have a simple disregard for forum RULES and POLICIES. Here's a start:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
A simple SEARCH and reading would have revealed that Visionary is not for unlocking the device, only for obtaining root.
As has already been stated here for you, GFREE is the method you need to follow to unlock. Search for that and read the thread.
Your Welcome.
i been searching for long the thing is that all the guides makes it confusing, and u have to believe that to who doesn't know all this methods is lost, and i thank when somebody helps.
The cyanogenmod wiki has a very nice guide to rooting and unlocking with gfree, google "htc desire z rooting", it should be the second result
Hey OP,
When i first got my G2 (Desire Z here in Canada) I spent about 3-4 hours on just research and understanding of the rooting process, adb, S-ON/S-OFF and gfree. After I figured all that out, the actual process was only about 10 minutes. It was a great learning experience and I would be more than happy to give you a simpler and more broken down procedure if you would like. Let me know via PM.
Regards.
Hi op I sorta was a noob for a day or 2 everytime I switch devices I was on the android central forums think I new everything lol nooooot I bricked my first switched service.
phone the mytouch using the visionary method not the way to got I thought why not just get the phone unlocked and get true true s-off just in case and it has been the best thing I ever thought of.
I have not used these directions it does get confusing cuz some say it worked some say it don't them some start saying where does this or that go and then you have no clue where to start lol.
I hate to tell you to go to a different site but I used the new unlockr.com method which is the same gfree method with a mix of some of the true s-off guides.
because some file pushing commands where annoying so once you get a video guide on what to download and a writen guide over here just put the 2 together.
I moved the gfree file,busybox,data file to your data/local/tmp directory and moved the superuser apk on to the root of the sdcard and then followed the commands that actually use the file that you placed into your data/local/tmp directory.
you will need visionary need this just to get temp root to access the data privalge you need to get into your data/local/tmp but after you've read the directions a thousand time you'll know what I had directed you to do.
I know that was a lot to read but that is plain an simple ways to manually move the files to the spot you need them without commands to move them you can do it your self but read this and the true root directions and the unlockr.com guide for this phone 3 times before attempting.
I had unlocked and rooted my g2 in 10 mins instead of bringing another brick to my friends store lol
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Help getting Telus Desire HD back to stock

I've rooted my Desire HD using Goldcard & Visionary+, but now I'm selling it & need to get it back to stock.
What do I do?
I'm not technically inclined at all rather than I just followed instructions to get it rooted, so minimal technical talk please!
Sorry man i cant help you but i just want to ask why are you selling it? Are you getting somthing different? Or did you just have problems with it?
I'm getting an Inspire.
daandman said:
I've rooted my Desire HD using Goldcard & Visionary+, but now I'm selling it & need to get it back to stock.
What do I do?
I'm not technically inclined at all rather than I just followed instructions to get it rooted, so minimal technical talk please!
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maybe it helps if you open more threads... </sarkasm>
do a search in the dev forum thread titles for "stock", there is at least two. or get yourself a matching RUU and use that. or ask the future owner if he'd like to have it rooted, might save him some hassle.
<sarkasm> or you open some more threads and hope that that magically unroots your phone.
Closed. Duplicate of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986737
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[Q] ROOTING of Vision (Desire Z) 2.3.3 Not Possible

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
MichaelBrandi said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can figure out, there is no way of rooting the 2.3.3 version of the Desire Z?
All guides start with downgrade to exploidable firmware, and that is not possible without gaining at least temporary root access, and all previous methods are broken?
Anyone has any ideas that work?
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Of course it is! Don't you think there would be alot more angry people lol?! You have to obtain temp root on GB then downgrade to Froyo and get S-Off. It's a pain but I just did it on my friend's Evo Shift last month.
Thank you for answering I have spend several hours, and I can't get any of the temporary root solutions to function, they all seem to be ineffective against the current version?
Follow the XDA Vision wiki method. Shouldn't have any problems. I know someone that just did it last week and worked.
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I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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Can you go into more details? Like error code or anything? Are you sure you have adb set up properly? plus, drivers too?
If you can't get fre3vo to work (the only step which might not work, every other step is gauranteed to) use a different exploit, either zergRush or tacoroot will work.
-Nipqer
Please post up exactly what steps aren't working. Then we can try and help you
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Also Desire Z 2.3.3.
Hello guys,
I just wanted to ask, you say it is possible to root the 2.3.3. and you also said how. Actually I spent like 3 hours today by looking for the guides how to root this phone, and I am really scared to do it without previous asking.
all your responses were great, but I am really a newbie to these things, and those names you said (containing techniques how to root) didnt ring a bell in my head. Could you please just send me a link with a guide that will work?
downgrading and rooting
MichaelBrandi said:
I tried that, and just about any other method available, and non of them seem to be effective.
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I rooted and modded two G2 using this method and all went flawless, I read about ADB and how to use it, I read the guide several times to understand what was going to happen.
Read read read and then root and mod. The phones that I rooted were my first and second ever, I am NOT a dev nor am I an expert by any means. My point is that again if you read the entire post before trying anything then you will be successful. My phones were both on 2.3.3 and the process is not an easy one but works well. Hats off to those who took the time and effort to write the guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 this is the link to the guide.
Thank you for your answer. In any of the threads somebody mentioned the CM´s rooting guide on wiki, I checked it out and I got the idea.
which one would you prefer? the one posted above or the CM´s?
The CM wiki is based off that xda thread.
I would recommend the xda one, as it includes flashgc (for goldcard generation), which the cm wiki doesn't.
-Nipqer
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
These methods do work.
If for some weird reason fre3vo doesn't feel like working, you can use zergRush or tacoroot to gain temp-root (which I linked in a previous post in this thread)
-Nipqer
Adb can seem scary/difficult to setup to some, but it's not at all. Adb being a tool used in the rooting/unlocking process. See my signature for a link to a guide on setting up adb.
Please stay away from any so-called one-click rooting/unlocking solutions (especially Visionary), because a lot of them don't work, and some carry a high risk of bricking your phone. There is absolutely no risk of bricking your phone if you carefully follow the XDA Wiki guide. Read it first, and feel free to ask questions if you're not sure about something.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
LikeaG2root said:
I have a friend that just bought an HTC Vision(G2) with 2.3.4 and he has been unable to downgrade using xda or wiki. He thinks 2.3.4 is incompatible with these methods. He is familiar with adb and previously owned a Nexus One. Anyone know if his opinion is wrong?
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It can be done and quite easily (took a while but it was very smooth). I did it on my friend's EVO Shift recently with 2.3.4 which is very close to our devices (an uglier cousin one might say lol). Sometimes if you get stuck, it helps to take a break. Also, don't over complicate things. Commands while using adb have to be precise. I suggest using copy and paste. Also double check you commands before hitting enter. I am quite sure 2.3.4 still works with frevo. Maybe his drivers are mixed up. That's usually what it is. Make sure you can get all your functions to work before rooting like usb tethering and whatnot.

Download now Android 4.4 KitKat Sense5.5 stock Ruu.exe files

Now you can download the latest stock Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5 RUU.exe files on:
http://androidruu.com/?developer=M7
Greetz
There's already a specific thread for M7 RUU's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428276
herwegan said:
There's already a specific thread for M7 RUU's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428276
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But there are no Android 4.4 KitKat RUU.exe files on.
i've already told it crushalot, i'm sure he'll add them asap. further i've already provided the link you offer here in his thread, so no reason for another RUU thread
I have send them a message to about a week ago but there is no respons.
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Justin2003 said:
I have send them a message to about a week ago but there is no respons.
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Thanks for the link man. Some people get way to butt-hurt around here lol.
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Thanks for link noticed that there is a ruu.exe for O2 UK do I still need to down grade hboot to use the .exe
You do not have to downgrade the hboot.
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Justin2003 said:
I have send them a message to about a week ago but there is no respons.
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troby86 said:
Thanks for the link man. Some people get way to butt-hurt around here lol.
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lol man, it's not that i want to steal his "thanks" or something. i just think it's better to keep the forum clean and keep the equal stuff together in one thread, so it's better to find for everyone. and if there's already a specific and usualy well maintained thread for this topic. so i think it's best to just post the link there (@justin2003) and not open up a new thread (just to get attention/thanks or whatever the reason was).
people that are looking out for 4.19 RUUs will search in the RUU thread and find the link and thank you. and as soon as crushalot has some time to add it, he'll do it. that's it.
Until the RUU thread gets updated, this thread is fine.
I'm a little concerned with the community spirit shown here. @Justin2003 has done nothing wrong, by posting this, he even stated that he PM'd @crushalot but with no response.
..(just to get attention/thanks or whatever the reason was)..
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This is a little concerning, just because someone posts something doesn't mean they're hunting for thanks (which are worthless, just look at mine ) or attention (this is the internet, who cares ).
Save the hate for the iPhone crowd.
Andy said:
Until the RUU thread gets updated, this thread is fine.
I'm a little concerned with the community spirit shown here. @Justin2003 has done nothing wrong, by posting this, he even stated that he PM'd @crushalot but with no response.
This is a little concerning, just because someone posts something doesn't mean they're hunting for thanks (which are worthless, just look at mine ) or attention (this is the internet, who cares ).
Save the hate for the iPhone crowd.
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Nothing to be concerned about! i just thought to do the right thing by indicating to keep the forum clean based on my own experiences with thread openings.. not all mods think the way you do but nvm, let's stop here.
Cheers
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lol man, it's not that i want to steal his "thanks" or something. i just think it's better to keep the forum clean and keep the equal stuff together in one thread, so it's better to find for everyone. and if there's already a specific and usualy well maintained thread for this topic. so i think it's best to just post the link there (@justin2003) and not open up a new thread (just to get attention/thanks or whatever the reason was).
people that are looking out for 4.19 RUUs will search in the RUU thread and find the link and thank you. and as soon as crushalot has some time to add it, he'll do it. that's it.
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Look at Bugsy Lawsons RUU thread...all download links are removed. I think, the thread can also be removed. It´s better to have one more chance for a download, if something like this happens again.
Sorry everyone, I can't dedicate nearly as much time to the threads I used too due to a new demanding job with no access to post during the day and more family duties in the evening.
I will work on downloading the updated RUU files and get them posted on my site and on the collection thread I started.
I am not purposely trying to ignore anyone, but I get at least 20 support request emails and 5-6 PM's per day and as I stated I just don't have the time to answer them all.
Thanks to Justin2003 for creating the thread with the links.
I do not need attentions or thanks but i know that there are a lot of people who wants back to stock without first s-off the phone to downgrade the hboot.
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Thank you Justin, the official RUU helped me restoring the device in pseudo original state (still unlocked, with supercid and S-off ofcouse) but without having to mess with reconstructed, dumped and/or skeletonized ROMs.
Sorry for the noobish question but after reading through the myriad of "Help Me!" threads, I've gotten a bit confused on what can/can't be used with all the different security & lock states. If I'm S-OFF w/ unlocked bootloader, can I run the ruu.exe? Or am I better off waiting for a decrypted ruu.zip?
As far as I understand it, I believe I can pretty much run anything w/ S-OFF and it's up to me to make sure that what I run is compatible with my device, lest I risk bricking it. Is that an accurate assessment? Are there any avenues to restore that cannot or should not be used while S-OFF? Are there any that would require relocking the bootloader while S-OFF?
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sharksfan7 said:
Sorry for the noobish question but after reading through the myriad of "Help Me!" threads, I've gotten a bit confused on what can/can't be used with all the different security & lock states. If I'm S-OFF w/ unlocked bootloader, can I run the ruu.exe? Or am I better off waiting for a decrypted ruu.zip?
As far as I understand it, I believe I can pretty much run anything w/ S-OFF and it's up to me to make sure that what I run is compatible with my device, lest I risk bricking it. Is that an accurate assessment? Are there any avenues to restore that cannot or should not be used while S-OFF? Are there any that would require relocking the bootloader while S-OFF?
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You understand correctly.
You can do anything. With great power comes great responsibility.
Occasionally an RUU won't work because your HBOOT is incompatible or your HTC drivers aren't current or your CID or MID is incompatible. Generally you can fix these things and try again.
The two most common things that brick phones are a failed HBOOT flash or trying to S-ON with a non-stock HBOOT.
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Now you can download the latest stock Android 4.4 KitKat with Sense 5.5 RUU.exe files on:
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Thanks for this link.
(downloading right now)
Sorry for the noob question but I'm facing a bug with my HTC One running 4.3, so I want to try 4.4.2.
My phone is rooted/unlocked and I've installed CWM recovery. All of which I want to keep !!
OTA 4.4.2 update would not install due to CWM recovery.
Will this .exe file allow me tu upgrade to 4.4.2 without the need to remove CWM recovery and SuperUser ?
Thanks for your help here.
Sounds like what you want can be accomplished by either reverting to a stock recovery and accepting the OTA before putting CWM back, or just flashing a 4.4.2 ROM in your custom recovery- either way this discussion probably doesn't belong in this thread.
Note flashing Kit Kat manually requires a compatible recovery and S-OFF, I believe.
The OTA should preserve your settings and data.
You may or may not be able to keep your settings and data intact if you go the manual route.
If you do an RUU you *definitely* won't be able to keep data:
Real, complete, signed RUU's from HTC rewrite everything. The erase your pictures, they install a stock recovery, they touch every partition.
(There are some firmware-only and other hybrid packages posted various places in this forum that behave like RUU's but are more selective in which partitions are touched.)
Merely flashing a ROM only really touches /system (it also touches /boot and /cache technically). Depending on how stable the result is, you may also choose to erase /data in a separate action.
To clear up a point about terminology, root access is something that is usually baked into the ROM you are flashing. RUU always leaves you with a stock, unooted ROM. Flashing almost any custom ROM automatically gives you root as a side benefit. Root is not the same as S-OFF.
Anyway, you probably don't need an RUU unless you get into serious trouble. Until then, you might want to ask for more help over in Q&A...
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