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Un-Root my Hero

I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.

nautical34 said:
I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.
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You can flash the original rom back on there and be fine. They wont EVER press Home+power and boot into recovery.
If you really want to go back to default.. Run this RUU
http://outboundlink.us/anxo/dr_ta_1.../2uQunBaV/RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.html

Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
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neuro_genesis said:
Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
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Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu

Thanks for the link, that worked out great!

Jus10o said:
Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu
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Actually newest ruu is .6 I think

after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.

proman95 said:
after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.
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Yes you can re-root after running the .5 RUU
the original rom is contained in the RUU program linked above
You don't have to be rooted to make a nandroid backup, though you do need to flash a custom recovery image. Being rooted means that you basically have administrator access on your phone, can run things like wifi tether and can overwrite the /system/ folder. A recovery image is a little different than that...

ok thanks, i know root is just admin, but a lot of root guides have you flash a recovery image, by doing that you replace the original recovery image? the one that takes you back to factory reset? thats what im not sure about and im really nervous about changing that and messing it up and bricking my device, thought one forum said its almost imposable to brick.
ok so i have that RUU and another one i download. do i just run it or do i need to have a specific program on my pc?
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.

If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.

vidsid said:
If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.
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how do you determine what version the RUU is?

proman95 said:
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.
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I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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proman95 said:
how do you determine what version the RUU is?
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Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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jerry43812 said:
Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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Exactly. .6 isn't rootable yet but you are losing nothing by flashing back to .5 except for the patch they released to fix root exploit. What a waste of time for them.
cp0020 said:
Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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jerry43812 said:
I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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thats the thing though most of my search's come up with nothing or so much stuff that its all over the place and dose not help at all, believe me I am trying. I am vary interested in learning as much as i can so when I have to to root/ or flash i can do it easily.
(thats why I don't post that much, I am trying not to sounds like an idiot, thought i probably already have)
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Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
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But thats after you run the RUU.exe I meant how do you know what version of the RUU.exe coincides with what version of the software with out installing or running it. I am still a little confused on what I need to do with the RUU.exe and or what it dose. I have been searching the forums but there is not a Good sticky or wiki about it, its only the definition. I am assuming it re-installs a fresh copy of whatever that version of the OS is, but i don't know for sure.
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If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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sorry I am such a noob and thanks for the help but i just want to clarify that .6 stands for 1.6 or donut?
-Thanks for helping the noob!!!

2.27.651.5 is the original Hero update.
2.27.651.6 is the update that was released solely to disable the ability to root.
The RUU for each was released by Sprint/HTC and flashed your phone from 1.5 to 2.whatever.
If you root, then you can run any of these to revert back to the stock Sprint image. If you chose to go to 2.27.651.6 then the only way to re-root would be to flash back to 2.27.651.5 which would only be a pain in the bum.
Since 2.27.651.6 gives you nothing but the inability to root then it only makes sense to revert to .5.
If this makes no sense to you...feel free to give up on rooting altogether. If it does then good luck.
BTW I only figured out how to root on Monday so these forums are most excellent..if you take the time to search through them.

Thanks its starting to make sense, right now I'm software 2.1 update 1 or 2.6 so i just have to go back to 2.5 . once i have more time i will thanks for the explanation! yes this site is the best and yes i need to search more.

Was I too fast?

I just updated to the newest Froyo RUU ROM from HTC... Am I right that now I cant root my Device and I have to wait?
thanks

i think you have to wait for root now

Oh dear GOD! Another topic????????????

.... Oh my god.

i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...

danne_jo said:
i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...
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Yeah. And a sticky warning once Froyo can be rooted.

danne_jo said:
i have warned abute this since start.
unfortunately people dont see those warnings.
i say it agin, and someone should make a sticky topic abute this. DONT flash ruu after you have rooted your phone. Use safe released that have removed recovery, hboot +- radio and other unnessesary stuff that may be protected by HTC.
this isent the first or the last topic we will see with this problem.
A sticky warning is recomended...
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I second that ... where is forum mod... we have been warning about this since soo long.. i even made a thread about this.. why isn't this info sticky..

Third this
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Done a warning
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I fourth this!
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I "five" this! We should make a sticky on carelessness!
If everyone would read the basics, there would be aprox.50 posts instead of 1000 or so...
Turkey's guide should be renamed so people would know it covers all the basics regarding Android OS and the rest.
Fortunately I decided to take a look at it before posting more of the same questions. And yet I knew how to root, that's what it's titled anyway...
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"Main Version Older" Bootloader Error + How to Downgrade

A while ago I tried returning to stock by flashing the 2.2.1 PD15IMG, but I ended up getting a "Main Version Older" error in the bootloader. I later found out that the problem was that I still had the Gingerbread radio installed, which was incompatible with the older version of Froyo. As a result, my bootloader was stuck with S-ON but I still had root privileges. I searched for hours for a way to fix this, but I couldn't find any straight forward solution saying exactly what to do. It's really not that hard to fix, but I figured this would save people some time.
Main Version Older:
If you get this error, download the PD15IMG for "Official 2.3.4 Upgrade to stock 2.3.4 Rom (Unrooted)" found at the thread on the following link. This will unroot your phone and give you stock 2.3.4. Easy enough.
---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
Now after I returned to stock and got my replacement, I wanted to root my phone again. However, I never rooted from GB before so I had no idea what to do. I know it's been mentioned that there's a guide on how to downgrade in the newcomer's thread and someone posted the link below. When I got my replacement though, I didn't feel like a "newcomer" so naturally that wasn't the first place I looked. I know people might be upset cause there's already a guide stickied, but here's the guide I followed.
How to Downgrade:
---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
All credit of course goes to the OP of the respective threads.
A couple months ago when I had this problem, rather than posting what I did to fix it I just said anyone who needs help could PM me. I've gotten quite a few PM's over the last couple weeks, regarding both the "Main Version Older Error" and people having trouble downgrading. So here's everything I used, in one spot. I hope this helps save people some time by pointing them in the right direction.

Hey, thanks for posting this. Sometimes its nice to have a thread where you are pointed to the right place.
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So this is for the latest 2.3.4? I was going to try this:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Does that not work?
I am comfortable with the instructions you linked except for the goldcard part if needed.

neidlinger's stickied thread in the general section actually points you to that downgrade through xda's wiki for htc glacier.
He also has a lot of other goodies that newcomers and what nots should check out.
Why don't people read stickies! lol

Teo032 said:
Why don't people read stickies! lol
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That. Or Wiki...

sdc177 said:
So this is for the latest 2.3.4? I was going to try this:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Does that not work?
I am comfortable with the instructions you linked except for the goldcard part if needed.
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Its not the method I used but I assume that should work too.
And sorry guys I understand this is kind of a repost, but it seems like there's a new thread every couple days with someone having trouble downgrading. And I haven't seen anything anywhere else about the "main version older" problem. I just figured this would be helpful to some people.
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jberg22 said:
Its not the method I used but I assume that should work too.
And sorry guys I understand this is kind of a repost, but it seems like there's a new thread every couple days with someone having trouble downgrading. And I haven't seen anything anywhere else about the "main version older" problem. I just figured this would be helpful to some people.
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Lol no worries, it's just that people will ignore your thread too and post questions how to do it. It's just never ending. There will be people asking how do you root when there's a big sticky that gives you instructions.

Teo032 said:
Lol no worries, it's just that people will ignore your thread too and post questions how to do it. It's just never ending. There will be people asking how do you root when there's a big sticky that gives you instructions.
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Lol yeah, it's like they're blind or something
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Teo032 said:
Lol no worries, it's just that people will ignore your thread too and post questions how to do it. It's just never ending. There will be people asking how do you root when there's a big sticky that gives you instructions.
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From an outsiders perspective, a lot of the information appears stale or does not seem very specific.
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Updated 10 char

today's OTA update from Sprint - Q&A time!

to hopefully decrease the number of posts from members in the coming days about the new OTA that Sprint/HTC released today (but will not officially "push" to devices until January 24,) I would like to point out some things to new members as well as veterans, as we see this happen every time a new OTA is pushed.
latests news/updates in bold.
flashing lights reminder: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, DO NOT UNROOT TO GET THIS OTA UPDATE FROM SPRINT. YOU WILL LOSE THE ABILITY TO RE ROOT AS REVOLUTIONARY DOES NOT WORK YET WITH THE NEW HBOOT 2.18
1. Number one rule, and i will cap this DO NOT ACCEPT A OTA UPDATE IF YOU ARE ROOTED. it has been said many many times here, and members with rooted phones do it anyways. why risk it???? we all saw the gingerbread debacle last year.
2. New HBoot. it seems the new ota update has a new h-boot, 2.18, and from what it seems and this may remain to be seen 100% it is not unlockable with revolutionary. i can not confirm this personally. EDIT: seems the new 2.18 hboot is preparing the evo4g to be added to the unlock bootloader list at htcdev. we await word on when this might be official from htc. UPDATE: seems Captain_Throwback has a way to get your hboot down to 2.10 to use unrevoked. the process is long but it does work, as I have tested it myself.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-"
4. Why the update? The big part of this update was to remove CIQ from the evo's. yay. There were small improvements to Peep (the htc twitter client) and other various fixes. report of battery life being worse than 4.54 have been reported.
5. So when will my favorite rom be updated to the OTA base? well, we already have a stock rom based on the ota (actually 2!) , it is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455340
so this is a start. your favorite rom will be updated by it's developer when the dev has time, last update we had (4.54) we saw a rapid update of roms.
6. Great, so has sense changed at all? No we are still at sense 1.0 sigh.
7. so how about the new kernel? it is now based on htc 2.6.35.10 dated december 21, 20011. Captain_Throwback has extracted the kernel standalone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654186&postcount=3214
7a. What "hacks" work with the the new stock rom you posted? look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459982
8. i have a question!! well use the search function and see if it has been answered, look here, the Q&A threads, or the dev threads. I hope this will clear down some of the clutter that comes up during this wonderful thing called an OTA update.

I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try.

teh roxxorz said:
I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try. :_
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i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol

brad560 said:
i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol
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They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.

interesting
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Awesome post bro.. thank you.

^ great info, thanks brad, no doubt this will help some!
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Thanks Brad I flashed your rom. I'm waiting along with everyone else for the new Radios. I cant wait.

teh roxxorz said:
They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.
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OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"

Thanks Brad for the update,its good to know whats going on with our EVO.Looks like sprint has a hardon for stopping developement,but as smart as you guys are,you'll get the HBoot unlocked before long.

HipKat said:
OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"
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That was a nightmare that needs to just stay a memory. D:

will try to update this with relevant info as it comes along.

Great thread and maybe some of the noobs will read it before thinking the ota update is the next greatest thing.
It will be once the devs get ahold of it and move along updating their great roms.
Thank Brad for the new info,
Long live the Evo 4g.

Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.

Has it been confirmed that it cannot get S-Off with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be unlocked... If it cannot, then a deluge of root threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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tropicalbrit said:
Has it been confirmed that it cannot be rooted with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be rooted... If it cannot be rooted, then a deluge of threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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Cannot since revolutionary doesn't support the hboot with the new ota
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I feel I must chime in here and make some further clarifications.
Tools like unrevoked and Revolutionary do NOT give you root. This is a very common misconception. What these tools DO give you is NAND access (S-OFF).
In order to obtain root, a custom recovery is required to flash a rooted ROM. In order to flash a custom recovery, you must have NAND access (S-OFF).
If your phone has S-OFF, you can run rooted and non-rooted ROMS just the same. It all depends on what ROM you flash. What gives a ROM root access is having superuser permissions. This is achieved with ChainDD's Superuser app which grants a ROM with SU permissions. If a ROM has the Superuser app cooked in, it has root access.
So it goes a little something like this:
unrevoked/revolutionary --> S-OFF
S-OFF --> allows flashing custom recovery
custom recovery --> allows flashing custom ROMs
custom ROMs with SU permissions cooked in --> gives you root
S-OFF and Root are only indirectly related.
If you have S-OFF, you will ALWAYS have the ability to flash ROMs, even the latest newest releases.
Here's a further example, my own personal experience:
I obtained S-OFF over a year ago using unrevoked3, which permanently granted S-OFF. Since then I have applied every radio, hboot, etc as they have been released. Never lost S-OFF.
Now regarding this latest OTA release, #12 (4.67.651.3), here is what I did. I flashed a stock unrooted/unmodified 4.54 rom. I then went into settings->system updates and checked for the new ota. I downloaded the OTA, and APPLIED the OTA. Applying the update flashed the new hboot, the stock recovery, and the new radios, as well as the new stock 4.67.651.3 ROM.
After it fully completed it's process I reflashed the custom recovery. From there I am free to flash any ROM I wish. What I did was took the new rom into the developer kitchen and rooted it. Then flashed it. Viola, I am on rooted 4.67.651.3 with full access. In actuality I'm running my barebones build currently, linked in my sig.
Once you run unrevoked or revolutionary you should never have to again. They give you permanent S-OFF. You'll always have the ability to flash a custom recovery, even if you accept an OTA update, and flash ANY custom ROM.
I hope this post helps people better understand the whole root and NAND security process.

bman3333 said:
Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.
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strange, no problems here, i use dev-host for now, seems it is easier to download there for people in work, etc.

thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..

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thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..
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Accepting an OTA does indeed cause you to lose root acces. No arguement there. But it's a simple matter of reflashing a custom recovery and flashing a rooted ROM through recovery and bam back to being rooted.

[Q] New to this Forum

Hey guys. If the title didn't apply, I am new to this forum. I just came from The evo 3d. Switched to this phone. While I think its very cool, I noticed that this forum does not have many ROMs or mods to play around with. That's ok. This phone is only a couple months old so I'm sure with time, more and more development will occur.Anyway to my point. I noticed that my phone is very different than my evo 3d than what I was used to as far as just flashing a recovery and installing a rom or kernel inside recovery. Gaining full s-off etc..
My questions is can someone show me what's different as far as gaining s-off
Method of installing roms
If someone would be kind to point me in the right direction that would be great. Thank you.

Jsparta26 said:
Hey guys. If the title didn't apply, I am new to this forum. I just came from The evo 3d. Switched to this phone. While I think its very cool, I noticed that this forum does not have many ROMs or mods to play around with. That's ok. This phone is only a couple months old so I'm sure with time, more and more development will occur.Anyway to my point. I noticed that my phone is very different than my evo 3d than what I was used to as far as just flashing a recovery and installing a rom or kernel inside recovery. Gaining full s-off etc..
My questions is can someone show me what's different as far as gaining s-off
Method of installing roms
If someone would be kind to point me in the right direction that would be great. Thank you.
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Welcome to the RAZR m....sorry i can't help you, i would if i could
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Root is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940630
Safestrap and a rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012093
Hope this helps. I'm a newb to android, but I think I got this right

What is safestrap if you don't mind me asking?

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What is safestrap if you don't mind me asking?
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Its the recovery that we use with Motorola devices without an unlocked bootloader similar to twrp. We can flash basically anything but kernels and radios I believe. It also forces us to partition our internal memory unfortunately...but it also allows us to boot into multiple different roms without losing settings or apps
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Yoo Sparta follow antp121's thread in the general forum for a complete guide on how to use safe strap for installing cm10 or any other rom for that matter. It will really help you! Helped me a lot... Especially me coming from the droid 3 with clockwork mod and no safe strap. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997229
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jarzy00 said:
Yoo Sparta follow antp121's thread in the general forum for a complete guide on how to use safe strap for installing cm10 or any other rom for that matter. It will really help you! Helped me a lot... Especially me coming from the droid 3 with clockwork mod and no safe strap. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997229
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Thank you guys for all if your very informative information. I will look into these links that were provided for me. I usually go and learn everything I can about a device before attempting to gain root, s-off, or unlocking boot loaders. So far I learned that its not possible to unlock boot loader or gain s-off. Believe me when I was on evo 3d. HTC made it very difficult for us to get s-off by patching up the exploits in the hboot by updating it with every ota update. Luckily, we had some very talented devs to get past the patches and come up with solutions.
I only hope the same could be done with the droid razr's boot loaders. I am just spit balling but would it be possible to petition Motorola to come up with an unlock method and post it on their website like HTC did. Again just spit balling lol