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HTC Magic - worth getting?

Hi all,
I'm normally found (every so often) in the Xperia section (current handset ofc). I have another mobile contract which is coming to an end and have been intrigued by the Magic. I got to play with one today and was pretty impressed (although the GPS was quite a bit off in Google Maps) - the form factor and the fact it is so light was a big plus. The screen was responsive and very clear.
So I guess my question is how have you guys found it in a slightly longer term perspective?
What is the marketplace like and are there a lot of useful apps worth getting?
What is the browsing experience like?
How is the GPS (i.e. accuracy and time to lock)?
How are the media capabilities (namely music and video)? And does anyone use stereo bluetooth headsets with it?
And lastly how good is the contact management/calendar management? Can you get upcoming appointments/reminders to show on the home screen? How many Google calendars can you sync?
Thanks to all who reply!
Fuzzmo.

I guess from the non-replies - No!

I love My g1 dont have the magic hasnt come out in the state yet. the 1.5 update for the g1 is awesome so im guessing the magic is amazing.

Quite a nice phone, but i might send mine back. No sync with Outlook. WTF? This is to force us to use Google products instead.....
Hmmm.... no tar
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no replies cos its a strange question to ask in a magic forum..... android is so much better than WM its not funny- i came to android from a WM phone and it is total daylight between the 2. I had a HTC Touch HD for a couple of weeks, and while the screen looks nice the sensistivity of the screen is terrible compared with the capacitive screen android uses. WM is slow as well.
Magic is definitely worth it- there are so many android phones coming out this year apparently so there will be a lot to choose from by the end of the year...

oh yeah, no Music download store.....
Apple WWDC on Monday, The new iphone is looking good!

mwatson said:
Quite a nice phone, but i might send mine back. No sync with Outlook. WTF? This is to force us to use Google products instead.....
Hmmm.... no tar
Shame
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dont use outlook myelf but my mate does and he says he has an app that he uses to sync with outlook...

MontAlbert said:
dont use outlook myelf but my mate does and he says he has an app that he uses to sync with outlook...
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How do they expect to compete when the most simple essential thing like syncing can't be done? Even my old SE k750 for 6 years ago could sync my contacts and calendar on Outlook.
I've tried the app too but it doesn't work. I understand this is only affecting the Vodafone branded Magic.
Thanks for the tip though..

mwatson said:
oh yeah, no Music download store.....
Apple WWDC on Monday, The new iphone is looking good!
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How can you say its looking good when all we have to go on at the moment are rumours based on thin air of what we think it might be. And what some creepy old guy who reviews phones said, but he didn't really reveal anything.
But I'm unsure whether to get an iPhone, if the next one is a massive improvment and brings something awesome to the table I might get it. Otherwise I'm getting the Magic.
Just my predictions for the next iPhone....A higher resolution screen, possibly OLED, more RAM, 32GB version, bluetooth which can transfer files not just a headset, bigger battery, thinner phone. That said, I think the Samsung i7500 (android phone) will be able to beat it on all points except RAM.

mwatson said:
Quite a nice phone, but i might send mine back. No sync with Outlook. WTF? This is to force us to use Google products instead.....
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You can sync your contacts, etc. using HTC sync.
In can be found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519270
I'm defiantly getting the magic. I don't like apple and I want something different from my Tytn II that I have been using (and loved) for the past 20 months. It has heaps of apps, you can tinker with it... my type of phone.

AdamHC said:
How can you say its looking good when all we have to go on at the moment are rumours based on thin air of what we think it might be. And what some creepy old guy who reviews phones said, but he didn't really reveal anything.
But I'm unsure whether to get an iPhone, if the next one is a massive improvment and brings something awesome to the table I might get it. Otherwise I'm getting the Magic.
Just my predictions for the next iPhone....A higher resolution screen, possibly OLED, more RAM, 32GB version, bluetooth which can transfer files not just a headset, bigger battery, thinner phone. That said, I think the Samsung i7500 (android phone) will be able to beat it on all points except RAM.
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I'm going by the recent announcement in Marh of 3.0 not any predictions. I'd put my money on new iphone on Monday.

What's in your Evo?

Ok, I know I'm jumping the gun, but I thought this would be a good idea. We'll need somewhere to list and discuss apps for the Evo. I know discussions will go far beyond this thread, but a place to compile a list and links to download or for instructions or to troubleshoot and so on and so forth will be handy.
I'm not sure what I'm doing, but it appears the size of posts is limited and from what I've seen the thing to do is to reserve some space at the beginning of the thread to make helpful information throughout the thread easily accessible at the beginning so I'm going to reserve some space if I can.
Advice is welcome. Please offer advice. If I choke (and embarass myself) and end up not getting an Evo (not likely as I think I want it more than sex) or fail to keep the thread updated I'm gessing we have other options like an administrator letting someone else edit my posts or moving info to a better thread or something.
I'm thinking this could get to be a huge thread so I think I'll reserve 3 more posts. If that's too many I guess they can be deleted. If we need more can an administrator insert them? If you have ideas on how we should structure this please speak up.
Since I'm jumping the gun I guess the place to start is with what we think it will come loaded with and what we want it to come with. Eventually we'll just list what's available for the Evo.
I've never done this and may prove to be unreliable and considered just making this a suggestion so if anyone is experienced and gung-ho about it and wants to take over right now feel free to step up.

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bad idea?
Should I request deleting? I've never used Android so I seriously am looking for help finding, installing, and getting through issues. I know there are other clueless people like me also so why not make a one stop shop for the apps this phone can use.
One thing I think I may have just realized is where to get apps. I'm a winmo user and I think I've only bought one app and never understood why anyone needed Marketplace. I've downloaded apps from all over the internet and never even been to Marketplace. Are all (or most, or what) Android apps at android.com? I read there were like 30,000 android apps, but haven't seen them. I figured a market was an iphone thing.
Some of the best threads I've read were very well organized and were updated to make info easy to find. Some threads look promising, but get really long and you never know when you'll find what you're actually looking for. Maybe I just don't search well, but often what I think is a good search produces unsatifying results. This site is huge now and very difficult to search.
I really would love input from senior members and would like to know as much as possible before I get this phone. I have actually been worried about switching over to Android, but the new hardware and network seem too good(not to mention the new windows direction). I've heard good stuff about Android, but just don't understand it.
I'm worried about being stuck with just 5 or 7 screens. I know windows has to use apps to get it's multiple screens (UL, ilaunch, claunch...), but I haven't heard of anythig like that with Android. I've settled into touchflo and really like using the slider rather than flicking like I did with UL (especially multiple times to get where I want).
I'm under the impression the Android screens are customizable in that you can use shortcuts or widgets, but I'd like to have several full screen widgets (more than 6) and a launcher and a home screen with more info (even more than touchflo/sense on winmo). Is there anything like that?
Please tell me (and other untechies) about Android. Don't be a johnson. Sorry, couldn't pass that up.

hey I'm an asshole... and proud of it... I'm not known for my kindness
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you say you want 5-7 homescreens now.... wait till you use it... you might use 3-4.... MAYBE... I only use 2, but hey that's me. Also if you are that freaking skitso there's a homescreen replacement out there with up to 10 or 13 or something absolutely retarded amount of homescreens if you MUST have that many.
You can customize like there's no tomorrow, makes winmo look like a gimped iphone in that respect. You can change basically every aspect of everything if you look hard enough.
Touchflow is senceUI... senceUI is touchflow... same exact thing. If you don't like your senceUI (what will come with the evo), you can do the vanillia android home if you want, or enjoy one of the many many homescreen replacements, of which there is about a thousand different themes for icons menus screens title bars etc etc etc etc etc.
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSeLuJBWDU
the apps don't run on the 5-7 screens, they're separate and "unlimited" based off of available ram, if you use up resources it closes the one android feels you aren't useing anymore to free up ram for your running app. It isn't as bad as it sounds in practical use, you won't notice it closing stuff in the background, the screens are only for widgets like in the video.
Like I said, customize your heart out. You don't have to be a rocket surgeon either, download a app, maybe a buck or two and go to town. There's free options, but it's not paying some big fruit company it's going into the developer's pockets so give them a buck if you like it. I have never paid over a dollar for any app I buy... and I have like 20 I felt the need to pay for. Small change in comparison to what I pay each month to use the phone... or what I paid for the phone in the first place.
Compare to a desktop or laptop and the amount of usage for a paid app... much better ratio of fun for price.
no need for this topic in my opinion, I'd recommend it be deleted, but it's your call if you feel like updating it with what you find useful in the link I provided.
I want a dollar for my time... thanks.

Manicmobileaddict said:
Should I request deleting? I've never used Android so I seriously am looking for help finding, installing, and getting through issues. I know there are other clueless people like me also so why not make a one stop shop for the apps this phone can use.
One thing I think I may have just realized is where to get apps. I'm a winmo user and I think I've only bought one app and never understood why anyone needed Marketplace. I've downloaded apps from all over the internet and never even been to Marketplace. Are all (or most, or what) Android apps at android.com? I read there were like 30,000 android apps, but haven't seen them. I figured a market was an iphone thing.
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Most legit apps can be found in the Marketplace, both free and for $$. Off and on, you may see someone post up an app here that they're working on, but the eventual goal is to get it in the Marketplace for the most part. It seems that you went looking for Moby ****, and only found a white whale!

johnsongrantr said:
hey I'm an asshole... and proud of it... I'm not known for my kindness
i never said that and you gotta admit the pun was too good to pass on[/I]
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thanks
you say you want 5-7 homescreens now.... wait till you use it... you might use 3-4.... MAYBE... I only use 2, but hey that's me.
full screen widgets not homescreens, I use 8 now
Also if you are that freaking skitso
me?
there's a homescreen replacement out there with up to 10 or 13 or something absolutely retarded amount of homescreens if you MUST have that many.
You can customize like there's no tomorrow, makes winmo look like a gimped iphone in that respect. You can change basically every aspect of everything if you look hard enough.
cool
Touchflow is senceUI... senceUI is touchflow... same exact thing.
SenSe, different on winmo and android
If you don't like your senceUI (what will come with the evo), you can do the vanillia android home if you want, or enjoy one of the many many homescreen replacements, of which there is about a thousand different themes for icons menus screens title bars etc etc etc etc etc.
cool
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSeLuJBWDU
some pretty cool features there, but not too fond of the leap (2 handed op)
the apps don't run on the 5-7 screens, they're separate and "unlimited" based off of available ram, if you use up resources it closes the one android feels you aren't useing anymore to free up ram for your running app. It isn't as bad as it sounds in practical use, you won't notice it closing stuff in the background, the screens are only for widgets like in the video.
so it multi-tasks? cool. any limit to the # of shortcuts per screen?
Like I said, customize your heart out. You don't have to be a rocket surgeon either, download a app, maybe a buck or two and go to town. There's free options there if you're a jew,
I am
but it's not paying some big fruit company it's going into the developer's pockets so give them a buck if you like it. I have never paid over a dollar for any app I buy... and I have like 20 I felt the need to pay for. Small change in comparison to what I pay each month to use the phone... or what I paid for the phone in the first place.
Compare to a desktop or laptop and the amount of usage for a paid app... much better ratio of fun for price.
no need for this topic in my opinion, I'd recommend it be deleted, but it's your call if you feel like updating it with what you find useful in the link I provided.
its been useful to me so far, but we can delete it
I want a dollar for my time... thanks.
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how do I do that, the tip?

Jye75 said:
Most legit apps can be found in the Marketplace, both free and for $$. Off and on, you may see someone post up an app here that they're working on, but the eventual goal is to get it in the Marketplace for the most part. It seems that you went looking for Moby ****, and only found a white whale!
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Same link the johnson gave? Any others?

Manicmobileaddict said:
Same link the johnson gave? Any others?
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www.android.com
www.androidanarchy.com

What's in your Evo you ask?
A 1GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ processor, the award-winning HTC SenseTM user experience, an 8.0 megapixel auto-focus camera with HD-capable video camcorder and a forward-facing 1.3 megapixel camera. The large vibrant 4.3 inch display, built-in kickstand, 3.5 mm headset jack and HDMI output make HTC EVO 4G an unparalleled platform for wireless entertainment. Download music, pictures, files, or videos in seconds – not minutes – and watch streaming video on the go on a network with download speeds that are up to 10 times faster than 3G speeds.1 With built-in mobile hotspot functionality, HTC EVO 4G also allows up to eight Wi-Fi-enabled devices, including laptop, camera, music player, video player and any other Wi-Fi-enabled device, to enjoy the benefits of 4G speeds on the go.

...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.

keatre said:
...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.
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picture or it didn't happen

keatre said:
...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.
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Reasons why I bought a Sprint Hero on Craigslist for $200 bucks lol

johnsongrantr said:
picture or it didn't happen
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Mad photoshop skillz.

keatre said:
Mad photoshop skillz.
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Sir, for that, I bestow apon you +5,000 internets

universal remote/dongle
Anyone know of anything like Totalremote from Griffin that can use the sound to ir converter for phones without an ir port?
I bought Totalremote with the converter off ebay to experiment with on my Mogul, but can't get it to work (it works on my ipaq). The Mogul just has no universal remote solution (unless I can get the ipod method from Engadget working, for which I'll have to get a male 3.5mm to male 3.5mm cord one of these days).
Since I have the converter I'm hoping there will end up being an Android version of Totalremote. I'm very hopefull since iphone is doing one using the headphone jack and since for some reason HTC has moved their jack to the top of the phone (makes you wonder).

40,000 apps to browse?
Ok, so I'm thinking 40,000 Android apps to browse through might be a little overwhelming.
Anyone care to discuss/recommend their favorite or essential Android apps and perhaps throw up links directly to them?

Manicmobileaddict said:
Ok, so I'm thinking 40,000 Android apps to browse through might be a little overwhelming.
Anyone care to discuss/recommend their favorite or essential Android apps and perhaps throw up links directly to them?
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this thread made me spit my mountain dew all over my hero. i hope your happy.
1)metamorph(rooted only; easily changes certain aspects of your phone whereas a flash might change others along with it)
2)wireless tether(rooted only)
3)facebook(not sense's watered down version)
4)estrong task manager (comes with a killall widget)
5)cachemate(makes your phone zippy when used correctly)
6)handcent(oh man...)
7)linda file manager(seems to be the best one, to me)
8)some sort of battery percentage widget(i actually havent settled on one yet)
9)picsaypro(mini photoshop on your phone)
10)google voice(google it)
11)iMusic+widget(limewire on your phone)
edit:
i compiled this list by simply sliding through my app drawer, but didnt even think; the fact is, with the latest 2.1 builds theres litterally NO i.s., so i do my best to keep my app download-age as low as possible. theres actually alot of apps i download, install, use, then uninstall. a fun game you can check out it What The Doodle?! online multiplayer...draw on screen your keyword, people try to guess. I cant remember the name of the other game...Attack!! or somethig. your a cow and you tilt the phone to jump from platform to platform (like teeter, but with a cow, and the final destination is a spaceship)
i expect with the evo i.s. wont be an issue (1g?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?) so maybe ill update the list as i feel the need to remember a long lost app and redownload it.

Your dream Galaxy Tab/Android Application?

I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/

Phone as standard on US Tabs.

Jyveafk said:
Phone as standard on US Tabs.
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+1 that would be bomb

Ditto: phone as standard part of US Galaxy Tab.
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i want to be able to use my Galaxy Tab as a datalogger/basic tuner for the custom ECU running the engine in my car. (i would actually pay a dev 'decent' money to make something like this, needs to communicate with a BT RS-232 serial adapter, and the software can probably be ported from the OpenSource Linux program)
but in the realm of things that more than ~50 people will use... (thousands if it worked on any android device)
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...

Jyveafk said:
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+1
Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.

Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...

coolairG1 said:
+1
Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.
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Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiukg5A1Qvk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfnStW5V1s&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-KjlofNSuE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Something to start you off.

crazy talk said:
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...
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AndroidVNC?
or GMote?

raqball said:
Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...
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And change the colour of that ugly ass application. It comes in different horrible shades based on who your carrier is. I'd actually consider using it if it weren't some neon abortion.

Galaxy Tab said:
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
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I've got a couple of suggestions for apps for the senior people at Samsung.
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
http://www.samsung.com/ae/flash/p2main/low/main_KV_low_01.jpg
http://www.samsung.com/ae/system/consumer/product/2010/10/24/gt_p1000cwaxsg/5_01.jpg
#2 How about an augmented reality system. Kind of like that one described on the Samsung UAE website at http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/...XSG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=feature, but that can't be installed because it the requires Android Market app.
Those would be two ideal apps for Galaxy Tab.

Phone as standard on the us version is a must.
Agree that the Daily Briefing app is cool. Very cool actually... being able to customize it would be nice.
Have we mentioned the phone thing? ... 30 day return policies sure are nice.

I'd like a nice app for google books, specifically the 'my library' part. There are a number of good book manager apps in the market, but none of them sync or integrate with google books. Then there's one or two apps that do sync with google books, but they don't have the other functionality I'm looking for.
What it needs to do is:
Sync with Google Books, not just the full book list, but individual shelves, please.
ISBN/ISSN search, from keyboard or barcode scan (maybe even integrate google goggles to recognize the cover)
Maybe a cover search.
Text search inside books (can just pipe the results from google books)
If it has a nice UI, even better, but that's not the top priority IMHO.

ConceptVBS said:
AndroidVNC?
or GMote?
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PocketCloud

Galaxy Tab said:
I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/
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I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
Otherwise, I am not keeping it.

A podcast player that knows to jump to the next chapter inside a podcast, and diplay each chapter info or image. Like the iTunes on iPad.
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xexes said:
I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
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I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave

brendand said:
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
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FWIW, I don't think that its Samsungs fault that there is no Android Market in Middle-Eastern Tabs - it seems that this is the case for all Android devices (see here).
I know that's about as useful to you as a chocolate teapot, and I fully agree that there should be at least some obvious warning that there is no Market on the device.
Regards,
Dave

For those who can phone...
1. Voice recognition
What really is missing from my perspective is voice recognition since we need an ear phone to speak.
It makes no sense to have to take out the phone from the pocket to place a call.
We should be able to perform this from the ear phone.
2. Task manager
It makes me crazy no to be able to go to an application from the default task manager. We can only kill apps.
3. Google maps and Contact Manager should be integrated
4. Calendar tab should appear in Phone application and integrated with Contacts Manager.
Since I am using that device for professional purpose I am more interested in real life application than in Asphalt game.

foxmeister said:
I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave
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No offense Dave, but I'm talking about US GSM phones and really don't want a lecture about what I should or should not be doing.
I am quite aware that UK/Euro phones are fully functional.
The guy asked for suggestions ... I gave him one.

Want to try wm7

I'm an android guy but was thinking about picking up a wm7 phone, more than likely a samsung focus due to the samoled screen. Are they a good phone or I should ask, is it a good os. I just want something different than typical android, its basically, once you've owned one they are pretty much all the same. Is wm7 the same. I guess I could move from 1 to the other as I get bored. Is there any customizing for wm7 phones?
Thanks
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For the starter, it is WP7, not WM7. Windows Mobile is dead. Windows Phone is what it is called now. Go to any AT&T store and play with it. Most stores have live phones (not dummy units) you can play with.

foxbat121 said:
For the starter, it is WP7, not WM7. Windows Mobile is dead. Windows Phone is what it is called now. Go to any AT&T store and play with it. Most stores have live phones (not dummy units) you can play with.
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This.
Also, all WP7 seem to be the same except for hardware. Android has different skins based on manufacturers.

WP7
I have a WP7 and think it is the most user friendly smart phone out there.
Yes they all have to have the same starting user interface, but that is where it changes because it becomes very personalized as soon as you start to add your acounts to it and have the live tiles update with your information.
When the Mango update comes out it will change things for the better again.
I also like that i can use my WP7 to login and administrer my microsoft home server 2011. I can also stream music, pictures and video's from the server to my phone. Pretty cool function.
IMHO

Stuck with Samsung software...

Just speculating but my guess is to get a full and true experience with this device (edge screen) we'll most likely need to stick with Samsung's software. I can't imagine Google will build in edge possibilities with say Gmail, Calendar, Keep etc. I hope I'm wrong but I just can't see it.
I'm sure the brilliant minds here will help the situation out though.

I think that may be totally possible and buying it thinking that there will be a ton of 3rd party dev would be slightly delusional
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opensourcefan said:
Just speculating but my guess is to get a full and true experience with this device (edge screen) we'll most likely need to stick with Samsung's software. I can't imagine Google will build in edge possibilities with say Gmail, Calendar, Keep etc. I hope I'm wrong but I just can't see it.
I'm sure the brilliant minds here will help the situation out though.
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3rd party will kick in but I bet it will take a while. That a small market of people who have the phone.
Google has a few things but very small. They have to do list, Gmail icon etc.. nothing big.
I'd like to see :
Ebay panel for ending soon item live update.
Smart remote panel for top 5 frav. channels and while on that panel the volume keys should work for the tv.
Facebook panel for status from selected people scrolling.
And probably some more stuff I can't think of right now. Lol. One can dream can't they.
But I bet we will start to see some more panels once more people start to get the phone.