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http://tinyurl.com/3m8t8xx looks like it might be it but even better with the 4.5 inch screen instead of 4.3.
From this article here http://tinyurl.com/3cvcy47 it says that Sprint, AT&T and Verizon Galaxy S2 will be getting this accessory and maybe T-Mobile wasnt added to this list because the T-Mobile version will maybe be getting a Galaxy S2 with a modified form factor then the rest of the carriers, what do you guys think? It has a new Quallcomm dual 1.2 chip in there instead of the Exnos or Tegra im not sure if that will be a good move or a bad move because Samsungs chip was proven faster then Quallcomms dual processor in the HTC Sensation but maybe this updated chip will have better results..
Was just reading up on this as well
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new...idandme+(Android+and+Me)&utm_content=FaceBook
Android 2.3 Gingerbread
1.2 Ghz Dual-core Qualcomm APQ8060 Processor
4.5-inch Super AMOLED Plus display with a resolution of 480 x 800
1GB of RAM and 16GB of ROM
8MP back-facing camera with flash
Front-facing camera
1080p video recording
HDMI-out with the microUSB port
4G support for both T-Mobile and AT&T
NFC support
Not SUPER impressed, but looks pretty nice.
Im very interested in how this new Qualcomm chip will do againts the Qualcomm chip in the Sensation.
It's rumoured to come out in Q4....when Tegra3 devices will begin popping up, doesn't seem as awe inspiring as before :/
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Im very interested in how this new Qualcomm chip will do againts the Qualcomm chip in the Sensation.
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Here's a product brief of the Qualcomm MSM8x60 (MSM8260 for Sensation) and APQ8060 (for Hercules).
http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief
Here's some info on the modem Qualcomm MDM8220.
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2009/11/12/qualcomm-looking-ahead/#more-613
"Qualcomm’s MDM8220 dual-carrier HSPA+ solution, based on the 3GPP Release 8 standard, provides peak downlink data rates of up to 42 megabits per second (Mbps) and 11 Mbps on the uplink, allowing carriers to easily upgrade their existing infrastructure equipment to achieve significantly higher bandwidths. Its dual-carrier technology doubles networks’ bandwidth from 5 MHz to 10 MHz by aggregating two HSPA carriers in parallel."
The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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theres no way that could be true. I mean whats the highest price phones go for? 199 usually and 250 with a $50 mail in rebate? still puts it at 199 after MIR. I doubt they would want to be the first to break that by a good $100.
i mean cmon, Apple hasnt even done it for the iphones yet! hahaha
i was desperately trying to buy the SGS2 last week, and iu was about to hit the buy button. i wanted that full RGB pixel display instead of hte pentile.
but i went to ATT and played with the Infuse, and i actually was not that impressed as i thought i would be. the pixels actually looked a little better on my nexus one cause of the smaller size even though the pentile stinks.
so now i'm not so sure about all these 4.5 inch AMOLED plus screens coming out. a little too big i think.
That 4.5" is big that I also tried the Infuse...I'll be checking out the Sensation's 4.3" for size/feel once released.
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The Hercules sounds great, but I'm worried that it won't get much support from Samsung or XDA since it won't likely sell very many if the $350 on contract rumors are true.
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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That's good news. I guess the remaining issue is how long it will take for the Hercules to arrive and would it be smarter just to wait for the SGS3.
I'm either getting the nokia n9, Nexus 3 or this phone.
TMOnews says it's available for preorder....
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/mobile-city-online-posts-samsung-hercules-for-preorder-with-great-photoshop-job/
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=28052
i dont see how it can have the apq8060 or w/e apq it is. because that's a processor without a modem for any data, so the specs have to be wrong. ive done some research and it's been a pain in the you know what. if it's the msm8x60 im not getting. i want this because of the high speed hspa+ 42mbps. thats insane. i saw a video of the rocket 3.0 pulling in 25mbps down and 5 up. would be cool if it were 4.3" with the exynos processor though. i played with the infuse seems too big. but the "hercules" is just a tad bit shorter not much though.
bb6h22lude4 said:
i dont see how it can have the apq8060 or w/e apq it is. because that's a processor without a modem for any data, so the specs have to be wrong. ive done some research and it's been a pain in the you know what. if it's the msm8x60 im not getting. i want this because of the high speed hspa+ 42mbps. thats insane. i saw a video of the rocket 3.0 pulling in 25mbps down and 5 up. would be cool if it were 4.3" with the exynos processor though. i played with the infuse seems too big. but the "hercules" is just a tad bit shorter not much though.
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It's all rumor though right now. It could potentially end up with a exynos cpu if enough of them are made available. If they tried to launch a "Hercules" today they probably wouldn't have exynos stock due to the popularity of the GSII.
it's no longer a rumour, it's reality now
it's was officially unveiled at the show http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249995
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The $350 pricing is off-contract. According to the Samsung leak, it was in the "over $350" price category. Considering the SGS2 retails for $800 off-contract...
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Nah, not $800, but $500-$599. I consider that price way to close to tablet territory. No offense though.
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i will pass this one up and wait for nexus prime...a better phone imho
It will not have the Exynos chip like the other because the Exynos does not suppurt speeds padt 21 mbps, but lets see what other chip they willhave that can hopefully match the Exynos chisp performance...
yup this indeed has been confirmed by the Tweet from Samsung
http://tinyurl.com/44p7rck
(Engadget)
This was a major bummer to find out as my girlfriend and I were seriously considering switching to a GS2 once it's released. Lucky for her, she's on AT&T so once the announcement drops it won't be long till she has a fancy new device. However it seems I'm SOL... Or am I?
Initially I didn't quite understand this as the SGS2 is one of the most anticipated devices to be released in the US ever since the unanimous praise overseas. After thinking about it and taking note of the comment in that story that they have a similar device in the works, one must wonder if this non-SGS2 mystery phone is the rumored Nexus Prime. I believe I read that its being manufactured by Samsung like the Nexus S was, so this increases the possibility of the rumors being true; Verizon may be the first carrier to receive the Nexus Prime.
Or it could be something like the Continuum and we'll be stuck with lackluster devices till the Vigor!
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Yeah, this news is disappointing for VZW customers. The SGS2 is a really nice device. The only thing I don't like is its 480 x 800 resolution and Touchwiz UI. Custom roms will get around the UI, but nothing can help the low res.
With the HTC Vigor & Nexus Prime both rumored to drop in October, they'll definitely be the best devices on the market (for maybe a week ). With, at least, the Vigor definitely coming to VZW, I don't think we'll miss the GS2 all that much.
Lets just hope the Prime makes it through to VZW as well.
HTC Vigor
4G LTE
1.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor
Android OS 2.3.4 (will get Ice Cream Sandwich)
4.3-inch 1280x720 HD Display
1GB RAM
8-Megapixel Camera
?-Megapixel Front-facing Camera
??GB Internal Storage
Bluetooth 3.0 (SIG Certified reported 8-25-11)
HTC Sense 3.5
Beats by Dr. Dre Audio Technology
Nexus Prime
4G LTE ???
1.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor
Android OS 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
4.5-inch 1280x720 Super AMOLED Plus Display
1GB RAM
16GB Internal Storage
Bluetooth 3.0 (???)
8-Megapixel Camera
2-Megapixel Front-facing Camera
Nexus prime is mine! Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine
If the Prime and Vigor don't materialize, I'm going to happily wait until April when my contract ends and switch to Sprint. Verizon is quickly losing me as a customer with their recent moves.
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If the Prime and Vigor don't materialize, I'm going to happily wait until April when my contract ends and switch to Sprint. Verizon is quickly losing me as a customer with their recent moves.
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+1! They took my unlimited data away on two of my lines when I switched the devices on those lines, I switched them from "feature" phones to smartphones, so I'm going to see if they change it back or else I'm switching to Sprint. I did not know they did this until I got my bill.
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Hi guys, I'm just gonna go straight to the point... I hate Tegra. It's so weak. I can't bear the fact that my phone (HTC Sensation) is better than my tablet! My phone can play 1080p flawlessly, while my GTab stutters on 720p! The GTab is a beautiful device, and I love honeycomb, but why the heck did Samsung use Tegra instead of Exynos on this tab?
I bought this tab a week ago, my question is, could I take it back to Best Buy and wait for the Tab 8.9? Or they don't care about buyer's regret?
Thanks in advance btw.
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Hi guys, I'm just gonna go straight to the point... I hate Tegra. It's so weak. I can't bear the fact that my phone (HTC Sensation) is better than my tablet! My phone can play 1080p flawlessly, while my GTab stutters on 720p! The GTab is a beautiful device, and I love honeycomb, but why the heck did Samsung use Tegra instead of Exynos on this tab?
I bought this tab a week ago, my question is, could I take it back to Best Buy and wait for the Tab 8.9? Or they don't care about buyer's regret?
Thanks in advance btw.
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I think tab 8.9 uses Tegra 2 as well? I think you might as well wait for the next-gen tabs considering they will be out by the end of this year.
Yep, 8.9 is still Tegra 2, so you might as well wait for the next gen tabs.
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You can take it back. They won't even charge you a restocking fee. However, the 8.9 uses the exact same processor, so what would be the point
Oh. I thought the Tab 8.9 used an Exynos processor. Hmmm guess ill keep my current tab. Thanks guys
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The Tab 7.7 uses Exynos clocked at 1.4GHz.
The standard Tab 8.9 uses the same 1GHz Tegra2 as your existing Tab but the LTE version will uses something else - it may or may not be Tegra2 (though I think not) but whatever it is, it'll be clocked at 1.5GHz
I would assume Qualcomm since Exynos doesn't support LTE, correct?
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That would be a reasonable guess, yeah - especially since they seem to be sticking Qualcomm CPUs into the LTE Galaxy S2 variants.
The other possibility would be one of TI's OMAP chips but I don't see that personally.
I guess another option is that they could just be OCing Tegra2 SoCs but again it's unlikely.
The Qualcomm chips have the advantage that they produce variants with no modems which would allow Samsung to use whatever preferred LTE radio chip manufacturer they have an agreement with.
These APQ Snapdragon models are targeted more towards tablets and, I believe, have more bus bandwidth and their RAM clocked a fair bit faster than the MSM8X60 CPUs they're based on, so the performance should be pretty decent if that's what they're using.
So had my HD2 for 2 and a half years, was on a 2 year contract but they didn't offer me an upgrade and I didn't keep track
Anyway, love my HD2 with android on it, is there much of a point in upgrading to a newer phone like the Galaxy s2, or should I wait and get an even better one in the near future?
If so, what are the new phones I should look out for?
Yeh I would wait if you currently happy, Most devices are on Android 2.3.7, I would wait for ICS to be the standard OS version & better hardware/battery spec of future development.
I don't think the upgrade to SGII or any other phone right now to be worth it. I would only consider Samsung Galaxy Note due to it's big screen.
On April quad core phones are expected to arrive, like the HTC Edge. If you can resist the urge to buy, wait until then.
So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
RMXO said:
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.
I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
ThePublisher said:
I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
Give us a new Note 8.
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
midnightrider said:
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.