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Streak 299.99 or 549.99

http://www.androidcentral.com/dell-streak-and-aero-priced-dell-website
Dell has announced the prices for the much anticipated Streak and Aero Android phones. The 5-inch Streak will be $299.99 with an eligible two-year AT&T agreement, and $549.99 if bought outright. It's normal-sized little brother, the Aero, will run you $99.99 with contract, and only $299.99 off contract.
For the Streak, you will need to sign up for the pre-sale opportunity, which gives you a spot in line, free shipping and a $0.99 cent Plantronics Bluetooth headset. Those who register will receive a special purchase link sometime on July 27, and if you don't use it before July 28, the deal disappears. No such deal for the Aero, which will be available at the Dell website on Aug. 9. [Dell]

this is great

$299 w/ contract is a lot for a Snapdragon based device running android 1.6. I've been torn between the Streak and Captivate but at those prices the Captivate is a easy choice.
The Aero doesn't actually seem too bad compared to the $129 Aria.

Too bad for us T-mo users.....
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...10/07/26/dell-streak-update-where-we-are.aspx

Puddle Jumper said:
$299 w/ contract is a lot for a Snapdragon based device running android 1.6. I've been torn between the Streak and Captivate but at those prices the Captivate is a easy choice.
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Not really.
The Streak is miles better and will be even better when we get the 2.X update later this year.
Also, Samsung make terrible, terrible phones... (not quite as bad as Motorola though )

Meltus said:
Not really.
The Streak is miles better and will be even better when we get the 2.X update later this year.
Also, Samsung make terrible, terrible phones... (not quite as bad as Motorola though )
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It actually is when we are about three months away from dual core phones. Also samsung has really stepped up their game with the Galaxy series. I haven't seen one bad review for these phones. Streak as epic as it is, 299.99 is alot when you can get an iphone 4 for 199 or a captivate for 199.99.

Meltus said:
Not really.
The Streak is miles better and will be even better when we get the 2.X update later this year.
Also, Samsung make terrible, terrible phones... (not quite as bad as Motorola though )
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Don't get me wrong I really like the Streak form factor and was set on getting the device when my contract is up but I can't justify spending $100+ more for slower hardware (and an older OS). The Scorpion cpu in the Snapdragon SoC is competitive enough but the Adreno 200 gpu is severely underpowered compared to the PowerVR SGX 540 in the Galaxy S series.
I've heard the horror stories about Samsung's poor support for older phones but they seem to have turned a new leaf with the Galaxy S phones. They have already announced a update to Froyo and if the speculation is accurate it may actually come out before Dell releases one for the Streak.
If Dell would release a refreshed streak with a Tegra 2, Snapdragon Dual Core, or Moorestown SoC $299 then w/ contract would be justified but the current model should be priced at $199 or less to be in line with devices running similar hardware.

Looks like they might back away from that pricing -
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/07/...his-week-pricing-apparently-not-official.html

Galaxy Tab official reveal at IFA Berlin

In case no one had seen this yet:
http://gizmodo.com/5627498/samsungs-galaxy-tab-takes-on-the-ipad-just-like-android-does-the-iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-galaxy-tab-preview/
Includes hands on video in the Engadget link. Gotta say, very impressed. Only let down might be that they didn't manage a SAMOLED screen, but the one they chose looks good so far.
Also, conflicting reports on the CPU. Gizmodo and that press sheet say A8, Engadget says A9. My money is on the same Hummingbird that's in the Galaxy S though.
The Samsung GALAXY Tab (GT-P1000) Product Specifications
Network
2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE) : 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G (HSUPA 5.76Mbps, HSDPA 7.2Mbps) : 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
OS
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Display
7.0 inch TFT-LCD, WSVGA (1024 x 600)
Processor
Cortex A8 1.0GHz Application Processor with PowerVR SGX540
Camera
3 MP Camera with Auto-Focus and LED Flash
1.3MP front camera for Video Telephony
Value-added
Features
Android Market™ and Samsung Apps for more applications and contents
Readers Hub, Media Hub* , Music Hub*, Social Hub
*Availability will be decided by market preference.
Adobe Flash 10.1 player support
Full HD video playback, Thinkfree Office, Swype, Hybrid Widget
Connectivity
30 pin connector
WiFi 802.11n / Bluetooth® 3.0
Sensor
Gyroscope sensor, Geo-magnetic sensor, Accelerometer, Light sensor
Memory
16G / 32G internal memory with up to 32G external memory slot
RAM: 512 MB
Size
190.09 x 120.45 x 11.98mm, 380g
Battery
4,000mAh (7 hour movie play)
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I just want to know the price.

If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!

rmanaudio said:
If it is in the $300 range I will buy one!
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how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...

matty___ said:
how much is the galaxy S again? right so you want a larger version of the phone for less money..
Lets see how that will work out...
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If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.

yea $399 seems like a fair price..

Apparently a finnish press release (by email) set the price to 949€ (~$1200)... Which is somewhat higher than the "fair" price you wish for... I doubt they will sell very many if that's accurate. And it pisses me off that they didn't toss in a 1280x720 screen... I don't care if Android doesn't support the resolution.. It's not like it's impossible to make it support it, it's OPEN SOURCE.

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100

matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.

I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.

MORE IMPORTANT:
- This equipment is very similar to our SGS and will be updated to Gingerbread (Android 3.0)
- Someone from Samsung mentioned they're working already in Honeycomb (Android 3.X)!
Long life to SGS is garanteed!
BTW: Did someone find any benchmark figures from the SGT?

Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
Samsung Galaxy S Series
----Galaxy S General & News
----Galaxy S Q/A & Help Desk
----Galaxy S Android Development
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 Brazil [I9B]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000 International [I9]
-----------------Galaxy S GT-I9000M Vibrant [I9M]
-----------------Galaxy S I909 China [I9C]
-----------------Galaxy S SPH-D700 Epic 4G [E]
-----------------Galaxy S SCH-I500 Fascinate [F]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-I897 Captivate [C]
-----------------Galaxy S SGH-T959 Vibrant [V]
-----------------Galaxy S SHW-M110S Korea [K]
-----------------Galaxy S [model ID pending] Tab [T]
----Galaxy S Accessories
-----------------Galaxy S International [I9][I9B][I9M][I9C][K]
-----------------Galaxy S USA models [F][C][V]
-----------------Galaxy S Epic 4G [E]
----Galaxy S Applications & Themes
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i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already

matty___ said:
Well not really samsung wants to sell phones not software.guess it's for their new flash ship
Just think about how many people will buy it if they think they will get amdroid 3.
So by then samsung can change their mind because the customers paid already.
So if some guy says something off the record it means nothing
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Samsung Tablets: Gingerbread, Honeycomb, a 'full portfolio' in 2011:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-tablets-gingerbread-honeycomb-full-portfolio-2011

rmanaudio said:
If it goes into the $500 range, they are in the ipad range then. I dont think they can compete with the ipad unless they offer more (which they do) for less!
So, my guess is $399.
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No, iPad is $640 range sans for the 3G, (there are some reports there will be a wifi-only but I happen to believe the reports that all will have a cell radio, even if coming disabled by default unless sold by a carrier...end part my speculation):
a camera, let alone two
dual band wireless N
expandable storage
pixel density (sacrficing screen size, but increasing holdability and portability)
flash support
...no point in going on, they are going all out, Apple held something back
form factors & OS to be argued, but I think Apple-Central (Engadget) themselves said they like this one for it's one-handed possibilities, better for e-reading due to the pixel density, weight and form factor
I can tell you that it's main competitor in Korea is coming in at less than $300 US without a contract and free on contract (less than $30/month wi-bro contract). This is definitely a better device, but if we can see other non-Apple's doing cheap then we can see this having great options as well.
I definitely expect this in the 400-500 range, $500 is a bit of a shame for people that will go without a data plan, but it is what it is and adds future flexibility.
matty___ said:
well I paid 480 euros for my phone so 400$ is like 350 euro.. Hard to belief but lets see...
Wouldn't buy it anyways. give me a dualcore nVidia tegra2 tablet with 3500mah. like toshiba Folio 100
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They won't price these based on exchance rates, that's not how the market works, they price these to what the customers can bear. For example, in England the iPad starts at 429 pounds, in Germany and France the iPad starts at 500 Euro, in the U.S. it starts at $500 USD. Expect Samsung to price according to market as well, and for this to be 400+ Euro.
rmanaudio said:
Phones are phones....look at the iphone, it costs more than the ipad!
Samsung will not make a single dime if they price it more than any ipad!
$399 or less otherwise it will be a big bust for a 7" tablet!
What would be even better is a non-GSM version for $299 so that every Galaxy S user can buy one and teether it when needed.
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The iPhone costs more than the base iPad, you are looking at subsidized pricing versus non-subsidized pricing...there's a difference. Again, comparing this to an iPad isn't correct on many levels. First, some people have never been interested in the iPad even if they are mildly or majorly tickled by the idea of having a tablet device. Next, for those who want the GSM version, $400 would be more than $200 cheaper than the iPad, the iPad would be priced more than 50% higher than this! They don't need to undercut them that much, look above and feel free to comment back.
As far as "teethering" goes I swear I've read teethering like 3 times in 2 weeks, is this a new internet meme (anyone can answer and sorry for being slightly off-topic, I'm not the grammar police, just trying to be educated on what's hip )
AllGamer said:
not really news, as we already included it on our future plans
i guess no many picked it up from google news
it's been on for about a week already
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I think many, many of us knew. At least those that read the webblogs, this thing has more leaks than the Bush Administration (eh, probably could've done better, but hey).

INeedYourHelp said:
I thought I wouldn't get the urge to buy another device for a while.... 32GB! of internal storage? 1024 x 600 Resolution? I hate this
Let's see... Europe will get it first, so I could buy that one and be limited to only 1900mhz 3g of AT&T, but it will be easy to switch from sgs phone (take out sim card, put it in tab, done!).
Or I could wait for the verizon version, and probably get skype with it like all the other verizon android devices. But I already have AT&T contract....
Or I could wait for the Canadian Bell version, but I haven't heard anything about that.
A confirmed price and release date would be nice from them.
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Ooo, now I get to ask my question. I love the Galaxy S, but how many people with a Galaxy S are in the market for this device? I'm really curious, I'd be more tempted by their other offerings in 2011 which will be more feature packed and give me more screen real estate (read, less redundant). I do think the device is sexy, but right now I don't see myself buying one, but am open-minded and want to hear opinions on both sides.

i'll be a nice companion for our phone, to replace a laptop

Cool maybe for the galaxy as well then
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The screen is based on TFT, instead of AMOLED, which Samsung uses on some of its smartphones. The concession was made to lower the cost of the product and improve battery life, which should last up to eight hours, according to Samsung.
On the front is a 1.3-megapixel camera for video calls or conferencing, and on the back a 3-megapixel camera with a LED lamp. The Tab weighs 380 grams, and measures 19 centimeters by 12 cm by 1.2 cm.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183318/Update_Samsung_launches_Galaxy_Tab?taxonomyId=15
with that screen and camera short coming, i think i'll stick with the Phone version better

If it had Super AMOLED display + 1GB RAM and got 2G+3G removed, I'd be very interested.
However, I think tablets should get cheaper. I mean... netbooks are getting cheaper day by day and you can buy a decent one with $250-300. I know that tablets are more portable and time-efficient since they don't need booting, but the pricing isn't attractive at all.

Samsung Galaxy SIII SGH-T999

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/samsung-mobile-canada-confirms-galaxy-s-iii-specs-for-t-mobile/
The phone has been confirmed and it is running the Snapdragon S4.......but with 2gb ram. Not bad at all. Full specs at the link provided.
On a side note, I posted one of my unlocked Samsung Galaxy SII's on Craigslist for 400 and got sold. Selling the current one I'm using a week before this release. I would sell the phones now (and unlocked) if possible so that you can get top dollar for it. This should be enough to get something going once it comes out.

That's not even our country...
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dave2metz said:
That's not even our country...
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Did you even read the news link......Telus usually gets the same device we do minus a few different things. TMONEWS is a good source. Stop trolling. Thanks.

These are the true specs.. 2gb of ram is beastly
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Looks like the SIII's will still be in the same "variant hell" that the S-II's are in...here come the bricks!
So we have the S-III with quad core and S-III t999...which basically has the same processor as the S-II plus 2gb ram...woo hoo....-_-
...how can you call 2 different phones the same phone...???

aleks_ said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/samsung-mobile-canada-confirms-galaxy-s-iii-specs-for-t-mobile/
The phone has been confirmed and it is running the Snapdragon S4.......but with 2gb ram. Not bad at all. Full specs at the link provided.
On a side note, I posted one of my unlocked Samsung Galaxy SII's on Craigslist for 400 and got sold. Selling the current one I'm using a week before this release. I would sell the phones now (and unlocked) if possible so that you can get top dollar for it. This should be enough to get something going once it comes out.
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I agree I'm going to sell it now, so I can get good money for it. I have an upgrade for it.
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zander21510 said:
Looks like the SIII's will still be in the same "variant hell" that the S-II's are in...here come the bricks!
So we have the S-III with quad core and S-III t999...which basically has the same processor as the S-II plus 2gb ram...woo hoo....-_-
...how can you call 2 different phones the same phone...???
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Not sure where you got that from but our current T989 runs at 1.5 GHz on a Qualcomm Dual Core Snapdragon S3.......the new phone will be running an S4.....those are two different processors.

aleks_ said:
Did you even read the news link......Telus usually gets the same device we do minus a few different things. TMONEWS is a good source. Stop trolling. Thanks.
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What would telus users be missing cept bloat/spyware?
Out current SII's are exactly the same physically, except without carrier brranding.

Rekzer said:
What would telus users be missing cept bloat/spyware?
Out current SII's are exactly the same physically, except without carrier brranding.
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Like I said.....minus a few different things being those small differences. I'm not sure if you read my post right or not.

zander21510 said:
Looks like the SIII's will still be in the same "variant hell" that the S-II's are in...here come the bricks!
So we have the S-III with quad core and S-III t999...which basically has the same processor as the S-II plus 2gb ram...woo hoo....-_-
...how can you call 2 different phones the same phone...???
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Krait dual core has around the same power and more efficient than quad core exynos Hybrid a15. It is slightly weaker than an a15 but makes up for more. Its basically two dual core processor that have the power of quad core. The 2 gigs ram make this phone a beast. The dual core Gs3 should have significantly better battery life than the quad core single ram international version. Not only that the phone will be equal in power. It is a significant upgrade now because of this. Unless you want to wait till the new quad core true a 15 processor come out.

Does this different processor mean it will be the bastard child again?
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grawkiller73 said:
Does this different processor mean it will be the bastard child again?
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yup
Deebo took your bike too?!

The_Biz said:
yup
Deebo took your bike too?!
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grawkiller73 said:
Does this different processor mean it will be the bastard child again?
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Every usa carrier will have s4 so it wont be a bastard child. Verzion ,at&t and sprint have opt for the s4 processor. Quad doesn't necessarily mean better. Krait is built on a newer generation technology. It has the same power as the exynos being a dual core processor. The only reason the exynos has better benchmarks is because the mali is clocked 50% higher. Development should be good for both usa and non international versions. You would get ports from sprint, verzion , and at&t. No usa carrier will have the original galaxy s3. This is not the same deal as the samsung galaxy s2 was.

I was shooting the **** with my usually very reliable and well informed local tmo store manager and he said he knew the processor was xenos quad.
I know it's hearsay... but i don't think it makes any sense to put an s4 in it. there is no LTE on tmo yet.

aleks_ said:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/samsung-mobile-canada-confirms-galaxy-s-iii-specs-for-t-mobile/
The phone has been confirmed and it is running the Snapdragon S4.......but with 2gb ram. Not bad at all. Full specs at the link provided.
On a side note, I posted one of my unlocked Samsung Galaxy SII's on Craigslist for 400 and got sold. Selling the current one I'm using a week before this release. I would sell the phones now (and unlocked) if possible so that you can get top dollar for it. This should be enough to get something going once it comes out.
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I don't understand why I'm going to pay $300 to go from a 1.5ghz dual-core chip to a 1.5ghz dual-core chip, flash cyanogenmod over it and end up with none of the "software features" that were included in Touchwiz.

will put mine for sale, i want the s3

Any signs of a release date for T-Mobile?

junglizste said:
I was shooting the **** with my usually very reliable and well informed local tmo store manager and he said he knew the processor was xenos quad.
I know it's hearsay... but i don't think it makes any sense to put an s4 in it. there is no LTE on tmo yet.
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T-mobile 42mbs network uses dual band hspa+ to get those speeds exynos only uses single band for 21 hspa+ It it is also not compatible with t-mobile frequencies.
s1lenz said:
I don't understand why I'm going to pay $300 to go from a 1.5ghz dual-core chip to a 1.5ghz dual-core chip, flash cyanogenmod over it and end up with none of the "software features" that were included in Touchwiz.
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It is not the same chip the new dual core processor has = performance in quad core. The two gigs ram will be used more than the quad core processor ever will be used in android. Most apps now only run single core accept games. The best thing to do is actually wait because next year everyone will have quad core a15 processors and ridiculously powerful gpus. To be perfectly honest cyanogenmod and aokp team may add some of these features. Most of these software features are quite possible on our hardware without lagging and killing battery.

s1lenz said:
I don't understand why I'm going to pay $300 to go from a 1.5ghz dual-core chip to a 1.5ghz dual-core chip, flash cyanogenmod over it and end up with none of the "software features" that were included in Touchwiz.
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If you want the new software features that were included with Touchwiz then you probably wouldn't want to flash cyanogenmod.
You are also getting a bigger screen size, bigger/improved battery, HD resolution, 2GB of RAM and as you mentioned the improved Touchwiz with software features. You also get 25GB of Dropbox space when you buy the phone and the new Samsung music hub if you choose to use the service.

grawkiller73 said:
Does this different processor mean it will be the bastard child again?
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No it doesn't. AOSP development on the HTC One S is doing quite well for itself thanks to Intervigilium. This phone uses the same processor as that, so AOSP on the device will already have a kick start and shouldn't be too hard to get going. Also consider all the work that CM and Team Chopsticks have done for this device. A lot of these changes will go a long ways on the SGS3.
I'm not worried at all. This phone is fantastic.

Rumoured Priv Specifications

Some rumours from here,
http://www.smartphoneandprice.com/b...-android-smartphone-full-specs-and-price.html
Can't comment on the accuracy though.
5.4" QHD Display, 2560x1440
18MP Rear facing camera
Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB internal storage, expandable via microSD
3560mAh battery
£250/$350/€320
If true, at that price I'm hugely tempted to move from my Xperia Z2.

While the specs are pretty decent, one of the other rumors Ive heard is that its coming with Lollipop. If I have a phone coming out in the next month or two, I want it to have Marshmallow or an absolute guaranteed timeframe of being upgraded. Granted, I am big on running ROM's but will the bootloader be unlocked to do so? And if so, how many developers will really jump on this phone to work on it?

From what I hear it ships with 5.1.1.
Marshmallow isn't even out yet is it? And is likely to be buggy are launch anyway. I doubt it'll be stable until towards the end of Q1 2016 so I don't think I'd want it shipping on a phone out this year.

That price looks way too low, and the battery rumors have been all over the place. Remember, that curved screens isn't cheap.

There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.

Joezhang said:
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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Yep, I agree. £400-£450 band is really buyable.
We don't know how BB places this phone on the market. Premium Business Device or Hi-End Consumer Phone ? Neither both, It won't be cheeper than S6 or Note 5 because build quality looks good and and additional hardware always cost more.

Joezhang said:
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.

Zer0.exe said:
assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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At that kind of price Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market really. If they want to shift units they're going to have to keep the price low when going up against other Android handsets.

I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?

HyperM3 said:
I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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That's a good question. I've heard absolutely nothing about how it charges. We don't even know if it has fast charging either. Hopefully it has both.

Does it has type c USB?

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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All the leaks have shown a normal angular looking micro USB port.

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.

Lagamorph said:
I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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One plus two.
Plus a number of less known phone companies (Xiaomi, LeTV, etc)
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I had a series of BB for 10 years. I miss the keyboard. I will have to try one of these and if they are close to the discussed price range will buy one. It looks like a large phone, however.

Sooo new spec sheets list the front cam as only 2 MP?? Is this an error or was the 5 MP rumor too good to be true? Not a deal breaker, but man, will THAT be disappointing. Awesome 18 MP Schneider Kreuznach lens on the back and... a camera from like 2005 on the front.

It's officially time, guys! Pre orders are LIVE!
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html
$699 for the U.S. version. The front cam is 2 MP, but has a f/2.9" aperture with 1.75 micron pixels. I'm no camera buff, but that sounds good? Also, NFC confirmed, Fast charging confirmed, wireless charging confirmed... No compromises aside from the battery being non removable. Releases November 6. Still no word on whether the carriers will sell them directly.

I have no idea why they would remove wireless charging on all the models except for the US, as the specs stand. They did spend the money to test them in the lab, then last minute pull it all out?

kakat08 said:
That phone is elegant but I'm worried about the Slide keyboard thing, if it uses flex cable it will wear anytime. One thing, it doesn't have gyro sensor.
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The mechanism is solid apparently.
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Just became eligible for device upgrade.. Love my A7, but the S8 is so tempting!

Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?

tele_jas said:
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.

TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.

awsomjgp said:
I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.

TPMJB said:
What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money

TPMJB said:
What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee

TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?

TPMJB said:
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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awsomjgp said:
Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything

LeKeiser said:
but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.

tele_jas said:
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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ChazzMatt said:
I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...

What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.

freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...

freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.

LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s

TPMJB said:
Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.

TPMJB said:
Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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ChazzMatt said:
There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.