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** Go back from ROM 3.14 to 2.13 WITHOUT problems? **

Hi all
currently on ROM 2.13 / radio 2.10
tempted to try the unofficial ROM 3.14 / radio 2.14
If i flash and need to go back, can i rollback 3.14 to 2.13 without having to
task29/HSPL etc ?
thx
z

zmoboss said:
Hi all
currently on ROM 2.13 / radio 2.10
tempted to try the unofficial ROM 3.14 / radio 2.14
If i flash and need to go back, can i rollback 3.14 to 2.13 without having to
task29/HSPL etc ?
thx
z
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I'm not sure that HSPL3 works with 3.14, so when I wanted to flash AthineOS v14. I went back to T-Mobile's site and grabbed the official ROM there. I was able to "downgrade" with no issues.
We always recommend a Task 29 when flashing a ROM, whether it's "official" or "cooked". Think of it as reformatting your hard drive before installing a new operating system. Spare bits can be left over after a new ROM is installed over an older one. These will manifest in strange fashions, causing issues that can't be duplicated by a twin phone running the same system.
So yes, you can downgrade if you want, without HSPL or Task 29. Whether you want to or not is up to you.

Yes you can indeed go straight back to 2.13 from 3.14. The leaked 3.14 does not overwrite HardSPL, so you can just straight up flash back to the official 2.13 update like normal.

ashasaur said:
Yes you can indeed go straight back to 2.13 from 3.14. The leaked 3.14 does not overwrite HardSPL, so you can just straight up flash back to the official 2.13 update like normal.
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Just for clarification: Any stock (official or leaked) ROM will overwrite your HSPL if you flash it via microSD. It will not do so if you flash via USB.
I would like to apologize for my first reply to this thread for implying that the HSPL would be overwritten for ANY type of flash and thanks to ashasaur for pointing out my mistake.

I have TMOUS HD2 - stock 2.13 ROM and have not hard-SPLed it yet. So everything is stock.
If I install the 3.14 ROM, would I still be hardSPL it in future if required?

Snarksneeze said:
Just for clarification: Any stock (official or leaked) ROM will overwrite your HSPL if you flash it via microSD. It will not do so if you flash via USB.
I would like to apologize for my first reply to this thread for implying that the HSPL would be overwritten for ANY type of flash and thanks to ashasaur for pointing out my mistake.
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....good question. I've never flashed flashed a rom via SDcard. You should try flashing from 3.14 to 3.13 and see if it removes hardspl. The worse that could happen is it go back to stock spl and just remove it via the hspl3 package.
see_u_then said:
I have TMOUS HD2 - stock 2.13 ROM and have not hard-SPLed it yet. So everything is stock.
If I install the 3.14 ROM, would I still be hardSPL it in future if required?
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If you flash from 3.13 to 3.14 or from 3.14 to 3.13 the hardspl will still be kept if flashed is done with a USB cord. I'm not sure if hspl will still be installed if done via sdcard, because I've done any flashing via SDcard. I play it safe and do everything from the USB cord and have had ZERO problem.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

im using the 3.14 right now and the battery life is outstanding. 24 hours an d no issues yet, full 3G in fort worth all day.
Also everytime i have done any flashing, it was done through RUU and not one single issue yet. "crosses fingers"

[Q] Help: can't unlock after official upgrading

My phone has this issue after i upgrade to the official Rom 3.14.531.1.
It just can't unlock anymore. Maybe if i try to slide 100 times, it will respond once.
Any one has the same issue?
The phone set up is like this:
OS: 5.2.21913
Manila version:
2.5.20181424.0
thanks

nope. i never had that issue when i upgraded to the official rom 3.14. maybe its a program that you install thats causing it to not respond. another question: What exactly are you trying to slide the stock manila slide to unlock or S2US?

bet you left hspl installed?

samsamuel said:
bet you left hspl installed?
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Mine is HSPL and it's fine. Why would that cause a problem? I thought once you were HSPL that you can flash any rom and it will leave your firmware and HSPL in tact?

the 3.14 roms have issues when the spl isn't 3.03. At least they do on the regular hd2/3.14 roms. sluggish phone, freezing. ALso the regular hd2 shows only 50 meg free ram, ,

samsamuel said:
the 3.14 roms have issues when the spl isn't 3.03. At least they do on the regular hd2/3.14 roms. sluggish phone, freezing. ALso the regular hd2 shows only 50 meg free ram, ,
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So you are saying if someone is on the original HSPL that they might have issues, but if they were on HSPL3, it's fine? What about running HSPL3 after installing 3.14 with a stock SPL?

HK Stock ROM UPGRADE 3.14.831.3

Hi All,
I just browsed HTC Website and I found the ROM UPGRADE version 3.14.831.3 for HK HD2. It is dated today (2 Nov 2010).
You may want to check this link:
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=1052
Cheers....

Mirror download links.
Thanks for communicate us the presence of the new Stock Rom!
Here I have made some download links.
Hong Kong (HKSCL_WWE): 3.14.831.3

INFO
Manila : 2.5.20161330.0
Rom Date : 10/01/10
RAM size : 448 MB
Storage Size : 160.80 MB
SPL-3.03.0000 GoldCard (Thank's to mskip)

kurt-willems said:
Thanks for communicate us the presence of the new Stock Rom!
Here I have made some download links.
Hong Kong (HKSCL_WWE): 3.14.831.3
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My Norton (NIS 2011) reported it and deleted.
FYI, it didn't do the same with other 3.14 ROMs i have.

[ROM] - Official HTC WWE (hong kong english) Released
New release up today for chinese - WWE
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=1052&news_id=793
Sorry guys. Didn't see this thread had been started. Thanks mods for moving my thread to this one.

rselva_kr said:
My Norton (NIS 2011) reported it and deleted.
FYI, it didn't do the same with other 3.14 ROMs i have.
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I also use NIS 2011. I dont have that kind of problem.
I downloaded but I havent flashed it becoz I am affraid that I might not be able to flash any custom rom any more..
Cheers

Thanks for prompt info, however upon keying in my HD2 serial no, it says the software is not suitable for my mobile. Would you suggest I should still try with other links available and upgrade it (for Singapore). Many thanks.

yclam said:
Thanks for prompt info, however upon keying in my HD2 serial no, it says the software is not suitable for my mobile. Would you suggest I should still try with other links available and upgrade it (for Singapore). Many thanks.
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Yes you should download from the Singapore page as the ROM at the HK site is for CHT whereas Singapore is either CHS or WWE.

I've have been running the HK 1.72.831.1 ROM for ages, then i decided to flash to this ROM, been using it for the last week, and for my HD2, this ROM is a pile of sh*t
issue's i've dicsovered so far
1. issues with launching video from album view, issues range from no video playback, to radio buttons disappear at bottom of screen....never had these issue wth 1.72.831.1 when playing the same videos
2. consumes lots of RAM ( 80-90 % ), compared to 1.72 ( 40-70ish% ), so much so that applications will fail, intermittant usage of opera for example.
It's a pitty, cause overall this ROM is much more responsive, and the radio seems more responsive too ( eg enable/disable wifi etc... )
Looks like i'll be rolling back to 1.72.831.1

bigdonk said:
I've have been running the HK 1.72.831.1 ROM for ages, then i decided to flash to this ROM, been using it for the last week, and for my HD2, this ROM is a pile of sh*t
issue's i've dicsovered so far
1. issues with launching video from album view, issues range from no video playback, to radio buttons disappear at bottom of screen....never had these issue wth 1.72.831.1 when playing the same videos
2. consumes lots of RAM ( 80-90 % ), compared to 1.72 ( 40-70ish% ), so much so that applications will fail, intermittant usage of opera for example.
It's a pitty, cause overall this ROM is much more responsive, and the radio seems more responsive too ( eg enable/disable wifi etc... )
Looks like i'll be rolling back to 1.72.831.1
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Sir like mention almost everywhere; Stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL!
You need to remove HSPL before installing stock ROM 3.14! If you don't do it the above mentioned problems are normal!

kurt-willems said:
Sir like mention almost everywhere; Stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL!
You need to remove HSPL before installing stock ROM 3.14! If you don't do it the above mentioned problems are normal!
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Hi,
I just wanna share my experience.I just flashed the Stock ROM after many times consideration. I felt that no increase in term of speed [I used to flash Energy as a benchmark of ROM speed ] I mean it was slower than any cooked ROM. So I decided to go back to Cooked ROM. Now, I am using Carnage HD v.4.2 which is faster than the stock ROM.
In flashing the stock ROM, I had to remove HSPL2 by way of running HSPL2 from my PC (Win XP Pro SP3) and choose SPL 1.66. I succeeded, then I flashed the stock ROM also from my PC.
In flashing back to Cooked ROM, I use SSPL. First attempt, my PC got crashed (BSOD), I wasnt sure the reason of which. The second attempt, I succeeded.
Now I have SPL 3.03 in my HD2. I read that few users reported that they can downgrade the SPL. I am not sure whether it is safe. I need time to think about it.
Cheers....

silverwind said:
Hi,
I just wanna share my experience.I just flashed the Stock ROM after many times consideration. I felt that no increase in term of speed [I used to flash Energy as a benchmark of ROM speed ] I mean it was slower than any cooked ROM. So I decided to go back to Cooked ROM. Now, I am using Carnage HD v.4.2 which is faster than the stock ROM.
In flashing the stock ROM, I had to remove HSPL2 by way of running HSPL2 from my PC (Win XP Pro SP3) and choose SPL 1.66. I succeeded, then I flashed the stock ROM also from my PC.
In flashing back to Cooked ROM, I use SSPL. First attempt, my PC got crashed (BSOD), I wasnt sure the reason of which. The second attempt, I succeeded.
Now I have SPL 3.03 in my HD2. I read that few users reported that they can downgrade the SPL. I am not sure whether it is safe. I need time to think about it.
Cheers....
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You can downgrade your spl version from 3.03 by flashing a older stock Rom.

Rom for south africa
silverwind said:
Hi All,
I need help for a Rom for South Africa, if any one can help please let me know
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kurt-willems said:
You can downgrade your spl version from 3.03 by flashing a older stock Rom.
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Thanks for the info . How did you do it, by SD card or active sync method?
Cheers...

After I flashed this ROM to my phone, upgrading it to any Artemis ROM via SSPL would load HSPL 1.42 instead of 3.03. Also, I've had problems with Artemis ROMS after flashing to this stock ROM, such as stuck on HTC boot screen or soft reset becoming hard resets. Could it be a problem with the HSPL? How do I make sure that it loads HSPL 3.03 when flashing Artemis instead of 1.42?

CyberSniper said:
After I flashed this ROM to my phone, upgrading it to any Artemis ROM via SSPL would load HSPL 1.42 instead of 3.03. Also, I've had problems with Artemis ROMS after flashing to this stock ROM, such as stuck on HTC boot screen or soft reset becoming hard resets. Could it be a problem with the HSPL? How do I make sure that it loads HSPL 3.03 when flashing Artemis instead of 1.42?
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Sir if you take some time to read the installation instructions on the Artemis Rom thread you will see that you need to remove HSPL if you used 3.14 stock Rom based Rom's.
HSPL isn't compatible with stock ROM 3.14!!

lizerd said:
silverwind said:
Hi All,
I need help for a Rom for South Africa, if any one can help please let me know
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With help are you looking for sir?
You mention to need some help; but not what your problem is. (not easy to help in this case)
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silverwind said:
Thanks for the info . How did you do it, by SD card or active sync method?
Cheers...
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Both are possible (only be sure you flash the right stock Rom (related to your aria/branded/unbranded device)

kurt-willems said:
Both are possible (only be sure you flash the right stock Rom (related to your aria/branded/unbranded device)
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You are right, Sir.. Thanks for the info
I tried both ways and it worked.
Now I am using back HSPL, because using SSPL method I cant do task 29
cheers

kurt-willems said:
Sir if you take some time to read the installation instructions on the Artemis Rom thread you will see that you need to remove HSPL if you used 3.14 stock Rom based Rom's.
HSPL isn't compatible with stock ROM 3.14!!
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I have never installed HSPL. All I have had are stock Roms. How do I remove HSPL? I've already done a stock rom reflash.

[Pls HELP] Android keeps crashing

I have now tried a few versions of Android and each crash when I do something like update Weather or download APPs. so this would seem to be a problem around the radio or base WinMob version.
I have Artemis 45 so my Radio had to be at highest stock release indeed it is 2.15.50.14 - which seems to be acceptable for most android releases.
Can anyone suggest what could be causing the crashes and hopefully a solution?
I really want to see Android stable before I make the complete switch.
Thanks in advance

TonyOCL said:
I have now tried a few versions of Android and each crash when I do something like update Weather or download APPs. so this would seem to be a problem around the radio or base WinMob version.
I have Artemis 45 so my Radio had to be at highest stock release indeed it is 2.15.50.14 - which seems to be acceptable for most android releases.
Can anyone suggest what could be causing the crashes and hopefully a solution?
I really want to see Android stable before I make the complete switch.
Thanks in advance
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Hello. I really felt the same, even running from windows. Test
2_12_50_02_2 the radio. Good luck.

selagidar said:
Hello. I really felt the same, even running from windows. Test
2_12_50_02_2 the radio. Good luck.
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Reading the radio thread it implies that I have to use hspl but I believe that isn't compatible with 3.14 rom. Is this correct?

TonyOCL said:
Reading the radio thread it implies that I have to use hspl but I believe that isn't compatible with 3.14 rom. Is this correct?
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No, is fully supported. I am currently using:
ROM: Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Dec.13. (Based on ROM 3.14)
RADIO: 2_12_50_02_2
No more crashes!

selagidar said:
No, is fully supported. I am currently using:
ROM: Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Dec.13. (Based on ROM 3.14)
RADIO: 2_12_50_02_2
No more crashes!
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I am having problems doing this.
As my Rom is now SPL 3.03.0000 then I can't load HSPL as it is not one of the 1.x or 2.x in the list.
I can't even load the Energy rom as its requires HSPL :-(
any suggestions?

TonyOCL said:
I am having problems doing this.
As my Rom is now SPL 3.03.0000 then I can't load HSPL as it is not one of the 1.x or 2.x in the list.
I can't even load the Energy rom as its requires HSPL :-(
any suggestions?
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I have finally got the energy rom loaded but the radio I can't down grade. I have tried CustomRUU SSPL etc.
Can anyone tell me how I can downgrade the radio wen I have SPL 3.03?
Thanks

TonyOCL said:
I have finally got the energy rom loaded but the radio I can't down grade. I have tried CustomRUU SSPL etc.
Can anyone tell me how I can downgrade the radio wen I have SPL 3.03?
Thanks
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Why do you want to downgrade the radio? Any radio that is 2.08 or greater (with a .50, not .51) is fine for Android, so you should never need to downgrade it.

hi i have the same radio i did my update with tmobile hspl then i flash the energy rom last reles. then froyostone then im using the nexus one dev. for android2.2.1 everything works and is fast all apps work and phone calls mounting my sd card and all

johncmolyneux said:
Why do you want to downgrade the radio? Any radio that is 2.08 or greater (with a .50, not .51) is fine for Android, so you should never need to downgrade it.
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As I mentioned with radio 2.15.50.14 I get crashes in Android when doing thinks like updating the weather or downloading apps.
2_12_50_02_2 - is recommended by a lot of folks as fully stable with android builds. also it isn't just one version of the android builds as I have tried quite a few.
Thanks
Tony

TonyOCL said:
As I mentioned with radio 2.15.50.14 I get crashes in Android when doing thinks like updating the weather or downloading apps.
2_12_50_02_2 - is recommended by a lot of folks as fully stable with android builds. also it isn't just one version of the android builds as I have tried quite a few.
Thanks
Tony
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I still am having the same problem.
Today I did
1) did a Task29
2) reinstalled Energy rom
3) reformatted the SD card and put the content back
4) started Android. but it crashed on doing a download
The radio I am runnign is 2_12_50_02_2 which seems to work for others.
Am I missing anything?

TonyOCL said:
I still am having the same problem.
Today I did
1) did a Task29
2) reinstalled Energy rom
3) reformatted the SD card and put the content back
4) started Android. but it crashed on doing a download
The radio I am runnign is 2_12_50_02_2 which seems to work for others.
Am I missing anything?
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Please can anyone suggest something else to try?

[Q] Default ROM for HD2

Hi, I have been using Android basically since day one when I got this phone. I have been experiencing random restarts lately and think it could be a hardware issue. I already tried different Android ROMS and also tried using it from a clean state (no extra apps installed)...so it comes down to possible hardware/motherboard issue. I want to send it back to HTC for a replacement.
I ran HSPL3 and it's back to 2.10.0000 SPL now. I found an update for the T-Mobile US (1024) stock rom (3.14.531). I restored it back and everything looks ok now. The only thing I'm worried about is the radio version. I remember putting 2.15.50.14 on it and still see it. From what I see here, the radio should be 2.14.50.04 for this latest update.
My main question (just FYI for my knowledge) is shouldn't restoring the T-Mobile software restore the radio version also? It looks like I'll just have to flash the radio back myself.
The original specs I had were:
R 2.10.50.26
G 15.39.50.07U
D 2.13.90693 8G
I guess I don't need to worry about the 2nd and 3rd one right? Forgot exactly what they meant (read it somewhere) but the radio is what worries me.
Thanks.

No the radio will not change by replacing the rom, you need to choose the radio of your choice and flash it to the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787

So should I flash the original radio back (2.10.50.26)? I read in one of the posts here that for the 3.14.531 ROM, it should have the 2.14.50.04 radio.
Haven't ran into any random restarts yet after I restored it back to the Windows Mobile ROM. Might have to go back to square one if it doesn't happen in Windows but only in Android.
Thanks.

You should flash Radio 2.15.50.14 and HSPL2.08 for your phone,in order to run android.Since,you have flashed your stock ROM,i think its best you start fresh from the beginning.Start with HSPL,then radio. Have you tried both SD and NAND builds? and did you use MAGLDR?. If you still experience boot cycles, you might want to try TASK 29. If you are launching Android from WM, you should want to flash a custom WM ROM that works well with Android.

gk17 said:
Hi, I have been using Android basically since day one when I got this phone. I have been experiencing random restarts lately and think it could be a hardware issue. I already tried different Android ROMS and also tried using it from a clean state (no extra apps installed)...so it comes down to possible hardware/motherboard issue. I want to send it back to HTC for a replacement.
I ran HSPL3 and it's back to 2.10.0000 SPL now. I found an update for the T-Mobile US (1024) stock rom (3.14.531). I restored it back and everything looks ok now. The only thing I'm worried about is the radio version. I remember putting 2.15.50.14 on it and still see it. From what I see here, the radio should be 2.14.50.04 for this latest update.
My main question (just FYI for my knowledge) is shouldn't restoring the T-Mobile software restore the radio version also? It looks like I'll just have to flash the radio back myself.
The original specs I had were:
R 2.10.50.26
G 15.39.50.07U
D 2.13.90693 8G
I guess I don't need to worry about the 2nd and 3rd one right? Forgot exactly what they meant (read it somewhere) but the radio is what worries me.
Thanks.
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Yes it sounds like you may have a hardware issue seeing as you have tried different Android NAND ROMs.
If you still see the 2.15.50.14 radio then it is still installed on your HD2. The question though is did the radio version with the stock ROM get upgraded to the 2.15.50.14 version from the 2.14.50.04 version.
To answer your question yes the radio version does get flashed when you flash a official stock ROM via RUU. The radio version that the ROM contains is the version that gets flased.
Thanks for providing the original specs on your HD2 as this lets people know what your original stock ROM was and the original radio and base band versions wee too. The R is the radio version, the G is your Base Band version, and the D is the ROM version.
johnerz said:
No the radio will not change by replacing the rom, you need to choose the radio of your choice and flash it to the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
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Not true, if you flash a official stock Windows Mobile ROM via RUU (USB) it will change the radio version to the radio version included in the ROM. This is why TMOUS HD2s get bricked when you flash them with a international ROM. The radio versions in the international ROMs are not compatible with the TMOUS HD2.
gk17 said:
So should I flash the original radio back (2.10.50.26)? I read in one of the posts here that for the 3.14.531 ROM, it should have the 2.14.50.04 radio.
Haven't ran into any random restarts yet after I restored it back to the Windows Mobile ROM. Might have to go back to square one if it doesn't happen in Windows but only in Android.
Thanks.
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I would flash the radio version that is known to be the radio version included with the stock ROM. HTC will be looking for two things basically. One if the radio, base band, and ROM versions all match up, and two if you have SPL on the device and not HSPL. If either of these do not pass HTC will deny your claim.
kawshigan said:
You should flash Radio 2.15.50.14 and HSPL2.08 for your phone,in order to run android.Since,you have flashed your stock ROM,i think its best you start fresh from the beginning.Start with HSPL,then radio. Have you tried both SD and NAND builds? and did you use MAGLDR?. If you still experience boot cycles, you might want to try TASK 29. If you are launching Android from WM, you should want to flash a custom WM ROM that works well with Android.
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I agree with member kawshigan, you should check and see if HSPL was removed and replaced with SPL by the stock ROM flash, check the bootloader screen to see if you still have it. If you did it via RUU than it did not. But if you flashed it via SD card then it did remove HSPL. Either way you have to have HSPL flashed to you HD2 to flash MAGLDR or cLK, you also have to have it to run a TASK 29. Once you are sure you have HSPL on your HD2 you I suggest youi run a Task 29, next flash the 2.15.50.14 radio, then flash MAGLDR or cLK (wich ever one you want to use), then flash Clockwork Mod Recovery, and then use Clockwork Mod Recovery to flash your ROM via .zip file on your SD card.