[Q] HTC HD2 wont connect to hidden network - Networking

I have the SSID, its a WPA2/AES network with a password. the acess point isnt set to broadcast and when I try to connect with it using my HD2 the HD2 just wont connect. once its set to broadcast the HD2 will connect to it no problem.
I did notice that I have to set the phone as a WPA2-PSK for it to let me place the password on the phone, not sure if this is an issue or not.
what could be causing this?
My device info shows:
Model: T-Mobile_LEO
Rom ver: 2.13.531.1

can anybody help?

ROM version is now 3.14.531.1, and its now 2011, with no replies on this thread. still doesnt connect to a hidden network.

try connecting with android
winmo doesnt even SEE the 802.11x-mschapv2 network at my uni , its a dinosaur

not sure why I had to do it this way on a regular computer type connection instead of phone. I have yet for a connection to be made unless it has been made one time not hidden.
Also try the TKIP instead of AES etc.

also. when you are setting up the connection. the last section before finish? is the greay box checked up greyed out so you cannot change the option or uncheck the box?

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XDA2ii can't connect to WIFI at home

Hi!
Before I start tese are my current system info:
XDA2ii (O2) - UK
ROM version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM date:24/12/2004
Radio ver: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.39
ExtROM version: 1.10.124 WWE
OS: Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (build 14235.2.0.0)
I am trying to connect to my home WIFI network but I can't seem to connect. It is indeed picking up the server (name appears) in list but just stops at connection to network. It can't seem to get any connection at all. My wireless router (Linksys WRT54G) can't seem to detect it as well.
I have tried connection to WIFI at an airport and it seems to work but not at home. I have set my Linksys to Mixed mode (B and G) but still can't get it to work.
Any advice?
Thank you!!!
XDA IIi (or 2i) and 3COM WAP
Hi.
Got the exact same (everything) XDA IIi model (also O2/UK). I'm also having problems with WLAN/WIFI connectivity both at work and home. Both cases it's a 3COM OfficeConnect WAP (office one not setup by me). I thought I validated that the XDA seems to be OK by being able to connect to a neighbours WAP (some BT-Voyager thing) with no apparent problems. And so was thinking that the problem is with the 3COM WAP. However, your post raises doubts on my conclusion ...
The search goes on ...
Re: XDA IIi (or 2i) and 3COM WAP
hi
My case is even worse, it can not detect any wifi signal at any of the hotspot in my city. Go to wireless Lan Manager, under WLAN button (red status) there is alwayls a sentence: "no connection in use". Clicking to it, the device seem to search but found nothing.
Try softreset, hardreset but the problem remains.
In addition, I try to turn off the phone (turn on flight mode) then it don't allow to turn on bluetooth and wifi too.
Maybe it is due to hardware error.
Really disappoint with O2 UK
Regards
Tuan
WiFi connection problems with XDA2i
I have exactly the same O2 xda2i build as Johnnyboy, and precisely the same problem with WiFi as Blackwolf and Johnnyboy. I have a netgear WiFi access point at home, and have disabled the attach restriction and removed WEP. However, although the XDA can see the network name, it cannot connect to the network (just displays connecting...) nor does it show anything on the signal bar. Needless to say, it does not display SSID, Tx rate, Channel, IP address or any information from the network.
I have bought this device specifically for wifi access, and it is somewhat disappointing. Anyone have any idea how this can be fixed? (if at all :? )
XDA Wi-Fi Successful Connection!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
Finally cracked it! As I never had any problems with my Netgear MR814 wireless router, I assumed the issue was with the XDA2i. Instead, a router firmware upgrade did the trick! Should have thought of that earlier.
Cheers, S.
When i first got my XDA 2i home from the shop the first thing it tried was the wireless lan, and the same thing happend to me also..... everything fine in the router but still unable to connect the xda.
anyway after few hours of going over every single setting time and time again , it finally worked !!
i left the Wlan enabled and after a period of a few minutes it connected to my network.
So i think the XDA 2i is quite tempremental with Wlan, as i know my settings were correct.
having said that, i have had no problems with Wlan t all since then, it will now even connect to other Wlan hotspots with no problems whatsoever.
The only problem i have now is recieving a decent O2 Cellphone signal i my area
Well I have a XDA IIi and it connects fine and allways has to Citi Hotspots, TMO hotspots and my own Linksys WRT54GS. Netgear is the biggest piece of crap ever sold. If you have one I suggest you soak it in gas and burn it.
I had a problem with my XDA IIi connecting to a home Wi-Fi network with a Linksys WRT54GC router: a signal showed in the Wireless LAN Manager, including an IP address, but the WI-Fi icon at the top of the Today screen had no connection bars. After days of this I went to the Linksys settings for an unrelated reason and disabled Wireless SSID Broadcast. Inexplicably this appeared to cure the WiFi problem with the XDA IIi, and I can now connect with ease.
Ok, I might as well add my question to this thread, as it's relevant.
I have an O2 UK XDA2i, and I've also experienced similar problems connecting the wifi and managing to get it to work properly.
I'm at Uni in Birmingham, and at some of my faculties there's wifi for students and staff to use - they give the broadcast SSID UCEOpenAccess, and you use your system logon (in my case STUDENTS\F05310011 and my password (secret ).
I have these details set in the LEAP tab of my wireless lan config (in the WLAN settings) - I have an entry named UCEOpenAccess, and I have my username and password (and domain) set correctly, and the auth type set to Open System (as opposed to EAP, doesn't seem to make any difference whatever I set it to)...
... I just can't connect to any wifi network! I can't even _SEE_ the wifi network, and I know it's there, I can pick up other wifi networks and detect them using Wifi Graph and Hitchiker. I just, bizarrely, can't see the one wifi network I'm trying to connect to.
It's incredibly frustrating. I have my network adapter set to connect to Work (as I've seen advised on these forums), and my IP is assigned via DHCP (they use a weird class b subnet for their network), and the proxy to connect to the Internet is also setup correctly in my Network (This network connects to the Internet checked, This network uses a proxy to connect to the Internet, and proxy is specified in the box), and as the proxy is a SOCKS 5 authenticating proxy, all the relevant details and username+password are in place in the Advanced settings.
Still doesn't work!
Is it due to my original (and decrepit, from the looks of things) firmware and software versions? I'm running original radio, is that a problem maybe? I've scouted about quickly for updates from O2 for my XDA, but I don't want to install a Japanese update as I don't reallllly want to have to read Japanese (and I can't, etc) - I don't want to make a brick out of this brand new phone, but the resources for total xda newbs is somewhat lacking. Can someone just poke me in the right direction with a stick?
Cheers all.

Having Problems Connecting with Wifi!

I have a MDA PRO
Rom Version: 1.12.42 wwe
Radio : 1.08.00
Protocol: 42.41.P8
Ext rom: 1.12.126 WWE
What I want to do: I am trying to connect to the internet using pocket internet explorer using my wifi network at home and not GPRS.
The problem: I go to 'Settings' >>"connections" tab >> 'Network Cards'>> "wirelss" tab
It displays my wifi connection and it says "available" so I {tap and hold} and select 'connect'. It then states that it is 'connecting' but it doesnt connect and reverts back to saying that my network is "available'.
What am I doing wrong? Do I have to set up something on my pc? Any additional settings on my Universal that i should initiate?
I tried searching the forum with no luck in finding someone with the same problem. Is there a thread with a guide that can help me out. Thanks for your time.
soft reset the phone
then no need to go into settings
on today screen (main screen) touch the "G" at the top
it will ask you if you want to activate wifi
select
it should connect automatically
I have exactly the same problem with my M5000.
Can anyone help?
Are your home wireless networks protected (eg WEP or WPA) ? If so - and I would hope so - then are you using the applicable WEP/WPA settings and key when trying to connect ?
Worth also trying to set the IP address manually on the PDA, see if this helps ?
For me, the first thing to do when experiencing wireless probs is to temporarily disable any encryption and see if it works then.....and then re-enable, carefully inputting key etc.
Are your home wireless networks protected (eg WEP or WPA) ? If so - and I would hope so - then are you using the applicable WEP/WPA settings and key when trying to connect ?
Worth also trying to set the IP address manually on the PDA, see if this helps ?
For me, the first thing to do when experiencing wireless probs is to temporarily disable any encryption and see if it works then.....and then re-enable, carefully inputting key etc.
Are your home wireless networks protected (eg WEP or WPA) ? If so - and I would hope so - then are you using the applicable WEP/WPA settings and key when trying to connect ?
Worth also trying to set the IP address manually on the PDA, see if this helps ?
For me, the first thing to do when experiencing wireless probs is to temporarily disable any encryption and see if it works then.....and then re-enable, carefully inputting key etc.
Are your home wireless networks protected (eg WEP or WPA) ? If so - and I would hope so - then are you using the applicable WEP/WPA settings and key when trying to connect ?
Worth also trying to set the IP address manually on the PDA, see if this helps ?
For me, the first thing to do when experiencing wireless probs is to temporarily disable any encryption and see if it works then.....and then re-enable, carefully inputting key etc.
What happened there ! :roll:
On the Blue Angel, it was simple - you just set up a new connection, enter the PSK, connect and off you go!
On the Universal, however, I'm having no joy. I've set up the WEP and PSK stuff and the PDA can connect to the network, but when I try and open IE it opens up GPRS. Also, PC Anywhere only works via USB - again, it won't connect via WiFi. I'm sure it's just a case of adjusting some settings but I don't know which ones!
Wifi Connection Problems
Hi I'm experiencing exactly the same problems trying to connect.
I have a Wanadoo Livebox and my xda exec.
I've tried with my connection both unsecured and with 128bit wep encryption using the correct wep key....I still get connecting, followed by available, repeated continuously?
I have the xda set to connect to "the internet" and the authentication to "open". Key index is 1.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Tim
Wifi Connection Problems
Hi, Just a bit more info...
Encryption is set to "wep"
Mac address is associated with the livebox.
802.1x is ticked to use IEEE 802.1x network access control.
EAP type is Smart cCard or Certificate
Thanks
Tim
Rom version 1.13.82 WWE
Rom date 11/30/05
Radio version 1.04.02
Protocol version 42.37.P8
ExtROM version 1.13.188 WWE
I just checked (with my Blue Angel) that the router and everything else is working and I'm happy to say it all is.
I set up the new connection on the BA from scratch - WPA-PSK enabled, nice long PSK, and I'm using TKIP. Network connects to: The Internet.
This allows me to remote up to the PC via PC Anywhere, and allows me to connect to the 'Net for free via the WiFi router.
When I duplicate the settings on the Universal, neither of the above works. What am I doing wrong?
Help!
You haven't got mac address filtering enabled on your router, and have forgotten to add your Universal's mac address to the list, have you?
Cheers,
Steve.
No, it's disabled.
hehe i had this problem tonight and was going to post up.
Has your router got MAC-control or anything on it? My SSID is not set to broadcast so I put the settings in manually.
I deleted the settings, and put them in manually again a few times, making sure I had the encryption stuff set correctly.
Eventually it connected and now seems to be working fine.
JAmes
Ad Hoc?
Ok, I've tried every possible combination possible and nothing is helping. So my next question to get around this problem>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Can I use my pc as a ad-hoc and us it as my gateway for my Universal?
I have a pc in the office down the hall with the actually wireless router, I have a pc in my room that is accessing the wireless router from the office.
Please let 'US' know if you have tried ad hoc or if you find the right settings to connect to the main wireless router.
Thank you
I am on my wifi network typing this, and my settings show 802.1x network access control not having a tick and network adapter connected to Work......on my iPaq hx4700 before, I used these same settings as they seemed to work well, although it ran WM2003SE not WM5.....
All this said, however, but I was lucky in that my MDA Pro connected to my wifi network at the first attempt - except not with as strong a signal as the iPaq had.....
Wifi Settings
Can anyone who has connected okay, let us have their full settings, so that we can try them?
Is your Router set 802.11g only?
You need to set the router to accept 802.11b and 802.11g.
If your router will only output at 54g, you could try the hack to switch the universal to 54g. I am yet to try this so I don't know if it works.
My MDA Pro connected straight out of the box once I set the ssid and encryption.
Hope this helps
Dave
I've been on the phone talking to 3rd line support at Orange.
Basically, the guy is totally flummoxed!
After trying to talk me through the setup from memory, it seems as though a whole menu of WiFi settings has disappeared from the phone - specifically, the ones that we need! This being the case, he's going to get hold of an M5000 tomorrow and will then bell me back so we can go through the whole process together, both of us using an M5000.
One thought that did occur to me was this: I've only just (like, 3 days ago!) upgraded to the M5000 and I've taken on some kind of free Internet access scheme with my tariff. Could it be that the settings for that (that are sent by Orange in a data SMS) have knackered the WiFi setup?
I'm considering a hard reset with a soft reset before the .CAB files install but will at least wait until tomorrow.
I'll keep you all posted....

SPV M3100 (TyTn). WiFi wont connect to my router.

I have a SPV M3100 (TyTn, I think) but I cant get it to connect using WiFi to my wireless router. I can go into 'Configure Wireless Networks' and tell it to connect to my router, all the settings are correct, but all it does is try to connect and fail, and no error message comes up.
Does anyone know how I could fix this problem?
Thanks,
Sebastian
it might help if you state what rom your are using and what protection the router is using? I know there are many threads discussing this issue with WM6 using WPA. Have you tried connecting with no encryption? If so can you connect.
Sorry, the ROM version is: 1.23.61.4, date: 7/13/06
It is running WM5 PocketPC. Encryption is WEP. No I havent tried no encryption. I will after when I get home.
Sebastian
OK, I've tried without encryption, and I've fiddled about with the settings but it still doesn't work.
Each time I tell it to connect it says 'Connecting' for about a second then says 'Unavailable' for a few seconds, then back to 'Available', untill I next tell it to connect.
Any suggestions?
thanks,
sebastian
if it use mac filtering the mac of the tytn need to be added to the lists of mac's the router wanna talk to
that's not the problem either, sorry
Couple of things (I'm running WM6 on my M3100, so WM5 is a bit of distant memory ) you could look at.....
First, does your router use DHCP to issue IP addresses? if not, you'll need to set the phone with a static IP. To do that, go to Start / Settings / Connections tab / Wi-Fi / Network adapters tab, make sure it says "connect to the internet" then tap the "802.11" network adapter, tap "use specific ip address", fill one in and "ok" your way back out.
Second, in Start / Settings / Connections tab / Wi-Fi / Wireless tab, tap and hold your "unavailable" wireless connection then choose Edit. Make sure the "connects to" box says Internet. Also, if your router doesn't broadcast its' SSID, (on WM6 at least) tick the box that says "this is a hidden network", then go next, next finish (making sure the authentication and encryption types match your router config!!).
Hope this helps,
Mark.
I have now been through every intricate detail within settings, and still to no avail. One (possibly) good thing did come out of it though - an error message.
I got it when going to create a new WiFi connection and clicking on the 802.1x tab, it says:
"Cannot log on to the wireless network. This network requires a personal certificate to positively identify you."
I made sure I inputted the network key correctly and all the encryption settings were right.
Please tell me that helps solve the problem! lol
btw, the router is a D-Link DSL-604+, just incase that helps anybody solve the problem.
sebastian
If you're getting certificate errors, it sounds as though you've ticked the setting in the phone's wireless config that says something like "IEEE 802.1x network access" and selected "smart card or certificate".
Go back in to the wireless config, tap and hold the "unavailable" network, then select Edit. Go through - next, next and the authentication is on the last page IIRC.....just untick the box, tap finish and you should be away!!
Cheers,
Mark.
It WORKS!!
I forgot to untick 'The network key is automatically provided' and tried to connect, and it now works
I'll just kiss goodbye to my battery life now
Thanks for everyone who has helped me.
Sebastian
My ATT Tilt wont connect to my D-Link Wireless N Router.. does the Tilt not work on N routers?

New Touch Diamond 2 Wifi Wont Connect

Hi Guys & Gals,
I have a brand new HTC Touch Diamond 2, on O2 network - this is an untouched device, all i have done is booted it up and sync'd it with my PC,
I have tried to connect the device to to wireless networks now with no luck.
1. My home connection - security enabled WPA-PSK password protected, The phone can see the network, i type in my network key - i also checked the password on my router setup. The little spinning circle comes up and try's to connect with no luck. It will then keep trying for as long as the wireless is on
2. Home connection again with no encription - again the same thing
3. Work connection WEP secured, type in the key, same thing again.
Has anyone encountered these sorts of problems before in the past - if so how do i fix it so i can connect wirelessly.
Cheers Guys
JdeRonde
Doubt if this is an issue with the phone more likely to be a setup of the wireless.
What router do you use?
Do you have MAC Filtering enabled?
Do you use your router as a DHCP server?
Are there any error messages displayed on the phone?
When it doesnt connect and you tap the notification area (top bar to the right of START) do you have any messages there?
jderonde said:
Hi Guys & Gals,
I have a brand new HTC Touch Diamond 2, on O2 network - this is an untouched device, all i have done is booted it up and sync'd it with my PC,
I have tried to connect the device to to wireless networks now with no luck.
1. My home connection - security enabled WPA-PSK password protected, The phone can see the network, i type in my network key - i also checked the password on my router setup. The little spinning circle comes up and try's to connect with no luck. It will then keep trying for as long as the wireless is on
2. Home connection again with no encription - again the same thing
3. Work connection WEP secured, type in the key, same thing again.
Has anyone encountered these sorts of problems before in the past - if so how do i fix it so i can connect wirelessly.
Cheers Guys
JdeRonde
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I too had problems with WIFI. My home work network was visible but it would immediately drop or not be able to connect. A few days later it started working flawlessly and I have no idea what changed.
I am sure you have tried a soft reset but just in case...
Tony
I have a NetGear DG(Some Number) v4 ADSL wireless router, which i have set up and works for all of my other devices (ie. Laptops, PS3). With a simple encription key.
I get no messages etc, all it sais is that its 'not connected' and there are no new notificatons
It then persists in trying to connect again and again, when it cant connect for a while, it then comes up with 'new network connections found' in the notificatins area.
I have switched the power mode to best performance with no luck.
I have tried on 2 different networks now. including with all encription off. WEP and WPA-PSK - This is driving me nutz cuz i love the phone, i just want to use it to browse the web without paying out the nose for it.
DHCP server is dynamic from my ISP.
I have contacted HTC now about the issue, but im going to feel so stupid if it turns out to be somthing simple like a setting on the phone somewhere.
But thanks for the reply
Have you checked you arn't using MAC filtering?
Log-in to your router and check under Wireless settings > Wireless Station Access List.
While you are on your wireless setting page check what Encryption your using for WPA-PSK? TKIP? (The wrong encryption chosen will cause you not to be able to connect)
Ok maybe telling you how to suck eggs but on your phone:
Settings > Communication > Wifi
Select Advanced at the bottom right.
Select Change Network
Click Add new...
Type in the name of your network (The SSID also found under wireless settings, Case sensitive)
Select Connects to: The Internet
Leave the other two boxes unticked.
Click next.
Select the correct Authentication - WPA-PSK is different to WPA2-PSK. You will probably be using WPA-PSK.
Select the correct Encryption (Propably TKIP)
And type in your Network Key
Click Next and Finish.
How does this fair and what are the results of checking info on wireless setting page?
Im at work at the moment trying to connect to the WEP connection,
This connection most deffinatly does not have mac filtering on it, just asked the network tech.
Okies.....
Changed the network key to.... Shared key and it works
so i am guessing that it must be somthing to do with my setup at home..
Cheers guys
Cool.
Just match up the Authentication / Encryption / SSID and Network Key from the router to your phone setup and you should be fine.
HTC TD2 Wifi issues
Hi
There's some discussion around the web about this problem of encrypted wifi connectivity: a few things to note
1] the TD2 is _very_ sensitive to the power settings applied to the wifi chipset.
The default power saving settings are only likely to work if all other on-board devices - bluetooth, HSDPA, GPS [and maybe even the screen] are either off or in low power mode: the general recommendation seems to be that one adjusts the wifi device power to be "best performance" if one wants to guarantee connections.
2] several people have reported that both the wifi device [card] and the settings for the particular wifi lan [SSID] to which you are attempting to connect should both be configured for "Work" rather than "The Internet".
3] these secured/encrypted connection failures are not about the WiFi access point or router: I've personally tested with several different makes and models of Router and Access Point [3com, Cisco, Enterasys, Netgear, DLink, Belkin etc] - both on my own and on client networks where I have complete control of security, and have also methodically tested every single combination of TD2 setting for WEP and all variants of WPA. In each case my TD2 has failed to make a valid encrypted connection.
The same device will happily connect to "open" unencrypted access points and routers.
Other models of HTC device, such as the Tytyn II and Touch Pro work fine on the same access points and routers: so we can be pretty sure that this is specifically a TD2 issue.
Conversations with HTC's European Tech Support on this issue have not been helpful to date, but they HAVE pushed the issue further up the line, so there's a chance that we'll see a resolution.
Robert

WPA problem

Hi,
I have an HTC Elfin that has no problem connecting to a home network with WEP encryption. But at work, I cannot connect to the network with WPA-TKIP encryption. My phone just tries to connect for a few seconds and then the status of the access point goes back to "available". I've verified the network pass phrase, as it does work with my co-worker's netbook. What is the problem here?
BTW, I've been reading up on this problem and somebody mentioned the fix of turning on/off the wifi (turn on wifi, connect, turn off wifi and then on again), but it doesn't work for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327928
dtran707 said:
Hi,
I have an HTC Elfin that has no problem connecting to a home network with WEP encryption. But at work, I cannot connect to the network with WPA-TKIP encryption. My phone just tries to connect for a few seconds and then the status of the access point goes back to "available". I've verified the network pass phrase, as it does work with my co-worker's netbook. What is the problem here?
BTW, I've been reading up on this problem and somebody mentioned the fix of turning on/off the wifi (turn on wifi, connect, turn off wifi and then on again), but it doesn't work for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327928
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Try to set wifi to best performance instead of best battery first.
Often the problem is also caused by a combination of the router (brand/type) and a Windows based device/computer.
Some things you can try to get a working connection with WPA-PSK enabled:
1. Modify the registry:
\HKLM\Comm\EAP\Extension\25\ValidateServerCert=dword:00000000
2. Modify the network settings:
Settings > Connections (tab) > Wi-Fi > Network Adapters (Tab)
and select "NE2000 Compatible Ethernet Driver" (maybe you have to config a static ip-address).
Thanks for the suggestions. I did all those, except for the static IP since our network admin doesn't provide one. It still doesn't work. One thing I'd like to understand is that in my case, why does the WPA-PSK connection work for the standard Windows environment (laptop/netbook, desktop) but not Windows Mobile? What could be the difference?
I don´t know what ROM are you using, but if it is some of 23XXX Builds, disconnect first the Bluetooth and then connect the Wireless... Should work now...
My ROM is MK_872_05 WWE, from chota_shivaji. It uses WM6.5 CE OS 5.2.21872. Thanks for your suggestion. I will try it out on Monday when I get back to work.
I disconnected the Bluetooth connection and tried again to the WPA-PSK encrypted access point at work and it still doesn't work. Just yesterday at a relative's place, I was able to connect to his router with WPA security. I think there's something different with the one at work which does not work with Winmo devices.
at work do u just have a password or a user/password? are u using certificates?
At work I have a guest username and password that I can use to log in for the WIFI access point. The password changes every week, but I confirmed that I used the latest one. But I don't think there's a certificate needed since my co-worker is able to use his home netbook to log in without anything else except the same username and password.

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