Hi guys. First off; I'm getting a new phone next month and I'm looking to get a wp7 device, but which one?
I've narrowed down two options:
- Htc hd7, £30 p/m 500mb data, unlimited sms and 300mins (Orange network)
- Samsung omnia 7, £30 p/m 1gb data, 5000 sms, 500mins, free Skype calls (Three network)
I know it may seem the omnia is a much better deal, but the screen size and HTC hub are very attractive. So, could owners of both give me some ideas as to which I should take the plunge for?
Thanks in advance.
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I was using HTC hero with Orange but the reception for me is really bad (east London).....i can never talk more than 1 minute in my own home.
I recently bought the omnia 7 with T-mobile £35 per month 900 Min and 500 txt including
a flexible booster....i can now talk with ease in my own home.
The Omnia 7 is just beautiful compared to the HTC HD7 beacuse of the SUPER AMOLED screen.....but unfortunately Omnia 7 is only 8 gb but HTC HD7 is 16 gig
I'd go for quality....
I recently got the Onmia 7... very very very nice handset, its very quick it looks stunning and thank god isnt made by HTC.
The memory on the omnia is built into the phone with chips and not Micro SD, this has its pros and cons.
The pros are its very fast, games loader quicker..there are vids on youtube to show this.
The cons - cant upgrade size
The screen is really something to see, its Beautiful
HTC seem to be putting more effort into their android phones than the WP7, which is fair enough its a new product and possibly they dont believe it will sell much, android on the other is has a waiting list on the Desire of 6000 on Orange Uk network, so thats defo a seller they will back.
Ive had a few HTC devices over the last few years and they always seem to come short of being what you want (my personal opinon).
Also the camera on the Onmia is a 5MP and isnt the best but is ok as a happy snapper.. good when you need a quick pic. That being said I think the only handset that has a better one is the HTC Mozart with 8MP.. but if you want something that takes Professional Pics go buy a proper camera from Nikon or Olympus.
Hope this helps
I've had a play with the Omnia 7, and it's a good phone no doubt - the screen really pops, but I actually prefer the LCD on the HD7 for day to day - the Omnia is not realistic and too saturated.
The HD7 has a bigger screen, which if you use it for browsing etc is a big advantage. I found myself reconfiguring my router the other night using the wife's HD7 because she was using the laptop, and it was bloody brilliant I have to say - so easy to do, and definitely feel the extra screen size plays a big part here.
The HD7 is very well made - I've seen some reports to the contrary on here, but I can only imagine people have had bad luck because I can't fault the quality on the HD7.
There are early glitches with it - there always well be, but I'm sure there are with the Sammy as well. The manufacturers will release firmware updates to resolve this.
I would say what do you want the phone for - is storage space important, is size important (either big or small)? Make your decision on that basis as ultimately they are both pretty much the same hardware, and both are the same OS!
Oh, and HTC hub is more of a gimmick really, can't see the point in it overall since you now have the Metro UI instead. It looks nice, but can't see that you'd use it often as it's not the home screen.
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There are early glitches with it - there always well be, but I'm sure there are with the Sammy as well. The manufacturers will release firmware updates to resolve this.
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Agreed.. new OS's always have bugs.. the Samsung has them too, hope to be sorted soon by Microsoft.
Thanks for all of your responses, I think I'm going to go with the Samsung, I had a look at both devices in store today and the omnia 7 feels far better made and the games loaded much quicker; added to the beautiful screen is a winning combination. Thanks again for your responses I can't wait for my new phone!
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I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.
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I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.
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Thanks for the info, I'm not sure I've never been with three and the only other deal that comes close is with orange who I'm currently on and have shocking coverage in my area. My mate who lives down the road has an omnia 7 with three and the signal is great where mine is awful :S
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I've got the omnia 7 and the quality of the screen just blows me away every time i look at it
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I've had both HD7 and Omnia 7 and the Omnia has much better build quality.
Oh and I would recommend going with a different network to 3, I signed up with them as they were the only shop to have a Omnia 7 in, I am not impressed with them at all.
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I think it just depends more on where you live. I've been with 3 for the past 12 months and have found the network to be great.
Samsung Omnia 7
Somehow got the £35 month deal 900 min, 500 texts, unlimited landline calls, for £30 a month with t-mobile on a renewal i kept waiting for 3 months for Winmo7 deals. Wanted the HTC Pro 7 when it came out, But couldn't wait any longer
Along with comeradealexi everytime i look at the screen it's amazing. Glad i took it over the HTC. Bright, Crisp, Colour looks great.
I see jip about features such as settings that drain the bat are automaticly disabled like the camera features but i've come to think they work. the bat isn't the GREATEST i've noticed, so anything to keep it alive and kicking longer is A+ in my books.
The audio on the Samsung is amazing, and better than most bluray decoders i'm seeing because of the requirments of this thing.
And i'm glad they went NAND style storage *thumbs up Samsung*, Quicker, Snappy than SD and what you would expect as xbox's use the same style Nand storage but they only use 4gb in the new models, anyone who wants more GBs is just being silly, I'f you get a £500+ smartphone and can't afford Zune Pass while you have the phone then your should get another phone for music or your gonna moan. Simple as that.
Whatever you do, stay away from three. I think you can get an omnia 7 from t-mobile/orange instead.
t-mobile man, they always been good to me, plus we can use oranges signal now whatever that means to more coverage in 2G at least.
Right, found another deal which I'm defo going to go for.
-Free omnia 7
-T-mobile 24month
-600 mins
-500 sms
-Unlimited Data allowance
-Best of all £25 per month!
Thanks again for your responses.
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wwfc said:
Right, found another deal which I'm defo going to go for.
-Free omnia 7
-T-mobile 24month
-600 mins
-500 sms
-Unlimited Data allowance
-Best of all £25 per month!
Thanks again for your responses.
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Where did you find this deal?
Buymobilephones.net
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I think it just depends more on where you live. I've been with 3 for the past 12 months and have found the network to be great.
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It's not so much the coverage, it's...well, a story:
When I went to O2 to get a HD7 the guy came over right away and we went through the form filling out and he explained everything and it all went smoothly. My number was ported within a few hours and all was good. When I took the phone back they didn't even ask why I wanted to return it they just put it through the till and refunded me all the money. They were great.
Then I went to the 3 store next door, the guy came over soon enough and said he had 1 Omnia 7 left. When I said I would take it we went over to the computers and while we were entering the details in he kept trying to sell me various things, first a router, then 3 home broadband. That was the first thing to annoy me, O2 did not try to sell me anything extra, not even a case.
After all the forms were done I gave him the PAC code and he said my number would be ported within 24 hours, it took 3 days. And even after 3 days it still had call forwarding on for some reason, so I rang the support line and of course the call centres are in India. The support guy couldn't help at all he said just wait longer basically. In the end I had to do the special code thing to get rid of it.
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I'm pretty excited about this phone and after scouring the internet tonight, I can't find **** on new information. It looks like it was showed at the WP7 launch and that's it.
Dell's being very hush hush and that's just making me more and more impatient!
Anyway, are you buying a Venue Pro?
Yes! I have pre-ordered it on Clove. Been looking for a Micro SD card to go with the phone. I am hoping that it can take a class 4 Micro SD as I have my eye on a 32gb SD card to complement the phone.
Roll on 8th November. Hoping that it does not get pushed back but with all of these infromation leaks from Clove it is look more like a reality.
Will want to try the keyboard first. The screen is probably near perfect.
The Dell Venue Pro would have been perfect (for me) if it had:
1) HTC Locations (/ maps)
2) HTCSense.com functionality
3) Flash (as per the HTC Desire HD)
SingaporeAirlines said:
Will want to try the keyboard first. The screen is probably near perfect.
The Dell Venue Pro would have been perfect (for me) if it had:
1) HTC Locations (/ maps)
2) HTCSense.com functionality
3) Flash (as per the HTC Desire HD)
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Yeah, I'm also digging the HTC Hub stuff. I bet some XDA devs will be able to port it.
Flash is on the way in Jan 2011, last I heard.
I was planning to get the Dell Nov 8. However I read it won't be available stateside on Nov 8. So I'm looking into a plan B.
Plan C might be a Desire HD. I hope it doesn't co e to that.
I switch to tmobile for it. Pre ordered from Clove but now it seems there version won't support tmobile 3G so emailed to cancel guess I will have to wait. Had picked up a g2 for now but took it back and got the Vibrant. Great phone so I am content for a moment. I like the Vibrant even more than my Captivate I had. Thought they were the same but the tmobile tweaks are great
My guess is that there's just a single model coming out, and it's intended for TMOUS.
HOWEVER, in addition to their own oddball 3G frequencies, TMOUS smartphones generally support world standard (European/Asian) ones also. This enables TMOUS customers to use the phone overseas. Recent example: TMOUS HD2.
So, except for any SIM lock issues, the TMOUS Dell Venue is probably good to go on European networks, and that a "European" Venue Pro is probably a TMOUS one in disguise.
Again, all just a guess.
yes yes and yes
im getting it if it ever gets over seas to Sweden its the perfect phone for me! though it could have been slimmer XD
I plan on getting this if I'm not totally blown away with Gingerbread and/or the new myTouch HD, whichever comes first. This looks like a joy to use. The large 4.1" AMOLED and the portrait qwerty. Looks like they read my mind. Also it WILL have expandable memory, it's similar to the Samsung where you'd hard reset it and it'll recognize the sd card. The caveat is you'll lose all your data every time you change sd cards.
Only wish it supported HSPA+ and had the newer procs. But since I'm connected via wifi more often than not, it doesn't matter much to me, tho it would be nice. As far as the older chips, it could be powered by a hamster and wheel as long as it doesn't hiccup once, I'll be more than happy.
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I think it's being released late Nov. as opposed to Nov 8th.
EDIT: Anyone have past experience with Dell phones? How was the build quality / support? I've never owned anything other than HTC smart phones.
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I think it's being released late Nov. as opposed to Nov 8th.
EDIT: Anyone have past experience with Dell phones? How was the build quality / support? I've never owned anything other than HTC smart phones.
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This is the first dell phone . They've had handheld devices before (pocket PC's) but the build quality and overall product was terrible (they didn't put much effort into them). This phone is a completely different direction for Dell. Build quality is superb, it's worth every penny.
And unlocked versions are expected to be available in the UK as of November 8.
Battery Life
I am really thinking bout getting this over the HD7, but some reviews were saying that it may have 3 hours of talk time?!!!! If this is at all true with an AMOLED screen, then wow. I know Dell computer batteries suck, hope they used another company for their batteries. I know it isn't out yet, but what are your guys thoughts?
As far as build quality goes, if it feels great at the sotre, then I'll def buy it. I'm mostly looking forward to the stereo speakers and 4.1 inch screen. I've always felt that 4.3 inches might be a little too big for me.
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I am really thinking bout getting this over the HD7, but some reviews were saying that it may have 3 hours of talk time?!!!! If this is at all true with an AMOLED screen, then wow. I know Dell computer batteries suck, hope they used another company for their batteries. I know it isn't out yet, but what are your guys thoughts?
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No one has had the Venue Pro in their hands since the WP7 launch day. If you check YouTube, all you'll find are videos of that Dell lady demoing the phone for everyone.
Wherever you heard this 3 hour rumor, I call bullsh**.
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I am really thinking bout getting this over the HD7, but some reviews were saying that it may have 3 hours of talk time?!!!! If this is at all true with an AMOLED screen, then wow. I know Dell computer batteries suck, hope they used another company for their batteries. I know it isn't out yet, but what are your guys thoughts?
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Dell computer batteries suck? Wtf have you been buying. My 3 year old Dell Latitude D630 still gets a good 6-7 hours of battery life.
No one has even received a review unit of the DVP yet, so it would be impossible for anyone to conclude that battery life is only 3 hours.
The microsoft site states that the battery life is 7 hours with 14 hours of standby time (if I am reading it correctly).
Se4nH4x said:
Dell computer batteries suck? Wtf have you been buying. My 3 year old Dell Latitude D630 still gets a good 6-7 hours of battery life.
No one has even received a review unit of the DVP yet, so it would be impossible for anyone to conclude that battery life is only 3 hours.
The microsoft site states that the battery life is 7 hours with 14 hours of standby time (if I am reading it correctly).
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Alright, thanks. Yea, the site I usually go on just changed their info to 7 hours too. Thats really the only worry I had about the phone.
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This is the first dell phone . They've had handheld devices before (pocket PC's) but the build quality and overall product was terrible (they didn't put much effort into them).
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I'd disagree. I had an Axim X5 and an X50v, and I found the build quality to be fantastic. They were solidly built, hard wearing and all round well designed. Pretty much everything about them gave the impression of solidity. I still have the X50v and the only signs of it being 6 years old is a small amount of the chrome paint has come off the centre button and the battery is knackered (this would happen to any 6-year-old Li-ion battery). When I sold the X5 it had no signs of wear at all. I'm fully expecting the Venue Pro to be the same.
I really love the form factor of this phone. Having a full screen with a slideout keyboard that doesn't go to landscape mode would be perfect! Two issues:
1) The TMo data network in my area, while 3G, is pretty poor
2) Same ol' 1GHz snapdragon processor
So switch to CDMA and toss in one of those fancy dual core Snapdragons and I'll be in line on launch day
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I really love the form factor of this phone. Having a full screen with a slideout keyboard that doesn't go to landscape mode would be perfect! Two issues:
1) The TMo data network in my area, while 3G, is pretty poor
2) Same ol' 1GHz snapdragon processor
So switch to CDMA and toss in one of those fancy dual core Snapdragons and I'll be in line on launch day
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Yeah, I am liking the idea of possibly being able to QUICKLY type out a text message with just one hand. If it had a landscape keyboard, it wouldn't be easy to do that.
I have a Dell Streak - and the build quality is brilliant. Its really very very good. If the Venue Pro is anything like that then it will be excellent Im sure.
Battery life on the Streak isnt anything to shout about but its a 5" screen and I had it running some live wallpapers.
I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 shop and now Im torn! Windows Phone 7 is slick as a bag of oiled up ferrets!
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I have a Dell Streak - and the build quality is brilliant. Its really very very good. If the Venue Pro is anything like that then it will be excellent Im sure.
Battery life on the Streak isnt anything to shout about but its a 5" screen and I had it running some live wallpapers.
I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 shop and now Im torn! Windows Phone 7 is slick as a bag of oiled up ferrets!
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Yep.. all MS needs to do is get an update sent out with a lot of the missing features we all want/need.
Hi everybody in this wonderfull forum.
To get straight to the point, I'm planning to get a new phone in the next month.
I've serched alot but found no smartphone has multi-boot abilities like HTC HD2. The HTC HD2 has 'quiet' good hardware in comparison to current smartphones on stores shelves. You all know that already.
The problem is, for an outdated device like that, is it worth buying it new? as i don't trust used smartphones anyway.
The way i see it like this:
Yes, very worthwhile because:
Large nice display;
Multible OS support, live in many worlds;
While WM6.5 is depricated, still very functional specially with HTC sense;
The price is affordable according to the fact that it is old somehow.
No, it's worthless because:
Display is sub-bar to currnet devices display regarding multitouch, 65K colors limitation, and overall quality against S.AMOLED Plus or Retina displays for example;
Multible OS support is great but won't go without issues. At least won't be as fluid as native OS on its own device;
Camera is not decent (no 720p video recording, at least as much as i'm aware of);
The price is affordable yes but i can add up a bit more and get newer phone that is better hardware wise and withought much issues.
I know this question might been asked many times. still i ask as it is time dependent and the answer change over time.
What do you guys recommend me to do?
Buy HTC HD2 and fulfill your needs to 'Have It All' and don't complain about any issues;
The time is over for an outdated device even with multiple OS's possibility, save your money son.
Thank you all in advance,
Ahmed.
Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps
Is say buy a re-conditioned hd2 save some money, android feels native to my hd2 its more native than most android devices because it has a bigger team working on it.
Is you want android and you want to save some ££££ get one if you want android and £££££ aren't an issue get the galaxy2
If you don't want android then I don't want to talk to you.... lol
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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps
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Thank you for your reply.
So to sum it up, you think no need to buy new. and iPhone looks better value in your eyes.
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Seems nice point of view. Thank you
Not a problem. I even found radioshack at times have good sale prices on they're phones. I think all of these will even let you use your upgrade if your due for one. if you do plan even down the road i found it worth wild to try to find those promo codes. just go to your browser..yahoo/google whatever and type in wirefly promo codes or wirefly coupon codes. it will give you tons of sites but if you take a little time like i said it could save you a good amount of money. glad i could be of any help.
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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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Thank you,
Just to make it clear, i currently hold Blackberry Curve 8520 that i want to replace. The next phone would be my main phone for at least 2 years. I live in Egypt so no access to T-Mobile stuff i think.
If i to buy a phone, no way i could change soon. my budget now about 3000 L.E or 500 USD. Still, i know phone prices are higher in Egypt than USA so don't let that 500 USD think of high end devices as i wont be able to get them here with that price.
you could always look for a device that could be used world wide and buy it in the U.S offline from someplace like amazon/ebay etc and have it shipped to Egypt. Im really ignorant to what would be in Egypt and wouldn't as far as stores so im not sure what would and wouldn't work. sorry. i did almost buy the g2 from ebay in the UK because it was a lot cheaper there then here in the US and the seller told me it would work but i bought the hd2 instead so i dont know for sure. i can say the hd2 is a gsm phone so like tmobile or if its unlocked you can use at&t. im sure there are ways to get it on different gsm providers but im clueless of how to flash it over.
Yep that's a problem. I don't know what i buy abroad would work here or not. besides shipping has costs plus government share ... i think it'd be the same if i buy form local stores besides the guarantee that what i buy works.
I'm using a second hand one after smashing my old one, never had an issue you'll pick one up for £160 (15k)
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Ask your questions in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623197
Or pm any of the users
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Go for new device. Go for Samsung galaxy s2. But if htc hd2 satisfies ur needs then go for it, no need to go for new devices.
go get it!
i've got one just a month ago, after waiting for financial resources.
i think is the best phone ever!
I was wondering about this too and was told that some devs are working on the Desire HD. Might be something to look into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765
the htc hd2 can run ROMs that are desire & desire hd base so thats always a plus but considering that the next phone will be your main phone for two years i really think buying a new phone is the best route for you. also if you ask whats a good phone in a specific model thread everyone will tell you they have the best phone so checking out reviews on sites like cnet.com & testfreaks.com are probably your best option as far as getting an idea on a good phone. i still would check the threads after you have an idea on a couple phones you like just to see what people can do with those phone's that aren't really listed in the specs.
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I red them all and figured out this. i like to play with different OS's. This is what i do on PCs so, i guess if i'm bounded to a single OS (however its greatness), i'd miss having other mobiles with other OS's. The HTC HD2 seems a good deal to me. And its hardware is not that bad afterall.
Thank you again,
i buyed a broken hd2 for 90€ 1 month ago. all i can say it's that it's a wonderful smartphone, no other phone on the planet can run 5/6 OS, android feels like native, and developement is still real active. i didn't feel the need of a faster smartphone.
hardware is really good, photo aren't bad, we have 720p recording with wp7 and soon on android too, screen is ok, multitouch is perfect, it lacks video out, but how many time we need a tv-out? (i used tv-out on my ipod video 2/3 times in 3/4 years just to test it), it lack a frontal camera, but hey! i hate calling, i double hate video calling
so i didn't need anything else
Yep you are totaly right in my opinion. However, i saw many videos on youtube complaining about battery life even on the stock os. i know big screen = battery drain faster. but 6 or 8 hours aren't accepted at all as some videos shows. They also said stuff about lags and the need to restart the phone few times weekly and sometimes daily. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim? I'd appreciate it.
Hey all
I've just finished an 18 month contract with O2 for a HD2 - which I've just given a refresh with CyanogenMod.
Given contracts are 24 month minimum now for anything decent (free) - should I stick with the HD2 for 12 months on a cheapo sim free deal or upgrade to the SII?
Is it worth it?
Cheers
Upgrade mate i had a HD2 for a year and a half and a superb phone it was as well but this phone is unbeatable.
I bought mine outright as i hate being tied into long contracts never again.
As hardware goes, it is not worth it. SGS2 is about the same, except it is a lot lighter. As for software, well .. its different OS. All is different .. something better, something worse. It really depends what you use the phone for.
i will stick to HTC HD2 as it more solid case than SGS II...
Hmm.. The advantage of going sim only is I'm paying half as much for basically the same tariff - and with CyanogenMod NAND the HD2 is much much improved over running it off sd or windows bloody mobile 6.5.
Support for the HD2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon either is it?
And I don't have the money to buy the SGS2 outright - although I am off to Shanghai in about 3 weeks so I might find one there on the cheeap.
on what reasons mate? do you own both phones ? @miceormen
I think you should upgrade if you are technology freak like any of us owning a SGII
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As hardware goes, it is not worth it. SGS2 is about the same, except it is a lot lighter. As for software, well .. its different OS. All is different .. something better, something worse. It really depends what you use the phone for.
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Hardware is about the same? You do realize that hardware goes beyond the outer casing right? The SoC to start is a dual core ARM A9 compared to the first generation Snapdragon single core, with the ARM A9 alone offering about a 25% speed improvement per core compared to the Snapdragon. The GPU, a Mali 400, is miles better than the Adreno 200, which even the Power SGX 540 bested by at least three times. The screen size is the same, but the SGSII offers much better contrast and viewing angles with its Super Amoled Plus compared to the TFT LCD on the HD2. And this time around, no Pentile! The SGSII camera is much better than the HD2, no comparisons needed.
Samsung's software on the SGSII is actually superb and without lag, unlike its previous generations, and Touchwiz 4.0 actually offers quite an array of improvements to the standard AOSP Android. Take the butter smooth browser as an example.
Unless you truly want the next greatest (Nexus Prime or Tegra 3), then go for it. The Nexus Prime shouldn't offer a huge technological leap over the SGSII, but it does come with AOSP Android. However, heavy development for the SGSII should make up for updates in the case that Samsung chooses to move slowly (Samsung has improved drastically on its update schedules however).
I wouldn't hold on to the HD2 for long since the touchscreen digitzer is bound to fail over time, due to the power button applying pressure to the touchscreen ribbon connector.
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Hmm.. The advantage of going sim only is I'm paying half as much for basically the same tariff - and with CyanogenMod NAND the HD2 is much much improved over running it off sd or windows bloody mobile 6.5.
Support for the HD2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon either is it?
And I don't have the money to buy the SGS2 outright - although I am off to Shanghai in about 3 weeks so I might find one there on the cheeap.
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I sold my HD2 and an MP3 player to fund my purchase of the GS2 i wanted it that much, i have been in long mobile contracts before, it's worse in the UK 24 months now is usually the norm i was only on an 18 month one but too long and there's nothing you can do unless you pay off your contract,i missed out on some great deals in that time so i swore never again,a rolling monthly contract or PAYG is the only one for me now.
As regards the HD2, i wont have a bad word said against this amazing phone,probably the most "loved" device on XDA but it's time to move on to bigger and better things and it doesn't get much better than the GS2.
Fair enough. Well I think the best plan is to serve up an ultimatum to O2 who I've been with for 8 years and either get a fantastic 18 month SGS2 deal or keep my HD2 and get a Tesco sim. Customer loyalty doesn't seem to mean a great deal these days..
Check out giffgaff. 300 mins ultd text and data ten pounds a month. i had a hd2. played with it but never got it working quite right. got gs2 and its great. camera is soooooo much better. video is sooo much better. screen is amazing. nothing realy uses its power yeat. but that the same with all dual cores. actually started to prefer the feel of this phone. i go back to hd2 and it just feels really heavy and dated. im only paying 15 pounds a month on two year contract. 400 min 1gig ultd text. freeeeeee.
I upgraded to the S2 and I must say I love it. This beast is Blazing fast and I would not trade it in for anything else!
Best,
Sebkinne
But you had to by the SGS2 yourself right? Giffgaff is a sim only operator is it not..?
I thought u were going to tesco pay as u go and waiting. im on orange. the sales guy messed up and i got a great deal. giffgaff is just pay as u go. if u look on tech radar review it has a box saying about where to buy. there were some 18 month contracts for around 30 but u pay 100 for phone.
same problem
Hi Guys,
Having the same problem here, I am very happy with the HD2 with the Platinum ROM of Laurentius26, that I am scratching my head now what to do!
My question is more like stay with the HD2 (Platinum ROM), go with the Galaxy S2 or wait for the iphone5?
The reason is that I am going to receive 2 new Samsung Galaxy S2 via my provider. My initial idea was to sell them (unopened, unused = more money), stay with the HD2 for the moment and wait for the iphone5 to buy and try out. But now I am reading everywhere that the GS2 is such a magnificent device, and I am starting to doubt. Together with the fact that the HD2 is working perfectly for me, but, being a technician, would like to check out the latest.
I am using my device mainly for:
- calling (of course, but good call quality is important)
- SMS (with Swype, absolutely)
- TomTom (I have heard Sygnic is similar, but have a hard time leaving TT)
- Flashlight (unbelievable how many times I am using the flash as a light)
- camera and video (shooting and viewing)
- syncing with Outlook ( a must, but push email is not needed)
- web browsing every now and then
What do you think?
Upgrade, I gave my HD2 to my Dad and bought a SGS2. Definitely worth the upgrade, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
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, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
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Ha, but this might be the issue, the Platinum ROM is soo made for the HD2, I couldn't even be bothered to try out Android or Win7 on the HD2... yep, the ROM is Win6.5
The best thing i done was get rid of WIN 6.5 on my old HD2 and put NAND Android on it, the HD2 should have been an Android handset from the start.
I love my HD2, but this phone is far better in every way, I got my GS2 for 18 month contract, only 21 quid a month, god bless 02 customer loyalty!top deal
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Upgrade, I gave my HD2 to my Dad and bought a SGS2. Definitely worth the upgrade, in the end the HD2 is not a native Android phone and there will always be some issues.
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not agree with that, I got less issues with my NAND droid rom on my HD2, then with my GS2, infact its flawless my HD2!
I was a loyal Windows Mobile user since 2003. Had several devices and only the HD2 could live somewhat up to being a really usable device. I had tested Android on my Blackstone and there it was like WinMo nearly unusable. So when I tried out Android on my HD2 simply because I was bored and wanted to see what my device could do, I was surprised. It was faster and more stable than any WinMo device/Rom combo I have ever used. Many features didn't work, but it didn't matter to me. Since then I have become an Android fan, since it is much more user friendly, stable, faster, looks better and has better support for new apps. Never went back to WinMo besides updating quickGPS. Now Android works nearly flawless on the HD2. But I decided to get a SGS2 from ebay, since it has a better screen, camera (It's really muuuuch better) and media playback capabilities.(including HDMI) In everyday usage it isn't really faster than my HD2 since that would be nearly impossible. But another aspect I didn't consider would prevent me from switching back now : The weight. It feels much better in the hand, especially if you are reading a book or surf for a long time. And everything just works out of the box. I nevertheless got a custom ROM with root and switched to ADW launcher since I got accustomed to their benefits on my HD2. Will switch to CyanigenMod as soon as codecs, OTG and MHL are fully working. But considering that these are all features the HD2 does not have, I would say CM is as far as it is on the HD2. Also the HD2 isn't sturdier than the HD2. My HD2 can be twisted and there is a gap between case and battery cover. My SGS2 does not have these problems.
In the end I would say the choice depends on your preferences and money. When I looked at eBay 2 weeks ago, the HD2s with similar or worse conditions then mine got prices from 200-250€ min. I bought it 1.5 years ago for 350€. Now I bought my SGS2 for 450€(that was the Max price I was ready to pay). When I get around to it, I will sell my HD2 and I won't regret it. I had a great time with it and there probably will never be a phone which was it's time that much ahead(there are many new devices inferior to the HD2, in fact pretty much everything up to the release of the SGS2 wasn't much of an improvement if any at all) and could break the software restrictions (thanks to the community) that much. But everything has an expiration date. And for tech junkies that has been reached for the HD2, I think.
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Hello.
I'm a computer student, a poor computer student! who can change his phone every 2 years! I earn money with hard student working. It's time to change now, I've a (crappy) LG Arena KM900 for 2 years and I cant really ignore this piece of wasted money anymore. Short story...
Is it reasonable to buy a HD2 for about 450 USD?! Here I can find used HD2 for $330 too but who cares, I can't trust other people (and their great used phone!).
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Another option is Galaxy S, I9000 with exactly 455 USD, no used one found. Now what you think? I can also have a Moto Milestone (used) for $290. Here we don't access to int postal & payment services so just forget amazon, ebay and...
- I've enjoyed changing my Arena theme with some geeky tricks! so HD2 with all of this roms and os selections...
- I'm afraid of HD2 production to be stopped and I miss my dreams phone! else I really don't care of new phones with 8 cpu cores or 12mp cameras!
- My current phone dpesn't have bluetooth PAN ability which is used for using phone internet connection on PC. does HD2 have this?
- I'm a fan of wp7, can I count on HD2 with this os? what about battery life?!
- is is reaaly so BIG that I can't put it in my jeans pocket?
Thanks you
Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
You can get a used HTC HD2 for ~$150 and ship it to wherever you live
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My opinion,
For an almost 3 years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...
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Not so old, sir! It released 2009 november, so it's exactly 2 years old...
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You are correct. However, I counted it as 2009 YOP and now we are almost 2012.
More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD
Marvlesz said:
Hello,
First of all,
-Yes, the HD2 does have bluetooth PAN.
-WP7 has some bugs on the HD2 which briefly are:
+*Multitouch does not work properly.
+*Compass is not working with Mango (until now).
+*There seems to be a lot of people struggling with the battery life. (however I have not had that).
+*The speaker's sound is horrible.
-It's big when you are using it, and small when you are to put it into your pocket (it's not that big).
Also, you have to be aware of two things:
The HD2 has two major issues, one being the touchscreen, some devices lose their touchscreens after an amount of time.
The second thing is, the End button may wear off for frequent use or become too hard to press, and sometimes this may also cause the screen to become unresponsive.
(correct me if I'm wrong)
My opinion,
For a two years old device, $450 can get you something better. But if you can get it less, I'd definitely recommend getting one .
But the HD2 is still the best for me, and I don't think I'm changing it, not at least for another year .
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Thank you, very useful answer
So you say if I buy an unused device then take care of that then still I may have problems with screen & buttons?
Let's make it clear, I'm on my decide for HD2, it's about one whole year that I'm reading reviews and following software improvements... this topic is actually a try to forget all those fresh and stylish gadgets
But! if you think HD2 will disappoint me then which phone should I buy instead? to me SGS is also attractive, you know, because of it's roms & customizations + great hardware.
Should I forget HD2 because of it's old hardware and expensive price in my country? then I think it's better to wait and buy a NOW DAYS phone when I have enough money?! or you have a better offer...?
More like $200.00 I STILL HAVE MINE EXACTLY 2YRS OLD
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and you're still happy with this monster?
if you were me then what?
Hey myview.ir ,
i bought my own HD2 5 days ago for 230 $ on Ebay.
It was declared as "nearly new without any scratches".
Windows Mobile gave out a compleate speaking time of 5 Minutes!
Go out and search a nice looking HD2 on Ebay, buy it with Paypal and you'll be happy with it (of course, install Android 2.35 with Sense like this one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1298188 ).
I'm a "poor" student too - so don't waste your money for buying things like new smartphones
I also bought mine for 230$ Its really great phone I moved from SE x10 just one week ago. I took me like 1 day to learn how to install, modify nand to be able to install android but I figured it out and when I saw rom with sense 3.5 for the first time ever I said it was the best move I could do Hd2 has much bigger community and roms works much better :] Already installed shadowgun and guest what? It works really great smooth and fast so the question is why wouldn't I love this phone?
thank you Cadilac & sab3r
I'm in love with this device, mainly because of of that it's not a phone like any others, yes my friend recently bought a shiny xperia arc s wich is really great looking and he is so happy with that but I'm not of that type! It's vivid, anyone who stayed with HD2 has a reason and it's freedom, oh ah :]
ok. Shopping from ebay is a normal thing for you, but here in my country if you want to have a $100 paypal payment then you have to pay $130! we don't have paypal or visa or master here, whoahh :\
prepareing for $450 deal
I'm crazy. huh!
This is an amazing phone, after 18 months I still don't want to change it despite being an early adopter in most things (which is always tough on my low salary!). I'd definitely recommend this phone, but as others say, look at the $230-250 range of prices. Good luck!
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Love my HD2. Best phone ever!!!!!!!! Recently broke my phone. Got a new one for $150. Cant bet that......lol
Also got to say - love this phone - play with it more than I use it!
Also dropped it a few times, cracked the small glass covering the camera lens but it seems to take better photos now.
450$ is far too much. I bought it new 340€ last year at a mall
less than 300$ can be reasonable.
Ok!
Thank you all, I'm still in love. Some people said to me about battery problems with HD2, compared to i9000 sgs. My current phone is horrible on this field and if HD2 has a weak battery then it's deal breaker for me! I know, it's a smartphone with massive screen and some energy eater parts inse but lets compare it to other HTC devices, like dhd or newer sensation...
and yeah, "berrutti" said that it's too much for a dated gadget. I don't know, maybe best thing I can do is going to the city shop and ask both HD2 & i9000 and play with them some minutes then trust my feel! I's hard to decide, fresh young device with well-known old hero.
XDA-Developers Market Forum
I bought a used T-Mobile HD2 right here on the XDA-Developers Market Forum for US$200, which included shipping. I suggest you try this as you can be fairly sure about who you are dealing with and their trustworthiness.
Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
- HD2 with one year of usage, price: ~ $320
additional tools: 2 batteries & 8GB memory card
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2795
- HD2 with 2 years of usage, price: ~ $345
additional tools: TV cable & case
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2805
- Samsung galaxy S with 4 months of usage, price: ~ $370
http://alldigitall.ir/specs.aspx?pid=2804
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so,
I'm thinking!
myview.ir said:
Because of my location any worlwide service will cost so much, if I want a used HD2 with $250 then it will finish $370 for me!
I've found some local used devices which doesn't have any additional cost, bust I don't know sellers! here I've listed them:
so,
I'm thinking!
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It still might be worth your time to put an ad on the XDA-Developers Market Forum, as this is a worldwide forum, and just like you, not all members are in the US. There is a chance you could find someone in Ireland, or nearby in Europe, who has an HD2, and then your shipping charges would not be so high.
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I was very much like you and when i eventualy got my HD2 I wished I had done it sooner. It is the ultimate in customisation have broken the first one my fault i had to buy a replacement straight away that was a month ago . I didnt even consider any other phone. Just try to get a good price and see who has got one here it is international here look at the signatures
Mark
If you're in the US, try cowboom. I just bought a used one from there for $130US. the price increased to $140 a day later.
2 minor scratches on top. Buttons look worn out only if you look at it very closely. otherwise, it looks perfectly fine. I put WP7 on it and it's amazing. Also works a zune player (similar interface). runs as smooth if not smoother than my brand new htc sensation with android.
I been using a Nokia 5800 now for 2 years or so. I was on AT&t but just this week I flip over to StraightTalk with an AT&T simm for much less money.
Anyway, I am looking to get away from a small acreen.
I had in my hands an HTC Titan and loved Mango with the email /contacts integration and the size of the screen. I was using it to watch Netflix confortably. Anyway would have kept the phone except that in 30 days I had three Titans and ALL of them had the random power cycle every like 12 to18hrs and I had tried some troubleshooting but didn't make a difference. Beside the fact it had awful Voice quality on phone calls both ways. So all of the Titans got shipped back and I reversed the upgrade well that was when I was with AT&T which is no longer the case.
The Dell Venue pro seems like the price is right now (Amazon, Newegg) but I know the hardware is more than an year old now. At this point in time would one want to purchase this phone? Does this phone have a front facing camera too? How is the voice quality?
When I had the Titan in my hands I played with the Tango Video chat software and talked to my cousin in Australia and it worked out fine except for voice, when I plugged in a headset it was night and day difference.
Just curious how many windows phone have a front facing camera and have decent voice quality both ways?
Looking for suggestions here. I have read some of the forum but just can't make a decision on how to get away from my 3.2 inch screen of my Nokia 5800. Thank you in advance for suggestions.
neftv said:
I been using a Nokia 5800 now for 2 years or so. I was on AT&t but just this week I flip over to StraightTalk with an AT&T simm for much less money.
Anyway, I am looking to get away from a small acreen.
I had in my hands an HTC Titan and loved Mango with the email /contacts integration and the size of the screen. I was using it to watch Netflix confortably. Anyway would have kept the phone except that in 30 days I had three Titans and ALL of them had the random power cycle every like 12 to18hrs and I had tried some troubleshooting but didn't make a difference. Beside the fact it had awful Voice quality on phone calls both ways. So all of the Titans got shipped back and I reversed the upgrade well that was when I was with AT&T which is no longer the case.
The Dell Venue pro seems like the price is right now (Amazon, Newegg) but I know the hardware is more than an year old now. At this point in time would one want to purchase this phone? Does this phone have a front facing camera too? How is the voice quality?
When I had the Titan in my hands I played with the Tango Video chat software and talked to my cousin in Australia and it worked out fine except for voice, when I plugged in a headset it was night and day difference.
Just curious how many windows phone have a front facing camera and have decent voice quality both ways?
Looking for suggestions here. I have read some of the forum but just can't make a decision on how to get away from my 3.2 inch screen of my Nokia 5800. Thank you in advance for suggestions.
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You know, that's a good question, one that has been tossed around in a couple of threads. It will all boil down to personal choice, of course. Yes, the dell is an old phone. But, its still a good phone. If you can get it contract free, it may be a good deal for you. I just gave mine to my son lady week. He came from an HTC sensation. Loves it.
There are several new phones out right now, a Samsung or 2, the titan, nokia has the 710, 610, 800 out now or real soon. Most fall into tufted 3.x range. Too small for me.
Nokia is introducing the Lumia 900 series in the next 2 weeks. You can check the specs on nokia.com. They look good. This will be my choice.
This week in Barcelona is the mobile world conference. You should see a lot of new offerings come from there. If you can wait , I recommend checking out the news from mwc first...you can follow it in engadget.com, and other places.
The key recommend would be, try the phone, do the research, and most of all, HOLD the phone. See on it feels and fits in your hand. Take no ones word but your own. And mine, of course.
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I know the mobile expo this week but I decided to try out the Dell Venue Pro from NewEgg. They have a decent 30 day return so I don't think I can lose. This phone seems to be unlocked for TMobile 3G but I may decide if I keep it to do that procedure (which I hope works) in the menu to change it to AT&T 3G bands. well see.
I really can't spend 400 on a phone right now. I hope I like the Dell enough to keep it for a while as I save money using StraightTalk. I kinda will miss the front facing camera that the Titan has when I used it with that Tango Video chat software. I thought about used but I not so lucky with used things.
neftv said:
I know the mobile expo this week but I decided to try out the Dell Venue Pro from NewEgg. They have a decent 30 day return so I don't think I can lose. This phone seems to be unlocked for TMobile 3G but I may decide if I keep it to do that procedure (which I hope works) in the menu to change it to AT&T 3G bands. well see.
I really can't spend 400 on a phone right now. I hope I like the Dell enough to keep it for a while as I save money using StraightTalk. I kinda will miss the front facing camera that the Titan has when I used it with that Tango Video chat software. I thought about used but I not so lucky with used things.
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cool...keep in mind, the 900 is supposed to be $99 USD + 2 YR contract on AT&T next month
IMO there are some nice gen2 phones for AT&T bands, but not nearly as much for T-mo. For me, portrait hardware qwerty slider FTW. Now that Skype is in beta though, and since you're on AT&T, I think the Nokia 900 is probably your dominant choice (esp. if you're cool with the contract). Faster, FF camera, best rear cam (DVP prob has the worst cam implementation), extra Nokia maps, etc.
We can only dream that Nokia makes a 900 spec device with vertical slider and AWS bands. Then I predict eBay will be flooded with $80 DVPs
Sent from my Venue Pro
Well I just got out of AT&T and went with an AT&T sim card from StraightTalk to save some money a month. Nice thing with StraightTalk I can flip to a TMobile with a purchase of a Tmobile Sim card if I wanted to. The lumia 900 has great specs on paper will have to see how it is when it actually comes out with people doing some reviews. Probably the most important to me is how does it sound on voice calls in both directions... The lousy experience with Titan besides the random power cycling on 3 different Titans I had in 30 days that I had it was with call quality. It was somewhat embarressing. Nice phone but call quality stinks on that phone. Seems like people forget about voice with all the other features these phones have after all it is a phone. I can't believe in this day and age we have to worry about Voice quality on a Cell Phone.
I thought i read somewhere that possibly in May that Nokia was going to sell the Nokia Lumia 900 (or simulair) as an unlocked device. I would imagine it will be priced way out of my range but still for those that can spend.
Unlock or locked?
I have my Venue Pro now. It seems to be unlocked for GSM . I have an AT&T sim from StraightTalk and it just wants to connect on E I guess that is edge. Even after changing the bands I click save is there something more?