[Q] Fascinate Phone Speaker Quality/Feedback? - Fascinate General

I'm wondering if this is normal?
I got a Fascinate last week, and so far I absolutely love the phone with a couple exceptions.
One of them is that when I'm having a conversation, I hear my own voice through the earpiece and its SUPER distracting. And other people's voices aren't exactly paragons of sound quality.
Obviously through my stereo headset this isn't an issue, but I can't wear that all the time - when out and about or driving it's not an option, for example.
Is this normal? Fixable? I tried playing with the "enhanced voice security" feature, didn't seem to make much of a difference...

You can tweak the audio settings thru the hidden menu in the dialer. Look in this forum for the topic "android secret code string revealed" & be careful what you change.
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Had first one for 2 weeks and thought I was being overly picky. But went to vz store and made calls on 2 SF floor models and those sounded way better. Manager did the same with mine and heard it and exchanged on sight no hassle. Bad speaker for you too maybe? Something to consider checking out though.
good day.

Yeah I think I will wander down to the Verizon store tomorrow, sadly there isn't one handy to my house today, but there is one right near work.

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EVO earpiece distorted

Anyone notice distortion through the earpiece when set at the highest volume?
Yep. I notice it when the phone is ringing. The ring is usually clear, but on the Evo there's a slight buzz/distortion. Seems to continue in phone calls, too.
It's not terrible, but it's noticeable. I compared with a Hero, and the Hero sounds great.
Also, I noticed the max volume on the earpiece during a phone call is relatively quiet. I think it's a little quieter than the Hero.
if you enable the Hearing aids feature, it will amplify the max in call volume; it will be much louder. it seems to distort the sound somewhat as well. i could see myself using this feature in noisy surroundings. you access the feature via Settings->Call->Hearing aids.
yes, i have noticed this as well. every word is distorted/rattling. the loudest setting is way too quiet as well, but all i get is distorting. i can't stand talking on the evo because of this. every word from every person...
4thephil said:
yes, i have noticed this as well. every word is distorted/rattling. the loudest setting is way too quiet as well, but all i get is distorting. i can't stand talking on the evo because of this. every word from every person...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696648
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696648
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thanks, but that ##778 number didn't work for me on my sprint evo :/ sounds promising if i could have dialed it though :/
I was hoping after a few days that this crackling wouldn't bother me so much...but its really annoying..looks like ill be exchanging since some people appear to be having better luck when doing so. Here's my question thought...since I bought the phone from best buy, Do I have to exchange there or can I go to a Sprint store? I have the Sprint insurance.
Did changing the vocoder resolve the distortion issue for you?
I notice a little buzzing at times in my conversations. It is subtle, but very annoying. I'm skeptical this is a vocoder issue though -- almost seems like a speaker problem. Seems to get better if I turn the volume down.

Horrid noise cancellation

I have tried to look for some threads regarding noise cancellation but the only ones i found were recommendations and questions about it.
I am sorry but I feel the urge to open this thread and at the same time surprised by the fact this thread has not been created before.
I constantly get people claiming they can hear background noises almost at the same level as they can hear my voice. It seems like every time I walk down the street, any background noises (bus, cars, people shouting, music, etc) are being passed onto the other person's line. It also holds for when I am at home with friends and someone calls me, the person on the other line claims he can hear practically every word my friends are talking about as if he is on speaker phone.
Also, connecting my Nexus S to my bluetooth speaker in my car is almost not possible as people claim they hear me as if i'm in a 'space shuttle'. I can confirm that its not the bluetooth speaker as I used to have a Blackberry and never had any issues.
Anyone experiences it as well? knows about someone developing a solution for it? or is it just me hallucinating here
This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.
generalagony said:
This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.
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"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.
Simple solution (albeit it costs money). Get a noise cancelling bluetooth device. I have a blueant t1 and I never get background noise complaints. People don't even realize I'm riding on the highway. I wouldn't put too much hope it the devs doing a whole lot with noise cancellation because there's only so much software can do, since the phone lacks the hardware for true noise cancellation.
This has been posted a few times when the phone first released. There's no fix unfortunately, and a deal breaker for some. In noisy places the call quality seems to suffer from the software noise cancel function.
What noise cancellation? Yea, its quite a change from the Nexus One. People hear EVERYTHING that goes on in the background.
You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.
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You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.
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For the Nexus S? can you give an example?
zephiK said:
"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.
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Ouch. Pwnd. Everyone knew what I meant
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co0kie said:
For the Nexus S? can you give an example?
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Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.
it may be possible to noisegate out sounds below a certain level which depends on the mean amplitude level of a range of frequencies common to the voice. in otherwords, calculating the average amplitude the voice is, and removing anything significantly below that amplitude.
however without a second out-of-phase microphone, results wouldn't be all that great and would be processor intensive.
interesting project i may look at some time in the future.
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Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.
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I'm not sure weather CrystalTalk stands for a specific feature on Motorola's ROMs but if its a software, on Android, couldn't it be ported to other ROMs?
btw, I'm running NScollab 1.0.17 but always experienced such issues, even when I was on stock 2.3.3 pre-root.
I was not looking for Nexus S. Simply trying to prove a point that software noise cancellation is doable and working great. BTW, the developers of such software can easily port it to different platforms since it does not rely on specific hardware.

Does the 3.2 OTA update improve microphone response?

Has anyone who has installed the 3.2 OTA update been able to ascertain improvement with microphone input? Very interested for voice input purposes, which as of now is not functioning on my A500.
I would love to know the answer to that as well.
I'm running 3.1, which is known to have mic issues, and I'm barely audible to the person on the other side of video chat. Running the voice recording app confirms mic input is extremely low.
Hopefully 3.2 fixes this. If not, I'll have to dump this tablet on eBay.
Its a hardware problem, the software wont do anything.
You can try to mod it yourself like I did
if is a hardware issue, why connecting an external mic doesn't improve the recording level ?
I wasn't aware you could connect an external mic. Isn't the headset port for output only?
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Its a hardware problem, the software wont do anything.
You can try to mod it yourself like I did
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Where is the post describing your mod?
The 3.2 update doesn't change a thing about the mic. Boosting the input level 20db in software also increases the level of the considerable system noise. Only a hardware mod would fix it.
Aside from the minnor 4 ounces weight disadvantage over the lightest tabs out there, the mic is the one major problem with this tab. It seems designed for the near proximity audio source of a mobile phone.
Oh...
In that case, would anyone like to buy an Acer Iconia A500 Tablet? Used but in MINT conditon!
documentaryman said:
Where is the post describing your mod?
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Aside from the minnor 4 ounces weight disadvantage over the lightest tabs out there, the mic is the one major problem with this tab. It seems designed for the near proximity audio source of a mobile phone.
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The mic response on mine is substantially worse than that on my OG Droid. On the Droid 1, mic and voice input is surprisingly excellent. At the same distance, the A500 is unusable for voice input. Except for that, it's a fine machine, but this aspect has me on the fence about whether to return it or not. So I am looking for any approach to fix it: HW mod, upgrade, bluetooth input, wired mic input. Nothing so far is satisfactory, or even nearly as good as the Droid from 2 years ago.
Are you really selling?
How much and how? Lol
3.2 makes no improvement but I am not sure that it is just a hardware fault. Recording level is better in the camcorder app than in the voice recorder one.
I had a video call to an Ipad the other day, their voice was crystal clear but they complained that mine was very hard to hear. I suspect that when Skype becomes available for Tegra tabs there will be a lot of people complaining about their A500!
I am wondering if anyone has found a mic to use that gives good volume for talk. One of the things I want to use this to do is video chat with my father, it's kind of a let down that this doesn't seem like an easy fix.
The funny thing is that there are reports of people using headphone/headsets from their cell phones (with three strips instead of two strips in normal stereo headphones) as a workaround. It does not work for me and can make the microphone input even worse on voice recorder. I cannot confirm if the device has the hardware for the 3.5mm jack to have 2 output and 1 input.
Others have also said it is a software issue that crept up. It was non-existent in 3.0.1 and appeared in 3.1. Yet, another responded that they downgraded from 3.1 to 3.0.1 and the issue was still there.
I have read on other forums that the Android update to 3.1 had caused the mic to be useless on other brand tablets as well, which lends to something not specific to our A500 hardware.
Now, in this thread more people are convinced it is a hardware issue.
I'm lost as to what to think, and how some people in this forum are satisfied with their Mic performance. (That or they never use video chat)
My experience:
Voice input seems to work perfectly for me (Searching accurately for addresses and stuff on Google) but the microphone in voice recorder barely picks up a recognizable sound, which also translates into chatting with the Gtalk application.
I cannot confirm that 3.0.1 did not have the mic problem, as I updated to 3.1 immediately after getting the tablet.
I would think if the mic input barely registers a sound, how can the voice input search work so well for me from the same speaking distance? If it were a hardware problem, then the voice search would fail to register the specific sounds of my voice to get detailed information on addresses or items i am searching for. Right? Maybe others can confirm that the voice input for google'ing pics up spoken voice loud, clear, and accurately (maybe depending on accent or not).
Based on this, I am hard pressed to believe this is a hardware problem (not that the microphone is A+ quality either, but it should be decent enough). Hardware is the constant, software/driver is what can change the functionality. I dont know if the ROM cookers or Kernel developers can find us a solution, should this be software.
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Based on this, I am hard pressed to believe this is a hardware problem (not that the microphone is A+ quality either, but it should be decent enough). Hardware is the constant, software/driver is what can change the functionality. I dont know if the ROM cookers or Kernel developers can find us a solution, should this be software.
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You are correct. Hardware is not an issue, because the mic works well enough in other applications. Either the app us at fault or some plug in.
I can confirm voice input works well but any voice communication like GV is garbage. if I speak directly perpendicular to the mike about 10 inches away it's usable but not great for google voice.
Hmm, thought provoking posts.
One poster was remarking that the video recordings were working OK, but the GV ones were not good. My understanding is that there are mics, one on the front side, top center of screen, and one back side, under the back panel. It's tempting to think that the video recording was OK because it was picked up mostly by the camera-side mic, and GV wasn't because it was picked up by the screen-side mic.
I suspect that the two mics have some noise-cancelling function so it'd be partly the differential signal that would matter, sometimes.
So it would be interesting to try voice input, like GV, on the FF camera side (the wrong side) of the tab, to see if it's better. It'd also be interesting to see whether disconnecting one mic would unconfuse some software confused by the differential signal. So far, I haven't had my case apart, so I'm less inclined to try that. I still don't have my 3.2 update, but sounds like they didn't work on it.
I saw a brief note in the bluetooth section of the user guide that the BT mic portion of the spec wasn't implemented yet, so implementing that is another potential workaround.
I thought for a while that the inline mics integrated into some wired earbuds with those 4 contact plugs might also be a workaround, but when I tried one, it didn't seem much better than speaking into the mic, so I suspect that maybe it isn't even working, either.
I got mine at Costco, so it can still be returned. But it also occurred to me that Costco ought to be motivated not to have these returned. A Costco-backed straight answer from Acer, with a planned fix, would probably prevent many returns, especially, as one poster pointed out, Skype doesn't work when it's supposed to. Makes me think a strategic call to Costco buyer might uncover something.
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How much and how? Lol
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Sorry freak. Provantage was kind enough to accept my request to return it as a defective device. I'll be picking up the Samsung Tab 10.1 from them. Video chat and Google+ hangouts were a big part of me justifying this purchase.
To those on the fence about returning it:
Try using the Samsung. While I loved all the features of the Acer, the Tab 10.1 is much more satisfying in actual use. I think the $100 premium over the Iconia is well justified once you've used both for more than 10 minutes.
San Pedro said:
I am wondering if anyone has found a mic to use that gives good volume for talk. One of the things I want to use this to do is video chat with my father, it's kind of a let down that this doesn't seem like an easy fix.
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There is one for apple its called like imic or something. It plugs into in headjack about the size of tip of pinky.
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qhinton said:
There is one for apple its called like imic or something. It plugs into in headjack about the size of tip of pinky.
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Is it this one?
http://touchmic.com/tag/microphone-for-ipad/
Have you used it before? I'm weary to buy something that will not work.
I am finding more people who say that after updating to 3.2 their mic quality dropped considerably.
I have been using Skype and Gtalk as well as attempting to record using the Recorder app ... and all of them record a very poor quality sound in Android 3.2.
In Skype I attempted the test call and was able to hear my recording played back. It was barely loud enough and there were dropouts and pops/clicks etc.
I spoke to an Acer rep about a week ago and he said that the mic issues were addressed in update 3.2 ... which proves that this is most likely a software issue to some degree.
Very frustrating!
I recently installed Tape-aTalk and it records very clearly with the device about half an arms length away from my mouth ... again this points to there being a software issue with some apps ....

Notifications play on speaker while using headphones.

Aside from flashing a Custom ROM, any work around for this Samsung default settings. It’s been a recurring issue since early days Note and Galaxy series and it’s still unresolved in our Note 3.
Alternatives:
-SoundAbout apps from Playstore is one alternative, but I’m reading some reviews that it’s creating some problems with calls and music player settings, though I haven’t tried it yet.
- Tasker apps, though it’s a paid apps. You can create a profile and to turn the notifications to mute when playing music or videos.
-Manually setting up your notifications to MUTE before plugging in your headset.
Any other ways or apps others is using to shut this annoying thing, pls share and help the community.
It's not an issue, it's a feature. How will you know you're getting a call when you're in gym or taking rest hearing to music with phones not in hand! It's designed that way...
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And it's also highly inconvenient when you're in a silent coupé on a train.
Which I am, 7 hours a day.
Or if you're listening to music in an exam (it's allowed), or when you're sharing a room, or everyone else is trying to work in silence...
If I have earphones plugged in, I bloody well have earphones in my ear. I can HEAR through them.This isn't Apple! At least give me a bloody choice!
Major blunder feature.
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It's not an issue, it's a feature. How will you know you're getting a call when you're in gym or taking rest hearing to music with phones not in hand! It's designed that way...
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if this a a feature, its a major blunder I can say.
how do you feel when your in a place with your earplug on listening to your music then suddenly you received a call and with a very high volume your favorite Justin Bieber "Baby" ringtone plays and you see all people looking at your direction before you can unlock your phone and pick up the call??
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if this a a feature, its a major blunder I can say.
how do you feel when your in a place with your earplug on listening to your music then suddenly you received a call and with a very high volume your favorite Justin Bieber "Baby" ringtone plays and you see all people looking at your direction before you can unlock your phone and pick up the call??
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Sorry to necro, but has anyone found a solution to this problem? I have a very difficult time believing that this was an intentional 'feature'; the Note is marketed for enterprise use, and many if not most businesses frown upon ringtones warbling through the workplace. If it was in fact intended, the proponent of this particular quirk needs to be fired and placed out front for public shaming. Holy balls this is annoying.
smartphones seem fraudulent to consumers like us
richardpwnsner said:
Sorry to necro, but has anyone found a solution to this problem? I have a very difficult time believing that this was an intentional 'feature'; the Note is marketed for enterprise use, and many if not most businesses frown upon ringtones warbling through the workplace. If it was in fact intended, the proponent of this particular quirk needs to be fired and placed out front for public shaming. Holy balls this is annoying.
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I can't expres how deeply annoyed I'm with this feature aka but, I mean I do lower down the volume to 0 - Mute before putting headphones on, but it seems anytime I lower down to a lower volume, it doesn't save this, even though there is no phone restart, Samsung has proven to be absolutely unreliable, this **** doesn't happen on a Nexus, so it doesn't seem to be an android problem, what is this thing.....I mean iphone had the reliability with the ****ty restrictions and now Samsung with this ****, I think consumers need something which is worth the amount of money they pay, these companies are becoming philthy rich by selling smartphones but in reality they don't nearly deserve, a patch to iphone makes you lose all your data, they should be sued honestly, this is just disgusting and then these 2 companies are fighting with each other on who will make more money, hey stop, first of all both of you need to pay back the consumers whose money has been paying for your heavens..........
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I can't expres how deeply annoyed I'm with this feature aka but, I mean I do lower down the volume to 0 - Mute before putting headphones on, but it seems anytime I lower down to a lower volume, it doesn't save this, even though there is no phone restart, Samsung has proven to be absolutely unreliable, this **** doesn't happen on a Nexus, so it doesn't seem to be an android problem, what is this thing.....I mean iphone had the reliability with the ****ty restrictions and now Samsung with this ****, I think consumers need something which is worth the amount of money they pay, these companies are becoming philthy rich by selling smartphones but in reality they don't nearly deserve, a patch to iphone makes you lose all your data, they should be sued honestly, this is just disgusting and then these 2 companies are fighting with each other on who will make more money, hey stop, first of all both of you need to pay back the consumers whose money has been paying for your heavens..........
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Just use Soundabout I have been using it for ages and I have not had any issues with calls or anything. I constantly pair my gear and to my car all the time and have had zero issues with calls.
Thanks
kiru said:
Just use Soundabout I have been using it for ages and I have not had any issues with calls or anything. I constantly pair my gear and to my car all the time and have had zero issues with calls.
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So, you're the first one whose Solution worked, now I did install Soundabout, it said Pro features will work for free for a trial period of first 2 days then you would know if it works enough for you so you can buy it or not, it worked right away after installing the app and restarting the phone (Very Important Step), but I'm hoping I don't need to have the PRo features to have this issue fixed
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So, you're the first one whose Solution worked, now I did install Soundabout, it said Pro features will work for free for a trial period of first 2 days then you would know if it works enough for you so you can buy it or not, it worked right away after installing the app and restarting the phone (Very Important Step), but I'm hoping I don't need to have the PRo features to have this issue fixed
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Glad it worked..... Sorry, should have mentioned that I was using the pro version. The real reason why I use Soundabout is that I connect my phone to car via Bluetooth and I also physically plug in my phone (via the 3.5mm headphone) to the Aux input of my car (I am just not a fan of Bluetooth audio quality). Soundabout was the only program at the time that would still be able to answer calls via Bluetooth while using the headphone jack as a physical audio out (this was my S2 days as).

MIX as primary device since November. Thoughts.

Coming from an LG G Flex 2 (hailed a failure amongst devs for the device, but mine ran stable and smoothly all the time just by following the stickies here; IMO original G Flex showed so much potential ). Running global 6.12.8, with some xposed tweaks. I haven't touched a thing since I got that setup. I run the device continuously, with no reboots, and its respectably stable at any given moment. Let me know I'm missing out on anything huge by letting the weeklies go by.
The screen size upgrade was much appreciated - I have big hands, I can Swype reasonably fast using the thumb of the hand I'm holding the phone with. Heft and size plus added reach make two hand usage more comfortable, nonetheless.
Screen itself is absolutely stunning (and tbh, I've never really qualitatively observed any quality problems with 1080p on mobile devices); colors are brilliant.
TLDR: The display is enjoyable to look at
No need for a stylus here. I once rocked an iPad mini as a full fledged phone using GV voice (when it was so simple), and had a stylus for that. Carried that for a while during undergrad. Never cared for styluses since.
Phone camera does what phone cameras do. I'm no expert in cameras (well kinda - Optics PhD student), so I choose not to count too much on the numbers/specs provided. I get good shots that contain all of the information necessary in a phone camera image.
I cheated a bit. I use Nova Launcher. Have settings locked down to a science since LG launcher fail in the original Flex.
No complaints. Everything is quick and fluid. I also have a neat trick that enables knock ON/OFF, so the phone behaves itself and gets locked (one way or another).
The softkeys and accessibility button provide more than enough shortcuts to do whatever you need to do is. Fingerprint sensor is right where it should be, and recognizes my fingers at any given time.
I have a Google voice number, so I switched my default dialer and incoming call receiver to Hangouts dialer. NO COMPLAINTS. I used the regular phone app to make calls plenty before I realized I wasn't actually dialing out through GV (MIUI issue, afaik). VOIP sounds better through the phone's screenspeaker than does a traditional voice call. My carrier tallies my data usage to a ridiculously low number every month, so I don't think VOIP phone causes trouble.
Battery life is a must for me. I'm OCD perfect with battery management of my devices, but I need to know I can take my phone to work every day a and use it for lots of real stuff and/or leisure. 8-9 hours of work a day sets me back to the realm of ~65% battery life. I could come home and play nintendo DS on 400% speed for hours on that kind of juice. 4400 mAh was a major selling point for me, and that's paid off.
Speaker quality is surprisingly good for what the speakers look like sitting there at the bottom.
Once you've rooted and used Lucky Patcher to block ads, you've got one smooth, slick, stone to carry around that will not fail you; cavemen would be very jealous.
Concerns:
Dropping. The case provided makes for a really nice grip. I have never once almost dropped the phone. It's slid out of my pocket once, but short fall = no damage.
Features I miss:
IR blaster. I love them. They make owning entertainment centers even lazier.
Not much else.
Thanks for your impressions. I ordered mine from Light in the Box two weeks ago, and am (im)patiently awaiting.
Quick question on MIUI; I started with Samsung phones, then had a Nexus 6, so full Android all the way. Do you feel like there's a learning curve, getting around MIUI? I love tech, but don't like change too much; I'd love to get this phone working as close to AOSP as possible.
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Thanks for your impressions. I ordered mine from Light in the Box two weeks ago, and am (im)patiently awaiting.
Quick question on MIUI; I started with Samsung phones, then had a Nexus 6, so full Android all the way. Do you feel like there's a learning curve, getting around MIUI? I love tech, but don't like change too much; I'd love to get this phone working as close to AOSP as possible.
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Kinda why I opted for a Launcher I was familiar with (it's MIUI themed though, so I get points for trying). I've never found there to be more of a different learning curve from one Android device to another. You figure out what your device can and can't do, you set up your shortcuts, gestures, other personal accessibility options, and then you use it. When you find something about it you don't like, you fix it.
I could give you an enormous list of XPosed tweaks and small things here and there that I've changed, but that might not do you any good because it's personalized to me.
Good to know, thanks. I haven't played around with MIUI yet, so wasn't sure just how different it might be. Xposed on the other hand; that was my bread and butter on my Note 3 and Nexus. That'll go a long ways.
Thanks!
No calls on Verizon.
I have date and text working, no voice calls going thru. Have updated the apn as per the site here. What am I missing. Would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
bigcc32 said:
Coming from an LG G Flex 2 (hailed a failure amongst devs for the device, but mine ran stable and smoothly all the time just by following the stickies here; IMO original G Flex showed so much potential ). Running global 6.12.8, with some xposed tweaks. I haven't touched a thing since I got that setup. I run the device continuously, with no reboots, and its respectably stable at any given moment. Let me know I'm missing out on anything huge by letting the weeklies go by.
The screen size upgrade was much appreciated - I have big hands, I can Swype reasonably fast using the thumb of the hand I'm holding the phone with. Heft and size plus added reach make two hand usage more comfortable, nonetheless.
Screen itself is absolutely stunning (and tbh, I've never really qualitatively observed any quality problems with 1080p on mobile devices); colors are brilliant.
TLDR: The display is enjoyable to look at
No need for a stylus here. I once rocked an iPad mini as a full fledged phone using GV voice (when it was so simple), and had a stylus for that. Carried that for a while during undergrad. Never cared for styluses since.
Phone camera does what phone cameras do. I'm no expert in cameras (well kinda - Optics PhD student), so I choose not to count too much on the numbers/specs provided. I get good shots that contain all of the information necessary in a phone camera image.
I cheated a bit. I use Nova Launcher. Have settings locked down to a science since LG launcher fail in the original Flex.
No complaints. Everything is quick and fluid. I also have a neat trick that enables knock ON/OFF, so the phone behaves itself and gets locked (one way or another).
The softkeys and accessibility button provide more than enough shortcuts to do whatever you need to do is. Fingerprint sensor is right where it should be, and recognizes my fingers at any given time.
I have a Google voice number, so I switched my default dialer and incoming call receiver to Hangouts dialer. NO COMPLAINTS. I used the regular phone app to make calls plenty before I realized I wasn't actually dialing out through GV (MIUI issue, afaik). VOIP sounds better through the phone's screenspeaker than does a traditional voice call. My carrier tallies my data usage to a ridiculously low number every month, so I don't think VOIP phone causes trouble.
Battery life is a must for me. I'm OCD perfect with battery management of my devices, but I need to know I can take my phone to work every day a and use it for lots of real stuff and/or leisure. 8-9 hours of work a day sets me back to the realm of ~65% battery life. I could come home and play nintendo DS on 400% speed for hours on that kind of juice. 4400 mAh was a major selling point for me, and that's paid off.
Speaker quality is surprisingly good for what the speakers look like sitting there at the bottom.
Once you've rooted and used Lucky Patcher to block ads, you've got one smooth, slick, stone to carry around that will not fail you; cavemen would be very jealous.
Concerns:
Dropping. The case provided makes for a really nice grip. I have never once almost dropped the phone. It's slid out of my pocket once, but short fall = no damage.
Features I miss:
IR blaster. I love them. They make owning entertainment centers even lazier.
Not much else.
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Pointmanipo said:
I have date and text working, no voice calls going thru. Have updated the apn as per the site here. What am I missing. Would appreciate any help.
Thank you.
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Unfortunately I've never messed with CDMA networks (Verizon is still considered CDMA, right?); my cell service has always been GSM based.
I use Hangouts to handle all of my phone calls now, mainly because I did have a few issues getting Google Voice to play nice with MIUI, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. I'd suggest making a new thread - increasing your chances of getting the answer you're looking for (it is a legitimate issue, so it's worthy of a new thread).
bigcc32 said:
Unfortunately I've never messed with CDMA networks (Verizon is still considered CDMA, right?); my cell service has always been GSM based.
I use Hangouts to handle all of my phone calls now, mainly because I did have a few issues getting Google Voice to play nice with MIUI, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. I'd suggest making a new thread - increasing your chances of getting the answer you're looking for (it is a legitimate issue, so it's worthy of a new thread).
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Yes thank you for your reply.
Love mine as a daily driver too, have had it since January or so. Got a transparent tpu case for grip and off i went. I have everything working data wise and software wise, even got my Samsung gear s2 to sync up and run well.
Nicolfa said:
Love mine as a daily driver too, have had it since January or so. Got a transparent tpu case for grip and off i went. I have everything working data wise and software wise, even got my Samsung gear s2 to sync up and run well.
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Many have reported that due to the case, the piezoelectric speaker doesnt work as intended giving a very low volume during calls, could you comment on your experience while making or receiving calls with ur tpu case on? is it that low? or perhaps you dont notice cos use earphones or bluetooth earphones??
Please if you could be detailed it would be much appreciated.
Calls and volume have been fine as long as your holding the headset like a phone and not at odd angles or other methods I've seen people do when talking on the a cell phone.
mp3elv said:
Many have reported that due to the case, the piezoelectric speaker doesnt work as intended giving a very low volume during calls, could you comment on your experience while making or receiving calls with ur tpu case on? is it that low? or perhaps you dont notice cos use earphones or bluetooth earphones??
Please if you could be detailed it would be much appreciated.
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Again, I use hangouts for all my voice calls, and it seems as though Hangouts has a significant volume boost over the standard phone app.
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Again, I use hangouts for all my voice calls, and it seems as though Hangouts has a significant volume boost over the standard phone app.
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do u use a case on your phone? a tempered glass? or just naked, it seems these addons affect the sound from the piezoelectric device
mp3elv said:
Many have reported that due to the case, the piezoelectric speaker doesnt work as intended giving a very low volume during calls, could you comment on your experience while making or receiving calls with ur tpu case on? is it that low? or perhaps you dont notice cos use earphones or bluetooth earphones??
Please if you could be detailed it would be much appreciated.
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do u use a case on your phone? a tempered glass? or just naked, it seems these addons affect the sound from the piezoelectric device
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Got a tempered glass screen protector on right now. I haven't noticed any degradation of call quality.
Had mine since november and absolutely LOVE it. I have treated it so carefully, and yet I managed to bring it out with me while partying saturday. Got drunk which I rarely do these days and smashed it in the pavement. I immediately ordered another one. It simply cannot get here soon enough.
I have been using my Mix as a daily driver for a month now running Epic ROM. Glass screen protector and case and no problem with quality of sound. Probably the best phone I have ever used(been using Nexus 6, OPO and OP2 before). When I will miss stock Android I will flash RR or Lineage OS. But for the time I like something different and EPIC Rom (MIUI ) is good for a change.
benziii said:
Had mine since november and absolutely LOVE it. I have treated it so carefully, and yet I managed to bring it out with me while partying saturday. Got drunk which I rarely do these days and smashed it in the pavement. I immediately ordered another one. It simply cannot get here soon enough.
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Sorry to hear about that.
Are you getting a better price this time?
IDK what you paid previously,but, I'd imagine pricing is a little bit better than when it first became available.....
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Sorry to hear about that.
Are you getting a better price this time?
IDK what you paid previously,but, I'd imagine pricing is a little bit better than when it first became available.....
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Paid 780$ last time (4/128). This time around 620$ (6/256). Could probably look around for an even better offer, but I was still buzzed and freakin out hehe.
Got mine today (6/256);
I need to agree with 1 simple fact; pictures & videos are not able to do this device justice. I can safely say that this is THE most premium (excluding the likes of Vertu) device I held.
Amazing. (but slippery AF).
I just finished setting it up with my apps & will report usage after a while.
All in all, apps run super smooth.
The only issue I encountered till now, is the slow transfer speed via USB. I get 2x-3x higher speeds on the same PC with my other devices.
I need to isolate the issue - whether it's the cable, or the handset itself.
#EDIT 2017-05-05
- Still need to underline how slippery it is ;]
- call volume is quite low, even on the highest settings
- the USB cable is thin, so I am expecting needing to buy a replacement after a short time
It has rendered my laptop as useless, haven't turned it on since owning the mix just don't need it with this screen size.

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