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loudspeaker... Good?

Hello.
Ive just ordered a HD2.
But i would like to know what the sound quality is like when using the loudspeaker in the phone.
I currently got a hd1.. and that phone sounds... not too good.
Anyone could maby make a video of it or something?
THanks

The loudspeaker is unusable unless you're in a loud environment, it is like a megaphone even on the lowest volume setting.

Hi Hargibi,
The loudspeaker on my phone is loud and the quality and sound outputs are acceptable.
Does exactly what it says on the tin ie LOUD.......SPEAKER for environments where you need to use it.
Obviously in circumstances where you don't need the loudspeaker you would switch it off?
WB

wacky.banana said:
Hi Hargibi,
The loudspeaker on my phone is loud and the quality and sound outputs are acceptable.
Does exactly what it says on the tin ie LOUD.......SPEAKER for environments where you need to use it.
Obviously in circumstances where you don't need the loudspeaker you would switch it off?
WB
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I have always used my speakerphone function on previous handsets to allay fears over radiation at the ear etc....I would hold the phone in my hand at breast height and conduct my calls like that, not whilst out and about of course. The HD2 has unfeasibly loud volume though (even at the lowest setting) and I just can't use it in a quiet environment - precisely the environment I would have used the feature previously. Stop defending it mate when it's obviously a problem. No other phone has anywhere approaching this volume, so are they all 'broken' and the HD2 is perfect?

Sunking,
Not defending it mate, just telling it as it is, from my perspective
WB

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Sunking,
Not defending it mate, just telling it as it is, from my perspective
WB
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Other than for using sat nav in the noisiest open-top Landrover, when would you ever need a LOUD speakerphone function though? I don't have a problem with the speakerphone being able to go loud, turn it up, that's fine! I just wish the volume control went (much) lower. I find the settings bizarre.

I use mine in large conference rooms where there's a load of us listening in. I'm afraid I don't have an open top Landrover.
As I said to you in another thread somewhere on here, you and this phone don't get on, which is a shame. However one size does not fit all so your decision to sell and move on is a good one, I think.
Don't want to take this thread off topic as its not fair on the OP, but what do you intend to buy now?
To the OP, there is a poll on here somewhere that gives an indication of how many people think the loudspeaker is good versus bad. Try and find it if you can, it makes interesting reading....
WB

Sounds good. will recive it in 2 days

wacky.banana said:
I use mine in large conference rooms where there's a load of us listening in. I'm afraid I don't have an open top Landrover.
As I said to you in another thread somewhere on here, you and this phone don't get on, which is a shame. However one size does not fit all so your decision to sell and move on is a good one, I think.
Don't want to take this thread off topic as its not fair on the OP, but what do you intend to buy now?
To the OP, there is a poll on here somewhere that gives an indication of how many people think the loudspeaker is good versus bad. Try and find it if you can, it makes interesting reading....
WB
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I dunno mate, the HD2 was the one for me and I waited impatiently for it! Now I don't know what to get....

Compared to N95 8GB and HD how is it? I just ordered mine from Amazon, was confused between HD2 and N900

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Compared to N95 8GB and HD how is it? I just ordered mine from Amazon, was confused between HD2 and N900
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What do you want to know, how loud does the speakerphone go, how good is it with music, does it crackle and distort etc? I'll tell you now though, the N95 has wayyyy better speakers than the HD2. What the HD2 specialises in is LOUDNESS.

sunking101 said:
What do you want to know, how loud does the speakerphone go, how good is it with music, does it crackle and distort etc? I'll tell you now though, the N95 has wayyyy better speakers than the HD2. What the HD2 specialises in is LOUDNESS.
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So basically it's amazingly loud but the sound gets distorted ?
I wanna know specifically about playing music on the loudspeaker

Speakerphone?

mine sounds like ****
I literally have to lower the volume for it to sound descent
now this realy pisses me off, its a $580 dollar device and the speakerphone sucks
whats weird is that it only sucks on speakerphone, because it rings and plays music fine. its only the speakerphone
can anyone test theirs and lmk how it sounds?

Yes, the speaker phone is horrible. When listening music is barely okay, but when on phone call with it...it's a nightmare!

Carnt they fix it with a software update?

Mine sounds ok depending on the person on the other end, my parents landline sounded fine but my friends cell sounded pretty distorted.

Yeah the speaker phone is pretty shocking...I was surprised. How do these things get past the product testing phase!!

firerock said:
Yes, the speaker phone is horrible. When listening music is barely okay, but when on phone call with it...it's a nightmare!
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i agree. for music its ok, for phone call its junk.

mwitha said:
Yeah the speaker phone is pretty shocking...I was surprised. How do these things get past the product testing phase!!
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i dont think there was a testing phase for N1. Us buying the phones for $530+ is the testing phase.

so can we contact HTC and complain?
I really need the speakerphone and quite frankly am embarassed to use it. someguy started laughing at me when he heard it lol

Z51 said:
so can we contact HTC and complain?
I really need the speakerphone and quite frankly am embarassed to use it. someguy started laughing at me when he heard it lol
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call and complain.....i doubt it will help. but if you have time, i would still call.

Speakerphone sounds bad. Distorted at max volume and as you turn it down it becomes too quite to be useful during driving.

thats what im saying, you guys think an update will fix it?

Z51 said:
thats what im saying, you guys think an update will fix it?
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the HTC HD2 had the exact same problem horrible speakerphone..
this is why I am going to go with the xperia x10 its all about build quality something I cam to expect from Sony E unlike my experience with HD2 crap camera crap speaker phone and now the Nexus one is plagued with problems....
lucky I come on here and read the problems I was O so close to buying one !

I have a few htc phones and listened to a few more, they all sound bad.
To me it's typical and expected.
If you priorities are speaker and music without BT or headphones HTC isn't the way to go.

the g1 I had sounds good,just not this piece of ****

Low ring volume?

Is it just me, or does the Nexus One seem to have a somewhat low ring volume?
When some one calls me, or I get a text message or new e-mail or any other notification of some sort I'm barley able to hear it when I'm at work?
Tried to crank the notification and ring volume to the maximum, but it's still way lower than what I'm used to with every other phone I've had before?
If I dare compare it to when I used my iPhone 3G at work, I had the volume set to about 70% and I was still able to hear it loud and clear every single time?

RamGuy said:
Is it just me, or does the Nexus One seem to have a somewhat low ring volume?
When some one calls me, or I get a text message or new e-mail or any other notification of some sort I'm barley able to hear it when I'm at work?
Tried to crank the notification and ring volume to the maximum, but it's still way lower than what I'm used to with every other phone I've had before?
If I dare compare it to when I used my iPhone 3G at work, I had the volume set to about 70% and I was still able to hear it loud and clear every single time?
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I have the complete opposite experience with my phone; I have to keep the volume at around 40% in order for it to be remotely acceptable volume in the workplace. At full volume every call and notification is so loud that I am almost embarrassed for drawing the attention of everyone remotely close to me.
The speaker is not of the highest quality, in my opinion, but it is damn loud.
I don't know of any secret options that affect ringtone volume, so I am curious to hear other people's testimonies to see if there is a widespread difference.

I agree with the opening post, my Nexus One is too damn quiet, I've missed loads of call and text message notifications. Mind you, I do tend to keep my phone in it's sleeve, so that is obviously a contributing factor, but even outside of the sleeve the speaker is really quiet.
I had a Nokia 5800 previously, which had exceptional speakers - loud and very good sound quality, so maybe it's just that I'm used to something a lot louder.
Although, my only other HTC experience was the Touch Pro (which I hated with an unholy passion), and the speakers on that were really crap too.

I also agree with OP. It is really low for me even at max volume i miss a lot of texts and some calls. I do keep the phone in my pants but with my previous phones was way louder.

It's lower volume than I was use to with other devices. Not sure if there is a way to pump it up some?

I've noticed that some of the ringtones are much more audible than others. Cricket, for example, "carries" pretty well, as a sound. I'm guessing you've tried them all though, if you're not happy with the volume.
FWIW, for various notifications, I have Cricket, Captain's Log and Pizzicato in use, all of which seemed fairly audible to me. For sure more so than the default one.
Going through them again now, I'm wondering if some of the other notifications haven't been made a bit louder/more shrill in today's update. Damn updates. Make me imagine all kinds of things have changed
My workplace is a lab, so it's pretty quiet. I might well have complaints about the volume if I worked in a noisier place. And I honestly don't receive a bunch of calls on it, just emails and SMS.

Rediculously Quiet
Well I’m a bit of a gadget nut, and own pretty much every top phone on the market. Huge fan of this phone but the ring volume is pretty much a killer. At maximum volume its way less than any phone I have at 50% volume. I miss calls all the time and therefore have dropped it as my goto phone. What purpose does a phone have if you can’t hear it ring. Seems crazy to me that all my other WM HTC phones are acceptable or crazy loud. Just to hear my phone in my pocket I have had to make a MP3 ring tone mixing it at max volume, that was my only solution but it’s still not loud enough and now the speaker begins to distort and crackle the sound, making me think there will be no soft fix for this.
Huge Disappointment

That's the main reason I want to get a Desire rather than N1

vegetaleb said:
That's the main reason I want to get a Desire rather than N1
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And you heard Desire ring tone?

vegetaleb said:
That's the main reason I want to get a Desire rather than N1
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I highly doubt the Desire would fix any of these issues. It's the same phone essentially.
Uhh. I usually keep my Milestone at 1 notch from bottom and I can hear it clearly. Today I missed 3 calls on my N1 with it 1 notch from the bottom. I later realized I probably need it around 50-60% volume to hear it well for a near 100% catch rate. Forget noisy places like the subway. If I put my Milestone at 50-60%, it'll rock my office.
I've gone through an iPhone 3GS, Nokia N82, Moto Milestone, and the N1 ranks dead LAST in terms of ring volume. That speakerphone is just terrible. 40-50% on the N1 can't even compare to a Droid at like 20% or so.
The same goes with the Earpiece. I can make calls perfectly fine at 10-20% on my Milestone whereas I gotta crank up to 80% or so on my N1. Unacceptable.

Some people reported a significant raise in volume when using Desire ROM on N1 and if you look at the Desire pics you will notice that the speaker openings are larger than the 3mm one of N1

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Some people reported a significant raise in volume when using Desire ROM on N1 and if you look at the Desire pics you will notice that the speaker openings are larger than the 3mm one of N1
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That would be good =) maybe I should ask some people about this more. The voice on the N1 also sounds very tiny through the earpiece (you know like when you turn your volume way too high on earbuds and the sound leaks out?). The Milestone seems more stereo and filling as if I'm in a room carrying out a normal conversation. I hope the Desire can address these issues.

See what I mean on the attached pics?
Also perhaps google asked HTC to do it quiet for safety reasons, the Legend which is the little brother of the Desire has a very loud volume...

I would think it has to be very high on the hardware development importance list to include a decent speaker especially with many using these phones in conference call situations these days. This volume on the Nexus phone seems crazy low and indeed we are throwing conspiracy theories out there but HTC are going to sell the Desire, the exact same machine (little less cool and with that weird touch nav) out onto the market right in Google's face for 200$ more! My bet is yes the hardware on this Desire is the grade 'A' stuff including the speaker.
Please let there be some kind of code fix for the Nexus 1,
Anyone had any experience with the Desire Rom on Nexus 1 regarding volume increase?

Someone on the Android Help forum said that the loudspeaker is programmed to output 75% of its maximum volume. Can someone verify that?

jsoverson said:
I don't know of any secret options that affect ringtone volume, so I am curious to hear other people's testimonies to see if there is a widespread difference.
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Just convert the ringtone file using any converter and maximize the volume in settings... I tried it once with TVC but the sound became distorted

NexusDro said:
Someone on the Android Help forum said that the loudspeaker is programmed to output 75% of its maximum volume. Can someone verify that?
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I'm not sure where someone got that from.
I've been searching through the Nexus source and, as far as i can tell, the audio is all controlled via the kernel and nothing else, volume wise anyway. I'm not sure why Google changed HTCs method (which was easy as hell to hack) but they've definitely removed it.

how do we open the kernel to get to these sound files, if someone walks me through it, i will hack the files, i dont care about htc copyright, i want a phone i can hear ringing.
PM me if you want me to, and i wont upload any copyright stuff here, i will host the file somewhere else ehhhm rapid shares cough cough

Sleeve trick
If you guys are using the sleeve this might help a lot (it does for me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641995&highlight=sleeve+trick

Blaiz said:
HTC are going to sell the Desire, the exact same machine (little less cool and with that weird touch nav) out onto the market right in Google's face for 200$ more! My bet is yes the hardware on this Desire is the grade 'A' stuff including the speaker.
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You mean the Desire will be 100$ less, at least in Europe and Asia

Noise on earphone output

Hi!
I have i9100 phone and it is amazing, but i have a problem with earphone output.
I try it with original earphone and Sennheiser too, when it pluged, no music just surf in menu i can hear quiet noise. The noise is louder when i tap an icon and after that it fade.
In my opinion the music quality is not so good.
Have anybody the same noise?

Yep, I've got the same quiet noise on mine aswell. Also had it on my previous 4 Galaxy SII's. You need good ears to catch it, and it needs to be pretty much silent in the room youre in to be able to hear it.
Just got to live with it unfortunately.

drm111 said:
Yep, I've got the same quiet noise on mine aswell. Also had it on my previous 4 Galaxy SII's. You need good ears to catch it, and it needs to be pretty much silent in the room youre in to be able to hear it.
Just got to live with it unfortunately.
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same here - think this has to do with weak em shielding...
maybee supercurio can do something about that, but if it's really related to poor
shielding i fear this would not be possible!

Oh, that is not a good thing.

I agree, but it's by no means limited to the SGS2. Nearly every computer I've used (including Macs) have some sort of interference when doing CPU intensive work.

There's a long thread discussing this. A couple of us with high-end headsets got different results. I have Shure 530s and hear no side noise from the phone while idling or listening to music. Someone with the exact same headset does. No one knows why.

David Horn said:
I agree, but it's by no means limited to the SGS2. Nearly every computer I've used (including Macs) have some sort of interference when doing CPU intensive work.
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That's why I always use a discrete souns card... I usually have this problem with integrated audio.
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Speaker frequency response limited, very limited!

I'm wondering if my phone is defective!
All of my previous phones from iphones, android, etc. have always been able to produce high frequency sounds from their internal speakers. To 20KHz and beyond. I was shocked to find that this phone can't, even 15K, 12K, even 10K falls silent from the speaker! At 15KHz at full volume there is strange distortion like hissing and a buzzing sound. App used is free from play store, called function generator. This is actually quite important to be able to generate these tones and a deal breaker for me!
Try it once and tell me the results. Most good ears can hear 15K, it's close the whine of an old CRT TV set. And 10K, uck that should be heard by anyone under 60 or so, very annoyingly loud. I hope this is just a fluke, going to pair to my jambox, try headphones, etc.
The speaker itself sounds pretty decent for the phone function and gets plenty loud.
One thing I did notice is the lack of "fuzzy" sound on visual voice mail which could be a clue to a sharp high frequency roll off as these artifacts are in the higher frequency range. Just as if you fry a tweeter on a two way system and all you're left with is a woofer, going to be rather dull, even muffled!

My phone is able to produce those high frequency sounds so it sounds (no pun intended) like you have a hardware issue.
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My phone is able to produce those high frequency sounds so it sounds (no pun intended) like you have a hardware issue.
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Thanks for checking, it appears this is somewhat of a false alarm! The hardware seems OK as I can use other apps that can generate this signal and it works fine. The function generator app (downloaded again) is just broken with the S4.
This phone will keep the app devs busy it seems.