I've moved up from a G1 rooted to the MT4G, so I've always had apps2sd. It's just a necessity with the limited space.
My question is on the MT4G, since we have 1GB of internal space, do I really even need to move any apps to SD? What would be the pros and cons of moving apps to SD on this phone?
Right now, I'm still stock, not rooted, with 96 apps installed and I still have 850+ mb internal space.
nmw407 said:
I've moved up from a G1 rooted to the MT4G, so I've always had apps2sd. It's just a necessity with the limited space.
My question is on the MT4G, since we have 1GB of internal space, do I really even need to move any apps to SD? What would be the pros and cons of moving apps to SD on this phone?
Right now, I'm still stock, not rooted, with 96 apps installed and I still have 850+ mb internal space.
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I'd say don't go for it. See my sig; I'm also leaving behind my G1 where yes, it was definitely a necessity. However, even with a C6 SD card, things were noticeably slower off the SD vs internal storage. It's just not worth the performance hit right now when you have ample internal storage.
I dont see a reason to move them with a 1gb of space, that will be increased once devs figure out how to unlock the partition.
I had 2 on my N1 with only about 150mb to play with
cool. I wondered about that. I just moved everything that got installed on SD back to phone.
no a2sd until i run out of space for apps.....which i dont see happening for myself.
aagvain said:
no a2sd until i run out of space for apps.....which i dont see happening for myself.
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Yeah... a gig is really a crap-ton of space for apps like these... maybe when apps get huge after gingerbread, there may be a use for moving some less used / less critical apps.
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Sprint HTC Hero (Google Branded)
Fresh Rom 1.0 with De-Fresh and Nexus One Boot screen
Recovery 1.5.2
8GB SD Card (96mb Swap, 1024 ext3, 6736mb fat32)
I had around 122mb of free space after installing Fresh rom, after a while it dropped to 120mb. I tested to see what was on the SD Card and all of my apps were on the SD card but nothing else so I moved everything I could like dalvik cache, apps-private, /data, /data/data, etc. After moving everything to my SD Card I removed it from the phone and after removing everything from the phone I had around 144mb free space. I rebooted my phone I had 122mb again! Woke up this morning and had 120mb of free space. Is there anything that could be causing this? Any tips on how to free up internal memory?
Thanks.
why would you need more than 122mb free memory?
Nothing to worry about but if you get below 50mb then I might start to worry.
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so I moved everything I could like dalvik cache, apps-private, /data, /data/data, etc. After moving everything to my SD Card I removed it from the phone and after removing everything from the phone I had around 144mb free space. I rebooted my phone I had 122mb again! Woke up this morning and had 120mb of free space. Is there anything that could be causing this? Any tips on how to free up internal memory?
Thanks.
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What do you mean you moved it? You can't just move dalvik-cache and boot-cache. They will just rebuild themselves after you reboot. Like others said, you have a ton of free space.
Thanks for the quick replies everyone. I was just wondering since my friend's Eris showed 144mb completely stock with about 8 apps. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. Any suggestions for making the Hero run faster?
wcgbmd said:
Thanks for the quick replies everyone. I was just wondering since my friend's Eris showed 144mb completely stock with about 8 apps. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. Any suggestions for making the Hero run faster?
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i believe the eris has more memory than the hero, i know it comes with a better battery also. but with apps2sd you don't need to worry about free internal memory (it isn't RAM) so it won't help the speed of the phone. that's just for app/data storage.
edit: the eris also comes with a 8gb sd card, compared to our 2gb
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i believe the eris has more memory than the hero, i know it comes with a better battery also. but with apps2sd you don't need to worry about free internal memory (it isn't RAM) so it won't help the speed of the phone. that's just for app/data storage.
edit: the eris also comes with a 8gb sd card, compared to our 2gb
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i thought the eris came with a 1350ma battery and sprint hero got the 1500ma battey
702DROID said:
i thought the eris came with a 1350ma battery and sprint hero got the 1500ma battey
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you're right! i looked up on the htc site and for sure i stand corrected.
i misunderstood this post i read a few weeks back...
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They do have a 1550mah for the GSM Hero oddly enough.
I have seen reviews for the Seido battery which is like 1750mah and some people where saying they were getting another 3 hours of use out of it. Then again when paired with the Eris people were getting almost an extra half days use out it(we are stuck with like a 1300mah battery).
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i just figured out when i read it again this guy has a eris. i feel stupid
Someone told me the Nexus One doesn't need apps2sd. I'm curious why they said that. Is it because it works that way automatically or are they just saying that because of the extra RAM and ROM?
The nexus one has 512 megs of rom. Tons of room for apps at this point there just really isn't much need for apps2sd since there is so much room. Also native ROM storage is probably faster then SD access.
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The nexus one has 512 megs of rom. Tons of room for apps at this point there just really isn't much need for apps2sd since there is so much room. Also native ROM storage is probably faster then SD access.
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Also I'm pretty sure Google said they were working on encrypting apps so you could store them on your SD card in the future
I installed all my apps that I normally use, plus a few others, and I have 130MB+ left in storage. My G1 started with around 70MB free depending on which ROM I used. I had a 512MB partition (formatted to around 500MB) and usually had close to 400MB free with my apps on it. I think we'll be fine for a bit, but when really, REALLY nice games come along to take advantage of the phone's power, we'll need microSDHC storage.
I have been using Cyan's rom for quite some time now and am absolutely pleased with his work! But as we all know none of Cyan's rom for the N1, the latest being 5.0.2 at the time of this writing, have app2sd support out of the box.
So begs the question for N1 owners running Cyan's ROM, Are you running Apps2sd?
I'm not planning to use Apps2SD.
Simple because when I had my G1, I was new to Android™ and apps and shtuff.
Now that I've upgraded to the N1, I now know what apps I like, what review sites to trust, which developers to trust, which types of apps I need/want.
I currently use about 5-7 apps daily that I've purchased.
I doubt I will ever have more than a dozen or so installed, even with trial usage of free apps.
Unless something super AMAZING comes out that I gotta try/have/buy.
Well, I become nervous when I see the internal storage has only 196MB so I decided to go for app2SD with my 16GB class 6 microSDHC card...
I also wish to have apps2sd installed as my disk space getting low. I have actually quite a lot of games waiting to be installed but sad I can't yet. Was thinking waiting for Google to provide native SD card apps install support. - I really hope it will happen soon.
No, I have no need for it.
I only have a handful of apps installed. If I want to play something more taxing than Solitaire or Robot Defender I'll fire up my PS3...
Ditto. I've never gotten into handheld gaming. I'd rather load up Crysis on the PC.
I don't do much gaming either, but why use the phone memory when the SD card is available?
Also it helps when changing ROM's as all my Ext3 apps appear without reloading.
So yes I'm using it and it's great 224 apps installed and 24Mb of my 196Mb used
200mb's is plenty for me. I got a TON of apps installed and still have 100mbs free. So no need for Apps2SD, which also will slow down ur phone a little.
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200mb's is plenty for me. I got a TON of apps installed and still have 100mbs free. So no need for Apps2SD, which also will slow down ur phone a little.
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Ditto. Slower start time = no thanks.
I haven't really seen these huge games. I have and play:
Radiant - 5.36MB
Totemo - 3.82MB
Haven't really found anything else on the market that was worth paying for.
I also have everything I feel like I need, and still have 140MB FREE (extra 40 from Cyanogen) of storage on my phone (out of 196MB).
the only reason i use APPS2SD is when i flash new roms or do wipes, my EXT partition is still saved. So when i install/test any new room, apps2sd is enabled and i will have all my apps right where i left them.
I've seen a lot of info about the overall feel of the Galaxy S being a bit sluggish in various ways, and it looks to be due to Samsung not storing all the apps & such it comes with in NAND memory but rather on the SD card, which is slower.
My question is, has anyone tried sticking a Sandisk Ultra memory card (or one of the few other existing 'superfast' memory cards) in the Galaxy S to see if that helps the overall performance/responsiveness in any noticeable way? I don't know if this would even help, since it may not help response times to the cards and that's probably where the performance increase is coming from when storing the stuff on the NAND memory rather than higher data transfer rates via a good micro SDHC card.
Just thought I'd ask.
As far as I am aware you can't change the internal SD card. The external SD card is the one you can replace, and you can't install to that one yet until Froyo (or you root it)
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As far as I am aware you can't change the internal SD card. The external SD card is the one you can replace, and you can't install to that one yet until Froyo (or you root it)
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I was assuming root
There is a great thread at Modaco about this.
The app data is stored on the internal memory card which is slow.
When you have root you can sym link it back to nand memory and my phone is now lightning fast.
Russ
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can you sym link it to the external sd instead? would it be fast enough? what would happen if the external sd was mounted to the pc?
RussST24 said:
There is a great thread at Modaco about this.
The app data is stored on the internal memory card which is slow.
When you have root you can sym link it back to nand memory and my phone is now lightning fast.
Russ
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ive never really had much of a problem....
I'm just wondering as this does not seem to be a topic written about much.
For example, this thread details how to do it based on another rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
But, this would be doable on a rom such as Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 I presume?
One obvious benefit would be to have more internal memory to be used for apps or whatnot, but does it benefit with making the system feel a bit faster or speedier, or anything of the sort?
Thanks for any info you provide.
Android 17 said:
I'm just wondering as this does not seem to be a topic written about much.
For example, this thread details how to do it based on another rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
But, this would be doable on a rom such as Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 I presume?
One obvious benefit would be to have more internal memory to be used for apps or whatnot, but does it benefit with making the system feel a bit faster or speedier, or anything of the sort?
Thanks for any info you provide.
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The problem with doing that is it usually causes a performance loss.
Unless you have a high class card.
I have a class 6 SD card, I read that using a 4 or higher is recommended, so perhaps it would be fine in my case? I certainly wouldn't try it with the included card, that's only a class 2.
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I have a class 6 SD card, I read that using a 4 or higher is recommended, so perhaps it would be fine in my case? I certainly wouldn't try it with the included card, that's only a class 2.
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Class 6 may be fast enough to do it.
You're welcome to try it and see what the result is.
I certainly wouldn't try it with any slower of a card though.
Anyone have any experience doing so, or encountered any positives or negatives of attempting to do so?
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Anyone have any experience doing so, or encountered any positives or negatives of attempting to do so?
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I've done it to free up space. I've got about 230 apps/installed widgets and moving the davlik was the only way to reclaim my space. Works fine. Has slowed my phone but is acceptable (Class 2 32g card). I do have to say though that at this moment I'm in the process of replacing my microsd with a 32g class 10 card to speed things up a bit.