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WTF is up with the EVO battery!

first off, i love this phone. no joke, but the battery is well...laughable to say the least. on my HD2 running android, i get double the battery life and they HD2's battery is a 1200 battery, the EVO'S is a 1500. and android boots off the SD CARD and has NO POWER MANAGEMENT on HD2'S. my evo dropped to 54 percent battery today in 3.5 hours. no wifi, no bluetooth, no GPS and no 4G...all im saying is... WHAT THE ****!

It gets better. Load up some custom kernals + setcpu and you'll get great life. I'm running CM6 + snap 8.2 and it lasts the whole day with moderate use.
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There is plenty of info on battery issues with EVO.
First... I would recommend rooting.
Second, use the FRESH build based off the new OTA leak.
Finally, change Settings / Mobile Networks / [uncheck] Enable Always-on
Then... ALWAYS keep your WiFi radio on. Add your home network if you have one... and wherever you go, add whatever hotspots you are in proximity of.
And if you ever consider doing a new build, backup your WiFi access point data via Titanium Backup before you do.
That should just about cover it... You will get a full day of use PLUS some out of that battery.

Award Tour said:
It gets better. Load up some custom kernals + setcpu and you'll get great life. I'm running CM6 + snap 8.2 and it lasts the whole day with moderate use.
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i am im running KINGS #9 kernal, regularly clocked at 499200 min and 65820 max, and when the screen is off i have it set at 245 min and max... im gonna buy a nother battery. one of those 3500 batterys...they go for like 10 bucks on ebay

edufur said:
There is plenty of info on battery issues with EVO.
First... I would recommend rooting.
Second, use the FRESH build based off the new OTA leak.
Finally, change Settings / Mobile Networks / [uncheck] Enable Always-on
Then... ALWAYS keep your WiFi radio on. Add your home network if you have one... and wherever you go, add whatever hotspots you are in proximity of.
And if you ever consider doing a new build, backup your WiFi access point data via Titanium Backup before you do.
That should just about cover it... You will get a full day of use PLUS some out of that battery.
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i rooted my phone within 2 hours of purchasing it...i will look into what you mentioned later. im gonna condition my battery for the 4th time in 5 days..

PS those 3500mah batteries on ebay for 10$ and the same 2000mah batteries.
If you get one, get a seido. I just bought 2x1500mah batteries from tuttoit, great backup batteries... charger too 9.96$ shipped.
Oh and I am getting great battery life with snap and cyanogen's rom.

yeah i am going to look into all the batteries, and i love sense, that is why im not on CM6. all my other phones are running it (G1, MT3G HD2). now that i have a phone that runs sense naturally, i dont wanna change it. i love sense! and this thread was just a way for me to vent about my crappy battery.... lol

oshizzle1991 said:
i rooted my phone within 2 hours of purchasing it...i will look into what you mentioned later. im gonna condition my battery for the 4th time in 5 days..
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When you rooted it, did you also flash the newest radios? Trust me on the fresh build.. it rocks... but also, most importantly, use WiFi whenever possible... and turn off "always update"... those are all the most important.

edufur said:
When you rooted it, did you also flash the newest radios? Trust me on the fresh build.. it rocks... but also, most importantly, use WiFi whenever possible... and turn off "always update"... those are all the most important.
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yeah im running the latest radio, and i dont have wifi where i live/ work =/

is it really that hard to search for info ? there is a post about battery live everyday some times more

im not saying i need info, im just venting right now. you buy the BEST phone available, youd figure the battery would be the best too right?

After about 10 hours I was at 50% with moderate use.... not too shabby. I have always-enabled turned off, setCPU at 1190/245 then <85% 921/245 <70% 806/245 <55% 729/245 <40% 615/245 <25% 499/245 and JuiceDefender

DirtyShroomz said:
After about 10 hours I was at 50% with moderate use.... not too shabby. I have always-enabled turned off, setCPU at 1190/245 then <85% 921/245 <70% 806/245 <55% 729/245 <40% 615/245 <25% 499/245
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lucky bastard... lol

oshizzle1991 said:
lucky bastard... lol
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lol these phones are great but until we see some great advancement in battery technology, the battery life wont be

DirtyShroomz said:
lol these phones are great but until we see some great advancement in battery technology, the battery life wont be
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that is exactly what im trying to say man... lol.

oshizzle1991 said:
im not saying i need info, im just venting right now. you buy the BEST phone available, youd figure the battery would be the best too right?
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No when I got my evo I was clearly.told and shown a doc from sprint (the manager over mobile area is a buddy) to tell everyone to expect 6 hours of battery life with normal use. I was able to squeeze out 8 - 9 myself. I know people say conditioning the battery is a waste of time . IMHO do it I noticed a nice increase in battery life. I have to laugh at people who get pissy about battery life when they are holding a mini PC.
Myself i avg. 18-20 hours a charge with normal use. I have 2 backup batteries so I don't worry to much about juice
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I really dont feel the Evo is a bad phone h, hell I love the damn thing . I just feel HTC kinda screwed up things in the process . One telling customers to expect 6 hours of use is alittle of a joke . Who the hell only works six hours a day ? Or is that six hours also include you getting up getting ready for work then coming home before you go to bed ? Second , its pretty clear the Evo has a bug in its charging system . People have reported that using stand alone wall chargers to charge the batteries they are getting improved life out of the batteries (Sorry I have never removed a battery from any cellphone I have had in the past to charge it and not gonna start now) . Third yes the HTC Evo is litterally a pocket pc with capabilities most phones dream of having . Then why the hell did they give it a 1500mah battery ? Thats like strapping a 55 gallon drum of fuel to the space shuttle and saying "Yeah this outta make it" . Sorry for my rant had to get it out (plugs phone in to charge again) LOL

OP, I like you, you're funny
A couple things..
1) Why do you have your CPU governed below 700mHz while awake??? You won't save battery that way, your phone runs at a gHz, use it!!
2) Setting your min/max both at 245 on sleep will actually decrease your battery life and your phones wake up performance, maybe not much. Capping your phone at 245 when asleep makes it a harder transition to awake because it makes that sudden jump when you wake it up. Setting your max somewhere over 600 on asleep, and setting it to OnDemand will ease the transition from sleep to awake.
There is no shortage of battery life tips but here's one: The auto rotate function polls for g-sensor status like once every 15 milliseconds. I use a switch on my homescreen to turn it on when I want it and keep it locked in portrait when I don't need it. This will help conserve some juice
I'm only scratching the surface here, I'm sure you do realize what a wealth of info there is on the subject already. FWIW, I use the crap out of this phone and I consistently get 20+ hours out of a charge. Good battery performance is achievable!

nebenezer said:
OP, I like you, you're funny
A couple things..
1) Why do you have your CPU governed below 700mHz while awake??? You won't save battery that way, your phone runs at a gHz, use it!!
2) Setting your min/max both at 245 on sleep will actually decrease your battery life and your phones wake up performance, maybe not much. Capping your phone at 245 when asleep makes it a harder transition to awake because it makes that sudden jump when you wake it up. Setting your max somewhere over 600 on asleep, and setting it to OnDemand will ease the transition from sleep to awake.
There is no shortage of battery life tips but here's one: The auto rotate function polls for g-sensor status like once every 15 milliseconds. I use a switch on my homescreen to turn it on when I want it and keep it locked in portrait when I don't need it. This will help conserve some juice
I'm only scratching the surface here, I'm sure you do realize what a wealth of info there is on the subject already. FWIW, I use the crap out of this phone and I consistently get 20+ hours out of a charge. Good battery performance is achievable!
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20+ Damn, what rom and kernel are you using? Im kinda having the same problems too. Im limiting my phone tryin to get better batt, that ****ing sucks. I just want to use my damn phone, without much sacrifice. Thanks

Why the hell do you have 4 phones running the same OS?

Battery Life

Hungry Man ~
Lately I've been running the latest update of the same ROM (Nonsensikal Froyo - now 15.2) without any CPU apps (no o/c'ing through script either), no autokiller, no battery tweaks (just Juice Plotter) only 1 widget (Fancy Widget Pro), JIT enabled, VM heap @32, compcache @18 (default) and depending on which app I look at, TiB or RE, I have +/-110mb of free RAM, very minimal apps. Also, I upgraded to CFSv9. I even bought a Seidio Innocell 1750mh extended life battery. I recalibrate my battery after flashes ....
Oh yeah, a little more info, I am not a power user, just an average user with poor to ok reception, I tend to use wireless at my house b/c reception out here in the woods ain't good, but turn it off when not needed. I use airplane mode during sleeping hours as well. The max of my battery usage is Display, then And OS.
Ok, now the question ..... If I don't use airplane mode, I get maaaaaay-be 6-8 hours of average phone usage, usually less !!
What finally broke me to PM you now is that (i recently put numbers on my battery icon) while typing a text message earlier (a few minutes tops, not on wireless) I watched my battery click down from 50 to 48 !!!
When I charge my phone full & I easily lose 10% in half an hour (I've tried this with SetCPU, JD, CBT, Super Power, CPUBoost Lite - I think you get the gist) ... and not including airplane mode, I NEVER get more than 6-8 hours of battery life !!!
Is there any knowledge that you can give me on this issue or have I pretty much exhausted my options ? I am this PM short of resigning to crappy battery life
Many Thanks for your time ~
Matt
Swyped from my nonsensikal eris using xda app

What does the phone/Spare Parts say is using all the battery? Have you tried flashing and then using the phone without installing apps (other than the essentials?) Are you leaving the phone idle, screen off, and noticing the same big drop?
You could try going to stock for a bit to see if it improves...or trying a different ROM. Maybe you have a dud battery?
Edit: Sorry, you may have meant this to be directed at someone specifically.

Just an observation. If you're not using anything to overclock the phone maybe the battery life would be better if you at least underclock it. I suggest Conap's CPUBoost Lite, free on the market and here. Just set the minimum frequency to 245760 (my suggestion), and I currently have the screen off Minimum to 19200 and the screen off Maximum to 480000.
Also, I used to use Juice Plotter. I theorized that maybe Juice Plotter wasn't great for my battery itself.

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Also, I used to use Juice Plotter. I theorized that maybe Juice Plotter wasn't great for my battery itself.
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I noticed the same thing when I used Juice Plotter. I got significantly less battery life when i had it. Try deleting Juice Plotter and see if you get more life out of your battery.

well you've noted your in a poor coverage area, and that is your problem, nothing can completely fix other than moving, but you may want to research flashing a new radio, becareful and check your md5 hash sums
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well you've noted your in a poor coverage area, and that is your problem, nothing can completely fix other than moving, but you may want to research flashing a new radio, becareful and check your md5 hash sums.
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Actually, the Verizon Network Extender can definitely help without moving. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
It's $250, but probably a lot cheaper than moving, and it should help with battery life. It does with me - I get 24-32 hours on a 1750 battery, with WiFi on all of the time (I have the old, non-3G extender.)

I'm running Tazz Froyo and get a minimum of 24 hrs on stock battery. I would try changing roms.

Battery life on my eris was never good, that's why you buy a extended battery. I have the biggest one that they have on amazon and my battery can last for five days with average use

doogald said:
Actually, the Verizon Network Extender can definitely help without moving. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=gotoFemtocell
It's $250, but probably a lot cheaper than moving, and it should help with battery life. It does with me - I get 24-32 hours on a 1750 battery, with WiFi on all of the time (I have the old, non-3G extender.)
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ohh well forgot about those
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so my battery has been draining really fast too, but my question is does the battery recalibration work? some people have said their battery drops even faster but is that only the first time?
PS. ive been on xtrrom for awhile now (like a month and a half) and it just started dropping. spare parts says android system is greater than the rest, if that helps

erisx said:
so my battery has been draining really fast too, but my question is does the battery recalibration work? some people have said their battery drops even faster but is that only the first time?
PS. ive been on xtrrom for awhile now (like a month and a half) and it just started dropping. spare parts says android system is greater than the rest, if that helps
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Yes, it works if you do it propely. Charge phone to 100%, boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, reboot phone. Use your phone as normal until the battery is fully discharged and it shuts the phone off. I sometimes try to turn it back on also just to make sure it is all the way dead. Plug your phone in to charge it, walk away, don't touch it until it is 100% charged. Turn your phone on and use it as normal. It sometimes will take a few times charging it to see a difference. If I missed anything or mistyped anything some one correct me please lol

Has anyone solved the "Low battery" and "immediate turn off" problem yet?

Has anyone solved the "Low battery" and "immediate turn off" problem yet?
Man this is the most frustrating issue EVER.
I'm running SRF 1.1.0
I have a 3500 mAh battery.
For some Farking reason, if the battery is under 50% and I get a call. It will RANDOMLY beep LOW BATTERY and turn off, in the middle of the farking call!!!
You turn it back on and it'll have 40+ % charge left!!!
AHHHHH!!!!!
After watching the 25 how to videos, I fixed almost everything that pissed me off, but this one thing drives me bonkers!!!!

I think that's the battery. Is its a yoo-bao from china (cheapie) or a good brand from a reputable source(sedio)? I have that problem with all the cheapies I bought on ebay.
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It's not just the battery. My stock phone and rom does it too when the battery gets to 15%. When it reboots it has 20 or 30%.
This phone should never have been released with such a serious bug.
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For "such a serious bug" it doesn't seem like many of us have it... I can keep a call all the way to 0%...did it a few minutes ago. Have you tried calibrating the battery stats?
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Now I dont normally let my phone get down to 0% but yeah i know i've gone WAYYYYYYY past even 10% and the phone hasn't done this. Stock battery not extended.
Kcarpenter said:
For "such a serious bug" it doesn't seem like many of us have it... I can keep a call all the way to 0%...did it a few minutes ago. Have you tried calibrating the battery stats?
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it's a cheapy battery.
However, it's also a bug somewhere in some software...
If it hits 15% when u are NOT on a call, the phone doesn't shut off. It's only when you're actually talking that it does it.
I'm surprised to hear STOCK people saying it happens to them... When I had my phone stock it didn't do this. I assumed it was a ROM issue.

I would try calibrating... I believe there's an actual app in the market to do everything for you. I'm fairly certain its free, so ill post a link, but if its not, I apologize, and well get a mod to take it out.
http://db.tt/NaGV1TB

J3ff said:
I assumed it was a ROM issue.
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I love how people assume I sprinkle magic fail dust on my ROMs.
Charge to 100% with the device off and wipe battery stats in CWM.

Key word there, "Assumed"

Kcarpenter said:
For "such a serious bug" it doesn't seem like many of us have it... I can keep a call all the way to 0%...did it a few minutes ago. Have you tried calibrating the battery stats?
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Yes. I've calibrated my battery. I have seen a couple threads on the issue. I have repeated the issue on several roms and modems. Happens every time i'm on a call and the battery gets to 15%. That makes it serious since it is a phone after all. What if I was talking to 911?
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k0nane said:
I love how people assume I sprinkle magic fail dust on my ROMs.
Charge to 100% with the device off and wipe battery stats in CWM.
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Not just YOUR rom, I've read that this is a problem on all different ROM's including the stock one!

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Not just YOUR rom, I've read that this is a problem on all different ROM's including the stock one!
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Right, but you said you assumed it was a ROM issue before you found out stock users had it.

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Right, but you said you assumed it was a ROM issue before you found out stock users had it.
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well even stock is a rom right?
What I'm hoping for is I can figure out what you guys are running that doesn't crash on you when the low battery beep happens.

I think this is a battery issue. I never had this problem with stock battery and it happened twice on cheap 3000 ma battery I bought. Returned the battery and got another one (same kind) and this one works fine. I think this is a manufacturing problem with cheap batteries. When you look at reviews of more expensive ones online, you never see anything about this problem.

I have found the solution! It turns out that our phones, much like a simple light bulb, just don't function when they don't have enough juice...
Since I can't modify a light bulb to magically require less power, the only solution I have found is to provide the specified power level. I have applied this same method to my phone - when the battery gets close to that magic threshold, all I do is - get ready for this - charge the phone again!
Seriously, though - everything takes power to operate, and a low battery can't put out the same current and voltage as a fully- or even half-charged battery. This isn't a bug, it's just a fact of life (with current technology, anyway). Who here complains when their almost-dead AA batteries can't power an Xbox 360 controller? Most of us just replace them with fresh ones (or charge them) and keep going.
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styles420 said:
I have found the solution! It turns out that our phones, much like a simple light bulb, just don't function when they don't have enough juice...
Since I can't modify a light bulb to magically require less power, the only solution I have found is to provide the specified power level. I have applied this same method to my phone - when the battery gets close to that magic threshold, all I do is - get ready for this - charge the phone again!
Seriously, though - everything takes power to operate, and a low battery can't put out the same current and voltage as a fully- or even half-charged battery. This isn't a bug, it's just a fact of life (with current technology, anyway). Who here complains when their almost-dead AA batteries can't power an Xbox 360 controller? Most of us just replace them with fresh ones (or charge them) and keep going.
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This! Cheap batteries are never worth the money. I bought some cheap chinese rechargeable packs for my 360 controllers... they ALWAYS show low charge even if I just charged to full. Same deal with cheap chinese cell phone batteries.
I am sure the battery calibration is way off with one of the cheapies.

styles420 said:
I have found the solution! It turns out that our phones, much like a simple light bulb, just don't function when they don't have enough juice...
Since I can't modify a light bulb to magically require less power, the only solution I have found is to provide the specified power level. I have applied this same method to my phone - when the battery gets close to that magic threshold, all I do is - get ready for this - charge the phone again!
Seriously, though - everything takes power to operate, and a low battery can't put out the same current and voltage as a fully- or even half-charged battery. This isn't a bug, it's just a fact of life (with current technology, anyway). Who here complains when their almost-dead AA batteries can't power an Xbox 360 controller? Most of us just replace them with fresh ones (or charge them) and keep going.
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Ok Mr. Smarty pants. You are not understanding the problem. It happens with the stock battery too.
The SECOND you hit 15% while on the phone and get the battery low warning, the phone turns off, MID CALL. You turn the phone back on and it will last hours, even on the stock battery.
If it hits 15% without being on a call, it does not shut down.
That is the real problem here.

This has happened to me once , what could be the cause ? Defective phone or software?

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Ok Mr. Smarty pants. You are not understanding the problem. It happens with the stock battery too.
The SECOND you hit 15% while on the phone and get the battery low warning, the phone turns off, MID CALL.
If it hits 15% without being on a call, it does not shut down.
That is the real problem here.
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You mean just like a 360 controller can have enough juice to turn on, but not enough to actually play? Or how a flashlight will be too dim to be worth it when the batteries get low?
Would it be better if the battery ran like a champ right up to the second that it shuts off without warning? That would fix your problem - no notification when the battery is low (the sudden shut off can't be avoided until we find an unlimited energy source small enough to fit in our phones)
Your expectations are unrealistic. Just sayin'...
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J3ff, it's likely the cheap battery. Here's why:
Charge level is a simple linear voltage function. Our phones consider 4.2V to be full charge (100%), and empty to be around 3.6V (0%). The voltage drops roughly linearly between these two values as charge is consumed.
The kicker is this: The voltage seen at the battery terminals is also affected by the interaction between the internal resistance of the battery and the instantaneous load, or current draw. For electronics buffs, this is the classic V=IR, and what happens is that the voltage on the battery will drop by IR in addition to it's unloaded voltage level due to whatever the stored charge state is.
Good quality batteries have a very low internal resistance, and will not drop much voltage due to an increased load. Crappy batteries are just the opposite, and even though they do carry the charge storage (most of the time) advertised, they are only suitable for low load applications.
What's happening is you have a battery with a horribly high internal R. When you make a phone call, the load increases A LOT -- transmit power goes way up. This if why phones get hot when talking on them -- they really suck the juice.
As a consequence, because of the high resistance, voltage from the battery takes a nosedive. At an "idle" reading of 50% (3.9V, thereabouts) you're probably dropping more than 0.3V when the load goes up during a call, the phone panics, and shuts down to protect the battery (LiIon doesn't like to be discharged below 3.3V, and can be damaged).
When you reboot, the high load is gone, so the voltage shows higher again, reflecting the fact that there is truly still plenty of charge stored and available. The battery simply can't handle gulps, but only slow sipping.
High internal R is one of the most common reject reasons from mfgs, and those batts are sold on the cheap to dealers and distributors in a secondary market. Honest ones then resell into appropriate application spaces where low-current is all that is needed. Most, however, are not that scrupulous, and sell right back to the same market, leaving behind puzzled and unhappy customers.
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consistently mediocre battery life even after calibration and undervolt

I just can't seem to crack the battery life conondrum. I've calibrated (charge to 100%, wipe stats, then full cycle).
If I'm listening to music its consistently I'm sucking ~10% an hour, if idling ~4-5%. Which means I'm getting around same battery life as my old nexus one – mediocre, I end a working day with around 30-40%. If I want to go out after work i have to remind myself to charge during the day...
Right now I'm even running a mild setcpu undervolt (with faux123 kernel) and profile (screenoff max cpu 600mhz) but seeing not much improvement if any.
I am on gingerbread AT&T radio so thats not it either... any tips aside from 'use juice defender' (which I don't want to do as I want always on data instant push etc., I know juice defender basically shuts your data radio off)?
Note this is the same with stock gingerbread as well as the ROM and kernel I'm currently on (redpill, faux123 kernel)

I've done everything you have and i'm on a Bell Atrix....i have been looking into this for about a week or more and i just can't crack it either!!! it's driving me nuts and i have spent sooo many hours googling, searching xda and other sites and have tested MANY different methods and still can't seem to figure it out. For me i know its the phone idle...but what it is i can't tell, i have SystemPanel monitoring as as well as watchdog which i alternate with. Flashed the battery calibration fix and calibrated the meter blah blah blah....driving me nuts and i know its not a faulty battery because before i unlocked and flashed 2.3.4 i could get about 30 hours with heavy to moderate use!!!
For the love of god i wish a team of dev's would look into this!!!!!!!!

Honestly none of the faux kernels worked for me... Try gobstopper, stock kernel with watchdog was the only combo to give me good battery life. Not to mention lock sounds works properly, and its fast. All bell users should use it. Seriously... 19+ hours worth moderate usage.
phone idle is still high but it seems to be a slow drain.
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a.) not an option for me, AT&T phone
b.) I'm not seeing faux's kernel do any worse than stock kernel, I don't think its the kernel?
c.) yeah I tried system monitor as well, the highest process was opera at 3%.... 3 lousy percent lol

1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.

xploited said:
1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
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all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P

dLo GSR said:
all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
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Well, if you keep data or wifi turned on at all times, then there's no way you can have something more than mediocre battery life, sorry.
It's not the Atrix'es fault, its the brutal truth with all modern smartphones.

1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.

samcripp said:
1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in

I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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wintermute000 said:
I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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The people in this thread have listed all known steps to improving battery life.
If you really follow all of these guidelines and have bad battery life, you might want to try a battery replacement.
If you are sure your battery is not the problem, you might also want to try a couple of custom roms. Who knows maybe you will get lucky with one of them.

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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in
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Is there any way to log off from motoblur once you are in so you can stay offline? Of course any connection that gets cut will increase battery life.

I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.

tehrules said:
I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
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Battery life is a very subjective issue. One person might be fine with the phone, while the other person will say battery life is terrible with the very same phone.
Besides the obvious drainage problems, it all depends on how you use the phone.

Honestly the best thing that worked for me was turning off "Syncing".
I currently have 3G on, BT on, ETC...
Syncing in the background killed my battery life. Now I usually make it through the day without the need for a top-off...
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Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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The treo 650 also had a thickness double that of the Atrix .

The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.

edgeicator said:
The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
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This is the first time I am reading this sort of opinion, though I have read countless info on the subject.
If you want to make such a strong point, you better have source to back up your opinion (article, studies, other source of proof, etc).

These threads are all USELESS without NUMBERS.
Like another person with common sense already stated in this thread, you need to provide numbers.
GB has this improved tool (over 2.2) where you can see how your battery is wasting its juice. Watch those numbers for a few charges and then POST THEM TO COMPARE.
Saying your battery sucks without giving any numbers is like calling a color ugly.
(just in case someone misses the points, without numbers it's hard to compare, since it mainly becomes an opinion at that point)
P.S.- Please don't post "My battery lasts for over 9000 hours." and think that's enough info. Use your head.

Android battery charging myths and the real truth.

After many different methods,hundreds of post by others. No method of full charge works for everyone. Well I decided to find out from the source, I contacted HTC,Google,Qualicom and Samsung. So first off there,s alot of misinformation about the battery stats bin. What really happens when you wipe battery stats??? NOTHING!!! That's right absolutely nothing. As quoted by all companies I,ve contacted heres the real deal.(batterystats.bin) is used to maintain, across reboot,low level data about your device and operations of apps during charging. Its only used to record things like this app held a wake time of ? Or your screen was using 40% recources for x amount of time. The stats bin actually has nothing at all to do with current or maximum level of charge allowable. So if you do wipe the battery stats bin what happens? The reporting that occurs in the stats bin might be allowed to report faster due to being cleaned. So then how do I get a full charge. Well sorry to say the's no real good way short of constant monitoring of your charge. lets look at what a L'ion battery really does. A lion battery is basically the same as nicad or lead acid.the difference is the amount of charge per cell. Most L'ion battery hold a Max charge of 4.2v +/- 50mV a cell. That being said leaving your battery charging over night not only wastes power but actually oxidizes the cells causing the battery to not fully charge. Our batteries will charge more effectively by not full charging to 100% every time. Getting a good battery monitor widget like the one by 3c is your best friend, when your at 0ma your pretty much done.. So to wrap this up and still give you proper info here we go!!! Screen time out and LCD density drain most of your battery. Using task managers to kill apps actually uses more battery because Android will re open apps as it chooses, there's no need to kill an app unless you know why your doing it android does a great job of resource management. Also remember any mods or tweaks you use might add extra strain on your battery. Multiple launchers,live wallpapers,not backing out of apps properly especially games. The main things to consider when your battery loses charge fast is, does my rom use more resources than stock, do I have to many active apps, do I not know how to properly exit applications. ALL THIS INFO IS FACT AND CAN BE VERIFIED BY A LITTLE RESEARCH ON YOUR PART!
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Same thing HTC told me.
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Yes, the wiping battery stats in recovery does NOTHING. Glad to see this reported. I've read much about this on Google+, with actual Google engineers and employees and developers debunking this. It only deletes your phones record of battery use (essentially), i.e. has absolutely zero effect on battery use, only record/reporting.
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While this is correct an SBC kernel will allow your phone to get a higher charge and hold it there while undervolting will lessen the amount of power used therefore giving u better battery life.

While fully charging a battery will potentially lessen the life of a battery, it could take years for a noticeable effect... And in reality, how many people will continue having the evo once their contract is up, and the recent/upcoming lte releases become free with upgrade down the road...
Not to mention letting the phone discharge too low is not great for a battery either...
I concur on battery stats not needing to be wiped...
Nice post overall, and some really good information presented, thank you for sharing.

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While fully charging a battery will potentially lessen the life of a battery, it could take years for a noticeable effect... And in reality, how many people will continue having the evo once their contract is up, and the recent/upcoming lte releases become free with upgrade down the road...
Not to mention letting the phone discharge too low is not great for a battery either...
I concur on battery stats not needing to be wiped...
Nice post overall, and some really good information presented, thank you for sharing.
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Yeah I def wanna throw some props your way on the SBC kernels. Thanks a lot,it's been working great so far.
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PyreKing said:
After many different methods,hundreds of post by others. No method of full charge works for everyone. Well I decided to find out from the source, I contacted HTC,Google,Qualicom and Samsung. So first off there,s alot of misinformation about the battery stats bin. What really happens when you wipe battery stats??? NOTHING!!! That's right absolutely nothing. As quoted by all companies I,ve contacted heres the real deal.(batterystats.bin) is used to maintain, across reboot,low level data about your device and operations of apps during charging. Its only used to record things like this app held a wake time of ? Or your screen was using 40% recources for x amount of time. The stats bin actually has nothing at all to do with current or maximum level of charge allowable. So if you do wipe the battery stats bin what happens? The reporting that occurs in the stats bin might be allowed to report faster due to being cleaned. So then how do I get a full charge. Well sorry to say the's no real good way short of constant monitoring of your charge. lets look at what a L'ion battery really does. A lion battery is basically the same as nicad or lead acid.the difference is the amount of charge per cell. Most L'ion battery hold a Max charge of 4.2v +/- 50mV a cell. That being said leaving your battery charging over night not only wastes power but actually oxidizes the cells causing the battery to not fully charge. Our batteries will charge more effectively by not full charging to 100% every time. Getting a good battery monitor widget like the one by 3c is your best friend, when your at 0ma your pretty much done.. So to wrap this up and still give you proper info here we go!!! Screen time out and LCD density drain most of your battery. Using task managers to kill apps actually uses more battery because Android will re open apps as it chooses, there's no need to kill an app unless you know why your doing it android does a great job of resource management. Also remember any mods or tweaks you use might add extra strain on your battery. Multiple launchers,live wallpapers,not backing out of apps properly especially games. The main things to consider when your battery loses charge fast is, does my rom use more resources than stock, do I have to many active apps, do I not know how to properly exit applications. ALL THIS INFO IS FACT AND CAN BE VERIFIED BY A LITTLE RESEARCH ON YOUR PART!
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Thanks for the information! I wonder how this will be received by those who've been doing this battery stats wiping religiously when flashing ROMs. Interesting to get some information from the SOURCE!
Also, I've always used the sbc kernels, and have had no battery issues (and I let the phone charge all night, every night). I'm sure it'll mess up my battery eventually, but I got my current one free anyway from Sprint (extended one), so oh well. No loss!

PyreKing said:
After many different methods,hundreds of post by others. No method of full charge works for everyone. Well I decided to find out from the source, I contacted HTC,Google,Qualicom and Samsung. So first off there,s alot of misinformation about the battery stats bin. What really happens when you wipe battery stats??? NOTHING!!! That's right absolutely nothing. As quoted by all companies I,ve contacted heres the real deal.(batterystats.bin) is used to maintain, across reboot,low level data about your device and operations of apps during charging. Its only used to record things like this app held a wake time of ? Or your screen was using 40% recources for x amount of time. The stats bin actually has nothing at all to do with current or maximum level of charge allowable. So if you do wipe the battery stats bin what happens? The reporting that occurs in the stats bin might be allowed to report faster due to being cleaned. So then how do I get a full charge. Well sorry to say the's no real good way short of constant monitoring of your charge. lets look at what a L'ion battery really does. A lion battery is basically the same as nicad or lead acid.the difference is the amount of charge per cell. Most L'ion battery hold a Max charge of 4.2v +/- 50mV a cell. That being said leaving your battery charging over night not only wastes power but actually oxidizes the cells causing the battery to not fully charge. Our batteries will charge more effectively by not full charging to 100% every time. Getting a good battery monitor widget like the one by 3c is your best friend, when your at 0ma your pretty much done.. So to wrap this up and still give you proper info here we go!!! Screen time out and LCD density drain most of your battery. Using task managers to kill apps actually uses more battery because Android will re open apps as it chooses, there's no need to kill an app unless you know why your doing it android does a great job of resource management. Also remember any mods or tweaks you use might add extra strain on your battery. Multiple launchers,live wallpapers,not backing out of apps properly especially games. The main things to consider when your battery loses charge fast is, does my rom use more resources than stock, do I have to many active apps, do I not know how to properly exit applications. ALL THIS INFO IS FACT AND CAN BE VERIFIED BY A LITTLE RESEARCH ON YOUR PART!
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This is good info - I can confirm that. Sometimes we advise our customers to wipe out the stats, because this differs from phone to phone. Dell Streak 5 for example, has the .bin file hardcoded somehow to the OEM battery capacity, so the charge indication is not shown properly if the battery is bigger than the OEM (if I'm not mistake). But in general, yes, wiping the .bin file won't increase battery life.
There is a good article on this from Lifehacker on Task Killers. Google "Android Task Killers Explained: What They Do and Why You Shouldn't Use Them"

When changing roms, is it advisable to wipe the battery stats?