Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
yourlife said:
Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
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I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
hukkguai said:
I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
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So you're saying that once the average speeds for HSPA+ are say 8mbps that my phone will be capped at 7.2 mbps, but if the average speeds are currently under 7.2 that I would be completely capable of having the same speeds as a phone equipped for HSPA+?
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With T-mobile USA's promise of 21mbps hsdpa next year and the rumored release of the HD2 for T-mobile USA I've gotten to thinking. The HD2 is currently listed as being capable of 7.2 mbps hsdpa, which I realize T-mobile USA doesn't even have yet. So is hsdpa speed a software or hardware issue? And assuming it is software does anyone have any thoughts on how likely it is there will be an update, official or xda. Sorry if this is a dumb question, it just seems dumb to buy an amazing phone like the HD2 and not get the best download speeds around.
Mobile Operators usually limit the HSDPA speeds. On my HD2 in my location I experience some 1.7Mbs via HSDPA, while WiFi provides some 6-7MBs.
The 7.2 MBps is a hardware limit for the HD2, though. Can't get it any faster with software updates.
I'm getting approx 1.25 mbps with 3G here (VF-CZ).
Anyone on T-mobile USA with the x10 getting hspa+ speeds?
im in chicago and im getting about 1mbps
O_O last time I checked xperia x10 doesn't have support for hspa+ but I could be wrong. And I haven't actually checked yet but I seem to be having the same speed, I'll check later and post the results
I get between 4-6 depending where I am
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from the SE official site, the spec. said it is UMTS/HSPA phone which is upto 7.2 Mbps (correct me if i am wrong) HSPA+ is upto 14.4 Mbps which is double....
I dont think our X10 is HSPA+ phone.
I get about 4Mbps down near millennium park with t-mobile's new rollout. Average speed is about 1.5Mbps down throughout the city.
njfpolyr6 said:
from the SE official site, the spec. said it is UMTS/HSPA phone which is upto 7.2 Mbps (correct me if i am wrong) HSPA+ is upto 14.4 Mbps which is double....
I dont think our X10 is HSPA+ phone.
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Even if the phone does not support HSPA+, having the network upgraded greatly improves the UTMS/HSPA speeds.
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Even if the phone does not support HSPA+, having the network upgraded greatly improves the UTMS/HSPA speeds.
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This is correct. HSPA+ is just HSDPA and HSUPA, but with a faster theoretical cap.
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in san francisco i get between 7-14 and late night i've gotten up to 21.
Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today in Los Angeles, USA-- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
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Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today -- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
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The International does NOT have LTE.
It does work on AT&T's HSPA+ network and on T-Mobile's EDGE network (2G)
However, if you're in an area where T-Mobile has already refarmed the 1900 MHz spectrum, then you will see HSDPA and HSPA+ speeds from T-Mobile (FauxG). However, in 2013 when T-Mobile starts deploying their LTE, you won't be able to get on that network, however, T-Mobile is planning on refarming the 1900 MHz spectrum for HSPA+ and 3G, so in that regards, if your area already has begun the refarm, then from now onwards you're only going to see more and more places where you pick up HSPA+
ilovejellybean said:
Hey everyone,
When I bought the international version of Samsung Note II, the ad specifically said it would only work with EDGE lacking 3G, LTE capabilities. I know Tmobile is in the process of upgrading their towers to extend their 3G 1900+ coverage.
Funny thing happened today in Los Angeles, USA-- while I was walking my dog near a cellular tower I saw H+ on my phone (hooray no more E!). I immediately ran speedtest and had 16MB download speeds compared to my 200kb Edge. As I walked away from the tower, H+ became H which downloaded @ 7MB.
So were all these claims/scare that the international version of the Note 2 will "never" have 3G/LTE based on baseless assumptions given the lack of release in US? I'm assuming H+ = 4G/LTE?, H = 3G and E = lame.
Let me know what you guys think!
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H+ is not LTE, it's just being marketed by T-mobile and AT&T to be "4G"
H+ = HSPA+
H = HSPA
I just wanted to ask a question about the Nexus 4 for T-Mobile users specifically.
As many are probably aware T-Mobile in the US is refarming their spectrum to provide 42mbps speeds on the 1900mhz spectrum which will allow phones like the iPhone to get hspa+ speeds.
I don't care about the iPhone. I want to know what network speeds will be like for current handsets like the nexus 4 that get 42 Mbps right now.
I ask because I am currently in Boston with a gnex and when I first switched to T-Mobile network speeds kept getting better but within the last 6 months speeds have just gotten worse. I think the 1900mhz refarm may be to blame.
I would love to get 42Mbps speeds and this would be my main reason for upgrading to a nexus 4. But does the nexus 4 only support DC-HSPA+ on T-mobile's current bands or will it supports hspa+ (42mbps) on the 1900mhz bands as well. I ask because if this is not the case there is a serious issue of future proofing for this phone and I would probably wait for the next Nexus.
So just wandering if anyone knows more about this kind of stuff than me. Thanks!
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.
spitefulcheerio said:
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
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Sorry to bring old post back up but this isn't correct. It will not be 1700mhz HSPA+ and 1900mhz HSPA+. It will be 1700 LTE, 1900 HSPA+. Currently HSPA+ is on 1700mhz. So it might be worse for the Nexus 4.
Maybe you can then enable the hidden LTE?
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I'm currently on x829 USA variant of the Le Max 2. I've noticed that for me switching to H+ gives way faster data speeds. I'm in USA on Metro PCS. I'm using t.mobile apns. Just thought I would let some people know, depending on your area H+ may bring faster data speeds. I've noticed this on all Roms. I guess it depends on your location and where the cell towers are located and traffic congestion. What are your thoughts?
Bottom is LTE with great upload speeds. Top is H+ with better download speeds. Basically when I switch to H+ I can stream Instagram videos no problem without loading. It totally depends on the area your in as well I know.
H+ is 3G HSPA+, it is much slower than 4G LTE.
my area the (t-mobile) LTE network speed is over 100mpbs all the time ....
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I'm currently on x829 USA variant of the Le Max 2. I've noticed that for me switching to H+ gives way faster data speeds. I'm in USA on Metro PCS. I'm using t.mobile apns. Just thought I would let some people know, depending on your area H+ may bring faster data speeds. I've noticed this on all Roms. I guess it depends on your location and where the cell towers are located and traffic congestion. What are your thoughts?
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It just mean your area LTE is bad.
cgigate said:
H+ is 3G HSPA+, it is much slower than 4G LTE.
my area the (t-mobile) LTE network speed is over 100mpbs all the time ....
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?!?! This sounds insane! What's the trick? Do you bribe T-Mobile in your area with cookies?!
Max speed of H+ is 63 Mbps. LTE is much faster but it depends on your area coverage.