[Q] tmobile hspa+ on x10? - XPERIA X10 General

Anyone on T-mobile USA with the x10 getting hspa+ speeds?
im in chicago and im getting about 1mbps

O_O last time I checked xperia x10 doesn't have support for hspa+ but I could be wrong. And I haven't actually checked yet but I seem to be having the same speed, I'll check later and post the results

I get between 4-6 depending where I am
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from the SE official site, the spec. said it is UMTS/HSPA phone which is upto 7.2 Mbps (correct me if i am wrong) HSPA+ is upto 14.4 Mbps which is double....
I dont think our X10 is HSPA+ phone.

I get about 4Mbps down near millennium park with t-mobile's new rollout. Average speed is about 1.5Mbps down throughout the city.

njfpolyr6 said:
from the SE official site, the spec. said it is UMTS/HSPA phone which is upto 7.2 Mbps (correct me if i am wrong) HSPA+ is upto 14.4 Mbps which is double....
I dont think our X10 is HSPA+ phone.
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Even if the phone does not support HSPA+, having the network upgraded greatly improves the UTMS/HSPA speeds.

needmoregigs said:
Even if the phone does not support HSPA+, having the network upgraded greatly improves the UTMS/HSPA speeds.
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This is correct. HSPA+ is just HSDPA and HSUPA, but with a faster theoretical cap.
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in san francisco i get between 7-14 and late night i've gotten up to 21.

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HD2 HSDPA speed

With T-mobile USA's promise of 21mbps hsdpa next year and the rumored release of the HD2 for T-mobile USA I've gotten to thinking. The HD2 is currently listed as being capable of 7.2 mbps hsdpa, which I realize T-mobile USA doesn't even have yet. So is hsdpa speed a software or hardware issue? And assuming it is software does anyone have any thoughts on how likely it is there will be an update, official or xda. Sorry if this is a dumb question, it just seems dumb to buy an amazing phone like the HD2 and not get the best download speeds around.
Mobile Operators usually limit the HSDPA speeds. On my HD2 in my location I experience some 1.7Mbs via HSDPA, while WiFi provides some 6-7MBs.
The 7.2 MBps is a hardware limit for the HD2, though. Can't get it any faster with software updates.
I'm getting approx 1.25 mbps with 3G here (VF-CZ).

Old Phones and HSPA+

Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
yourlife said:
Considering HSPA+ is still only a 3g network, should phones that had 3g capability be able to take advantage of HSPA+? I mean when T-Mobile upgraded their old 3g to HSDPA/HSUPA, every phone got the boost.
And why do phones that are cable of utilizing HSPA+ need a sim card that supports HSPA+
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I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
hukkguai said:
I work Tmo Retail. All 3g Tmo phones can utilize the HSPA+ network. The difference with the newer MT4G and G2 is that they can handle higher speeds depending on your area.
For instance, the Samsung Vibrant can handle up to 7.2 mbps while the G2 can do 14.4. In Los Angeles, I get around 4-5 megs on HSPA+ so both phones would be about the same speeds. However, I've heard in other areas in the country, some people have reached 8-12 mbps with HSPA+. In that case, the higher speed capabilities would make a difference.
Hope that answers your question!
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So you're saying that once the average speeds for HSPA+ are say 8mbps that my phone will be capped at 7.2 mbps, but if the average speeds are currently under 7.2 that I would be completely capable of having the same speeds as a phone equipped for HSPA+?

Is HSDPA the same as HSPA+ under network?

I went to the T mobile store and showed them under about phone > network it shows HSDPA. He said this is normal and it its really HSPA+. Does everyone else have this or is it just me?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is an enhanced 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, also dubbed 3.5G, 3G+ or turbo 3G, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.0 Megabits/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink and 84 Mbit/s with Release 9 of the 3GPP standards.[1]
Yea I know that Im asking if anyone has an actual HSPA+ under network that shows up because everyone I've seen around my way has HSDPA. The rep said even though it says that you get HSPA+ speeds.
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Mine shows UMTS, but im running cm7.
Scratch that, just got 4g. Says HSDPA.

[Q] The TmoUS hd2 having hsdpa support.

Does anyone know why the hd2 has hsdpa support (hspa+ downloads) before T-Mobile's hspa 4g campaign? It can be considered as half of a 4g device since it only supports 4g downloads but not 4g uploads.
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the htc hd2 supports up to 7.2Mbps. But the real 4G t-mobile is coming out is 40+
HSDPA and HSPA+ are 2 different things.
TmoUS HD2 does support HSDPA (when you see the H in the taskbar) but does not support HSPA+
HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is actually more like 3G+ since I do get insane download speeds on it, and it has the actual capacity to get 14.4 MBPS down (although I don't know anyone who gets that)
HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) can get up to 42 MBPS down and our phones do not support this.

[Q] Will Nexus 4 still get 42 mbps hspa+ after 1900mhz refarm?

I just wanted to ask a question about the Nexus 4 for T-Mobile users specifically.
As many are probably aware T-Mobile in the US is refarming their spectrum to provide 42mbps speeds on the 1900mhz spectrum which will allow phones like the iPhone to get hspa+ speeds.
I don't care about the iPhone. I want to know what network speeds will be like for current handsets like the nexus 4 that get 42 Mbps right now.
I ask because I am currently in Boston with a gnex and when I first switched to T-Mobile network speeds kept getting better but within the last 6 months speeds have just gotten worse. I think the 1900mhz refarm may be to blame.
I would love to get 42Mbps speeds and this would be my main reason for upgrading to a nexus 4. But does the nexus 4 only support DC-HSPA+ on T-mobile's current bands or will it supports hspa+ (42mbps) on the 1900mhz bands as well. I ask because if this is not the case there is a serious issue of future proofing for this phone and I would probably wait for the next Nexus.
So just wandering if anyone knows more about this kind of stuff than me. Thanks!
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.
spitefulcheerio said:
Of course it will still get HSPA+:42
The reason your speeds are getting slower has to do with network congestion and 1900mhz should allow for a greater transmission
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Sorry to bring old post back up but this isn't correct. It will not be 1700mhz HSPA+ and 1900mhz HSPA+. It will be 1700 LTE, 1900 HSPA+. Currently HSPA+ is on 1700mhz. So it might be worse for the Nexus 4.
Maybe you can then enable the hidden LTE?
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