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On my K-Jam when coming out of flight mode after a flight the signal strength meter shows no signal but I'm in a strong signal area and I can make and receive call fine. Switching the device off and on restores the signal meter.
Anybody else seeing this?
do you have anything installed that displays stuff on the top bars? maybe it's just a re-draw problem. if it doesn't affect performance then maybe it is ok?
No nothing installed which uses the top bar.
So, am I the only one with this problem? I am trying to stablish whether this is a WM% issue or due to something I have installed on my device.
anything that affects the radios then [i.e. stuff that turn on or off the BT/Telephone/WiFi]???
Only PPCProfilespro. I can try removing that I guess. will let you know.
i had a similar problem with older PPC phone. It would not turn the phone part back up, if my battery is low. Plug it in to a charger and it's back to normal.
Same problem here with an 8125 - need to reboot after using flight mode to get phone connected again. Means turning off and then soft booting vs flight mode is the best way to get on/off a plane. Annoying - the RIM guys are up and running instantly.
I've also seen this on my kjam a few times.
It doesn't show any signal bars but the green led flashes which indicates that there is a signal and i can make calls or send msgs!
Either a soft reset restores it back or by turnin Flight Mode on and off again..
how do u put the 8125 into flight mode
Well I uninstalled my PPCProfile Pro and it still does it. I then tried with another profiler (Phone alarms) and same thing. I think this is as MS software problem by the looks of it.
After flight mode it recovers... eventually
One of the things I've found is that if, after leaving flight mode, you just leave the phone for a while (at least 5-10 minutes) it eventually seems to show the signal strength properly.
Of course, that's a pain, so I usually just soft reset it.
When you say that it's showing the "..." and you can still make calls, do you know if GPRS also works? And, what about incoming calls?
Thanks!
sorry a bit offtopic: i can't find the thread with the GSM Test Mode (Reg-Hack, calling a phone-number...). Anybody has a link please?
Since one is not allowed to have a cell phone on during a flight, does anyone have any idea on how to turn off the Cell phone aspect of the Wizard? I want to still use the Wizard to listen to music or watch a movie during the flight!!
Thanks in advance!!
Pretty easy. Open up the comm manager. Disable bluetooth and phone. Boom, flight mode.
One more. Tap the icon of cell network signal and select disable.
You know, I have used the Com Manager numerous times to turn my Bluetooth on and off - and I never noticed the button for the phone!!!! I figured it would be easy!
Thanks for the help!!!!!
There is a flight mode built into the wizard, click the icon at the top that shows your signal strength, and click "Turn on Flight mode"
Just as an FYI, the "turn on flight mode" option doesn't seem to exist in the T-Mobile UK ROM.
Although it still works through Voice Command. Cool.
I'm getting sick and tired of these ************* Wizards on this ************* plane.
Heh if your Wizard/wm5 device doesn't have flight mode you can download this program,
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/fm/fm.aspx
hope this helps..
DarrenNI said:
Just as an FYI, the "turn on flight mode" option doesn't seem to exist in the T-Mobile UK ROM.
Although it still works through Voice Command. Cool.
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Ya id did, i have gone to us 26 now but i know for a fact that the rom when i first got the phone had flight mode!
Don't know about other countries but in Sweden all electronic equipment has to be turned off during start and landing. Most often I don't turn it on during the flight because I know I have to turn it off in a matter of minutes anyway... I do have a hard time believing that I could sabotage the flight by not turning my Wizard off. Osama would have thought about that a long time ago...
I don't know about you, but my Wizard (the T-Mobile MDA) had two ways to turn on flight mode. You can click on the phone icon on the top right, or you can press the communication button on the outside top left to get the Communication Manager, and click on the Phone button.
The new flashed firmware from T-Mobile has a greatly expanded manager--there are 8 items.
Coming from the IPAQ 6315, I really like the MDA.
The truth behind the "all electronics must be off" rule is the possibility that EM-radiation could cause a problem with some of the systems used during take-off or landing. So they say "better safe than sorry" and just make you turn everything off. There are anecdotal cases about flight attendants having to move passengers with pacemakers and other electronic implanted medical devices to different parts of the plane to prevent interference.
Oh, and here's an interesting fact about 'Flight Mode', it completely kills your phones ability to transmit. It turns off the phone, bluetooth, infrared, and Wi-Fi. And when you turn off Flight Mode it turns on whatever of those you had on before. I just tested that on my Wizard. I found out the first time when my brother and I were trying to play Scrabble across the aisle using infrared between turns. Flight Mode didn't allow infrared to activate so we decided to play on one phone and pass it back and forth.
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Oh, and here's an interesting fact about 'Flight Mode', it completely kills your phones ability to transmit. It turns off the phone, bluetooth, infrared, and Wi-Fi. And when you turn off Flight Mode it turns on whatever of those you had on before. I just tested that on my Wizard. I found out the first time when my brother and I were trying to play Scrabble across the aisle using infrared between turns. Flight Mode didn't allow infrared to activate so we decided to play on one phone and pass it back and forth.
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It's kind of stupid they would include Infrared as part of flight mode. Infrared is perfectly safe and does not use a radio transmitter.
What you can do next time is instead of turning on/off Flight modes, just manually turn off the phone transceiver, Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi.
Just been back from the airport for half a day, one both my trips (to my destination and back home) the specifically told me to NOT use my Wizard even when Flight Mode is turned off! So I had to turn it off...
was on a flight the day after the water scare started. Flight atttendant gave the guy across teh aisle hassle for using his BB even though the phone was shut off. Finally he convinced her it was OK. If you need to use your wizard, you might be ready to do some arguing.
Reminds me of somethign Bill Maher said last year, "If my cell phone can crash your plane...you need to build a better plane."
I have always used my wizard in flight mode as an MP3 player. I have never been questioned even when typing emails which will be sent as soon as the plane lands.
Try wearing the headset next time. h
MythBusters tried to affect a poorly installed avionics system with several mobiles at different frequencies I think the Myth was Busted.
During the horrific flights of "9/11" did not several passengers successfully make cellphone calls? The use of phones has never been put forwards as the reason those planes crashed.
Ryanair are supposed to be trialling a roaming GSM service on board their fleet.
The Airlines makes money when passengers use the Skyphone system it is not in their interests to allow non revenue generating phonecalls.
Actually on mythbusters they found one band did affect the insrumentation I thought.
My point wasnt that using the wizard was bad, its just that it could be percieved as a cellphone. Thats all.
i thought they were using the installed phones, above the tray tables
http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/04/episode_49_cellphones_on_plane.html
Mythbusters tested in a jerry rigged 1/2 cokpit which would definately not meet FAA/CAA standards for installation.
I maintain that a correctly functioning phone wether using GSM, Bluetooth or Wifi would have NO effect on avionics when used in the passenger compartment of a civil airliner. Ryanair would not be contemplating setting up such a system if it was inherently unsafe.http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/31/ryanair.mobile/
I always wandered what the heck "Turn on Flight mode" is for.. now I know
Hmmm... I think I just found a way to really screw up your phone... let's see what you think of my theory:
1. Put your phone into Airplane mode. This will completly turn off all the radios in the phone.
2. Go into settings and set an unlock pattern.
3. Put your phone into standby mode and turn it back on.
4. If you use up all of your tries at the unlocḱ screen you will have to enter your login details to unlock it. BUT THE PHONE IS STILL IN AIRPLANE MODE. Hence, the phone will not be able to connect to Googles servers for verification. And the worst thing is that not even a shut down of the phone will remove the airplane mode. Not even a removal of the battery.
THe only way to get out of this is to do a hardware reset of the phone.
What do you this of this?
I am not gonna test my theory since I don't want to risk having to do a hardware reset.
I think before the phone tries to connect to the Google service it will prompt you with a 'turn off airplane mode/turn on mobile data/WiFi' option, like it does when you open an app that requires WiFi or GPS when those radios are switched off.
Try it
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I think before the phone tries to connect to the Google service it will prompt you with a 'turn off airplane mode/turn on mobile data/WiFi' option, like it does when you open an app that requires WiFi or GPS when those radios are switched off.
Try it
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Nah... I am not going to get close and personal with my theory on this one... Just let's hope you're right... someone else might need to do a hardware reset?
A quote from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4351252&postcount=13 this post says it all...
Hereby can any available moderator close this thread since I have gotten my answers...
I have an Optimus V, but have seen many, many posts dealing with this issue in a number of different threads, but haven't seen an automated fix for the data drop/time without signal/battery usage issues many people have been experiencing that seem to be related. I'm aware of the fix50 app that seems to take care of the TWS issue for me but does nothing for the data problems or rapid battery draining. I have had good luck with the following procedure posted by abcdfv in the "[How-To] Better battery life, reduce time without signal" thread:
NOTE: when you first open the testing menu, it will show it as CDMA auto (prl). This is a visual glitch, in reality, it is set to GSM auto (prl). If your TWS is around 50%, it means it's GSM auto (prl)
First things first, go into Settings> About Phone> Battery> Battery Use> Cell Standby. Assuming your phone has been on, or off the charger for ~10 minutes, it should show Time Without Signal at around 50%.
Next thing, press HOME, and bring up the dialer. Dial *#*#4636#*#* (Do not press "Call"). After a second, it should bring up the "Testing" menu.
Go into Phone Information, press MENU, and tap "select radio band." You should experience a Force Close, don't panic, this was supposed to happen. Scrolling down shows that the preferred network type is GSM auto (prl).
What this means is that even though you are connected to a CDMA network, your phone is trying to find a GSM network, preventing the radio from sleeping, and causing excessive battery drain.
Remedy this by tapping GSM auto (prl), and changing it to CDMA auto (prl).
Now your done, your TWS should drop dramatically, and you should experience much better battery life!
Note: You need to do this every time you reboot.
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My question is this- has anybody developed a script or app to automatically do this process? If not, would anybody know how to tackle such a thing? I did find a post over on another forum with a script to periodically check for network connectivity and toggle data off and back on if a connection wasn't present, but I'm really more interested in something that would just run at startup, like the fix50 app, but would do the process listed above instead of a simple Airplane Mode toggle. I did install Any Cut and at least now have a shortcut to the testing menu, but it would be great to have something automated.
Thanks in advance!
Man- I think this is the most popular post on the xda forum!
I can take a hint-
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Kind of hard to explain what I want, but when I'm outside using my phone, and then come inside the house I want to keep the wifi on, but turn off the cell antenna to save battery (I find with just wifi on, the battery lasts a long time). I know I can do this by checking airplane mode, but then that turns off wifi, and I have to re-enable wifi, sort of a 3-4 key stroke that I'm wondering if I can do in one?
I've tried power toggles, but couldn't see the option for what I want to do with it.
You could use an app like Tasker, or Automateit (<---has free and paid version). You could have it execute a task when you enable AP mode that turns wifi back on. You can get pretty creative with the tasks as well. I haven't set it back up on my N4, but on my previous phone my need to enable/disable anything was nearly eliminated.
Thanks CMNein, I'll have a look at Tasker.
NFC tags.... I use Samsung Tectiles
You can Program a tag to go into airplane mode and turn wifi on
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See if Plane Mode Tweaker works for the Nexus 4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.airplanemodetweak
It allows you to configure airplane mode so it won't disable wifi automatically. Also allows you to use bluetooth in airplane mode if it's locked.
I've read that apps to control airplane mode don't work, at least with the stock firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29219003
I'm still using an HTC Sensation, but I've got a battery of apps to automate turning airplane mode and wifi on when at home, and back off when away.
ziddey said:
See if Plane Mode Tweaker works for the Nexus 4. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wordpress.chislonchow.airplanemodetweak
It allows you to configure airplane mode so it won't disable wifi automatically. Also allows you to use bluetooth in airplane mode if it's locked.
I've read that apps to control airplane mode don't work, at least with the stock firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29219003
I'm still using an HTC Sensation, but I've got a battery of apps to automate turning airplane mode and wifi on when at home, and back off when away.
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Maybe time for you to join the N4 club.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nbXN0eWxlcy5hdXRvd2lmaSJd