Since one is not allowed to have a cell phone on during a flight, does anyone have any idea on how to turn off the Cell phone aspect of the Wizard? I want to still use the Wizard to listen to music or watch a movie during the flight!!
Thanks in advance!!
Pretty easy. Open up the comm manager. Disable bluetooth and phone. Boom, flight mode.
One more. Tap the icon of cell network signal and select disable.
You know, I have used the Com Manager numerous times to turn my Bluetooth on and off - and I never noticed the button for the phone!!!! I figured it would be easy!
Thanks for the help!!!!!
There is a flight mode built into the wizard, click the icon at the top that shows your signal strength, and click "Turn on Flight mode"
Just as an FYI, the "turn on flight mode" option doesn't seem to exist in the T-Mobile UK ROM.
Although it still works through Voice Command. Cool.
I'm getting sick and tired of these ************* Wizards on this ************* plane.
Heh if your Wizard/wm5 device doesn't have flight mode you can download this program,
http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/fm/fm.aspx
hope this helps..
DarrenNI said:
Just as an FYI, the "turn on flight mode" option doesn't seem to exist in the T-Mobile UK ROM.
Although it still works through Voice Command. Cool.
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Ya id did, i have gone to us 26 now but i know for a fact that the rom when i first got the phone had flight mode!
Don't know about other countries but in Sweden all electronic equipment has to be turned off during start and landing. Most often I don't turn it on during the flight because I know I have to turn it off in a matter of minutes anyway... I do have a hard time believing that I could sabotage the flight by not turning my Wizard off. Osama would have thought about that a long time ago...
I don't know about you, but my Wizard (the T-Mobile MDA) had two ways to turn on flight mode. You can click on the phone icon on the top right, or you can press the communication button on the outside top left to get the Communication Manager, and click on the Phone button.
The new flashed firmware from T-Mobile has a greatly expanded manager--there are 8 items.
Coming from the IPAQ 6315, I really like the MDA.
The truth behind the "all electronics must be off" rule is the possibility that EM-radiation could cause a problem with some of the systems used during take-off or landing. So they say "better safe than sorry" and just make you turn everything off. There are anecdotal cases about flight attendants having to move passengers with pacemakers and other electronic implanted medical devices to different parts of the plane to prevent interference.
Oh, and here's an interesting fact about 'Flight Mode', it completely kills your phones ability to transmit. It turns off the phone, bluetooth, infrared, and Wi-Fi. And when you turn off Flight Mode it turns on whatever of those you had on before. I just tested that on my Wizard. I found out the first time when my brother and I were trying to play Scrabble across the aisle using infrared between turns. Flight Mode didn't allow infrared to activate so we decided to play on one phone and pass it back and forth.
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Oh, and here's an interesting fact about 'Flight Mode', it completely kills your phones ability to transmit. It turns off the phone, bluetooth, infrared, and Wi-Fi. And when you turn off Flight Mode it turns on whatever of those you had on before. I just tested that on my Wizard. I found out the first time when my brother and I were trying to play Scrabble across the aisle using infrared between turns. Flight Mode didn't allow infrared to activate so we decided to play on one phone and pass it back and forth.
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It's kind of stupid they would include Infrared as part of flight mode. Infrared is perfectly safe and does not use a radio transmitter.
What you can do next time is instead of turning on/off Flight modes, just manually turn off the phone transceiver, Bluetooth, and Wi-Fi.
Just been back from the airport for half a day, one both my trips (to my destination and back home) the specifically told me to NOT use my Wizard even when Flight Mode is turned off! So I had to turn it off...
was on a flight the day after the water scare started. Flight atttendant gave the guy across teh aisle hassle for using his BB even though the phone was shut off. Finally he convinced her it was OK. If you need to use your wizard, you might be ready to do some arguing.
Reminds me of somethign Bill Maher said last year, "If my cell phone can crash your plane...you need to build a better plane."
I have always used my wizard in flight mode as an MP3 player. I have never been questioned even when typing emails which will be sent as soon as the plane lands.
Try wearing the headset next time. h
MythBusters tried to affect a poorly installed avionics system with several mobiles at different frequencies I think the Myth was Busted.
During the horrific flights of "9/11" did not several passengers successfully make cellphone calls? The use of phones has never been put forwards as the reason those planes crashed.
Ryanair are supposed to be trialling a roaming GSM service on board their fleet.
The Airlines makes money when passengers use the Skyphone system it is not in their interests to allow non revenue generating phonecalls.
Actually on mythbusters they found one band did affect the insrumentation I thought.
My point wasnt that using the wizard was bad, its just that it could be percieved as a cellphone. Thats all.
i thought they were using the installed phones, above the tray tables
http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2006/04/episode_49_cellphones_on_plane.html
Mythbusters tested in a jerry rigged 1/2 cokpit which would definately not meet FAA/CAA standards for installation.
I maintain that a correctly functioning phone wether using GSM, Bluetooth or Wifi would have NO effect on avionics when used in the passenger compartment of a civil airliner. Ryanair would not be contemplating setting up such a system if it was inherently unsafe.http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/31/ryanair.mobile/
I always wandered what the heck "Turn on Flight mode" is for.. now I know
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Here I want to share my stories..
I Live in Indonesia.. Once upon a day, i have a flight to Medan.. when the ship was going to take off, it was just like the usual that the crew command all the passengers to switch off the Mobile Phone before we take off..
then.. just like what they ask for, i press the phone icon in my pda's wireless manager.. after that the phone icon covered by "x" icon wich means the phone is off or it comes into Flight Mode.. i see that the signal icon is "x"/off too..
then the ship slowly move into take off ground.. before it cames to the take off possition, there was incoming message comes to my PDA.. CRAP!! it's only vibrating because i put it into silent mode..
Only I who know there is incoming message, not even my Mom beside me.. soon after that I don'y know why? the ship was slowly to stop.. then the pilot says with the speakers.. "I Repeat, Hope U all coorporate for the safe of our flight today, please turn off all off your mobile phone.."
I was confused on what must I do.. after a few seconds I decide to take my BA n take out the battery then put it again, which means now it's fully off..
and the the pilot says again " Thank You" after that we take off..
from my experience i felt that the "Wireless Manager" isn't truly working.. CRAP!!
I'm Using
ROM : 5.60.00 WWE
You might be right.
There are two independent settings on Command Manager, 1. Flight Mode and 2. Phone.
Phone off doesnt mean that all communication signals are off on the device whereas Flight mode on means all communications on the device are definitely off. On my BA too, one toggles the other setting, which in my view is incorrect, though I never paid much attention to it.
April 1 said:
You might be right.
There are two independent settings on Command Manager, 1. Flight Mode and 2. Phone.
Phone off doesnt mean that all communication signals are off on the device whereas Flight mode on means all communications on the device are definitely off. On my BA too, one toggles the other setting, which in my view is incorrect, though I never paid much attention to it.
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Yo! jah You might be true.. but i think there is no option for flight mode yet int that ROM.ver.. i've searched carefuly n can't find antthin..
thanks for the comment..
i've upgrade my ROM into 6.10.00 n it's built in flight mode in comm maganger..
hohoho..
Hi, has someone developed a way to sound the alarm when the phone is off?? I saw somehere that you need to program the alarm in the BIOS.
I really hate to call these 'smartphones' when a basic phone would do that!! Alarm clocks are a passe anyways!
Flight mode is the way.
It is useless to switch off the phone...in flight mode the battery has almost no drains (1% at most).
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Hi, has someone developed a way to sound the alarm when the phone is off?? I saw somehere that you need to program the alarm in the BIOS.
I really hate to call these 'smartphones' when a basic phone would do that!! Alarm clocks are a passe anyways!
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That's because when you switch the phone off IT IS OFF.
A Nokia, say, doesn't switch off - it goes into flight mode and switches the screen off.
If you notice a Nokia phone loses battery power even when swithed off because in fact it is still on. That's why the alarms go off
Therefor: Switch to flightmode and turn the screen off = same result - but smarter !!!!
Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??
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Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??
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It's a feature Nokia added so people could turn the phone signals off manually in situations where it was unwanted. On planes for example.
You could try this
Ageye G-Alarm, is isn't free but claims to
"Save battery power overnight
Using the integrated flight mode you can turn off the phone and therefore minimize the battery drain until the next alarm. Afterwards G-Alarm automatically turns your phone on again."
Same thing, but might do it automatically, but its too much for me, I don't need all the functions so haven't tried it.
Thanks! But would not want to use two third party apps just for the alarm! Looks like I might need to get back to my old & trusted alarm clock or use my other Nokia phone!
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Thanks! But would not want to use two third party apps just for the alarm! Looks like I might need to get back to my old & trusted alarm clock or use my other Nokia phone!
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Which two 3rd party apps are involved in using flight mode? (by my count none are used)
You can even configure a long hold of the hang-up button to enable it if you want in button config...
P.
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Why then there is a 'Flight mode' option in Nokia as well? Cant seem to understand this??
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In Flight mode, you can still use your phone in "off-line" mode, you can even use WiFi... so saying that turned off Nokia is actually still ON - only in flight mode - can only say someone who doesn't have a clue what is going on inside the phones. Turning Symbian phones OFF/ON means soft reset, does turning Flight mode ON/Off means soft reset in any phone? Of course not.
Take your laptop - there is power save mode, sleep mode and hibernation. But OS (say Windows) is still running, even it is on the lowest possible level, so a few external inputs (keyboard, mouse, modem), most of them you can specify in Bios, can bring the system from stanby or even hybernation mode. When you turn off your Nokia, operating system (Symbian and Maemo too) is completely off. But the internal clock chip is still running, althoug only on cca 1/100th of clock rate. When you turn phone off, the info from the alarm clock is written to this chip, telling him after how many those slow cycles he suppose to wake up (if there is anough power from the battery left). Would be easy to implement this to any phone hardware, HTC, Sony ... they'll just have to run something else than Win OS. So blame the Microsoft - but go easy on them - it's relict from the old ages of PDA, when Windows and phones were two totaly different things. Whatever I wrote is not a 100% accurate, but I was trying to make it simple and uderstandable. BTW any phone (HTC also) is loosing battery capacity when is OFF. Actually, take the battery out and it will still loosing power, after some time in even more (in hot and humid conditions) than when you leave it in the deep level stage inside the Nokia.
Hi All,
in the company I work for we use a range of XDA's for our drivers, the current and most popular one is the HD2, however i have noticed that drivers are able to put the XDA to standby, normally this is a requirement, however for the system we are using it causes major issues and provides the driver a way to cheat the system.
What im looking for it a way to disable the hardware buttons when the device is switched on, i imagine there may be a registry edit, but im not sure and need help as this is becoming a pressing issue.
Thanks
M
Your request is very peculiar, and I seriously doubt that you can achieve something like that, after all completely disabling the hardware buttons can impair seriously the functionality of the device and I don't think there is a pre-set method to do that.
Anyway, I've seen a thread that talked about reassigning the shortpress on power button to something else (and I'm talking about shortpress, not longpress), yet this didn't work on the HD2 when I tested it this morning.
Anyway, if your system is debunked by putting the device in standby, it will also troubled by simply removing the battery. In other words, you can put a strong password to forbid a user from turnning off a pc from the start menu, but you cannot forbid this user from pulling the plug off the mains
Anyway, a very feeble solution could be making so that whatever is that's thrown off by the standby, keeps working even in standby; there's a tweak for wifi that allows wifi radio to stay on during standby, and probably forcing the wifi always on, and tweaking it from bsb to be on even during standby, it will also force the CPU of the device to be on even if you lock the phone by press endkey
Dont really want to give too much away, but our application uses gprs/3g and gps constantly, and by going into standby it loses connection with our servers and gps, thus allowing users to go standby in one area and then turn back on somewhere else but system thinks they are in area 1 until they move to antoher area again. this causes a major issue and headache for me, so what i really need is for the app to remain live when in standby and to keep the data and gps connection live
hope that makes sense
Hi,
These threads may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6417238
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661472
had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner, but when hit the HW power button the device still goes off, however i noticed that it kept its gprs connection, but it still lost gps which is one of the main factors. Just need some way to stop the device from turning off, apart from removing the case and then removing the buttons
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had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner, but when hit the HW power button the device still goes off, however i noticed that it kept its gprs connection, but it still lost gps which is one of the main factors. Just need some way to stop the device from turning off, apart from removing the case and then removing the buttons
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try this:
Change this with your registery
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
Normaly the numbers are on "4" - put this on "1" and gps should stay awake even when you put the phone in standby.
It will stay on until a program stops using the gps.
found it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676267
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had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner
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It's the first one you should try. Works fine for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6416870&postcount=6
But frankly if they do it on purpose they will no doubt find other ways to do it - so you should rather build in some protection in your software to detect it, like if 2 consecutive positions are at the same place but with more than a certain amount of time apart, it's that they turned the thing off / cut connection on purpose/...
EDIT: wilcovh beat me to it.
those reg edits have been confirmed not to work... at the time being there is no way to have the GPS stay on while in standby, and that's a pity. I am personally interested in this and have researched in the forums, yet no working method was devised (yet). And I would love to be corrected by someone, but all the solutions I found were app specific (as in, app turns off screen without turning off GPS).
So, unless the drivers should have a personal reason to "cheat" the system by turning off the GPS, just instruct them not to press that button
If they just want to turn off the display, you can make it so that they do just that without actually locking the device, by associating, as I did, longpress on send key, with xdashutdown /lightsout command. That will turn off the screen but the phne won't be locked nor put to standby.
the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
to my best knowledge you can't really do that; I mean, you can programmatically disable automatica standby in an app by calling a function to reset the idle timer, yet the power button will put the device into standby.
I'm almost positive neither AEbutton plus can remap the power button short press on the HD2, but giving it a try won't hurt that much
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the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
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other approach:
app that wakes up the device after a minute or so? the gps only disconnects for short time.
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the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
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But that's solved already!
The keepAwake app posted earlier, music players keeping playing when pressing the off button, IM clients continue to run and receive messages after pressing the power button (implies both processor running and internet connection active)... in these cases, like any app that does the required system calls to disable standby while it's running, the device won't go to standby.
The only real problem you're facing is that GPS goes off when the power button is pressed, regardless of whether the rest of the device actually goes to standby or not (try running a GPS app while playing music, press power button, music still plays but GPS turns off).
Now we pointed some hints for you - you can try them (the reg edits for GPS apparently work in some cases but not all), but if they don't work then you're alone on that one, no solution is known. And tbh I've never seen any device on which you can disable the power off key, and it's obvious why...
I just noticed this morning that when I hit the power button the screen only dims now. I swear it used to shut off the display completely before today, and I know for certain that is how it worked on 1.6. This really is annoying, because now when I put it in my pocket the 3 buttons are constantly being depresses and they vibrate, which lights the display again. That coupled with this stupid lock screen that I have to try to open 3-4 times is really making me angry. Maybe it's just me thugh.....
I'm assuming you upgraded to 2.1?
I remember reading somewhere that someone had a similar issue after upgrading to 2.1 but then they re flashed 2.1 a different way and problem went away.
Same issue here, it really eats up my battery life, and I do end up pushing those soft keys all-too often... I am on 2.1 and that is definitely when the problem started, I'm going to try reflashing to see if I can eliminate the issue.
try the steps found here on streaksmart.com. She reports that she has no issues when its done that way. I don't have my streak yet but will follow these steps when i get it.
I had a similar problem before, only the screen would go off and on again and stay on!
Turns out it was an APP that done this.
It is possible an app is causing the problem.
Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.
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Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.
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I've been experimenting with what's been causing this on mine, and I noticed that sometimes wifi will not shut all the way off. It hangs at "Turning off..."
So I tried not letting it sleep with wifi on, I turn it on if I need it, then turn it off (really a big pain in the butt) but went two days with no "no sleep" problems.
Today I tried leaving wifi on all the time, not two hours later it happened.
Since it's not happening to everybody, I wonder if it has something to do with our wifi setups. Maybe the router brand, or the encryption type, or something?
Last night I powered off the phone before better. I have wifi on all the time and I never shut it off. Today though, I have had no issues with the sleep function. It's still mid afternoon so we'll see if it continues this way. If so I will explore the wifi solution as well.
I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...
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I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...
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Yes, it means the screen will not time out and go off when it's being charged, but you can still turn it off, and mine wasn't plugged in when I couldn't turn it off.
I don't think this is related to what I've been seeing, but thanks.
It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.
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It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.
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Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete
petesbodyparts said:
Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete
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Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?
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Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?
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Yes, and I couldn't turn it off once the "screen dim bug" took hold. Today I've rebooted and left Bluetooth OFF and Wireless ON and have not had an issue all day long, and that's making calls, using 3G, wireless and running a pile of apps. I think I can live with no Bluetooth until the next release.
Pete
I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.
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I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.
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Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?
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Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?
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I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.
What I did, since I noticed that wifi sometimes didn't sleep or wake itself up properly all the time (which i think is what's affecting our Streak sleeping), was turn off the wifi sleep. In other words when my device shuts off wifi stays active.
However, I then used "Tasker" from the Market and setup two profiles. When the screen goes off it shuts off 3G, wifi and autosync. Then when the screen comes on it turns on 3g/wifi, waits 20 secs and enables autosync (which then initiates a mail/calendar/contacts sync).
This has worked perfectly, and I get mad good battery life to boot. Now this means I don't get mail/updates (facebook, weather, etc - still get calls and txts obviously) but for me it's not a big deal especially for the battery life.
I may eventually setup more Tasker events to duplicate "Juice Defender" and poll every half hour (3G only, when screen is off only) to get my updates, but for now it's been working great.
I also setup profiles so if I'm not where I have wifi pairings it shuts down wifi. Also if it detects I'm connected via wifi (at home for instance) it disables my lock screen. I also have it set to only start GPS for apps that need it (Maps, Navigation, Places, etc) and that helps save battery too.
Tasker is an awesome app for $3.99. It has a steep learning curve, but there are enough walk-throughs available to teach you how to do the basics.
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I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.
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Found the fix on Modaco. Have a look at the last page of the thread called "2.1 Bugs ....., Add what you find please....."
I never knew there was an "Advanced" menu for WiFi!
yeah that is not it. I also have mine set to never time out so does that mean it will never shut off either? Anyway, it keeps happening through the day. Wifi and bluetooth do seem to have something to do with it, but I need them both on all the time so the only thing I can do is reboot. Then it is good for a couple hours. Are the any apps that have a reboot? That's one thing I miss on the iPhone.
Every phone I have had, where it had bluetooth, had the ability to turn off discovery. On this WP7, I only see the on/off switch for bluetooth. I thought that discovery on all the time ran the battery down faster. And if left on made the phone vulnerable to attack by ne' er-do-well's.
I think pairing with a headset is the only thing you can do with WP7 right now. There's no file transfers or anything else. I just turn it off when I'm not paired.
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Every phone I have had, where it had bluetooth, had the ability to turn off discovery. On this WP7, I only see the on/off switch for bluetooth. I thought that discovery on all the time ran the battery down faster. And if left on made the phone vulnerable to attack by ne' er-do-well's.
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I think you are write WildBill, the BT logo on the home screen does not allow you to click it and turn BT off.
Unless I am wrong, you have to go into settings everytime.