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Any word on when cyanogenmod is coming to the fascinate?
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I believe we need to wait until froyo then it should be shortly after that...but i could be wrong...
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Nope. It will be here when there is a big ass thread title at the top of these forums saying CYANOGENMOD FOR FASCINATE ZOMGOMGOMG!!!
Don't ask for ETA's
The biggest problem is the different versions of the Galaxy S. The most likely solution is if a few developers would commit to porting it for the Fascinate.
The biggest problem that we currently have (correct me if I'm wrong) is the developers that are committed to bringing Cyanogen to the phone combined with the fact that we have a jacked up source code.
This is all speculation so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
@cyanogrn has also said that they dont have a test fascinate. If they had a donated phone or if there were some way to designate a donation for that particular phone, i would contribute. They dont seem real focused on it at the moment.
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would be nice but i aint dieing to have it.
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The biggest problem that we currently have (correct me if I'm wrong) is the developers that are committed to bringing Cyanogen to the phone combined with the fact that we have a jacked up source code.
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No, the biggest problem we have is that it's based on Froyo and we don't have Froyo source or even a leaked update.
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No, the biggest problem we have is that it's based on Froyo and we don't have Froyo source or even a leaked update.
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That is not the biggest problem, as there are versions of CM that are based on android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2
The biggest problem right now is that Samsung hired some really smart programmers that make really stupid decisions, like using a RIL from android 1.5 and hacking it together to work on 2.1
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That is not the biggest problem, as there are versions of CM that are based on android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2
The biggest problem right now is that Samsung hired some really smart programmers that make really stupid decisions, like using a RIL from android 1.5 and hacking it together to work on 2.1
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There wouldn't be much use in using Cyanogenmod 5x. Froyo, at least, is what we need to look toward the future.
I am DYING for Cyanogenmod, for a few simple reasons, including BASIC google functionality that was not built into this phone.
The most annoying right now is the lack of multiple Google calendars not even showing up in Samsung's handicapped Calendar app.
My HTC Eris has a 2.6.29 kernel. This phone is a year newer. The playing field should be different.
Does anyone know if gingerbread will be ported to the samsung vibrant or any galaxy s phone. From developers that is. Since the nexus s is almost the same.
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Yes.
10 char.
Not so fast.
Samsung's (latest) official wording seems kind of wishy-washy.
“In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system (“Update”). Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors. If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development.”
source: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/samsung-and-htc-comment-on-gingerbread-update-plans/
Sounds to me like they're giving themselves a hole to crawl out of. And seeing as how they're struggling to roll out Froyo as it is, they might just say f**k it to Gingerbread.
Although, there would probably be someone here who would port it over in the even that there's not an official update.
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chui101 said:
Not so fast.
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It doesn't have to be official. The OP asks whether the developers will port it and likely wasn't referring to Samsung.
Samsung now says it will get gingerbread.
as soon as the Nexus S source is released well see some work from the devs porting it to the SGS.
Shoot i was hoping for Fritter (2.4)
Yeah I don't count on samsung for anything. But making a sexy lookin phone leav the os to the bored computer nerds.
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I agree. Using a custom rom instead of a stock rom is a must.
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Once that Gingerbread steps in to xda. We will have a custom rom of it. lol
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Does anyone have an idea when Honeycomb 3.0 will be ported over to G2?
Lol its been ported for a while now go to the development section
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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He probably will, but it won't be for phones, it'll be for tablets. Honeycomb is well known to not be made for phones.
OP it should also be noted that the current ports are almost entirely non-functioning, and really just a proof of concept at this point.
I thought it was already established it can be used on phones because
of all the different resolution folders in the system .
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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lol this! ^^^
I think it'd be cool if there was a decent TV out option. Things may get a little cramped, but I'd give it a shot. Would be sweet to dual boot it because as a daily driver it wouldn't be as good as something like CM or Virtuous.
It was posted today on AndroidSPIN.com, just cool to look at the ui since nothing really works yet.
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Honeycomb isn't as polished as gingerbread is internally, and it was developed to run on tablets. I wouldn't run it even if there was an official version for our phone. Google needs to tweak it some more before I'd say its ready for mainstream.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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I had sworn off non-Google phones after a couple of Samsung experiences, but the One is just so well-designed, I can't resist it. It's really the first Android phone which can compete with the iPhone in hardware design.
Now my question is, what happens when Google rolls out Android 5.0? Would vanilla Android be available quickly for the unlocked 32Gb and the 64 Developer edition? Is there any reason why it may not happen, or it may be difficult to do? Would the non-standard button layout throw a wrench in the OS upgrade possibilities?
I dont think so
If you buy the developer edition you can install plane lemon pie on it as it has the bootloader unlocked or any kind of ROM you want. On the Unlucked one you will need to wait until HTC releases the update as it also comes with thei Sense 5.0 UI.:laugh:
HTC have been saying they will be working a lot harder to get the latest updates out to their phones. And you can see as well in the One series that they have delivered to an extent.
Plus as the HTC One is their flagship device for this year, they will be putting all of their attention on it
As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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They don't even have 4.2 on the One, so I am assuming it would take them a long time to get KLP on the One.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
HTC says it went with 4.1 for both stability and time to market reasons, which I think is reasonable considering some of the 4.2.x issues people have complained about, though 4.2.2 fixes most of it. At this point it would be awesome to have 4.2, but for a smartphone the only features I miss are the notification shade settings and perhaps photosphere.
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There's a reason why they did not got for 4.2. Here's a quick snip from Anandtechs amazing review
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Not to mention Lock screen widgets.
But my point is not whether they CAN out 4.2 on their device, but the fact that they did not.
Samsung has 4.2 on the S4, while the SIII also has a leaked ROM. So, I would say that KLP would come to the One in Q4 of this year at the earliest.
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As I would agree to this, without source code and binaries for the device I.E> sensors, bt, wifi, processor from HTC the dev edition wont just = instant updates to latest and greatest. Its just nice to see them least offering it up.
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
cheers
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When the devs get the bootloaders unlocked flashing things will be no problem. It may take a while but it'll happen eventually.
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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Does anyone have any estimates as to when or if we will see any cm10 or paranoid round here?
Also, as ive come over from a samsung, not a 100% sure how sense development has been on sense roms as they failed to port it to anything else, have they managed to mix it with aosp or anything else?
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Atm im running aokp on my htc one-x
I can run pa or cm too if i wanted to and this device only has the htcdev unlock available.
Also sense from other devices can be ported but its a pita so dont expect to much on that side.
However there are also roms who strip htc sense entirly making it a treu aosp experience and diff ui's can be flashed( xperia and samsung ui have been ported to hox)
Obviously this doesnt mean its gonna happen at the one but i sure hope so
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I think the bootloader unlock is already possible using htcdev.
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But bootloader unlock (which AFAIK is available for the 32gb unlocked version as well) does not mean that the rest of the hardware will be opened up to developers, right?
Ugh, I was hoping for a much more optimistic scenario.... I love the efforts the developers here pour into maintaing these sets when the hardware is not exposed and the manufacturer drags its feet on updates, but after having to deal with the constant ROM tinkering and numerous resulting issues with my old Samsing sets, I am not excited about the prospect of going through it again.
Also, I am wondering if the non-standard soft buttons will affect easy porting of 5.0 to the One?
Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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What is HTC's history in terms of offering source code and binaries for their hardware? (I haven't had an HTC since the WM days
I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked, but now I am wondering if I jumped the gun and I should sit tight and wait for whatever the Next Nexus phone is? The only problem is, Google does not know how to drive good hardware design, and I really doubt the next Nexus will be as well designed or built.
For what it's worth, I love 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus, although it is getting to be a bit laggy with some apps. Nevertheless, I feel it is a bit more bug-free overall than 4.1.
If it doesn't look like HTC will release enough code to allow the One to be made vanilla Android and freely updated to the latest OS, i may actually cancel.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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HTC sucks at updating the new source code. They wait months after Google has already released it.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I meant s-off. Sorry..
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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I would hope so. But the fact that they are releasing their flagship with months old OS version is a little worrying.
I am not so broken up about 4.2, but 5 sounds like it will be a rather major update and if this thing doesn't get updated promptly, it will be a very disappointing acquisition for me.
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Having aosp etc on the one would be a bit pointless. I like it. The ones standout features are design sound and camera.
Youd have two out of three running aosp etc. Every other HTC device running has a scrappy camera since they went to 8mp. It remains to be seen what the ones camera would be. If it's deal though you lose a lot. Okay 4.2 etc is sweet on the nexus range but there hardware was built around it
Fairplay is try it on the one..debateable whether it'd be worth it though
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Exactly. I can't believe there's already complaints about the time it will take HTC to update the phone to KLP. One of the main reasons people are flocking to this phone is the awesome job HTC did on the software features. If they slapped it together you could have the latest, but not the same experience. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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They are aware they were slow in releasing it. They are now trying their best to get it out on time. As to not invalidate the point on the developer version of the one.
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How do you know this? I would love for this to be true but, given my experience with the One X, I find it hard to believe.