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Vibrant for nexus?

Im thinking to trade brand new vibrant for mint condition nexus one with all orginal stuff that came with it? good deal? vibrants too buggy man?

The smaller screen and the not as good touch screen really makes the deal sour. I have both and the nexus is awesome for hacking and Rom dev. But this phone is.just so damn beautiful.
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Honestly, if you can wait a month (Or so they say) for froyo + driver fixes, vibrant will perform better in all ways.

nick_karstedt said:
Honestly, if you can wait a month (Or so they say) for froyo + driver fixes, vibrant will perform better in all ways.
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Agreed, patience will pay off.

Pm me. Have an N1. Had it since launch T-Mobile. Only one little mark on side. Pics if you want. All original box and everything it came w. Plus a gel case and black siedio slider case.

is it me or the keyboard rotates very slow like when u rotate it goes laggyish also sometimes its standing up and its on rotation as in sideways

I got a Vibrant on the release to replace my N1...
But it has been almost 2 weeks but I cannot do it any longer... I switched back to my N1 today.. My reasons were:
trackball-- I always miss type and the trackball is soo much easier than..
battery life-- same usage but the Samsung cannot make it all day..
2.2.. Main reason, love the built in teethering and speed.
N1 car kit-great for hands free.
online support-- lots of n1 roms.
cover-belt clip--both phones are HUGE and trying to find a belt clip to carry them sucks, I found one for the N1 I love and there are really none out there for the Vibrant..
So, I love the Samsung and think as soon as a 2.2 rom comes out I will switch back but for now I will continue using the N1...

bigg12x said:
is it me or the keyboard rotates very slow like when u rotate it goes laggyish also sometimes its standing up and its on rotation as in sideways
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Nothing is slow about this phone to me. Just wit for 2.2.. gonna make it way faster...

Trackball is ugly, and there is a D-Pad in Swype/Samsung keyboards.
Online support? Please.. I can bet you any amount of money that a majority of the "support" is not worth the time or frustration. I can never wrap my head around the people that act like their HTC devices have all of this great support when in fact it's really not very good at all.
Barnacle WiFi tether works great
Battery life is subjective but there is something that you weren't doing on the N1 that you we're doing on the Vibrant because it doesn't make sense for it to be any worse.

Ive had the N1 and to be honest where it failed for me was the reception wasnt that great where i lived, everything else was nice and i do miss my flash (for flashlight reasons) but IMO the vibrant is a lot better in many ways, screen, reception, and being able to play my emulators are 3 reasons, plus i really like the small things that samsung implemented here and there, like the wifi and gps in the notification bar.
The vibrant running 2.1 is just as good as the nexus running 2.2 so what you think is gonna happen when the vibrant gets 2.2? the stupid little issues here and there are things that can be fixed with a minor update,I actually fixed my GPS and slow market issues with a factory reset and its super fast IMO runs faster than the Nexus in many ways.

Honestly its really up to the person. Each person is going to like phones differently. Spec wise though I think the Vibrant has the N1 beat. Larger better screen, better CPU, more storage space, better camera. The N1 has a flash, track ball and 2.2. Of course it has more online support, its been out for 7 months. Give the Vibrant sometime and it will have a lot of support too.

People keep citing reasons for swapping that really aren't reasons at all - they just don't know which programs to use on the vibrant to enable functionality. They are just used to their n1, and seem stuck in a rut.
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I sold my N1 on Ebay and ordered a Vibrant. I love the Vibrant. The touch screen responsiveness is amazing compared to the N1. The screen is much better. But consider that I bought the N1 at release, one of the initial 20,000. I had none of the problems others had with it, but it is 6 mos later so there is bound to be a better phone out there. It is just trading up. I wanted TV out. I could sacrifice a trackball for that. Overall I think the N1 was an amazing and groundbreaking device, but 6 mos later, the Vibrant is the most powerful device on the market.

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I wanted TV out.
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The vibrant has tv out?
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to be honest i never had a nexus my cousin does and i seen it with him for 4 months os i play with it and no problems at all u know... so far with vibrant, laggy roatition, battery not accurate on top, signal bars not accurate, gps down, pop up fully charged alert, facebook sycn always down, thats about it so i was thinking of selling it nad gettin a mint condtion nexus for 375

not many ppl would trade i dont think

i mean i can sell it for $400 and get one u know

Vibrant OR Droid X????

I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?

I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.

Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.

The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).

Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!

^ sadly, it will not.

after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.

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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?

Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.

Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.

I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.

cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November

I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)

What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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djunio said:
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!

I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector

I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.

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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....

Moving to the X, and not sure how I feel about it

Im moving over to the Droid X, simply because im a "need the latest greatest" type of guy, but I really love my Incredible! So if Im not happy, i hope one of you will trade me back an incredible!

You'll be back.

I'm kinda in the same boat. I have the opportunity to upgrade to either a fascinate or a droid x (saying ill give my bro my incredible and $50 so I can snatch his upgrade) but I'm not 100% sure I want to do it. Sure id like a better screen but as it stands every phone on verizon has a quirk, so I feel that no matter what I choose I will never truly be happy. For example:
Incredible: lowsy battery life unless you fatten it up a little, creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
Droid X: terrible menu buttons, strange hump design for the camera, could be annoying to hold at times
Fascinate: GPS barely works
So in short every phone has flaws that will make you keep going "I wonder what life would be like if I went with phone x..." People like us are truly doomed
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Div033 said:
Incredible: creaky/squeaky backplate, relatively weak graphics
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Wait wat????

Hand76 said:
Wait wat????
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From the two backplates I've used, they both exhibit a squeaky/creaky noise when held from time to time... doesnt give the strongest build quality feel. I know I'm not the only one who has experienced this.
As for the graphics issue you'll notice my use of the word relative. I'm not implying the incredible is weak, but when compared to the droid x or the fascinate it certainly is. It is still stronger than the iphone 3gs, and that's capable of running that epic citadel tech demo so ill leave it at that.
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You might be moving to the latest , but not the greatest .

I know the squeaky feel you're talking about, I forgot about it once I got a case. As far as the X, I would enjoy having a bigger screen but am not a fan of Moto phones, especially the crap Motoblur the X is running.. If I were you, I would save your upgrade for an LTE phone or something better, as the Droid X is by no stretch of the imagination the latest and greatest. rofl.

Agreed
I am not completely happy with the incredible but there are many htc phones in the works with world capabilities as well as the moto pro, that's without mentioning windows phone is dropping sometime in the next 4 months to verizon, in november to AT&T. I really don't care for anything else on the x besides the screen real estate. I have two lines available for upgrades, however, I don't see the point in upgrading right now because I love the rca outs for the incredible. I have my fiance drive me around everywhere in my titan so I can watch hulu from my dinc. Plus this is the only device I've ever owned that just works every time I call upon it. The moto droid was a big step but sometimes it would cut out in the middle of navigation, or skip when playing songs. My incredible works no matter how much I torture it I even had to scoop it from the sand with my feet underwater, I took the battery out, let it dry and it has been working for 3 months since without any issues. I am just a new tech junkie I suppose as long as their isnt a gay colored half eaten apple on it.

I agree. At this time, there simply isn't anything better out there.
... my $.02

Wait till November, the X was not a good phone IMO
There are some new phones coming to VZW in November. There is an EVO like phone coming to VZW, and it will probably be more beast then EVO.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/27/evolike-android-device-breaks-cover-possibly-headed-verizon/
There is also this one, 4" HTC slider with nice keyboard.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/04/htcs-dual-mode-cdma-gsm-android-slider-hits-the-fcc-decked-out/
There was also rumor of the HTC Scorpion 1.5GHZ processor and Froyo coming to VZW.

Im sure ill be back, I really love the inc......I have a 30day grace period, so ill weight it all out

So after owning the G2 for a few weeks...

I'm happy to say that I'm back on my Samsung Vibrant! The G2 is a great looking phone, and fast at that too. Issues that made me walk away from it....
Hinge was fine when I first got it, but after a few weeks it got really loose.
Force closed on my Apps so many times, it made me wanna toss it out the window a few times.
Rebooted itself at least once a day. This morning it did it 3 times back-to-back. Really?!?!
Can't get a perm root, and it looks like a few are starting to give up on it. I'm sure it'll be rooted, but not any time soon.
I really missed the Vibrant crew. You guys are a bunch of cool Mother F__kers!
Missed this pretty ass screen! <3
Oh, and I know this is minor, but I couldn't do this <3 because the G2 is missing this key "<"
Done.

I haven't heard of any of them rebooting themselves. That is weird.
Did you do something to the phone to make that happen?

traitor.
j/k.
welcome back to the Vibrant.
Let's make a group called "The Vibrants!"

I didn't do anything to it at all. I didn't even try to install temp root either. I didn't want to mess with the phone till their was a perm root.
If you go to the G2 forum section, you'll see that a few people had a issues with the phone rebooting on its own. Even when I called T-Mobile about the issue, I was told that they've been getting calls about the issue.

Tarzanman said:
I haven't heard of any of them rebooting themselves. That is weird.
Did you do something to the phone to make that happen?
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There has definitely been people having issues with the phone rebooting by itself. Sometimes even 3 times in a day like he mentioned. Seen plenty of people on my Twitter timeline complain about it. There seem to be a lot of issues with the phone.
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I really missed the Vibrant crew. You guys are a bunch of cool Mother F__kers
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Good to have a family member back
We're pretty cool

You were lucky to return it. There are posts that some people have been put on a wait list due to so many returns coming in.
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I am on my third G2 with the fourth replacement on the way and so far all have had very similar issues.1.Very very poor to no reception. 2. random rebooting, 3. Black screen freezes. 4. Dropped calls. 5. Loose hinges that keep getting looser. 6. When deploying keyboard apps start randomly. 7. Very difficult to connect to market. 8. Powers itself off on a random basis. I am so Grateful that I still have my Vibrant. So far I would rank it way above the G2. If my fourth one has the same issues and there is no OTA update to fix some of them I will send it back. IMO I believe the Vibrant is the best phone available at this time.

tenbeau said:
I am on my third G2 with the fourth replacement on the way and so far all have had very similar issues.1.Very very poor to no reception. 2. random rebooting, 3. Black screen freezes. 4. Dropped calls. 5. Loose hinges that keep getting looser. 6. When deploying keyboard apps start randomly. 7. Very difficult to connect to market. 8. Powers itself off on a random basis. I am so Grateful that I still have my Vibrant. So far I would rank it way above the G2. If my fourth one has the same issues and there is no OTA update to fix some of them I will send it back. IMO I believe the Vibrant is the best phone available at this time.
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I agree about the Vibrant being the best phone right now.

Thanks for telling me this after I just purchased a G2...
Actually I'm not giving my Vibrant up just yet. Once my G2 gets here I'll have both. I was able to get the G2 new for $200 flat-out (no contract) So I'm gonna keep them both for a while and see what happens. Then maybe I'll sell one

Told them so........
Told them so........ but no one listens The Vibrant best phone on the market today.
Smartphones I have had:
2 blackberrys, 3 Iphones, 1 nokia, 2 Winmo Phones, the G1 and the Hd 2
Of all those phones only the HD2 came close in overall performance to the Vibrant...... but not android and what a battery hog- did like the htc sense
What I like about the Vibrant (besides almost everything) it is very forgiving when you brick, I have been able to restore from all screwups I have created within 1 hr.
Within the first 20 min of trying a G2 I knew it was going to be buggy that is why I stayed with this phone
Good luck But Vibrant still RocKs

That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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spacecasespiff said:
That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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+1 plus 10 char
Still loving my vibrant.

spacecasespiff said:
That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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Anyone try the EVO 4G? I wouldn't switch, I was just wondering. I love my vibrant, but my friend is switching because of the hype of 4G and the large screen. I've never tried seen an EVO up close so I'm not sure how good it really is.

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Anyone try the EVO 4G? I wouldn't switch, I was just wondering. I love my vibrant, but my friend is switching because of the hype of 4G and the large screen. I've never tried seen an EVO up close so I'm not sure how good it really is.
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Yeah I had the Evo before I got my Vibrant. It's a good phone, but Sprint sucks and the hype of the 4G is complete bull. I got about 4mbps tops on 4G and my Vibrant gets 6.
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Just want to say welcome back. And after the froyo update we'll be back on the top of the food chain again: )
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This thread help me decide somethings. I am kicking Verizon to the curb because of billing issues. I am really looking at T-Mobile. Not sure if I want the Vibrant or HD2. I have a Droid X and now hooked on the 4.3".
Had thought about Evo but know the battery is horrible. I thought of the G2 because of HSPA+ but looks like I need to do the Vibrant or HD2.
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joroboyvn said:
Just want to say welcome back. And after the froyo update we'll be back on the top of the food chain again: )
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Personally I'd rather they get rid of RFS before I worry about Froyo. Faster JIT sounds nice but when your largest bottleneck is the FS, it doesn't matter. It's like driving a Ferrari in a school zone.
I love everything about the phone except the RFS. RFS is an example of companies drinking their kool-aid and wearing their sneakers, with the same result when it comes to plastic bags and breathing.

If you flash Bionix, Master ROM, AOSPish, or Eugene's R4, your phone will run like butter. Like. It's ridiculous how fast this thing is. I can't even stand to use the Nexus One it feels so laggy after witnessing such smoothness on the vibrant.
Other than that. My G2 also went back. It's not worth the hype nor the money. They could have made it AWESOME but no, they made it suck. The Vibrant is THE best phone. It out-performs EVERY phone in both power and slickness. The screen is the best. Once we get Froyo rolling we will be king. Forever. The only comparable/better phone to the Vibrant in smoothness (on menus/swyping screens) is the iPhone 4. But that's Crapple.
As far as the Evo 4g goes, it's ugly, and 4g aka Wimax is ***** **** that can't even touch T-Mobile's 3g itself, let alone HSPA+. My vibrant pulls 6.3mb/s. Sprint's 4g can't do that. Sprint is a joke and should be sued for false advertising
As far as the Droid X goes, it's huge and bulky. I just got one for testing on WQVGA854 screens for my apps. It's a decent device but it is more sluggish than anticipated even on Froyo. My vibrant on 2.1 runs Way smoother than my Nexus, G2, and DroidX combined, and they're all froyo.
The Vibrant is also a lot more slick than the Droid X. The Droid X is huge.
Also, depending on your location of course, T-Mobile is the best and 2nd cheapest (cricket), and most honest *cough*at&t*cough* provider. They have the nicest reps and the fastest 3g.
Vibrant -> ALL.
Vibrant 2.2 ---------------------------> all
Not to mention the Vibrant can get the FFC now as well. HSPA+ is only 8-10MB/s here in Pittsburgh as compared to 6.3MB/s, so it's not THAT big of a difference.
I will be keeping my Vibrant and loving it until Samsung drops the HSPA+ Dual Core Vibrant 2, on Gingerbread of course . And an unlimited-point touch screen with a QuadrupleSuperAMOLED HD lmao and 1920/1080 resolution... ROFL. Along with T-Mo's 42mb/s HSPA+ when that rolls. Not to mention a Camera button on the same side as the volume rocker and a mini HDMI out on the other side and... blah. Yes I dream.. 10 megapixel camera... records 1080p... a WiFi module with the power of a laptop's... and some real bluetooth compatibility... and a flash on the back camera... Make it Quad Core processor at 3.0GHz too LOL. I've gone too far.
OH and can't forget the quad-speaker setup that it should also have. Two speakers on the back and two speakers on the front. (top/bottom) and a 6800 mAh battery... that lasts like. 2 weeks. And make the touch screen feel like you could almost be touching water. But not wet.
Hahahaha. And. Uh. 1TB mini-SSD internal drive With 8GB/s transfer rate. Boots up in 5 seconds. Would be instant but needs a splash screen

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If you flash Bionix, Master ROM, AOSPish, or Eugene's R4, your phone will run like butter. Like. It's ridiculous how fast this thing is. I can't even stand to use the Nexus One it feels so laggy after witnessing such smoothness on the vibrant.
Other than that. My G2 also went back. It's not worth the hype nor the money. They could have made it AWESOME but no, they made it suck. The Vibrant is THE best phone. It out-performs EVERY phone in both power and slickness. The screen is the best. Once we get Froyo rolling we will be king. Forever. The only comparable/better phone to the Vibrant in smoothness (on menus/swyping screens) is the iPhone 4. But that's Crapple.
As far as the Evo 4g goes, it's ugly, and 4g aka Wimax is ***** **** that can't even touch T-Mobile's 3g itself, let alone HSPA+. My vibrant pulls 6.3mb/s. Sprint's 4g can't do that. Sprint is a joke and should be sued for false advertising
As far as the Droid X goes, it's huge and bulky. I just got one for testing on WQVGA854 screens for my apps. It's a decent device but it is more sluggish than anticipated even on Froyo. My vibrant on 2.1 runs Way smoother than my Nexus, G2, and DroidX combined, and they're all froyo.
The Vibrant is also a lot more slick than the Droid X. The Droid X is huge.
Also, depending on your location of course, T-Mobile is the best and 2nd cheapest (cricket), and most honest *cough*at&t*cough* provider. They have the nicest reps and the fastest 3g.
Vibrant -> ALL.
Vibrant 2.2 ---------------------------> all
Not to mention the Vibrant can get the FFC now as well. HSPA+ is only 8-10MB/s here in Pittsburgh as compared to 6.3MB/s, so it's not THAT big of a difference.
I will be keeping my Vibrant and loving it until Samsung drops the HSPA+ Dual Core Vibrant 2, on Gingerbread of course . And an unlimited-point touch screen with a QuadrupleSuperAMOLED HD lmao and 1920/1080 resolution... ROFL. Along with T-Mo's 42mb/s HSPA+ when that rolls. Not to mention a Camera button on the same side as the volume rocker and a mini HDMI out on the other side and... blah. Yes I dream.. 10 megapixel camera... records 1080p... a WiFi module with the power of a laptop's... and some real bluetooth compatibility... and a flash on the back camera... Make it Quad Core processor at 3.0GHz too LOL. I've gone too far.
OH and can't forget the quad-speaker setup that it should also have. Two speakers on the back and two speakers on the front. (top/bottom) and a 6800 mAh battery... that lasts like. 2 weeks.
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Yeah You are dreaming...and misrepresenting the truth. By the time you get Froyo it will be time to get a new phone. I had the Vibrant for almost 30 days (Cali) sent it back before the remorse period. I rooted it on the first day, the screen is over saturated for my taste (hurts the eyes) and the quality of the phone is plastic and flimsy. The Samsung Epic is a better choice. As for Sprint, I have hit 10+ downloads speeds in the valley and overall they have more coverage (3G) then T-Mobile. The Roms for the Vibrant were sorely insufficient for my taste as well, plus touchwiz is just ugly. Try taking a picture without any light, no video calls, no front camera, no dual led flash= less than Evo or Epic. However, it is slightly behind Nexus and Incredible as far as what it can do. The processor is geared toward gaming, but in other areas it will fall short. Run a linpack on that thing if and when you get Froyo and tell me what you get. You will never get above 20 mflops. So, in that area all the other phones I mentioned are killing the Vibrant.

I returned 2 g2's because of random reboots, so yes that is an issue
i am back to my good ole vibrant

Got the Thunderbolt but returned it. If you're undecided..

Well, I thought I would get the T-Bolt on launch day because the Incredible needed an upgrade. Well, if you're undecided, I thought I would give my take on it.
Like the Incredible, I was the only person in-line on launch day looking to buy it. The upgrade was fairly seamless until I noticed that the VZ sales rep scratched the piss out of the top and side of the phone. Basically, I said that I don't want to be a jerk, but you scratched the piss out of my phone and I want a new one. After a small debate with the manager, I got my second T-Bolt just minutes after launch day opening.. LOL, really lol.
Anyway, here is what I noticed...
- It's heavy, really heavy. The Incredible is a great weight, the T-Bolt was border-line hand strain.
- To me the screen looked faded and not as vibrant. The T-Bolt was sharp, just not quite like my AMOLED Incredible.
- 4.3" screen is large. My hands are considered a standard mans size and typing with one hand was hell. My thumb was just not long enough to reach the opposite side of the screen for typing. Two-handed is fine and quick thanks to the screen size.
- Battery.. With only a few texts and a couple calls my battery was in the 30% range by lunch. I unplugged it around 6am. The forums were telling users to disable the 4G.. Really? What is the point of this phone then..
- Sound. It's bad. Notifications and ring tones distort bad. I would decrease the volume, but it's hard to hear the sounds the way the phone sits. The kick stand in front of the speaker was a bad idea.
- Bloatware. Plenty of that on this phone. Just like most stock HTC phones. Anyway, rooting and Titanium Backup takes care of all the crap apps.
- Speed. It's quick, sense runs fast and launcher pro ran fast as well. But, the Incredible runs fast enough for me. Running Quadrant and Smartbench gave somewhat similar results on the phones. The graphics were quite a bit faster on the T-Bolt according to smartbench.
Anyway, I think the T-Bolt is a good entry 4G Verizon phone. Personally, I am partial to sub 4" phones. I am going to wait till something a little more refined comes along (4g wise). The DInc is still an awesome phone and still has plenty of life left for me.
BTW, the T-Bolt also has a front facing camera. I was stoked about that, too bad it was mostly useless until a good app is out for it.

Thanks, useful.
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Thank you for that review.. good to know the DINC can still hold its own.. my upgrade is next January and maybe we'll see a DINC sized 4G phone by then.

I too am happy with the size of my Dinc ;o)
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Hey, thanks for your review. If HTC releases a 4" phone with the Evo 3D's specs, I would be all over that in a heartbeat!
Edit: Minus the 3D (I hope that this 3D fad dies a quick death). 3D r&d money should be spent on battery technology.

Appreciate the info. I'll be keeping my DInc! With Incredibly Reengineered ROM it's as fast as ever with GREAT battery life.
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Thanks for taking the time to give us your take on the TB.

About the battery, just remember with any new battery you need to condition it (Fully charge than discharge about 10 times) before you get good chunks of battery life.

I just love the optical trackpad on the Inc, and this is going to make it hard to leave. Unfortunately no new phones have any pointing device besides a full touch screen, and I don't know about you guys but I find it very hard to move the cursor or select text without the trackpad.

I got rid of my iPhone 4 and got the incredible. That's s whole different topic, but it was worth it. Thank you for your comparison!
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Well I grabbed the t-bolt really so i can lock in my free unlimited 4G contract and continue to pay 78 dollars a month so thats 4g for the 3g price grandfathered in saving 480+ dollars over the next 2 years more than the price of the 249 on contract price
i swap nice clean refurbs all the time with verizon so a better phone is still in the cards for me just wont be brand new...but with the past refurbs i have gotten i really couldn't tell the difference

mooremic said:
Hey, thanks for your review. If HTC releases a 4" phone with the Evo 3D's specs, I would be all over that in a heartbeat!
Edit: Minus the 3D (I hope that this 3D fad dies a quick death). 3D r&d money should be spent on battery technology.
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My exact feelings right now. Also without the 3D... The Incredible S(2) is said to have a 4" screen and front facing camera. And better battery.
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I would get the Thunderbolt, but honestly it didn't impress me that much. Droid Bionic looks better. As for screen size I'm switching between inc and droid X. Inc's screen is too small, but Droid X's isn't as nice. Games run 1,000 x better on droid X. So really the fascinate seemed to be the phone for me... Until the sluggish nature of it came out... So really I need a super amoled Droid X lol. Bionic's resolution may push me over we will have to see... Also I think the Incredible S may be a 4"er will have to see..

The_Law2 said:
I just love the optical trackpad on the Inc, and this is going to make it hard to leave. Unfortunately no new phones have any pointing device besides a full touch screen, and I don't know about you guys but I find it very hard to move the cursor or select text without the trackpad.
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I do agree but the optical doesn't always behave the way I would like
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I went by on Friday to take a look at the Thunderbolt. I wasn't really impressed because it didn't look like it had the HTC Hub with the navigation. There were just not too many features that would make me want to go out and get rid of my Incredible.

I am at almost a year with my Inc. Personally I agree with the OP. The Thunderbolt is too big for my taste...and sadly the bigger phones seems to be the trend. Hardware is a marginal step forward.

Cant wait for 4g to reach fresno ca but i will not be getting a tbolt
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About the battery, just remember with any new battery you need to condition it (Fully charge than discharge about 10 times) before you get good chunks of battery life.
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No, you don't. If it was a NiCad then that would be something you would need to do but a lithium battery has no "memory." In fact, a full discharge hurts the battery more than helps. These batteries like to stay charged.

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I would get the Thunderbolt, but honestly it didn't impress me that much. Droid Bionic looks better. As for screen size I'm switching between inc and droid X. Inc's screen is too small, but Droid X's isn't as nice. Games run 1,000 x better on droid X. So really the fascinate seemed to be the phone for me... Until the sluggish nature of it came out... So really I need a super amoled Droid X lol. Bionic's resolution may push me over we will have to see... Also I think the Incredible S may be a 4"er will have to see..
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I'm here doing research on my wife's Dinc, I have the Fascinate & just want to add that the lag of the Samsung rfs file system is a thing of the past if you root. Once rooted you can load a debloated, custom rom & install a voodoo kernel & then this phone flies in quadrant, smartbench & real-world performance. Battery life is usually fairly stellar as well. Don't mean to troll or anything, just trying to offer info & experience.