Hi all,
My decision to start migrating from WM to Android turned up to be be quite a headache. And here is one of the problems.
For next year I intend to use Hero and HD2 at the same time and I will need to have them synchronized. Main issue is to have synced SMS - I have tried and looked for different options but ended up with nothing.
Ways it could have been implemented:
1. Desktop PC software that allows you to sync both Android and WM devices, including SMS.
2. Something like Sprite Migrate, but software that works both ways.
3. Something like My Phone service by MS but works on all platforms
4. Software that will export txts in some common standard like xml. I tried to export with SMS Backup & Restore and to restore it to WM with Jeyo Mobile Companion but formats are different
5. Others: backing up to SIM, trying to use backup created on Android with Sprite Backup on WM, forwarding sms via bluetooth, etc....
So as you can see, I have tried many options but was was unsuccessful. Any other ideas how to transfer sms from WM to Android?
I think you can save your SMS on your SIM card, but idk if android can read them out of the box.
Sync to IMAP and Gmail
Have you tried syncing to IMAP? I use MobiTnT (SMS Mobile Archiver would also work I think) that syncs to Outlook a folder. This folder can be transferred to G-mail, perhaps even automatically. To synk between Android and Gmail, you have the android sms project: http://code.google.com/p/android-sms/wiki/UserGuide
SMS Migrator
- First, down load http: // wince.nasenbaeren.net / smsimport/ to export SMS from WM then copy it into your SDCARD on Android Phone
- Then go to Android Market to download "SMS Migrator"
See more here: http: // a.baole.org/ sms-migrator
Sorry I can not post URL as I'm a new member
Browncoat said:
Hi all,
My decision to start migrating from WM to Android turned up to be be quite a headache. And here is one of the problems.
For next year I intend to use Hero and HD2 at the same time and I will need to have them synchronized. Main issue is to have synced SMS - I have tried and looked for different options but ended up with nothing.
Ways it could have been implemented:
1. Desktop PC software that allows you to sync both Android and WM devices, including SMS.
2. Something like Sprite Migrate, but software that works both ways.
3. Something like My Phone service by MS but works on all platforms
4. Software that will export txts in some common standard like xml. I tried to export with SMS Backup & Restore and to restore it to WM with Jeyo Mobile Companion but formats are different
5. Others: backing up to SIM, trying to use backup created on Android with Sprite Backup on WM, forwarding sms via bluetooth, etc....
So as you can see, I have tried many options but was was unsuccessful. Any other ideas how to transfer sms from WM to Android?
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Does SMS migrator, give you the option to merge sms? I got 2k+ on my old WM phone and 300+ on my Eris. I know Sprite Migrate was working on this feature, but I don't think they added it yet.
sorry for the late reply, but i switched from wm to android and transferring sms messages from one platform to another was something i wanted to do also.
*note* ive onlly transferred from wm6.1 to android
1. i went to this site (google "import/export move sms") [i cant post links 'cus im still new] and installed SMS Exporter.
2. exported to mmc/harddrive..
3. installed sms backup and restore from android market
4. moved the exported .xml file to the sms backup app folder
5. imported.
hope this helps.
tbaker077 said:
Does SMS migrator, give you the option to merge sms? I got 2k+ on my old WM phone and 300+ on my Eris. I know Sprite Migrate was working on this feature, but I don't think they added it yet.
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No, SMS Migrator imports sms and automatically creates sms thread for you.
suggestion: use Google Voice. It's awesome, and would allow you to sync stuff
Well. I just used the SPRITE stuff and it worked. The SMS is a little different cause Android uses threaded SMS. You you think not all of the messages are there, but they are. I didn't see any sorting it in maybe except for the subject.
Migrating contacts worked too. But SPRITE says it will wipe old data, but it doesn't. That means I have double contacts.
The WM app starts going nuts when you view the log. You have to reset the device to continue.But this is after the data is stored in a safe place on your WM device.
It doesn't do appointments. Maybe for that I have to use the .pib of Pimbackup the extract to .cvs and read it.
But the software is in beta. At least I converted it.
Found this topic. But I'm gonna work on something myself. I'm gonna try to extract the SMS to a CSV on WinMo. Write a simpel script to create an XML. And that XML I'm gonna import on Android.
kekkle said:
Found this topic. But I'm gonna work on something myself. I'm gonna try to extract the SMS to a CSV on WinMo. Write a simpel script to create an XML. And that XML I'm gonna import on Android.
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Did you ever write something? I now have a few SMS on the Android side of my HD2 which I would like to sync with the Windows side.
With more and more Android builds coming out for the HD2 I would think an app to sync between the two would be awesome.
I cannot agree more with the previous user. Any ideas on how to sync sms between android and wm???
mb said:
Did you ever write something? I now have a few SMS on the Android side of my HD2 which I would like to sync with the Windows side.
With more and more Android builds coming out for the HD2 I would think an app to sync between the two would be awesome.
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Dear ladies and gentlemen,
for a few days now I'm a proud owner of an android(SD)-booting Leo.
I still use WinMo every now and then.
Is there a way to keep contacts and (most important) sms synced? I mean from WinMo to Android and the other way round. I know a lot of apps for contacts, but for sms it's really only WinMo to Android and not vice versa.
TIA,
Arcat
PS: Give me something to answer, only 2 posts (i guess) to signature enabled ,) )
Well you can use your gmail account to sync between winmo and android as far as I know, google it there is a solution I think.
Or you could try this out, not sure if it auto syncs but it can migrate.
http://spb.com/android-software/migration/
Thank you,
already tried googlemail with activesync. works fine, but sms excluded.
http://spb.com/android-software/migration/ is, as always, only from winmo to android and not vice versa.
Have you thought about "MyPhoneExplorer"? Lets you sync with outlook, export SMS, etc... Then you could use activesync on the winmo side...kinda wonky but might fit you needs...
Here's that I wanted to do:
1/ Using a non-sense Android (in my case HyperDroidGBXv4.0 but will work with others)
2/ NOT using any online service (no Gmail, no google, no exchange)
3/ NOT using csv (I wanted to keep contact pictures...)
4/ Keeping a backup of my contact (but not in outlook, you'll understand why later)
5/ Synching my agenda with Outlook 2010.
In some other words, exactly what you can do with sense build + HTC Sync
My setup:
Win 7 x64
Outlook 2010 x32
DAMO 8.0.2 IF6
Lotus 8 Server (on a server... not on my laptop of course)
How to proceed on your comp:
a/ Install HTC Sync or Android SDK to get the driver for the phone's USB.
If you find it, you can also install the driver directly (open the HTCSync package and get the driver)
b/ Install my Phone Explorer (other equivalent soft exist but this one was good for me and free)
How to proceed on your phone (you need a google account empty/fresh)
I/ install android (or reset to factory setting or other...)
II/ with nothing in the phone (if you have somethingit may be send to google later) log to your google account
III/ go in parameter account&sync
IV/ untick all the sync for agenda and contact (you can leave Gmail exxcept if you want to sync your mails also)
V/ install MyPhoneExplorer on your phone (market ok, you have an account)
Voila!!!! connect to your computer, sync with MyPhoneExplorer.
Don't forget to configure the sync. I sync my contact with MPE only and my agenda with Outlook.
I do like this as I manage my agenda with outlook (accept company Lotus meetings) but just need to keep a backup of my personal contact. My company has an LDAP I can access from the phone (via iNotes Ulite).
I know it seems easy (limit stupid) but I assure you that I spent time to find it and I never find this info anywhere. Some know, I'm sure, but noone post it.
You can adapt this to your personal needs. It's a good way to keep company/professional info on your phone without sending it to the Americans (kidding but a company will never allow you to send confidential info at Google).
Hope this will help some of you. If my explanations are not clear just post your questions.
Mistake 1
If you didn't create the google account, it will not initialize the contact and agenda on the phone.
You can launch the sync (it will report no error), but you will not see anything on your phone.
Agenda: empty, if you relaunch the sync, it will resynch... with same result.
Contact: on the phone but anyway not visible in "Contact".
You will see the contact name in the "calls log" only, maybe in the sms (don't remember).
Solved
Thanks for the setup. I removed all personal settings and now it works.
Looks like i synced before the setup of a google-account.
annoyingmosquito said:
Thanks for the setup. I removed all personal settings and now it works.
Looks like i synced before the setup of a google-account.
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You're welcome. I spent a long time to find this...
Just subscribed to this thread; as a HD2 owner who plans to get a newer device in the future (better if a phone-capable tablet - Tab 2?), but still wants to keep this phone as long as possible, I was looking at Android as a future day-by-day OS, since I'm still on a WM 6.5.5 custom rom.
Other than several objections to Android generally speaking, which I will not be discussing in this post anyway, there is one which, in my opinion, is the main, killer reason why I absolutely do not want to use Android: I don't want my own personal data to be managed in anyway by google.
I didn't know MyPhoneExplorer was able to actually sync via USB the PIM data with several desktop apps, most notably Thunderbird (both contacts and agenda), I only tested Android on SD for a very short matter of time and never delved into it very much, was just astonished at the massive volume of free games in the market
Anyway, MyPhoneExplorer needs wine to run under Ubuntu (will sync to thunderbird work in that case?), and anyway, to get 100% of your PIM data from WM to Android the most conservative way still seems to be to pass through a GMail account, while I would like my phone to have no relationship with google, like, at all, excluding the market, for which it is apparently necessary.
I must say that thanks to your guide I am one step closer to seeing android as a day by day OS, yet there are these few details missing:
1) fully syncing under linux without passing through google (apparently solved: http://www.fjsoft.at/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5835 )
2) moving the whole of your data from WM to Android (maybe syncing to outlook from WM in windows, then into android via myphoneexplorer... but I don't use outlook anyway and I wouldn't like to have to )
Regarding question 1... I can't help you cause I need Outlook to connect to Lotus Notes server... I have many apps I need for my job and I'm not sure yet to have it under Linux (at least I'm sure DAMO doesn't exist for Linux... so it's finish for me).
But I can help on point 2
It could be boring but it works well.
Go on the "sprite backup" website.
They offer for free:
Sprite migrate which give the ability to transfer ALL your PIM data from WM to Android.
BUT it doesn't work with AOSP (or at least I can't make it work).
So ou have first to load a Sense build or Android NOT AOSP.
When you have your data in Android, you can either use my post to offline sync with Outlook or MPE.
Then you load the AOSP build and sync again.
Alternative solution, when your data are in Android, use another app to backup every thing (an app compatible with AOPS), load your AOSP build and restore.
If you don't use an AOSP build... it's straight and easy.
If my answer is not clear, just ask for clarification.
PS: I think spritebackup is not compatible with AOSP because I use HyperDroidGBXv4.0 so I assume it will be the same will all AOSP. I never tested with other AOSP build, maybe it's specific to the one I have.
If you use a sense build, HTCSense manage the sync with Outlook in native. No need to apply my post, no need to create or log a google account. It's the easiest way... but it take much more space inyour NAND (400Mo vs 120Mo). Then you don't have a lot of free space on an European HD2 (the 512 one).
Why, thank you for the detailed howto!
ATM I basically only sync WM6.5 only with my Windows 7 machine, yet after a mobile OS switch I'd very much like to have also my ubuntu laptop synced, and that's why I delved into the linux issue.
I reckon AOSP means Android Open Source Project, yet I'm not sure what distinguishes AOSP from NOT AOSP... could you please elaborate on that? Maybe all the releases which don't come from a certain carrier are AOSP? I suppose most if not all the android NANDs for HD2 are AOSP.
Yet, going sense just for the sake of importing data and then flashing a non-sense (pun not intended) ROM may go fine as well... even if officially sprite migrate if out of beta test, and not available, but I suppose I can easily find it "elsewhere"!! (even if it seems to migrate everything BUT calendar....)
You got me... I don't know so much Android yet.
So to be clear. I used MDJ and especially Gauner's build (good one) and on them spritebackup was working.
Then I went for HyperDroidGBXv5.0 which is the best for me (I mean for what I need from Android)... only issue... spritebackup was not working. So I imagined (maybe a not good shortcut) that it will not work on AOSP. It's written on the first post that all soft are not compatible with xxx (realize now it's maybe gingerbread instead of AOSP). Check Pongster thread, first page.
I didn't notice spritemigrate was not available anymore as I done this just once when I removed WM.
I also never noticed it can't transfer the agenda as I never backup it. If you do so, you will have all your meeting duplicate on the Lotus Server.
In fact, Outlook is my source for agenda (HD2 is just a display unit); HD2 is the source for my contact, I just keep a backup "in case".
You have to adapt all my findings to what you really need to do. But I think it's possible (maybe it required few steps as you can see).
It worth the effort when you have more than 400 contacts!!!
I don't know why I do this but I keep all sms, call logs and of course contacts from the first day of my phone.
I realize I'm maybe a little bit nuts
I do keep all that data too, mainly just to stress out my phone into being a small database
Anyway, regarding sprite products: migrate is off the hook for now, no working products for the time being as this is out of the beta testing period, and there is no official version out.
I've read somewhere (looked like a legit howto website) that you could backup PIM data with WM sprite backup, and restore it inside Android with Android Sprite backup, but it appears that information was bogus, as sprite backup in android doesn't even recognize backup files made from WM, the extension is also different, and changing the extension doesn't solve it.
So the only viable option appears to be the installation of outlook to which you have to move all the data (contacts and agenda are ok, but will outlook save sms and call logs too? don't think so), and then import that data into android with MPE. I probably will have to "borrow" outlook somewhere
I'll check if I still have the beta.
Will PM you in this case.
For sync of sms I know that I can sync my SMS with outlook under Android (MyPhoneExplorer). Careful I just see that I can configure it but I never used it (will try next week and post the result here).
I remember a soft "Jeyo something" which gave me the ability to sync SMS with outlook on WM.
It was not so stable as it sometime crashed outlook. This was due to compatibility issue with DAMO and this was much more important for me. Google it as there is different version of Jeyo, one of it is for the sync WM/Outlook (you can sync but also send&receive SMS from Outlook... except the problem with DAMO very nice tool).
The Migrate tool can actually be still downloaded off the market, as there's a BETA2 around, it's just that the program refuses to work as it's expired.
I didn't try the old method of scamming the software telling it I live in the past (like in the old PC days), but the fact that the beta is the only functioning tool, and it's expired leaving no other options is sad enough to have deprived me of the interest in using it
When I sort out the reason for which android seems to vaporize the battery as soon as I start the superram build, then I may get hold of outlook to do the sync job together with MPE... thanks for the help until now
Battery issue, you can try this build. I'm very happy with it: HyperDroidGBXv5
It's always on the first page of the NAND forum as so many people posts comments. I read it for a long time now and it has very small issues for everyone.
You just need to check if you like it or not. It required CWM... but if you manage to sync with outlook, you'll have no problem to use CWM
For the migration tool, didn't know it will expired. Lucky I move to Andoid long time ago.
truc007 said:
If you didn't create the google account, it will not initialize the contact and agenda on the phone.
You can launch the sync (it will report no error), but you will not see anything on your phone.
Agenda: empty, if you relaunch the sync, it will resynch... with same result.
Contact: on the phone but anyway not visible in "Contact".
You will see the contact name in the "calls log" only, maybe in the sms (don't remember).
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truc007 said:
Here's that I wanted to do:
1/ Using a non-sense Android (in my case HyperDroidGBXv4.0 but will work with others)
2/ NOT using any online service (no Gmail, no google, no exchange)
3/ NOT using csv (I wanted to keep contact pictures...)
4/ Keeping a backup of my contact (but not in outlook, you'll understand why later)
5/ Synching my agenda with Outlook 2010.
In some other words, exactly what you can do with sense build + HTC Sync
My setup:
Win 7 x64
Outlook 2010 x32
DAMO 8.0.2 IF6
Lotus 8 Server (on a server... not on my laptop of course)
How to proceed on your comp:
a/ Install HTC Sync or Android SDK to get the driver for the phone's USB.
If you find it, you can also install the driver directly (open the HTCSync package and get the driver)
b/ Install my Phone Explorer (other equivalent soft exist but this one was good for me and free)
How to proceed on your phone (you need a google account empty/fresh)
I/ install android (or reset to factory setting or other...)
II/ with nothing in the phone (if you have somethingit may be send to google later) log to your google account
III/ go in parameter account&sync
IV/ untick all the sync for agenda and contact (you can leave Gmail exxcept if you want to sync your mails also)
V/ install MyPhoneExplorer on your phone (market ok, you have an account)
Voila!!!! connect to your computer, sync with MyPhoneExplorer.
Don't forget to configure the sync. I sync my contact with MPE only and my agenda with Outlook.
I do like this as I manage my agenda with outlook (accept company Lotus meetings) but just need to keep a backup of my personal contact. My company has an LDAP I can access from the phone (via iNotes Ulite).
I know it seems easy (limit stupid) but I assure you that I spent time to find it and I never find this info anywhere. Some know, I'm sure, but noone post it.
You can adapt this to your personal needs. It's a good way to keep company/professional info on your phone without sending it to the Americans (kidding but a company will never allow you to send confidential info at Google).
Hope this will help some of you. If my explanations are not clear just post your questions.
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Hi and thank you very much for your share and the very useful information.
I am currently using a HD2 (OS: 5.2.21913, ROM: 3.14.707.3 & Radio: 2.15.50.14) and have always wanted to switch over to running Android on this wonderful piece of hardware.
I have experimented running the SuperRAM FroYo Version 1.5 by darkstone1337
and must say that the performance was really, really fast and impressive.
However, one major consideration that is holding me back from switching over to Andorid is the potential lost of infromation in my Contacts (600+) and Appointments. These are currently sync to Outlook 2003 and like you, I prefer to manage these directly on my computer and not through a third party like Google.
Hence, I would like to find out from you:
1. Did you have any problem syncing your Contacts and Appointments on Outlook 2010 to your HD2 running the Andorid OS?
2. Did you encounter any loss with the Contact details like single contact with multiple addresses and contact numbers?
3. Did you also managed to transfer all of your SMS from Windows Mobile to Android? If so, what software did you use?
Hope you can share your experience and thanking you in advance!
Did you m
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You mention getting the usb driver off the htc sync exe package... did you manage it, and so you can attach the driver in here?
Otherwise, as I'm downloading the almost 70MB (ach) package off htc website, I will try and get the driver off that instead. I do not plan to install that monster on my pc anyway
EDIT: I suppose there is no point in uploading ~15mb worth of stuff to megaupload, the setup exe uncompresses the BMP usb driver and HTC Driver setup in temp folders, but those files are still other installers. I didn't go as far as to exact the driver inf's, so well, good grief, just download and install htc sync
@desert1
As explained i only sync my agenda with outlook. I use the phone just to display meetings. Contact are sync with mpe just as backup. I will provide more explanations from my laptop
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truc007 said:
@desert1
As explained i only sync my agenda with outlook. I use the phone just to display meetings. Contact are sync with mpe just as backup. I will provide more explanations from my laptop
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
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Hi truc007,
Many thanks and looking forward to hear from you soon!
Cheers!
Managed to copy over agenda and contacts by "borrowing" outlook 2007, sncing to it with WM, then syncing from it to android with MPE. Outlook would crash the first time whenever it was called by MPE, but after a reboot it just worked, even if very slowly.
After that, I suppose you can ditch Outlook since you can have agenda and contacts sync through MPE with thunderbird (with lightning addon).
Anyway, I need to thank the OP "negatively": thanks to him explaining how to copy over PIM data without google poking its nose in it, I could focus on actually testing android instead of being distracted by the PIM transfer dilemma.
Doing this, I realized a shocking thruth:
Android is all fun and games, until you actually need to work with your phone.
Even PocketPC2002's excel was better than any spreadsheet app you find in the market, handbase for android is crippled to the point that any other free database in the market is equal in functionalities, and still useless for me.
And after that, I didn't go on checking alternatives to other applications I use on WM to manage my job
On the other side, when you need to do flashy things with your phone, like browsing imdb or keeping a workout/calory burning schedule, or manage your own virtual cafeteria, well android is good
It works for me, too.
Thanks
ephestione said:
Managed to copy over agenda and contacts by "borrowing" outlook 2007, sncing to it with WM, then syncing from it to android with MPE. Outlook would crash the first time whenever it was called by MPE, but after a reboot it just worked, even if very slowly.
After that, I suppose you can ditch Outlook since you can have agenda and contacts sync through MPE with thunderbird (with lightning addon).
Anyway, I need to thank the OP "negatively": thanks to him explaining how to copy over PIM data without google poking its nose in it, I could focus on actually testing android instead of being distracted by the PIM transfer dilemma.
Doing this, I realized a shocking thruth:
Android is all fun and games, until you actually need to work with your phone.
Even PocketPC2002's excel was better than any spreadsheet app you find in the market, handbase for android is crippled to the point that any other free database in the market is equal in functionalities, and still useless for me.
And after that, I didn't go on checking alternatives to other applications I use on WM to manage my job
On the other side, when you need to do flashy things with your phone, like browsing imdb or keeping a workout/calory burning schedule, or manage your own virtual cafeteria, well android is good
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So do not test WM7!!!! It's worst
The problem is that you're not the targeted customer anymore
In the past, "profesional" bought handheld devices. There were not fun but all the sync, office app... were mandatory. Now, these devices are for normal end users. At least with android you can still have a "sort of" profesional use even if it's more job than with WM6.
That's life... but for "profesional geeks" it's hard days
nb: sorry for the writing, GB is not my first language.