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Help-HID drivers from Sprint/T-mo tabs?

Since verizon delibrately screwed us out of BT keyboard functionality, I wanted to know if we could take matters into our own hands. Could someone with a sprint/Tmobile tab take a look in the file system (might have to use ASTRO file manager to get to the root files) to look for HID drivers? I would imagine that it might be worth porting to us verizon tab owners. Currently there is NO solution for verizon unable to pair with bluetooth HID devices while Sprint and T-mobile seem to do fine.
I would be happy to provide any information from the verizon side. my guess is that verizon simply left out the HID drivers that would provide any bluetooth input from a keyboard. That would explain the keyboard to be found and paired smoothly with the tab over bluetooth, and yet the input would not work.
Please help us desperate verizon owners.
ps. I thought about selling it and buying a sprint tab but with verizon cutting the price of a new tab to 499$, it makes no sense to sell it on ebay for anything more than 499, and buy a 540 sprint tab.
Thanks all.

I can tell you as a Sprint Tab owner that Sprint did the same thing. You can pair with anything you want, but you can't connect. I believe that T-Mobile and At&T have been verified to work with different keyboards, but so far only the Freedom Pro BT keyboard has been shown to work with the CDMA devices. I am hoping that the Brando BT keyboard case will work, but no one has tried it yet.

i can confirm the freedom pro works. though i had to do some work. i had to go and download the spp drivers for android from freedom input to get it to work. i did get a hid keyboard to pair but no go on it working of course. i saw in another thread someone ordered the brando keyboard but hadn't gotten it yet. Here is the link to the keyboard. i just asked them if it works on HID or SPP profile. we will see what they come back with.
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p5269c299d57.html

jkurl said:
i can confirm the freedom pro works. though i had to do some work. i had to go and download the spp drivers for android from freedom input to get it to work. i did get a hid keyboard to pair but no go on it working of course. i saw in another thread someone ordered the brando keyboard but hadn't gotten it yet. Here is the link to the keyboard. i just asked them if it works on HID or SPP profile. we will see what they come back with.
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p5269c299d57.html
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Do you have the Sprint or Verizon Tab?
The case/keyboard combo from Brando is what I really want. I have a feeling it is just HID.
There is another thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913456
They have a new kernel with Bluetooth HID enabled. I am waiting for confirmation it will work on a Verizon Tab and then will try that. It should restore HID for us.

I have the sprint tab.

What is the file name, I can pull it from my tmo tab.
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Possible work around
I wish I could test this right now, but my Tab is back at Samsung being repaired. I have a generic mini Bluetooth keyboard that wasn't working with my Tab or my Captivate. I just got it to work with the Captivate.
I downloaded the drivers for the Freedom Bluetooth Pro keyboard from their site directly through the browser on my device. After installation I had to activate the driver through the "Locale and Text" option in settings. Once activated, paired the keyboard and changed the keyboard to Freedom Pro. Keyboard worked...
I don't know if this will work on the Tab, but i can't wait to get mine back and test it. If anyone gives it a try, let us know how it worked.

The freedom pro will work w/ spp only. I have the sprint tab and got the freedom pro to work the same way you did w/ downloaded the drivers and installed.

jkurl said:
i can confirm the freedom pro works. though i had to do some work. i had to go and download the spp drivers for android from freedom input to get it to work. i did get a hid keyboard to pair but no go on it working of course. i saw in another thread someone ordered the brando keyboard but hadn't gotten it yet. Here is the link to the keyboard. i just asked them if it works on HID or SPP profile. we will see what they come back with.
http://shop.brando.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-case-with-bluetooth-keyboard_p5269c299d57.html
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I purchased and received the BRANDO keyboard 2 days ago....I did an unboxing video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LXW9HHH4eQ
This video is just the unboxing & comparing it to the Samsung keyboard. I tried pairing it today...It paired in literally 2mins but....no action when testing it out on messenger.mIam going to see if there are some solutions floating around on the net....I love the weight & form factor of this CASE/Keyboard.

I flashed my Sprint Tab with ROTO's JME and Bluetooth HID works.
I then made a backup of all files with BT, Blue, Bluetooth, etc, in the file name. (lots)
Then reflashed back to Sprint firmware, copied all the files back and no Bluetooth HID
M.

Morolinith said:
I flashed my Sprint Tab with ROTO's JME and Bluetooth HID works.
I then made a backup of all files with BT, Blue, Bluetooth, etc, in the file name. (lots)
Then reflashed back to Sprint firmware, copied all the files back and no Bluetooth HID
M.
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Have you/anyone tried this: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=blueinputandroid&tab=download
I'm working on it now..fingers crossed!

Blaqdymun said:
Have you/anyone tried this: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=blueinputandroid&tab=download
I'm working on it now..fingers crossed!
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No Luck Yet!

[Q] Keyboard and Mouse for motorola defy

I just came across a video on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fihLIwIZovY) but i would like to confirm here if any of motorola defy users are using some sort of keyboard and mouse (Bluetooth based HID) ? any market availability

I just bought a BT Keyboard with Micro-Usb Charging port. That way i dont have to carry two power cables.
I will report back when it arrives.

shorty66 said:
I just bought a BT Keyboard with Micro-Usb Charging port. That way i dont have to carry two power cables.
I will report back when it arrives.
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can you send me the links from where did you get it...even when it arrives do share how it works on defy.

I am using my trusty old Nokia SU-8W folding BT keyboard. It needed a "helper" app in 2.1 but runs perfectly in 2.2 without. Seem to be a few on ebay, though if you're in 2.2 I imagine any good BT keyboard might work. Though I would confirm before buying. I am on stock USA t-mo phone, 2.2.1 Has no mouse. Has a slide-out to stand the phone in (similar to the video), but has to be "loaded" from within the phone. ("Initiate pairing from phone"). In texting the return key actually does a "return", not send. It sits up high enough in the built-in stand to use the lower nav keys.
Copy & paste are the only things I'm still trying to sort.

Is there any keyboard in the market that also have mouse (trackpad) support which can be used on defy's browser..!!??

I bough it from ebay, here is the link.
I will report back if it works.
There are small keyboards with trackpads from the same company, too. I dont know if they work but as BT Mouses should work with 2.2 flawlessly i think these devices should work too.
As long as the device works with Android in general it should of course work with the browser too.

I think better use a PC.

Carnivoro said:
I think better use a PC.
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second that^^

no need to use them for such 3.7'' screen.

Ah, i forgot to report back.
The keyboard is working with my windows 7 pc but it is not working with my defy.
I get it to connect to the defy and show up as a connected HID device but it wont recognize any keyboard input.
I am searching for a stock rom with bt-keyboard support at the moment...
and "I think better use a PC." is just about the dumbest answer you could give.

Thanks for the update

I found here that the "freedom pro" keyboard works but when I price check, it's over $80, so no way!
supportforums.motorola.com/message/283612#283612

Its original one
http://www.store.motorola.com/Motor...olor_map,price,size_name&searchRank=salesrank

Logilink ID0070
Hi,
I bought a Logilink ID0070 bluetooth keyboard and it doesn't work. Neither in CM7, nor in CM9 I can type something on this keyboard. It is paired with my device but nevertheless it didn't want to do something else.
Is there already a solution to this problem?

Bluetooth keyboard?

I was looking for an inexpensive bluetooth keyboard, similar to this: http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggkeys-flex-tablet-keyboard-stand
Does anyone here use a keyboard with their tab?

i use one for note taking at university.it works great. never had a problem. I got one that says motorola on it. they all look the same to me. it takes 2 AA batteries and have lasted a long time so far. connects flawlessly every time. I got mine at staples a while back.

I use my Palm 3245WW Wireless keyboard with my A500. Works perfectly. The special Palm OS function keys and stuff don't work, but all the normal keyboard functions work fine. Haven't felt the need to buy anything different since this one that I've had for years works so well.

They're not at all inexpensive, but the FreedomPro keyboards are among the best I ever came across... They're almost full sized keyboards (combined number & F-keys are only half the normal size, as well as the modifiers + space) that fold in half for storage and transport. Also, this makes them quite robust... I do a lot of programming and stuff with mine, both with my laptop and my tab. What doesn't work is the phone keys, though, as the phone app is defunct on the Iconia Tab.

romagnus said:
i use one for note taking at university.it works great. never had a problem. I got one that says motorola on it. they all look the same to me. it takes 2 AA batteries and have lasted a long time so far. connects flawlessly every time. I got mine at staples a while back.
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Perfect.. Just the post I wanted to see. I was looking at the Moto one, I bought it yesterday, glad to have my decision reinforced..
Do the buttons at the top (volume control, home button, etc) work?
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Btw It's on sale for $30 on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/230735337555?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

I too have the Motorola Xoom keyboard, I think the volume keys work, can't remember, a few android specific buttons don't work though for whatever reason.

Speaking of bt keyboards. Anyone try ps3 one with trackpad ... curious if it works good?
Sent from my INFUSE powered by ZEUS

Ps3 keyboard works, both as a keyboard and as a trackpad. it took me a little while to figure out how to pair it, having never owned a ps3, but now it connects at the push of a button. Ps3 controller works well too, wired via built-in support and wireless via sixaxis app.
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When i use my keyboard .. i use:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...-7S4Ag&usg=AFQjCNHAxHzUFIDSYGVDqLFUvQ1WVqlexg

ill_dawg said:
Ps3 keyboard works, both as a keyboard and as a trackpad. it took me a little while to figure out how to pair it, having never owned a ps3, but now it connects at the push of a button. Ps3 controller works well too, wired via built-in support and wireless via sixaxis app.
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Ya i have ps3 controller / sixaxis. Can u pm me how you paired the keyboard. And do most the functions work?
Sent from my INFUSE powered by ZEUS

im using microsoft mobile keyboard 6000
works like a charm and i didnt need to change batteries since 6month
got it for 25euros in a local supermarket

I use the Logitech "Tablet Keyboard for Android 3.0+" (yup, that's the name) and it has a stand built into the case. Works great.
My wife has a SIIG bluetooth keyboard for her A500 and it also works fine (+ less expensive)

Keysonic 540RF Wireless
Just wanted to share that I have tested this keyboard. I normally use it for my HTPC and thought I would give it a try on this tablet. Works like a dream, the mouse pointer also shows up and most of the keys work.
I haven't had the chance to test all the keys yet.

If any keys don't work, they can be mapped. "KeyEvent Display" from the market will give you char codes, and if I remember right, the file to modify is /system/usr/keylayout/querty.kl or use logcat to find which one gets loaded. Then just add your new codes.

I use the Acer A500 bluetooth keyboard. Got it for less than 50 bucks and it works just fine.

I use THIS keyboard and I love it because it folds in half for easy transportation when I take it to school, but yet you still have the benefits of a "hard" keyboard, unlike those roll up silicone keyboards. I've got the black version.
You can pick it up used from Amazons Warhouse in "Like New" condition for about $33.

I've just order the iGo Bluetooth keyboard from Argos for £28.99 inc free delivery. I'll post a review when I get it!

LogiTech diNovo Mini
I use the Logitech diNovo Mini, works perfectly

same like me..not working

Can't pair Bluetooth keyboard and mouse at the same time

I originally saw this happen on Xoom devices over a year ago, but I never got the Xoom and thus didn't pay much attention to it. Now Android 4.1 is out, and I've taken the plunge with a Nexus 7. But, I still wanted to use it like a laptop in some cases, so today I finally picked up a Logitech keyboard to accompany my existing Razer Orochi. However, there's a massive conflict with this setup.
Every time I connect both of them over Bluetooth at the same time, the Orochi kicks out the keyboard, and it gets stuck in a constant loop of disconnect/reconnect. The mouse continues to work fine, but attempting any input from the keyboard during this will cause the OS to go nuts. I wish I had a better description of the behavior, but basically the app currently in focus will just refresh, quick and jerky.
When I'm in the Bluetooth settings, I can see the Orochi picked up as a mouse, but if I go into Language and Input, for some reason I can still select a keyboard layout for the Orochi. I witnessed similar behavior on my Galaxy Nexus when I paired just the Orochi by itself, basically I had no soft keyboard input while the Orochi was connected because the OS thought it was a physical keyboard.
What gives? How come Android can't differentiate a mouse from a keyboard, when it works just fine in Linux on my desktop?
Anybody else have this happen to them?

That's strange.
I've paired an Apple Wireless keyboard and mouse and it works great concurrently. No issues.
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
That's strange.
I've paired an Apple Wireless keyboard and mouse and it works great concurrently. No issues.
Cheers,
Kermee
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I haven't heard of any issues with Apple peripherals. Just a few different mice that this happens with, such as the Orochi. Reference thread.

bluetooth completely borked. fix it google!

I've been trying to get a BT mouse to work on my nexus 4.
i've now tried 2 different models, without success.
both are recognized, both pair and then both completely fail to work.
to add insult to injury, i tried one of those mice on a friend's samsung google nexus today -- also running jellybean -- and it worked perfectly.
could anybody running a BT mouse successfully SINCE THE LAST UPDATE (4.2.1) let me know what make/model they have?
EDIT: maybe they heard me ...
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...jelly-bean-update-bluetooth-fix-exclusive.htm

i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!

khanh1289 said:
i understand your frustration, but just one question.. why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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take a nexus 4 + slimport adaptor + BT mouse + BT keyboard,
add an lcd TV with hdmi input (now common in hotels etc.),
and you have:
- a portable PC
- a decent home media centre (with armchair remote input)
- possibly a productivity tool for editing text/ photos etc. for which a touchscreen is too inprecise an input device.
understand now?

Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?

sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.

shotta35 said:
Instead of doing all that why wouldn't you just go wireless display and then use the phone as the remote at the sametime? Wouldn't that make more sense?
And AFAIK, bluetooth input devices weren't supported?
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???
a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.

theabsurdman said:
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a/ i haven't a clue what "go wireless display" means.
b/ "use the phone as a remote" ... for what exactly? and how does that help me?
c/ where has google stated that "bluetooth input devices weren't supported"? that's nonsense.
re-read my previous post and try to get your head around what i am trying to achieve.
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Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
Sent from my Blenzderz 9000

khanh1289 said:
sorry, i typically use a laptop for those things. It would make a lot more sense btw. You can also use your phone as a bluetooth mouse/keyboard if you have a laptop that connects to a tv.
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... perhaps more sense to you, not me.
i don't want to carry a laptop around when i already have a computer in my pocket.
and i'm not happy with touch input devices as they are too slow and lack the precision needed for heavy editing.
these are my (not i.m.o. unreasonable) requirements of the nexus 4.

khanh1289 said:
Wow, you are quite "the absurd man". If you're trying to find help in a forum, it's best if you be a bit nicer. We're both trying to give you better alternatives to what you're trying to accomplish. To answer your questions...
A/wireless display technology is built in with the n4 and jelly bean and it's not yet widely available to most tv's yet but achievable with adapters.
B/so you don't have to carry around a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It helps you with 2 less things you carry (unless you're using a combo).
C/this one I can't back him cause I thought it is supported. Maybe it is broken, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know
Sent from my Blenzderz 9000
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getting the display to the TV is no problem -- i already have a slimport adaptor! why would i want to max out my wifi for that? it's bananas!
and i've already said that i don't want to use touch input as it's too slow and inprecise for my purposes.
my portable (igo stowaway) keyboard and notebook BT mouse are tiny (and inexpensive).
sorry to seem abrasive but you are not getting what i'm trying to achieve here.

khanh1289 said:
why are you using a bluetooth mouse on a phone? tablet, understandable but phone?!
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i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.

theabsurdman said:
i've heard other people making the tablet/ phone distinction before and i'm not sure it's a valid one. the nexus 4 surely IS a tablet, albeit with a smaller physical (not resolution) screen. what else distinguishes a tablet? i use my N4 in exactly the same way i used my asus transformer and playbook.
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In your first post you didn't clarify that you were going to hook it up to a tv, so I assume that you were planning to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard to your n4 and try to work from it's bit-smaller-than 5" display, which is highly unproductive.
N4 is technically a phone, not a tablet, by definition and specifications. I shouldn't have to explain the differences between a phone and a tablet (I'm sure there's a thread with detailed explanations)... just because it's running the same os doesn't mean it has the same hardware classification.
I understand that you want your N4 to replace your computer and the technology is very close, but not quite there yet... For simple tasks, it's good, but for anything editing, a laptop computer is highly more productive than a phone. Imagine you're doing something and you constantly receive phone calls and text messages.
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
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khanh1289 said:
Anyways, I will test this later when I get home and see if it's really broken. I know my Bluetooth moga game controller works just fine so I don't know why your mouse wouldn't.
Sent from my Blenzderz 9000
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i'd appreciate that, thanks.
my BT keyboard works fine, but no mouse that i've tried.

Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/27/changelog-whats-new-in-android-4-2-1-jop40d/
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ease-will-fix-bluetooth-a2dp-audio-streaming/

kzoodroid said:
Bluetooth is pretty much borked in all versions of Jellybean for all devices. Some things work and some things don't its pretty hit or miss. Version 4.2.1 added some drivers for game controllers but not much else so that's probably why those work and things like mice don't. There is supposed to be another fix coming in the next version but all that's known to be in there for sure is a fix for A2DP streaming.
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however, the (jellybean) samsung google nexus has no problem running a BT mouse, as i saw today.
i'd like to raise awareness of this problem with the N4 and get some more response from users, which has so far been sparse, probably because (as other posters in this thread have indicated) few see the need for a mouse.
for instance, somebody reported on another thread that they had been able to make a microsoft 5000 notebook mouse work. can anybody corroborate that?
i'm reluctant to shell out for yet another mouse considering that i'm currently holding 2 non-functioning ones.

not sure how much good it's going to do but i've opened an issue (#43918 Nexus 4 -- bluetooth mouse not working.) with the android development project:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
"bluetooth mouse not working on nexus 4 (jellybean 4.2.1)
i've tried 2 different models of bluetooth mouse. both are detected and pair, and are recognized in settings as input divices, but i get no on-screen cursor nor any mouse/ button input registed by the device. nothing.
the same mice work properly on a samsung google nexus."

i've had one response to my issue at google already.
could anybody else who is having this problem please add to that thread also?
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43918&thanks=43918&ts=1359688071#makechanges
meanwhile i'm awaiting delivery of a microsoft notebook 5000 BT mouse which has been reported to work by another poster. i'll report back on that when it arrives

UPDATE:
at last i've found a mouse that works!
the microsoft bluetooth notebook 5000