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Switch from Hero to Moment?

Okay so my wife's Palm Pre messed up and my upgrades don't come eligible until January. So, I bought a Moment off eBay for her. She doesn't care whether she uses that or my Hero.
I was considering using the Moment. I know of a forum like this to go to so I can mod and root the Moment. But I am not sure if it is better performance wise and battery wise than my Hero.
What do y'all think? Should I keep the Hero or hack into the Moment?
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better. If u go to androidmobilesupport.com they haves really good rom there called keebler and from pics of it it has a higher than stock n1 and htc desire

ubnub82 said:
I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better.
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.

Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!

stayclean said:
I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
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Then u probably don't know any1 that goes on sdx or ams. The moment is good and also been OC to 1.0.2 ghz tho it still isn't stable YET.

wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Ya I had the lockup but most newer Roms have a lockup fix. If they don't u can find a zip for it

wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Sense overhead plus a faster stock processor.

Since you have both phones you might as well root the moment, but I came from that and have had my hero for about a month now. There is no real fix for the lockups, the "fix" just slows the lockups down. I am happier with my hero than the moment, the hero seems do d/l faster and better music quality with pandora through the headphone jack. Either phone is good I just could not deal with a few lockups a day with my old moments (I had it replaced 5 times). Either way you go good luck.

The Samsung Moment is by far the WORST Android phone I have ever had the misfortune of having to help my parents manage. My father decided to surprise out family with Android phones, and thankfully, he got me a Hero.

the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.

fixxxer2008 said:
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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Well, I should get the Moment tomorrow in the mail. I am going o load a custom rom on it. I will post a review of my findings.
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Well a few days ago I recieved the Moment and I swapped my phone to that and I gave my wife my Hero.
I reloaded the latest 2.1 Fresh for her because she actually likes Sense.
I fiddled around with a few roms for the Moment from other websites. Right now I am using the latest Keebler 2.1 rom and updated kernel and it runs great.
I haven't received any data lockups, the rom goes from 800-66mHz. Battery life is great and I am getting constant 9.0+ mflops on linpack and near 500's on quadrant.
So, overall I am happy witht the swap from the Hero to the Moment.
BTW, I must say that the Moment's screen is actually awesome!!!

I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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Its a good phone I haven't had a lockup in weeks I have noobnls radioactive rom ext2 and I sometimes overclocked to 1066ghz
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Where did you go to get the rooting info and rom for the moment? My wife has one and its slow as crap and the battery only lasts about 4 hours.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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I did go over there and look at it...... All I can say is THANK GOD I elected to get a Hero instead of the Moment when I was given the opportunity to get out from under the POC TP2's I had. Yes I know it was a downgrade in money and I lost out on it,but if I had half as much trouble as what some of the posters over there are saying about it after going through 5 TP2's ..I would have gone postal at the repair center..... I wish you all the luck with it and no data lock ups or home key issues..
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Most of the problems I have (had) with the moment is harrdware based problems. And samsung is the reason. I am more or less neew to this so can someone tell me a way to backup the apps and not just the save info for them? This is the 3rd one of these things I have been through in 5 months and next is hell if I don't get another actual phone. I guess I need to find a coustom rom to run so it will stablize.
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james33440 said:
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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wow.. my girlfriend has a moment and shes always talkin about how terrible it is. im trying to get her to trust me and let me root it and load a custom rom. if i do im gonna throw the keebler rom on it. 1060mhz, 10+ mflops?? i think i might steal her phone.

Didn't like the moment because of the slide-out keyboard

[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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iSaint said:
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

063_XOBX said:
YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

063_XOBX said:
I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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What is considered a defect on this phone?

I still have my phone under the manufacturer warranty and it has been acting wonky lately. I want a new vibrant and I am just wondering what is considered a defect? Im thinking about flashing back to stock and saying my GPS doesn't work, and also I have light leakage from LED buttons. Thanks.

what is "wonky" about it?
Maybe we can fix it... I don't like the idea of helping get a new phone, just for the sake of getting a new phone.
This (and other reasons) are why phone costs so dang much.

Smh...
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s15274n said:
what is "wonky" about it?
Maybe we can fix it... I don't like the idea of helping get a new phone, just for the sake of getting a new phone.
This (and other reasons) are why phone costs so dang much.
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Exactly, if it is indeed defective then by all means get an exchange. But if it just running slow then it can prolly get fixed with a flash. I process so many warranty exchanges that in all honesty there was nothing physically wrong with it. A simply odin to stock fixes them.
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Marvlet said:
Exactly, if it is indeed defective then by all means get an exchange. But if it just running slow then it can prolly get fixed with a flash. I process so many warranty exchanges that in all honesty there was nothing physically wrong with it. A simply odin to stock fixes them.
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And if you are willing to try, check my signature for going back to stock... files and a guide for you.

Random restarts, GPS still doesnt work at all, light leakage on buttons and screen. Ive tried numerous ROMs and I am still having issues with GPS. Ive went to stock and while it fixed my problems with restarts, stock was just to laggy so I went back to custom ROMs, GPS still doesn't work.
I am also having signal problems. Me and my friend bought a vibrant the same day and we have tested in the same room that his gets better reception. In a room where he has H, I am only on Edge. This isn't a problem with the ROM because we are both running Bionix.
If there is any way to fix my GPS/Signal issues then by all means tell me and I wont send my phone in for a replacement.
EDIT: Thank you guys for the help. Could ROMs effect signal/GPS? Like I said above when I compared with my friends phone under the same conditions (same room, same ROM) i was only on Edge and he had H. I've tried Trigger, MIUI, and CM7 and still don't have 3G or H in places my friend does.
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Smh...
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Thank you for the input I'm glad you gave me some good information as to fixing my phone/getting a replacement.

ROMs COULD be a reason since they have different modems... but if you guys were on the same rom and didnt change the modem, then no....
I have best luck on KB1.
I would ODIN to JFD, root, Flash Trigger and see how your signal/gps goes... if not great, flash the KB1 modem over it (dev section) and see if any better.
If you look in my tips/tricks (first link in signature) there is a fix I do for GPS. Sometimes on a new ROM when it DOES NOT work, I have to do that to make it work. Other roms, it works right after flashing... no real rhyme or reason.
If you want a new phone, i am certain you could get one based off what you said already..... but I would not be surprised if you could make it 100% right.

s15274n said:
If you want a new phone, i am certain you could get one based off what you said already..... but I would not be surprised if you could make it 100% right.
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not to mention the refurb you get could have the same problems or worse.

Refurbished is what you will get, there are no more "new" Vibrants.
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For gps try this http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/21/t-mobile-samsung-vibrant-galaxy-s-gps-issues-fix-tutorial/
I am using stock KB5, it helped me get a lock in 15-30 sec.
edit: I did mess with gps.conf from hd2 forum, dont know if that helped too.

Is there any stable rom available?

I have tried every custom 2.3 rom available, but none of them is stable.
Will we get the official 2.3 rom?
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There are rumors of an official asian gingerbread version, yes.
Source: fards

Hope it is true...
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MySeLfPT said:
There are rumors of an official asian gingerbread version, yes.
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No asian is getting GB update dude.
'em from India and when ask dell ppl they passout

Besides, unlocked Streaks direct from Dell would be the first to get such an update since ROMs for those units don't have to be modified by the carriers to add carrier bloatware before being released.

well... i am not here to defend it. It is a rumor after all... everybody belives in what they want to belive.

2.2.2 stable
Is gingerbread "really" needed?
Yeah, who wouldn't want the latest & greatest OS for our device, but, just for me, 2.2.2 (purchased direct from Dell, unlocked) is smooth as silk.
It came with 1.6, up'd to 2.1, then 2.2.2 and with the script tweak, it's smooth as silk. Does it get 10,000 on the benchmarks? Nope, not hardly, but I can run it for a week at a time, no lock ups, only the once in a while app FC, so I have to ask myself, does it do what it is suppose to do? YES. What benefits would I gain from updating to GB or HC? Probably not much other than some eye candy.
This gadget is my business device 75% of the time and I don't have time to constantly reboot, reinstall, wipe everything out.
I guess I'm among the minority.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Besides, unlocked Streaks direct from Dell would be the first to get such an update since ROMs for those units don't have to be modified by the carriers to add carrier bloatware before being released.
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In india its unlocked one . The so called EU MDL
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Well, if it came from Dell, it will get the update first, which is my entire point. If it comes from a carrier, you have to wait.

You are not alone, p51d..... I bought a Nexus 1 back when they first came out..... After a couple of months, I got REALLY tired of not having pinch-to-zoom in the browser..... so I decided to root it and install a custom ROM that would give me that capability. Although technically the ROM install was successful, the phone's battery life immediately plummeted to about 3-hours (from a full charge). When the lcd started becoming cloudy (probably from overheating due to a half-baked ROM), I sent it back to Google for replacement. 2-weeks later it arrived freight COLLECT, along with a letter from Google saying because it had been modified, the warranty was void. That was a $600 lesson I learned the hard way.
When I read here where people want to change some minor feature and root their Streaks, then run into major problems and expect others to fix it, I just have to smile to myself. I mean is it really worth destroying your phone just to get a fraction of a millisecond faster processor speed?
I bought my Streak factory-unlocked from Dell, and because of my past experience, I would never root it, especially since it's my only phone/pocket-sized link to the outside world. When the warranty expires, I'll probably get something else. But my factory-installed Froyo OS is smooth as silk. It's not lightning fast, but I don't have an extra $550 that I can blow to make it faster LOL
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SHildebrandt said:
You are not alone, p51d..... I bought a Nexus 1 back when they first came out..... After a couple of months, I got REALLY tired of not having pinch-to-zoom in the browser..... so I decided to root it and install a custom ROM that would give me that capability. Although technically the ROM install was successful, the phone's battery life immediately plummeted to about 3-hours (from a full charge). When the lcd started becoming cloudy (probably from overheating due to a half-baked ROM), I sent it back to Google for replacement. 2-weeks later it arrived freight COLLECT, along with a letter from Google saying because it had been modified, the warranty was void. That was a $600 lesson I learned the hard way.
When I read here where people want to change some minor feature and root their Streaks, then run into major problems and expect others to fix it, I just have to smile to myself. I mean is it really worth destroying your phone just to get a fraction of a millisecond faster processor speed?
I bought my Streak factory-unlocked from Dell, and because of my past experience, I would never root it, especially since it's my only phone/pocket-sized link to the outside world. When the warranty expires, I'll probably get something else. But my factory-installed Froyo OS is smooth as silk. It's not lightning fast, but I don't have an extra $550 that I can blow to make it faster LOL
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Rooting never hurts unless you have no idea what you are doing. ( I had to say this )
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So Streakowner, what you mean is how well the phone functions after it's been rooted (even "correctly" rooted), has NOTHING to do with the ROM installed on it? With all due respect, I beg to differ with you on that point.... please explain further
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So Streakowner, what you mean is how well the phone functions after it's been rooted (even "correctly" rooted), has NOTHING to do with the ROM installed on it? With all due respect, I beg to differ with you on that point.... please explain further
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if you refer to rooting as only having the su and busybox installed then , you are wrong, but if you meant that installing custom ROMs is bad practice , I do agree totally with you, you never know what is inside the complied libwebcore.so for example, can just be anything there, even some nasty code you aren't aware but your bank will insist it was you who ordered that item from Ebay .
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I should have clarified that, streakOwner..... my bad ... You are correct...... Rooting alone did not destroy my Nexus...... the culprit, no doubt, was my choice of which ROM to install.... Nonetheless, it did void the warranty...... To borrow an overused phrase, "Other than that, Mrs, Lincoln, how was the play"? LOL
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To expand on what he said, the usual modules added from rooting are:
SU
Superuser.apk
Busybox
Sometimes bash.
By themselves they dont do anything, on a rooted system with no root able apps it's functionally the same as not being rooted.
It depends entirely on what apps are doing that requires root permissions to accomplish.
It's like buying a bad battery that will explode. If you dont ever charge it and put it in your phone nothing will happen, it's just a plastic brick until then.
Rooting would be the equivilent to removing the battery cover and installing it vs having it taped shut.

Good analogy, Manii..... Unfortunately, my need to have pinch-to-zoom on my Nexus basically ended up costing me the phone. Had I waited for an update, or installed a different ROM, I maybe could have avoided disaster......
Just from looking around here, it seems the vast majority of custom ROMs are slightly, if not overly, buggy (IMO..... I mean, look at the title of this thread). I had an old HD2 awhile back that I would flash different ROMs to, just for kicks.... but it wasn't my main phone. Prior to that, I unlocked our iPhones (relatively simple), so I thought installing a different ROM on the Nexus couldn't be all that difficult..... The root/ROM install was simple enough, but the real trick with Android is finding a custom ROM that actually works 100%. That's why I took issue with streakOwner's "if you know what you're doing" comment. I should've clarified the Nexus problem was totally ROM-related..... not a "pbk&c" issue (Problem Between Keyboard & Chair) LOL
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im running a stock but rooted streak, couldnt be more happy.. only needed root for blocking ads, and to change fonts etc. swtich between this and my infuse..

Hey SpiritCrush..... Not to veer off-topic here, but how do you like your Infuse? T-Mobile is getting the Galaxy S2 on Friday (4.65-inch screen version), and I have a line on my Family Plan that's up for renewal.... so I might consider getting one (I'm going to renew that line anyway).... Not sure I can live with "TouchWiz" though.... Humm.... that one might be worth rooting just to disable TouchWiz (how's that to segway back on topic?)
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im running a stock but rooted streak, couldnt be more happy.. only needed root for blocking ads, and to change fonts etc. swtich between this and my infuse..
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Co-sign. I run 354 rooted and I never have any problems, and I use this as my only device.

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I have tried every custom 2.3 rom available, but none of them is stable.
Will we get the official 2.3 rom?
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I also tried every 2.3 rom available, only the simplestreak seems to be an unofficial stable rom, but not "rock solid" as I noticed sometimes it freezes expecially while using ADW launcher.

Try to get a new phone.

Last week my wife and I went to a sprint store because her moment was having problems. The person there offered her a different phone but out of the list her phone was the best. I have read about people getting different phone by complaining about the epic and with all of its problem. I do have insurence on my phone. I was wondering what people think my chance of getting a differnt phone is? I have had it replaced once. I have been really happy with the dev community here and if samsung had programmers half as good as the ones here we would see ICS on our phone by the end of the year. Also does anyone know what the other phone options are available for a replacement for the epic?
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Also not looking for an insurance fraud case to swap. Saw that with one of these threads before.
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it depends on the manager at the time. when my samsung moment was going out(which has flash) non of the phones offered did. i begged, just poked my head in 3 times a week to see if they chagned the list. i know i bugged, but if i wanted no flash i would have stuck with my treo 755p.
in short it really depends who is there help you, if you complain, the squeaking wheel gets the oil first as my dad says.
i went from moment to transform btw

I know going in to the store means going back to stock. Does anyone know if I can do this over the phone with sprint?
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epic 4g is great for me

Paris6906 said:
I know going in to the store means going back to stock. Does anyone know if I can do this over the phone with sprint?
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it will take some time but is possible eventually. How far from stock are you currently? If it's just rooted with a different launcher they won't care most likely.

tubasteve said:
it depends on the manager at the time. when my samsung moment was going out(which has flash) non of the phones offered did. i begged, just poked my head in 3 times a week to see if they chagned the list. i know i bugged, but if i wanted no flash i would have stuck with my treo 755p.
in short it really depends who is there help you, if you complain, the squeaking wheel gets the oil first as my dad says.
i went from moment to transform btw
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Did adobe rewrite flash player to support the Samsung moment? I'm 100% sure that the moment's chipset does not support flash that's why I got an epic. But html5 works fine on the moment which I found out about 2 months ago.
but if flash does work can you post a link to where you got flash from? I searched on sdx and they all confirmed flash doesn't work.

If I remember correctly it will work, just not ideally. The jit compiler was not optimized for Flash support on Eclair, but it would function. This is all fuzzy, someone please correct me if necessary.