I'm considering selling my MyTouch3g 32a for a HD2 device... But, I need to know some things before I make this move.
It looks like you can't yet replace the WinMo 6.5 with Android, so it has to run off SD. At least that's what I can infer. How does this effect performance?
Is battery life good on the HD2? My MyTouch3g can get about 17-18 hours off the charger.
What does and doesn't work on the HD2 running Android? Any quirks I should know about? ...Is it stable and reliable enough to be a daily driver?
Also since I'm on T-Mobile, I'd be looking for a T-Mobile branded HD2... does this matter?
Sorry for all the noob questions.
replacing winmo will be possible in near future by a nand rom. i guess noone knows by now what will work better with a nand rom. most people think that battery life time will increase dramatically, but i won't count on that...
for me, running android from sd-card has no disadvantages but as i said before, we have to wait for nand roms.
with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
as far as i know there is just one big and some small issues with android on hd2:
big one: data disconnects with ppp. this is nearly fixed for me with S1 kernel, but approx. once a day i still get data lost...
small one(s): very few touchscreen freezes (escpecially when trying to answer a call).
just now i can't remember other issues, but since about 2 months winmo is just used for booting android on my hd2.
my conclusion: android is a very well daily driver
fruchtfliege said:
replacing winmo will be possible in near future by a nand rom. i guess noone knows by now what will work better with a nand rom. most people think that battery life time will increase dramatically, but i won't count on that...
for me, running android from sd-card has no disadvantages but as i said before, we have to wait for nand roms.
with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
as far as i know there is just one big and some small issues with android on hd2:
big one: data disconnects with ppp. this is nearly fixed for me with S1 kernel, but approx. once a day i still get data lost...
small one(s): very few touchscreen freezes (escpecially when trying to answer a call).
just now i can't remember other issues, but since about 2 months winmo is just used for booting android on my hd2.
my conclusion: android is a very well daily driver
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Thank you for the info.
What does "data disconnects with ppp" mean? and if this happens, what do I do to resolve it? Throw into airplane and out of airplane mode?
you're welcome. as far as i know there are two internet protocols:
rmnet and ppp. because of low speed, rmnet seems to be vanished in nearly all builds. the good thing about it was stability! ppp has the opposite properties: very fast but till now a bit unstable.
data disconnects means that it's not down- or uploading any data while connection seems to be established regular. as you guessed right, you can handle it with airplane mode or by disconnecting and reconnecting internet connection. there is also a (semi)fix for that, which will reconnect for you automatically. but i'm pretty sure that this data loss problem will be gone in the near future (devs are still working on it).
p.s: sorry for my poor english, i hope you understand everything.
As for me it is very usable on a daily basis. I didn't think it was possible until I started flashing Android. Everything is great except for what fruchtfliege was saying. But even then, I have never gone back to Winmo.
fruchtfliege: is your LED notification light working properly? Mine only lights up once and that's it.
compared to that old 32a, the hd2 is an absolute monster!
theres an ocational minor glitch, but nothing like things were on ported roms on a dream/saphire....
its smooth sailing...
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with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
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sorry a bit out of topic: can i install mdeejay kernel to my mccm build? and where can i find it? thanks.
I'm using the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build and i haven't found anything not working at all. The battery last longer than it did on winMO. Been using this build constantly for about a month now, apart from the odd reboot I've had nothing but fun and games
I would personnaly recommend this build also.
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I'm using the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build and i haven't found anything not working at all. The battery last longer than it did on winMO. Been using this build constantly for about a month now, apart from the odd reboot I've had nothing but fun and games
I would personnaly recommend this build also.
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no ppp disconnects?
Thanks for all the replies, this has been real helpful in my decision and will probably grab a HD2 when/if a WP7 rom comes out just to have the best of both worlds in my pocket.
One last question, I see the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build mentioned here, but I'n not a fan of sense. Is there a CyanogenMod port that's really stable?
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Thanks for all the replies, this has been real helpful in my decision and will probably grab a HD2 when/if a WP7 rom comes out just to have the best of both worlds in my pocket.
One last question, I see the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build mentioned here, but I'n not a fan of sense. Is there a CyanogenMod port that's really stable?
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i'm using mccm and it's great (especially the looks) except for internet drops.
fruchtfliege: is your LED notification light working properly? Mine only lights up once and that's it.
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you're right. this seems to be another small bug. mine's not working properly, too. doesn't matter much for me, because i never used the led lights as indicator for calls.
sorry a bit out of topic: can i install mdeejay kernel to my mccm build? and where can i find it? thanks.
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i'm not sure which build mccm is, but if it's from mdeejay it SHOULD work (as posted in his kernel thread)
The LED notification light 'usually' works fine for me. Under 30% battery and it stays lit though
Only thing that doesn't really work is the camera on HD builds.
So far I've been disconnect free since I changed to S3 kernel from Mdeej - however I also disabled the stock tab and uninstalled my taskkiller which might've helped.
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The LED notification light 'usually' works fine for me. Under 30% battery and it stays lit though
Only thing that doesn't really work is the camera on HD builds.
So far I've been disconnect free since I changed to S3 kernel from Mdeej - however I also disabled the stock tab and uninstalled my taskkiller which might've helped.
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Which build are you using? You mean it works for missed calls and sms?
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So, i have a htc hd2 running on android and i love it.
However, when lock my phone using the end call button or something.
I would look back at it after a while and the screen will stay black.
I try pressing the keys and nothing happens.
When i call the phone, it rings but i can't use the touch screen or see it.
It happens quite frequently. The android i have is darkstone froyo.
So it works but pretty frequently, the screen would go off and stay black.
What do i do?
Unfortunately threads like this are completely pointless unless you were to elaborate on which version of HD2 you have, which RADIO you have, which build you have, the current zImage, which Windows ROM you have.....
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So, i have a htc hd2 running on android and i love it.
However, when lock my phone using the end call button or something.
I would look back at it after a while and the screen will stay black.
I try pressing the keys and nothing happens.
When i call the phone, it rings but i can't use the touch screen or see it.
It happens quite frequently. The android i have is darkstone froyo.
So it works but pretty frequently, the screen would go off and stay black.
What do i do?
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I wanted to see if Android would work on my HD2 before flashing a rom and changing my phone but I have this same problem as well.
I boot up Android and eventually I put the phone to sleep with the end call button and I can see the screen goes black but I can tell the backlight is still on. Then I try to unlock my phone and it never wakes up no matter which buttons I press. I eventually have to take out the battery to reset the phone back to windows mobile
Then again... I am also just running the U.S. T-mobile version with stock windows mobile 6.5 out of the box with no flashed rom with radio version 2.10.50.26
I will be looking over the sticky thread and doing the full conversion today but if anyone knows why it does this I would like to know so it doesnt happen even after I do it the correct way.
ooops. accidently replied by accident.
Same problem here.. I'm using chuckydroidrom, shubcraft 1.5 , radio 2.10.50.26 , have tried almost all the builds, radio versions, but result the same... would really like to know if anyone else has the same problem.
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Same problem here. I tried on two hd2 phones. Everything is works fine but i cant end a call because the phone freezing. I'm using 2.15.50.14 radio and magldr113.
I gave up on the sd androids and went with a nand build, much more stable much better battery! Research builds READ THE POST and find one folks have the least trouble with.
I am currently using Motoman234's Moto-Mytouch4G V3.3 based on Iced Glacier by teamsilence. Shear brilliance in my opinion! i have tmous as well this nand for me is flawless. Everything works great and my battery will easily last the day. I had been using Darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 but the battery drain was murder. Great build beautiful and feature packed but not usable for me due to enormous battery drain. Ya installing them takes more (install hspl then magldr, then clockwork mod THEN the nand) but well worth the effort plus once all that is done you can change builds easily.
so far the core Droid series is great the v1.4 is fast and stable!! i can get up to 2500 on quadrant scores love it so much
pburstrom said:
I gave up on the sd androids and went with a nand build, much more stable much better battery! Research builds READ THE POST and find one folks have the least trouble with.
I am currently using Motoman234's Moto-Mytouch4G V3.3 based on Iced Glacier by teamsilence. Shear brilliance in my opinion! i have tmous as well this nand for me is flawless. Everything works great and my battery will easily last the day. I had been using Darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 but the battery drain was murder. Great build beautiful and feature packed but not usable for me due to enormous battery drain. Ya installing them takes more (install hspl then magldr, then clockwork mod THEN the nand) but well worth the effort plus once all that is done you can change builds easily.
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Actually, if you know what you're doing and make sure there's not anything unnecessarily draining your battery, SD builds and NAND builds have pretty much the same battery life. You may be able to get slightly better battery with nand, but not a noticeable amount. I get 3-6ma battery drain on standby with most SD builds I've used. Performance isn't much different with SD builds, either. Main pros of using NAND is you can use clockwork recovery and can change SD cards while using android. If you're not going to use winmo or wp7, you might as well use NAND android, but if you still use winmo or wp7, it's probably not worth losing those for the small bonuses you get with NAND.
I used NAND android for a month when it was first released, but I'm back to SD builds because I have WP7 on my NAND... and I can notice no difference in the performance and battery life.
I am using a SD build and have no problems with it. As long as you're smart with it you will be fine.
To answer the op's question, I would upgrade your radio first. It's too low of a version.
Second, what rom are you using?
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I am using a SD build and have no problems with it. As long as you're smart with it you will be fine.
To answer the op's question, I would upgrade your radio first. It's too low of a version.
Second, what rom are you using?
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Your do realize this thread is about 6 months old
Upgrade your radio its solving your problem.. just try that trust me it works ...
HD2 TMOUSA
rom : TyphoonCyanogenMod 7
radio: 2.15.50.14
LINTEAM LEADER(gpu dev)
It was near the top of my unread threads page? Somebody replied to it, not me and I found that nobody answered the op and were instead discussing the pro/cons of NAND vs SD.
Sorry that I didn't check the date of the thread before posting.
zarathustrax said:
Actually, if you know what you're doing and make sure there's not anything unnecessarily draining your battery, SD builds and NAND builds have pretty much the same battery life. You may be able to get slightly better battery with nand, but not a noticeable amount. I get 3-6ma battery drain on standby with most SD builds I've used. Performance isn't much different with SD builds, either. Main pros of using NAND is you can use clockwork recovery and can change SD cards while using android. If you're not going to use winmo or wp7, you might as well use NAND android, but if you still use winmo or wp7, it's probably not worth losing those for the small bonuses you get with NAND.
I used NAND android for a month when it was first released, but I'm back to SD builds because I have WP7 on my NAND... and I can notice no difference in the performance and battery life.
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While I agree SD is better if you want to keep windows I disagree strongly on the battery life, at least on the SD builds I used. I would shut down bg data, wifi, bluetooth, location, and data when it was not in use but still had horrible battery drain (50 to 60 ma sleeping) and could never make a full day with out a charge. Now wifi and bg data stays on always I seldom NEED a recharge most days I can get nearly 2 days out of my battery. I tried different "battery savers" to no avail, applied every patch the developers suggested and researched extensively.
IMO "Know what you're doing" is a rather obnoxious statement.
In my experience, it seems to depend on the build. It may seem trite, but there are tradeoffs in all the available builds and different people do fine on those that suck juice, because certain features they want are there. I like the SD versions because sometimes I need WinMo, and it's easy to move between them.
So I'm thinking about ditching my MyTouch Slide [Espresso] and jumping over to the HD2, since my friend did that a few months ago, and he's been experiencing nothing but good things, but I still have a few questions to ask the general Android HD2 community, since apparently the HD2 is more supported than the Nexus One.
[Sorry, TONS of questions here]
How does the battery normally hold up? I know it depends on the rom [Sense drains battery like a *****, I know from personal experience], but I'm asking about generalities here. On light usage, does your phone last for 12 hours? 10?
What is still the most generally buggy feature on the HD2, regardless of ROM? Wifi? Bluetooth? Camera? In other words, what usually doesn't work and/or is the most buggy?
Do most market apps work for the HD2? Because I know certain apps are optimized for certain phones, and I'm wondering what apps usually work/don't work.
Is the touch screen REALLY that receptive? I hear that it's one of the best on any Android-running phone.
and finally...
What is the maximum STABLE overclock you can push onto the HD2?
Sorry for the tons and tons of questions. I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing before dropping $250 on a phone, lol.
Ok gonna do my best here. With wifi off I easily get 10+ with medium usage. Wifi, bluetooth, all work fine, still have data freezes using ppp but they getting to be few and far between. Still have touch screen freezes occasionally but you just wait a sec and all is well again. Touch screen us very responsive.. Every app I have tried has installed with no problems. My hd2 oc's stable to 1.113 ghz which is plenty for me, some will even go to 1.28 oc, just depends in the phone. Things are getting better every week of development. So in conclusion (never used a mt slide) if you can handle a strictly touch screen phone. And like to try new builds go for it.. I'm sure you won't be disappointed
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squish099 said:
Ok gonna do my best here. With wifi off I easily get 10+ with medium usage. Wifi, bluetooth, all work fine, still have data freezes using ppp but they getting to be few and far between. Still have touch screen freezes occasionally but you just wait a sec and all is well again. Touch screen us very responsive.. Every app I have tried has installed with no problems. My hd2 oc's stable to 1.113 ghz which is plenty for me, some will even go to 1.28 oc, just depends in the phone. Things are getting better every week of development. So in conclusion (never used a mt slide) if you can handle a strictly touch screen phone. And like to try new builds go for it.. I'm sure you won't be disappointed
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What rom are you running?
Android: cmy's tmous blue topia. Winmo.. I don't remember, its a full rom with cht2.0...
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GoCkillaz said:
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[Sorry, TONS of questions here]
How does the battery normally hold up? I know it depends on the rom [Sense drains battery like a *****, I know from personal experience], but I'm asking about generalities here. On light usage, does your phone last for 12 hours? 10?
What is still the most generally buggy feature on the HD2, regardless of ROM? Wifi? Bluetooth? Camera? In other words, what usually doesn't work and/or is the most buggy?
Do most market apps work for the HD2? Because I know certain apps are optimized for certain phones, and I'm wondering what apps usually work/don't work.
Is the touch screen REALLY that receptive? I hear that it's one of the best on any Android-running phone.
and finally...
What is the maximum STABLE overclock you can push onto the HD2?
Sorry for the tons and tons of questions. I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing before dropping $250 on a phone, lol.
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Battery life for me is about 28-30 hours with average use (about an hour of calls, couple dozen emails, and an hour or so of music, 3G connected all the time, and about an hour browsing). Calibration is the key to getting good battery life. Even with heavy usage (3 hours calls, 2 hours music, Wifi connected four hours and heavy browsing and some gaming) My battery still lasts over 12 hours.
Most buggy... depends really on ROM. The build I'm using now (see sig) is [knock on wood] pretty flawless. I've not had an error in the three days I've been using it so far, but not everyone is as lucky as me. Your milage WILL vary. Some roms work perfect for some and are horrendous for others.
Again, I've not found an app that doesn't work yet. HD2 is a top of the line spec phone, so if something doesn't work on it, the app itself is usually at fault.
The touch screen is AMAZING, easily the best I've used and compares well to the Desire HD's screen.
Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?
Reno_79 said:
Battery life for me is about 28-30 hours with average use (about an hour of calls, couple dozen emails, and an hour or so of music, 3G connected all the time, and about an hour browsing). Calibration is the key to getting good battery life. Even with heavy usage (3 hours calls, 2 hours music, Wifi connected four hours and heavy browsing and some gaming) My battery still lasts over 12 hours.
Most buggy... depends really on ROM. The build I'm using now (see sig) is [knock on wood] pretty flawless. I've not had an error in the three days I've been using it so far, but not everyone is as lucky as me. Your milage WILL vary. Some roms work perfect for some and are horrendous for others.
Again, I've not found an app that doesn't work yet. HD2 is a top of the line spec phone, so if something doesn't work on it, the app itself is usually at fault.
The touch screen is AMAZING, easily the best I've used and compares well to the Desire HD's screen.
Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?
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Ok, this was REALLY helpful. What Quadrant score do you usually get?
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
GoCkillaz said:
Ok, this was REALLY helpful. What Quadrant score do you usually get?
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
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Quadrant scores are useless too. They really just measure how modified your kernel is to fit the test - it doesn't really translate to real life usage at all.
I have tried pretty much every build there is and I have settled on the CM6 builds being the most stable and smoothest. I started using Shubcraft(RMNET) in August and since then I tried out all kinds of Sense builds. After a day or two with the sense builds I always got tired of the lag that there is in sense, or other problems like the camera not working in some sense builds, or the PPP connection being so unstable.
I am now using Michyprima's daily CM6 build. It is very stable, I get through a day(8am-10pm) everyday even w/ pretty heavy use. My only complaint is that there are still TS freezes (even though I read they are supposed to be fixed), the PPP data connection freezes too frequently, and sometimes the screen takes a little while to wake up.
The phone is quite usable for day to day use, but it isn't free of bugs like your MT Slide is.
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Quadrant scores are useless too. They really just measure how modified your kernel is to fit the test - it doesn't really translate to real life usage at all.
I have tried pretty much every build there is and I have settled on the CM6 builds being the most stable and smoothest. I started using Shubcraft(RMNET) in August and since then I tried out all kinds of Sense builds. After a day or two with the sense builds I always got tired of the lag that there is in sense, or other problems like the camera not working in some sense builds, or the PPP connection being so unstable.
I am now using Michyprima's daily CM6 build. It is very stable, I get through a day(8am-10pm) everyday even w/ pretty heavy use. My only complaint is that there are still TS freezes (even though I read they are supposed to be fixed), the PPP data connection freezes too frequently, and sometimes the screen takes a little while to wake up.
The phone is quite usable for day to day use, but it isn't free of bugs like your MT Slide is.
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Free of bugs? Haha how funny. The Froyo Sense build I'm running has no keyboard lights, a few buttons don't work, and the browser force closes if java is enabled.
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
lol at the above. And just to reiterate, any and all benchmark scores are ultimately pointless. It's how it actually performs which only you can judge, not be told by a bunch of numbers which can be synthetically bumped up and still produce a competely unstable heap of poo.
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Free of bugs? Haha how funny. The Froyo Sense build I'm running has no keyboard lights, a few buttons don't work, and the browser force closes if java is enabled.
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
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I'm just letting you know that I have used my girlfriends mt slide, and it is less buggy than Android on the HD2. If you are complaining about the bugs in that phone then android on the HD2 isn't for you.
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Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?
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for this statement you have been awarded the "i dont know **** about technology" prize !
grats !
u can well notice the improvement in all programs that push the phone to its limits ie : gameloft games , pocket legends , browser with flash , homescreen smoothness(only with sense)
also , u know whats the difference between ati hd4870 and 4890 ? nothing , but the clockrate , try telling any1 who works with technology clockrate is pointless .. oh wait u already did
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for this statement you have been awarded the "i dont know **** about technology" prize !
grats !
u can well notice the improvement in all programs that push the phone to its limits ie : gameloft games , pocket legends , browser with flash , homescreen smoothness(only with sense)
also , u know whats the difference between ati hd4870 and 4890 ? nothing , but the clockrate , try telling any1 who works with technology clockrate is pointless .. oh wait u already did
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And you've been awarded the "I don't know jack about phones" prize too. I know full well that overclocking a processor increases cycles per second and overall throughput but that means absolutely nothing unless all you care about is benchmarks. I prefer to have a stable phone that doesn't reboot on me ever, and plays EVERYTHING ON THE MARKET perfectly, thanks. Go troll elsewhere. And maybe you should listen to the kernel devs who say overclocking is NOT necessary.
Hi Guys
I would like to inform you guys I have found best perfomace build+kernal
I have tried various builds with various kernals for last couple of weeks.either I had battery drainage or stoppage or data corruption or laggy problems
Finally best one I tried is
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 with update.kernel.hastarin.16.12.2010.Works perfect. battery usage is great to be honest with you better than window ROM and less laggy. no corrupted data or sudden stoppages.
Try guys.I bet this will be the best combination built I have ever tried.
Thanx Mdeejay and hasterin
what about RAM based built mdjay....?
And what's up with radio, sd-card, wm rom and such stuff?
Pretty subjective post and not really helpfull.
My radio 2.15
windows version 3.14
latest window version from HTC
first downloaded mdeejays and then extracted
then downloaded latest kernal from hasterin then copied into andriod .
thats it.best performance
imho its a useless post.
Best performance is very subjective
Besides , speaking of performance , ram version roms are on top , and thats not subjective
Spb TV does not work though. Have you tried it?
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what is the battery drain is standby with current widget? cheers
I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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I am heavy user with lots of wiget running plus data is always on .Having fully charged in the morning,it lasted all day without single charge.But other builds lasted only couple of hours.forget about SPB TV. you will always find some app will not work on any builts even in native android.but What i am saying is about good perfomance. try it feel it.just small piece of advice try before say something.
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how long did you try the build until you reached your conclusion. 30min? 1hr? day? all builds work different for some people than others depending on winrom, radio, kernel, sdcard, apps installed, etc...
So what is it? whats the best build combo?Cause it seems to me that nothing is complete? Don't get me wrong their are some talented people here doing putting some incredible builds together and Ive tested a lot of them, but still cant seem to find that one build that could be used for long term daily use.Has any one else?
Ive searched a lot of threads and tried a lot of suggestion and not any real luck
what im using now seems to be pretty good but at times i have location and data drops and no mms.
I am using mccm 3.4 for weeks now without any problem. Other builds would crap out on me after few days of use. Just saying.
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I have CR192 DESIRE HD as winmo rom, radio 2.15.50 and I'm running motoman evo carbon remix .06 and I have a great performing setup, I usually unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and by the time I go to bed around 8pm I usually still have around 15% on moderate use. I've been using this setup with a couple of different motoman builds as a daily driver for 5 weeks without using winmo at all. Honestly is all on phone to phone basis. No matter how much you try the same setup might not work the same for two different phones. The hardware is not 100% identical on every phone, that's why it never behaves the same, that's why there's always people saying they're having an issue while others aren't.
So pretty much I'm saying that while you think your setup is the best, others might not have the same result as you.
what a horrible thread, lol
anyways, i dont have the crazy amount of times to test multiple builds and you probably got your findings wrong
i am using MDJ 4.6 Desire HD and its good, but not great
it has its flaws and issues
today I just got a corrupted SD card with many files with weird names in them
i have tested the Darkstone RAM build, didnt like anything without Sense
i have tested MIUI , its blazing fast but the fact that it looks like iphone, bleh
your statements are subjective and totally unmeasurable
Why is this in the dev section?
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Well the intention behind the thread is alright..Anyways, I am testing Gingerbread RAM V1.0 by MDJ and am getting less than 1% battery drain/hour which is the best I have experienced in 3months of trying various builds and it's rooted so SetCPU works. However, lots of other apps including Facebook are not working..I guess in time MDJ will show the way..
And I have 2.15 Radio, HTC latest ROM and HSPL
Mccm3.4 and mdj4.6 with non-newest-hastarin kernels are two build I will vouch for as daily drivers.
But no build is as reliable as a build with a .zip backup of itself on internal memory for speedy unzipping to sdcard.
I am running darkstones superram 1.5 now and loving it, and am looking forward to mdj's ram gingerbread rc5 when it comes out tonight or tomorrow.
On all these builds I named I see '6-9ma' standby battery drain a lot, 19ma sometimes.
i am using Motoman234_Desire_PCB_Sense_V1.0 work perfect all software work and installed fast and stable good back up
Anougher opinionated thread,this might work for you but might not be so good for someone else,its mostly down to personal preffrence but if you want a good Desire HD build then yeah its a good combo
Fishing for the best build
to begin with i have used radio 2.15.50 with wwe 3.14 original rom htc update,battery drainage was too high on windows and also android build,80% was the ram usage.so i have downgraded to wwe 1.66 and only upgraded the radio 2.15.50.i have been using MDJ REVOLUTION HD WITH HASTARIN 8.5.3 and its brilliant for daily usage.with moderate use, battery life is excellent.to me this is the best combination.i have also tried all other builds but i remained with this one.because its brilliant with animations and the lot.
one of our member has started this thread just to find out what he can use for his phone without trying other builds,because its easier for him to find out this way rather than doing himself.its not that he managed to find the best combination,HIS FISHING FOR THE BEST COMBINATION FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS.he will probably say he has tried all the other builds)
Not too be pee'ing you guys against the leggs.. but i'm using the same config now. for about 5 days and omfg.. this one really works! battery stands for a whole day while data always on. ( with gps always on about 14 hours before its drained )
no dropouts, no bull**** with ppp. no legs en a pretty good bench points.
I know, i know.
Its a recurrent question but i want to know what is your opnion about that.
What Android NAND Rom had a better battery life for daily use?
I will NEVER, NEVER go back to Windows Mobile
Too many variables;
Kernel
Apps
Sync Settings
Wireless Settings
Trial and error is the best way as you can be recommended one rom, try it and find your opinion is the complete opposite to what you were given
bates_1974 said:
Too many variables;
Kernel
Apps
Sync Settings
Wireless Settings
Trial and error is the best way as you can be recommended one rom, try it and find your opinion is the complete opposite to what you were given
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I know all that variables, but i dont know if u read the question, but i want to know just a opinion and not tecnical review.
felipemadox said:
I know all that variables, but i dont know if u read the question, but i want to know just a opinion and not tecnical review.
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I read the question and answered it, being given an opinion won't necessarily help you, just go flash and test like everyone else has to
bates_1974 said:
I read the question and answered it, being given an opinion won't necessarily help you, just go flash and test like everyone else has to
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+1st bates, well put.
I can't really comprehend the importance of the question about battery life, as it is on ALL builds ok-ish... depending on the different usage habits.
Just to enlightened the OP... my Tytung 2.1 Gingerbread Nand can go for two days or even more... if I leave it untouched
But it is probably flat in like 4 or 5 hours playing nonstop Angry Birds... never tried either option... but you get the gist!
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I know all that variables, but i dont know if u read the question, but i want to know just a opinion and not tecnical review.
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I'm not being meant, but your language really lets people down! I believe your question wont ever gets any answer!
I would like to know answer to the same question. And I know there are MANY people who tried MANY ROMS. Each person's usage pattern may be different. But same person IMHO uses HD2 same way with different ROMs. Which means if you ALREADY tried 10 ROMS and found out that ROM "XYZ" is best for battery.
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I'm not being meant, but your language really lets people down! I believe your question wont ever gets any answer!
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Cmon man, i made a question about the people opinion and my first aswer is someone talking things like "dont be dumm and try".
Im already trying every build, im givving donates for the cookers and my intention with this topic is just to know the people opinion.
If you dont want to opinate, is simples, ignore this topic.
I do not want to offend anyone, I admire everyone here and help whenever possible.
Sorry if I misunderstood.
Cyanogen Roms have the worst battery life, everything else is equal.
That's about as much as I can sum it up. Every Desire/Sense rom is going to have the same, every Cyanogen is going to have the same.
You choose whether you want CM or Sense, then you choose which one looks the nicest to you and has the features you want.
Edit: My favorite build so far (battery life is fine also) is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159 CMYLXGO's Stock Desire HD/Z Hybrid v2.0.4
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Too many variables;
Kernel
Apps
Sync Settings
Wireless Settings
Trial and error is the best way as you can be recommended one rom, try it and find your opinion is the complete opposite to what you were given
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I agree, also the Radio is a variable.
For me the best NAND build is MDJ Cyanogenmod with 2.12.50 radio, but now im testing with 2.15.50, and it seems that 2.12.50 is better.
I just flashed my first android nand last night. newest CM7 with 2.15 radio. 12 hours off charger and at 58%. had this been yesterday with android on sd, my phone would have died already.
hd2k10 said:
Cyanogen Roms have the worst battery life, everything else is equal.
That's about as much as I can sum it up. Every Desire/Sense rom is going to have the same, every Cyanogen is going to have the same.
You choose whether you want CM or Sense, then you choose which one looks the nicest to you and has the features you want.
Edit: My favorite build so far (battery life is fine also) is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159 CMYLXGO's Stock Desire HD/Z Hybrid v2.0.4
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Thanks for the aswer, i will install the CWM now and post later the results.
Im actually at MDJ Cyanogen7 v2.6 and the battery drain is huge :-(
felipemadox said:
Thanks for the aswer, i will install the CWM now and post later the results.
Im actually at MDJ Cyanogen7 v2.6 and the battery drain is huge :-(
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It's not a drastic difference (unless you use Bluetooth) but CMs (Cyanogen Mods) do use more battery IMO, they seem to burst more in Standby, Wifi seems to be less battery-friendly and Bluetooth is a joke on most.
Sense IMO is the way to go, I love the look/feel and it seems pretty well ironed out.
Also, if you use LED Me Know, uninstall it or turn off Compatibility Mode (HD2 can only use Green and Amber (Orange) so make sure you use those two colors if you do keep it; just keep in mind your LED won't pulse any more.
The pulsing LED gives me a 60mA drain constantly if I have an Unread notification and my LED is going, it wasn't like this on SD from what I remember, must be a NAND issue.
Solid LED > No LED though.
Haven't seen anything new since Hyperdroid CM7 2.1.0, which was released going on 2 months ago now, and GBX V12 before that. Just wondering if he's moved on to something else, and if we should be expecting anything new anytime soon. I don't want to give up on Hyperdroid, but if Pongster's gone, I guess it will be time to move on to something new
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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Mine just work fine. Medium-heavy use gives me max of 15hrs.
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low and heavy usage are different for every person. mAh are more informative and on this side the battery was worse for me than on other builds.
Hyperdroid cm7 works no problems for me. 15 - 18hrs is OK for me
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slbenz said:
I guess you didn't realize he has a new baby either on the way or already here and a regular job to contend with. Pongster's build is pretty stable if you ask me. Just uses more battery than other ROMs that I have used on my phone.
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No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.
Dorimanx High End
Switch to Dorimanx High End Rom, best Rom imo, has best support by far, smooth, fast, and updated constantly.
Sully6789 said:
No, I didnt realize that, and after searching through his ROM forums, didnt see anything about it and gave up searching. His ROM is more than stable though and I love it. I get up to 18 hr's a day of battery on normal usage, with a couple tweaks too though. Its the only ROM I've been using since I first tried his GBX V2.0, but if he's taking time off to handle personal stuff then I'm gonna go flash crazy trying other ROM's now. Just wondering if we could expect anything new from him is all. Thanks for the info though.
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No problem. Like you because there hasn't been a recent update, I have been trying other ROMs. So far, Tytung's Nexus HD2 v2.8 build the last couple of weeks has been very stable for me, similar to Pongsters but with even less battery drain. 3% battery loss vs. 5% battery loss on overnight standby. Also, actual app use, Tytung's build on my phone is about on average 50mA less than Pongsters. Though I do somewhat miss the CM configurations possible on Pongster's build. Both are great builds, but it again boils down to what you want on your phone. For me, solid GPS and Bluetooth are what I need and that is what Tytung brings to me. But Pongster's build is slightly more responsive and more configurable. Good luck flashing other ROMs. Let us know what you find out.
Right now I'm using D4RK MIUI V 4.0.1 by Zx The Ripper xZ. I hadn't tried a MIUI ROM before but I gotta say, I'm very impressed. I love the customization it offers, along the with overall look and feel. I had to go with ADW Launcher though, just because that's what I'm used to with HyperDroid. I get a full days worth of battery after calibration, and the integrated AGPS libs is a plus too. Tytung really knocked it outta the park with that one, and put our HD2's one step closer to becoming an almost full fledged native device. I'm gonna use it for a few days, and then I think I'll try Dorimanx High End Rom, and probably Tytung's Nexus HD2 after that, just because I know Tytung's stuff is always top notch. Theres so many choices, I'm just gonna have fun with it, and maybe try em all Thanks guys.
i read on a rom thread that the high battery drain for cm7 roms is related to the lockscreen and email.apk. if you delete email.apk and chose another lockscreen than default the battery drain should be gone. but i didn't try cause i'm on miui.
think this was written in the dorimax rom thread.