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[Q] Does PD15IMG.zip work just like SAPPIMG.nbh for mt3g and can I flash with S-OFF?

I remember with the old MT3G that SAPPIMG.nbh was like our ultimate safety net. As long as we could get into bootloader we could at least get back to OEM Cupcake. I like the idea of being able to bring the phone back to 100% OEM.
I've seen the PD15IMG.zip for MT4G floating around but not a lot of documentation on how to use it.
Can anyone confirm that it works the same way? Does flashing it override whatever is on the phone and bring us back to a perfectly OEM image, complete with S-ON and root access gone without a trace?
Lastly, is it safe to flash from S-OFF or do I need to turn S-ON first?
Thanks!

Yes and yes. Unless you used gfree to get radio s off in which case you need to use the s on guide at the bottom of that post.
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grankin01 said:
Yes and yes. Unless you used gfree to get radio s off in which case you need to use the s on guide at the bottom of that post.
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Thanks, Granks!
Nope, no radio s-off. I figure I'll just call T-mobile and ask if I want to sim unlock it.
As for the guide to forcing update - there's a second pd15img.zip file (20mb or so) and then an update.zip. Are both really necessary to unroot, stay stock, and get current to 2.2.1?
Or can I just use the first pd15img.zip (311mb) and then the update.zip and skip the middle part, which from what I've read seems to temporarily root/s-off the phone?

The original pd15img.zip will be 2.2. You will need the second one to update it to 2.2.1.
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grankin01 said:
The original pd15img.zip will be 2.2. You will need the second one to update it to 2.2.1.
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So that's a total of 2 update.zips, not three. That's what I thought. I just want to be sure since I don't know exactly what these updates do, only their intended usage...
Thanks!

Np
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Wow. Perfect timing. So if one followed the original s-off/root thread without gfree, all we need to do is flash that to be stock again? Can someone link the image?
I have a replacement phone coming, so this will simplify my exchange.
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mattjmartin said:
Wow. Perfect timing. So if one followed the original s-off/root thread without gfree, all we need to do is flash that to be stock again? Can someone link the image?
I have a replacement phone coming, so this will simplify my exchange.
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Here you go.
http://www.filedropper.com/pd15imgglaciertmous1175312radio1228b60140e26030226mrelease155771signed
mirror.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/caa....140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155771_signed.zip

Phateless said:
This will get you to 2.2, not sure if the ota will still come.
http://db.tt/6GFTLxj
I believe this is the update to 2.2.1. Let me know how it works.
http://db.tt/oDkWb2k
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Thank you sir! Nice touch with the dropbox links too, made it even easier for me! I'll be back on in a few hours to let you know how it all went!

mattjmartin said:
Thank you sir! Nice touch with the dropbox links too, made it even easier for me! I'll be back on in a few hours to let you know how it all went!
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Not a problem! It can be so hard to track all this **** down, that's why I've started collecting links in my sig in case anyone else happens to need them. Time to update my sig and add in the MT4G links too.

Do I need to flash the stock recovery first?
EDIT: I'm getting an "main version is older" error when trying to flash over cyanogenmod 6.1. I'm going to nandroid back to my stock image with root and see if I can flash it over that. Hopefully I can. Any ideas anyone?

mattjmartin said:
Do I need to flash the stock recovery first?
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To flash the file in the OP? No, you flash this through hboot and it will wipe your phone, replace your recovery, unroot you and restore you to S-ON.
Basically it returns your phone to an out of the box state.

Phateless said:
To flash the file in the OP? No, you flash this through hboot and it will wipe your phone, replace your recovery, unroot you and restore you to S-ON.
Basically it returns your phone to an out of the box state.
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I guess I should be a bit quicker on my edits! Anyway, when flashing through hboot over CM6.1 I get "main version is older" errors. I was going to nandroid back to stock + root but it is now bootlooping when nandroiding back to stock. This is frustrating. I still get the same "main version is older" error over my stock nandroid as well.

mattjmartin said:
I guess I should be a bit quicker on my edits! Anyway, when flashing through hboot over CM6.1 I get "main version is older" errors. I was going to nandroid back to stock + root but it is now bootlooping when nandroiding back to stock. This is frustrating. I still get the same "main version is older" error over my stock nandroid as well.
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Are you doing a full wipe between your nandroids? If you still have S-OFF you can fastboot reflash cwm recovery and then restore or flash whatever the heck you want.

Phateless said:
Are you doing a full wipe between your nandroids? If you still have S-OFF you can fastboot reflash cwm recovery and then restore or flash whatever the heck you want.
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I did not know it was wise to wipe between nandroids...
Just for reference, I'm trying to restore to stock so I can ship it back to t-mobile. So far all I have accomplished is doing a nandroid restore to stock + s -off + root, yet somehow it is bootlooping... I may use fastboot to flash the stock recovery and try to restore it then.
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mattjmartin said:
I did not know it was wise to wipe between nandroids...
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That's your problem right there. In recovery before you nandroid restore do WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET. Then restore your nandroid and it should boot right up.
Or are you doing this through Rom Manager? Boot into recovery and do this manually so you can wipe/reset before you restore. I just restored from cm7 this morning. Heck, I nandroid back and forth between Sense and CM6 about twice a week. Literally...

mattjmartin said:
I did not know it was wise to wipe between nandroids...
Just for reference, I'm trying to restore to stock so I can ship it back to t-mobile. So far all I have accomplished is doing a nandroid restore to stock + s -off + root, yet somehow it is bootlooping... I may use fastboot to flash the stock recovery and try to restore it then.
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easiest way is to follow my guide for unrooting

jjjackson56 said:
easiest way is to follow my guide for unrooting
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I didn't follow the ultimate guide so I just went straight to flashing the image file in hboot but it gives me a "main version is older" error and kicks me out... I am on CM 6.1, what could be the reason?
I have 3 ideas for what my problems could be: 1) CM Kernal (does nandroid restore the kernal?) 2) Not wiping in clockwork before nandroid restore (hopefully I still have clockwork) 3) Bad PD15IMG.zip download (like an idiot I downloaded it from the device itself...)
I will work on it again tomorrow and be back to this thread.
Thanks again for the help guys!

mattjmartin said:
I didn't follow the ultimate guide so I just went straight to flashing the image file in hboot but it gives me a "main version is older" error and kicks me out... I am on CM 6.1, what could be the reason?
I have 3 ideas for what my problems could be: 1) CM Kernal (does nandroid restore the kernal?) 2) Not wiping in clockwork before nandroid restore (hopefully I still have clockwork) 3) Bad PD15IMG.zip download (like an idiot I downloaded it from the device itself...)
I will work on it again tomorrow and be back to this thread.
Thanks again for the help guys!
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Oh wow, definitely download from a computer. It's a 311mb file. Did you check the md5sum?

Mine seems fast over wi-fi.....
Phateless said:
Oh wow, definitely download from a computer. It's a 311mb file. Did you check the md5sum?
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[Q] How to backup the stock ROM?

Hi,
Could someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial/howto for backing up the ROM off mytouch 4G? I am sure the ROM file is already floating around the web, but I am actually interested in learning how to do this myself. Obviously, I am a newbie, so please be gentle!
Thanks.

Download titanium nackup from the market.
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Excuse me... Titanium Backup
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r2d-two said:
Hi,
Could someone point me in the right direction for a tutorial/howto for backing up the ROM off mytouch 4G? I am sure the ROM file is already floating around the web, but I am actually interested in learning how to do this myself. Obviously, I am a newbie, so please be gentle!
Thanks.
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Well, the easiest way is to flash clockwork recovery and do a nandroid backup from within there.
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jmwils3 said:
Well, the easiest way is to flash clockwork recovery and do a nandroid backup from within there.
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Note, you must be rooted for this, but it is definitely best. TitaniumBackup will restore apps/setting if you can successfully boot all the way. A nandroid made via CW Recovery or on your own via ADB will let you recover from anything, as long as you can still boot to recovery. IE: bad flash, boot loop, bad ROM in general, "accidentally" deleting critical system apks and breaking your ROM, etc.
Here's the link to the stock 2.2.1 T-Mo image you can also flash to do a full factory restore: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901477

1. Root phone. (there are several threads out there on xda).
(this one is nice easy for noobs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021)
2. Flash clockwork recovery. (again, there are threads out there on xda.)
3. Power down phone. Power + volume down. When it boots, go down to "recovery".
4. You will boot into a black with green screen clockwork page. Go to backup/restore.
5. Click backup.
6. You are done. IF you want to go back to stock, restore with that ROM and do a factory reset. You will go back to the original mytouch 4g start session (with the vidoes, setup, etc...)
Although you'd still have s=off....

Thanks for all the replies!
I managed to root the phone using the procedure described in the thread here on XDA and made the backup using clockwork (the screen with the orange text).
Again, thx!

Flashing stock recovery with cm7 ROM

Hi guys, sorry if it is a stupid question, but am I okay to flash the stock recovery while I'm running cm7?
My battery life is horrible so I just want to try the work around that involves charging while the phone is off and we know cwm recovery doesn't work like that right now.
I would flash back to cwm 3 afterwards.
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Here's a link to one of TrueBlue_Drew's =bazillion= answers to this question. His method allows you to have two versions of CW Recovery available via the Rom Manager. Since the Rom Manager does not support CW Recovery 3.x, that version is stored as "2.5.1.4". With CW 3, ROM Manager is used only for going back and forth between CW 2 and 3.
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10670110&postcount=531

shortskoolbus said:
Hi guys, sorry if it is a stupid question, but am I okay to flash the stock recovery while I'm running cm7?
My battery life is horrible so I just want to try the work around that involves charging while the phone is off and we know cwm recovery doesn't work like that right now.
I would flash back to cwm 3 afterwards.
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I've actually talked to TrueBlue and I came up with the idea of making the oemrecovery and renaming it, recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.1. He is supposed to be updating his guide here shortly but I just spoke with him regarding this last night.
Basically, download the oemrecovery, go to the clockwork folder on your sdcard and go clockworkmod>download>koush.tandgaming.com>recoveries. Drop the oemrecovery into that spot on the sdcard and rename it EXACTLY recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.1. Once that's done you can now go into rommanager scroll down to all clockworkmod recoveries and choose 2.5.1.1. That is now your stock recovery. you can reboot into the stock recovery, and keep the phone off to charge it. Once done, reboot the phone, go back to rommanager and click 2.5.1.4 and that will give you cwm3.xxx back. If this helps you, please hit the thanks button!

Thanks. Sorry for posting in the wrong section.
I'm aware I can flash back to 2.5.1.2, but for some reason I recall that this also went into recovery when charged. I'm probably wrong about that though .
amac, that sounds like a very elegant solution. I'll have too give that a shot.
I was really mostly concerned that not having 3.x would somehow affect the cm7 installation. But im guessing it should not and only affects ability to flash the rom.
Thanks again all. And for bearing with my ignorance!
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Well i just checked, and 2.5.1.2 still turns on the phone when charging while powered off.
I've looked around but can't find it, is there a flashable stock recovery for the MT4G somewhere? I know there's an image posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843289 but this one isn't flashable. But i guess i could still manage if there isn't one out there.
Thanks again everyone.

use the oemrecovery file found on page 118 of the cm6 thread. It was posted by phateless. Sorry I would link it but the xda app doesn't let you do that.
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Awesome. working fine now.
Thanks again.

shortskoolbus said:
Awesome. working fine now.
Thanks again.
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No problem. And if you haven't already, hit the thanks button if you so please

Bought Evo on eBay... has s-off but recovery goes to red triangle

Ok bought an evo on eBay, after getting rid of my evo for a blackberry and realizing I made a huge mistake. It's used but like new.
I go to the boot screen and it says s-off. Then I select recovery but it goes to an evo with a red triangle.
What can I do?
Thanks
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If you can acess the bootloader, I would recommend searching in the rooting wiki and look for a PCIMG file place that in the root of the sd card(hopefully your comp has a media reader) and insert the sd card with that file and the bootloader should detect when you select recovery.
What that file does is resets everything on the phone to stock. if you could find a RUU that might work but if your comp cant see the phone its useless i hope this helps
oh hey just stole this from a post from mattykins(thanks for the link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060

josh995 said:
Ok bought an evo on eBay, after getting rid of my evo for a blackberry and realizing I made a huge mistake. It's used but like new.
I go to the boot screen and it says s-off. Then I select recovery but it goes to an evo with a red triangle.
What can I do?
Thanks
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If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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k2buckley said:
If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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or you could install clockwork mod and make it even easier on yourself by installing recovery through there

k2buckley said:
If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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Could you do a huuuuge favor for a newbie and link me to the file I need to flash?
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iitreatedii said:
or you could install clockwork mod and make it even easier on yourself by installing recovery through there
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This would probably be the easiest thing. DL clockwork from the market and install the recovery I prefer amon_ra it will be at the bottom under alternate recoveries. Also do a nand backup as soon as you have a recovery.

I agree with above, just get rom manager from the market and flash a recovery...simple
We're comin from a pure power source.

josh995 said:
Could you do a huuuuge favor for a newbie and link me to the file I need to flash?
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SUre, give me one sec to upload a file for you. And as the other guys suggested, flashing a recovery using ROM manager would be your easiest bet. HOWEVER, if you dont have the SUPER USER app, (which i bet you do not), rom manager wont work. t herefore you cant flash anything with it.
So give me one sec, and i'll upload what you need to flash, with instructions for ya
EDIT: I attatched a recovery for you. It's Amon Ra V2.3. Download the PC36IMG, and leave it named exactly as it is. Place the file on the main directory (root) of your sd card. Power your phone off completely. Then boot to the bootloader by holding the power and volume down buttons simultaneously. When it gets to the bootloader, after a sec it will scan for files, and find the PC36IMG. It will then ask you if you want to update, so select yes (volume UP). Once it's done flashing, it'll ask you to reboot. Select no. Then choose the 'recovery' option from the bootloader menu. You should now successfully boot into Amon Ra V2.3 recovery. From that point, you can create a backup of your current setup. Then you can perform a full wipe, and then flash the rom of your choice.

And what ever you do DON'T restore a nandroid from your old phone. You will wipe out your 4g if the wimax partition is included in the nandroid.
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k2buckley said:
SUre, give me one sec to ........
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Thanks man, a lot!

josh995 said:
Thanks man, a lot!
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You're welcome. Never a problem at all. Let us know if you need any more assistance getting things up and running.

Ok that worked. I now have Amon ra recovery
But, lol, one more question. Amon ra has changed since I've had an evo.. now when I select backup, it has a list of things I want to back up with "[x]" next to them. Which items should I select? It didn't have that feature in the past so I'm a little lost.
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josh995 said:
Ok that worked. I now have Amon ra recovery
But, lol, one more question. Amon ra has changed since I've had an evo.. now when I select backup, it has a list of things I want to back up with "[x]" next to them. Which items should I select? It didn't have that feature in the past so I'm a little lost.
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Right, that feature was added after version 1.8.0 (which I still use). I believe you want to check all of the boxes, for your first backup. (I'm not sure if you need to have everything checked after that, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt). I've seen people say that you only need to back up your wimax one time, then keep the file in a safe place (it's your RSA keys), however I just can't see what the problem is with backing it up each time. I kind of like the simplicity of 1.8.0, just hit backup and let it do it's thing. Whatever the heck 1.8.0 automatically backs up on its own, works perfectly fine for me, lol.
So I would just check everything off, and then let it perform the backup.
EDIT: and sorry I don't have more info on that for ya. I'm sure someone else who regulrarly uses ar 2.3 will chime in, and give you a more solid answer. I just simply don't use that recovery, as I never saw a need to 'upgrade' from 1.8.0, because it has always worked flawlessly for me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd say you could use 1.8.0 if you wanted to, but I believe it won't work on the 004 hardware phones with the 0040000 size erase block.

Ok cool.
Thanks again
And yes i remember the simple way, things are supposed to get easier as time goes on, not more complicated, haha!
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Mytouch 4g

I know this isn't the right place, but I am new, so I can't post where needed. A few months ago I watched a YouTube video and rooted my phone and put CM7 Rom on it. I guess the video didn't do the backup part and since then I have lost all other back up options besides one I created last month. Is there anyway I can get my phone back to the original mytouch 4g before ginger bread? I used the gfree method, but as stated I can't restore before that because a backup was not done before the cm7 flash
Thanks in advanced

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
Download one of the Froyo based RUU's and follow instructions on how to flash it.

Thanks, but what is the Froyo

SuthernStyles said:
Thanks, but what is the Froyo
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Froyo is android 2.2. The version before Gingerbread (2.3).

Yeah, just looked it up. Thanks again

This does not work for me. And how do you open terminal on cpu?Terminal Emulator? Or is it commND PROMPT? Either way I cant get this to work. I need bettter instructions

SuthernStyles said:
I know this isn't the right place, but I am new, so I can't post where needed.
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Yes you can post where needed. New members can post in General and Q&A forums. You probably tried to post this in the Development forum...which was the WRONG forum, and indicates why we have the 10 post rule in place
So I've moved it to where you should have posted it.

SuthernStyles said:
I know this isn't the right place, but I am new, so I can't post where needed. A few months ago I watched a YouTube video and rooted my phone and put CM7 Rom on it. I guess the video didn't do the backup part and since then I have lost all other back up options besides one I created last month. Is there anyway I can get my phone back to the original mytouch 4g before ginger bread? I used the gfree method, but as stated I can't restore before that because a backup was not done before the cm7 flash
Thanks in advanced
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just flash the stock PD15IMG.zip file in bootloader.
PD15IMG.zip Android 2.2.1 Froyo
follow these instructions:
1) reboot to bootloader/hboot using power + volume DOWN buttons
2) bootloader will find the file
3) follow the onscreen instructions to flash it.
4) hit the thanks button.

saranhai said:
just flash the stock PD15IMG.zip file in bootloader.
PD15IMG.zip Android 2.2.1 Froyo
follow these instructions:
1) reboot to bootloader/hboot using power + volume DOWN buttons
2) bootloader will find the file
3) follow the onscreen instructions to flash it.
4) hit the thanks button.
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Does this lose root?
Edit: nevermind the file description says it all
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I did this, but its still CM7. Nothing changed at all? Lol

SuthernStyles said:
I did this, but its still CM7. Nothing changed at all? Lol
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Apparently not, saranhais thanks button is still unclicked but there's no way you did because pd15img.zip wipes away EVERYTHING
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Nicgraner said:
Apparently not, saranhais thanks button is still unclicked but there's no way you did because pd15img.zip wipes away EVERYTHING
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oh right, it won't work unless you click the thanks button. LOL jkkk...
hmm... i don't think you did it right...
can you please explain in detail what you did?

Nicgraner said:
Apparently not, saranhais thanks button is still unclicked but there's no way you did because pd15img.zip wipes away EVERYTHING
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All it did was said it uploaded it or whatever and I restarted and all was same

I pressed power,volume down reboot ,boot loader, it says SD checking PDimg15 or whatever. Then starts downloading. Ask to update, I said yes. Then power off. All is same.

Any advice?

SuthernStyles said:
I pressed power,volume down reboot ,boot loader, it says SD checking PDimg15 or whatever. Then starts downloading. Ask to update, I said yes. Then power off. All is same.
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You're not supposed to power it off during the update...
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That's the only option it gives me after it

SuthernStyles said:
That's the only option it gives me after it
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Try redownloading or try using the 2.3 RUU
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Where can I get those? Ill look around

Seems while I'm uploading it says the file is actually PD15IAG instead of img file? Also how does it know what to load or upload doing this method