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[Q] using backup/recovery after root

ok so i rooted my Legend, but that's it, its just a root. i still have the original recovery from HTC. i've searched around for a way to somehow get a recovery like Nandroid or AmonRA (i don't think they have support for Legend) working on my phone so i can start backing it up and using a custom rom, but no luck. any ideas?
also while i'm at it, any good Sense ROM recommendations?
HTC Legend PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.43.0003
RADIO-7.08.35.05
thanks

Ok i figured out a way to get a custom recovery on there, now what i want to know is there a way to make a backup before flashing a new ROM? The rooting tutorial says there isnt, but i don't believe it since it says the same for the desire and i managed to make a back up for the desire.
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Install ROM-Manager from the Market (free), hit Reboot Into Recovery and choose Nandroid from the menu.

ByteFalcon said:
i want to know is there a way to make a backup before flashing a new ROM?
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a) Yes, there is a way to do that. Reboot into recovery mode and do Nandroid backup. If in doubt, search for "Clockwork recovery".
b) As mentioned before, you can use "ROM Manager" (free app on Market).
ByteFalcon said:
The rooting tutorial says there isnt, but i don't believe it
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I don't believe either

Flashing stock recovery with cm7 ROM

Hi guys, sorry if it is a stupid question, but am I okay to flash the stock recovery while I'm running cm7?
My battery life is horrible so I just want to try the work around that involves charging while the phone is off and we know cwm recovery doesn't work like that right now.
I would flash back to cwm 3 afterwards.
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Here's a link to one of TrueBlue_Drew's =bazillion= answers to this question. His method allows you to have two versions of CW Recovery available via the Rom Manager. Since the Rom Manager does not support CW Recovery 3.x, that version is stored as "2.5.1.4". With CW 3, ROM Manager is used only for going back and forth between CW 2 and 3.
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10670110&postcount=531

shortskoolbus said:
Hi guys, sorry if it is a stupid question, but am I okay to flash the stock recovery while I'm running cm7?
My battery life is horrible so I just want to try the work around that involves charging while the phone is off and we know cwm recovery doesn't work like that right now.
I would flash back to cwm 3 afterwards.
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I've actually talked to TrueBlue and I came up with the idea of making the oemrecovery and renaming it, recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.1. He is supposed to be updating his guide here shortly but I just spoke with him regarding this last night.
Basically, download the oemrecovery, go to the clockwork folder on your sdcard and go clockworkmod>download>koush.tandgaming.com>recoveries. Drop the oemrecovery into that spot on the sdcard and rename it EXACTLY recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.1. Once that's done you can now go into rommanager scroll down to all clockworkmod recoveries and choose 2.5.1.1. That is now your stock recovery. you can reboot into the stock recovery, and keep the phone off to charge it. Once done, reboot the phone, go back to rommanager and click 2.5.1.4 and that will give you cwm3.xxx back. If this helps you, please hit the thanks button!

Thanks. Sorry for posting in the wrong section.
I'm aware I can flash back to 2.5.1.2, but for some reason I recall that this also went into recovery when charged. I'm probably wrong about that though .
amac, that sounds like a very elegant solution. I'll have too give that a shot.
I was really mostly concerned that not having 3.x would somehow affect the cm7 installation. But im guessing it should not and only affects ability to flash the rom.
Thanks again all. And for bearing with my ignorance!
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Well i just checked, and 2.5.1.2 still turns on the phone when charging while powered off.
I've looked around but can't find it, is there a flashable stock recovery for the MT4G somewhere? I know there's an image posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843289 but this one isn't flashable. But i guess i could still manage if there isn't one out there.
Thanks again everyone.

use the oemrecovery file found on page 118 of the cm6 thread. It was posted by phateless. Sorry I would link it but the xda app doesn't let you do that.
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Awesome. working fine now.
Thanks again.

shortskoolbus said:
Awesome. working fine now.
Thanks again.
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No problem. And if you haven't already, hit the thanks button if you so please

Correct me if I am wrong.......

Had my X for a week now. It is rooted and running DarkSlideBlur 4.2, I have several other ROM's I am wanting to try out......
If I understand what I have been reading right, I can use Nandroid Backups to return to ROM's I like, or is it better to reflash them?
Trying to avoid the whole setup process....
Thanks in advance
Mace

A nandroid would be the route to go. It restores your phone to the exact state it was when you backed it up. Every call text message everything will be as it was.

Nandroid all the way. Works every time
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MaceBewley said:
Had my X for a week now. It is rooted and running DarkSlideBlur 4.2, I have several other ROM's I am wanting to try out......
If I understand what I have been reading right, I can use Nandroid Backups to return to ROM's I like, or is it better to reflash them?
Trying to avoid the whole setup process....
Thanks in advance
Mace
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As already stated, a nandroid is a best bet. Just keep in mind if you do any updates (OTA) and the radio gets updated (i.e. 2.3.15 to 2.3.340) an old nandroid will brick your phone due to an older bootloader
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Thanks guys! I thought that was the case, as I have been all over these forums "researching" for a couple months before I got the X!
Now off to research "Radio"?? (thats a new one to me)

But what if you mount your system and get stuck in the bootup. i cant even get to the recovery. i dont know what to do.

Nandroid always has your back. Something gets screwed and you are stuck in a boot loop, plug in the usb or charger, pull the battery, put it in and boot up. That will hijack back into Clockwork.
Always Wipe Data/Factory Reset, Wipe Cache/Advanced/Wipe Dalvik before you flash a new ROM and you "almost" always avoid a boot loop.
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that is clockwork recovery, the stock recovery is accessed with a combination of hard keys which i am not sure which they are off the top of my head. in that you can wipe, but unfortunately no nandroid restore.

I tried every rom out there. The fastest most stable best battery life is stock. Deodexed stock. You can theme and font.
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mattmartin77 said:
that is clockwork recovery, the stock recovery is accessed with a combination of hard keys which i am not sure which they are off the top of my head. in that you can wipe, but unfortunately no nandroid restore.
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The hard keys are volume down and camera button if you wanted to know

Thats to get to the bootloader. Recovery is home and power and hold on until it comes up. To get into safe mode you hold power and the menu button
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Bought Evo on eBay... has s-off but recovery goes to red triangle

Ok bought an evo on eBay, after getting rid of my evo for a blackberry and realizing I made a huge mistake. It's used but like new.
I go to the boot screen and it says s-off. Then I select recovery but it goes to an evo with a red triangle.
What can I do?
Thanks
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If you can acess the bootloader, I would recommend searching in the rooting wiki and look for a PCIMG file place that in the root of the sd card(hopefully your comp has a media reader) and insert the sd card with that file and the bootloader should detect when you select recovery.
What that file does is resets everything on the phone to stock. if you could find a RUU that might work but if your comp cant see the phone its useless i hope this helps
oh hey just stole this from a post from mattykins(thanks for the link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060

josh995 said:
Ok bought an evo on eBay, after getting rid of my evo for a blackberry and realizing I made a huge mistake. It's used but like new.
I go to the boot screen and it says s-off. Then I select recovery but it goes to an evo with a red triangle.
What can I do?
Thanks
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If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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k2buckley said:
If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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or you could install clockwork mod and make it even easier on yourself by installing recovery through there

k2buckley said:
If you're s off, your rooted. The triangle means you have no recovery. All you need to do is flash a PC36IMG of recovery, using the bootloader. Once you do that, you'll have recovery, and can flash a rom of your choice. That's it. No need to re root or ruu or anything like that. Just recovery, that's it.
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Could you do a huuuuge favor for a newbie and link me to the file I need to flash?
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iitreatedii said:
or you could install clockwork mod and make it even easier on yourself by installing recovery through there
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This would probably be the easiest thing. DL clockwork from the market and install the recovery I prefer amon_ra it will be at the bottom under alternate recoveries. Also do a nand backup as soon as you have a recovery.

I agree with above, just get rom manager from the market and flash a recovery...simple
We're comin from a pure power source.

josh995 said:
Could you do a huuuuge favor for a newbie and link me to the file I need to flash?
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SUre, give me one sec to upload a file for you. And as the other guys suggested, flashing a recovery using ROM manager would be your easiest bet. HOWEVER, if you dont have the SUPER USER app, (which i bet you do not), rom manager wont work. t herefore you cant flash anything with it.
So give me one sec, and i'll upload what you need to flash, with instructions for ya
EDIT: I attatched a recovery for you. It's Amon Ra V2.3. Download the PC36IMG, and leave it named exactly as it is. Place the file on the main directory (root) of your sd card. Power your phone off completely. Then boot to the bootloader by holding the power and volume down buttons simultaneously. When it gets to the bootloader, after a sec it will scan for files, and find the PC36IMG. It will then ask you if you want to update, so select yes (volume UP). Once it's done flashing, it'll ask you to reboot. Select no. Then choose the 'recovery' option from the bootloader menu. You should now successfully boot into Amon Ra V2.3 recovery. From that point, you can create a backup of your current setup. Then you can perform a full wipe, and then flash the rom of your choice.

And what ever you do DON'T restore a nandroid from your old phone. You will wipe out your 4g if the wimax partition is included in the nandroid.
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k2buckley said:
SUre, give me one sec to ........
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Thanks man, a lot!

josh995 said:
Thanks man, a lot!
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You're welcome. Never a problem at all. Let us know if you need any more assistance getting things up and running.

Ok that worked. I now have Amon ra recovery
But, lol, one more question. Amon ra has changed since I've had an evo.. now when I select backup, it has a list of things I want to back up with "[x]" next to them. Which items should I select? It didn't have that feature in the past so I'm a little lost.
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josh995 said:
Ok that worked. I now have Amon ra recovery
But, lol, one more question. Amon ra has changed since I've had an evo.. now when I select backup, it has a list of things I want to back up with "[x]" next to them. Which items should I select? It didn't have that feature in the past so I'm a little lost.
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Right, that feature was added after version 1.8.0 (which I still use). I believe you want to check all of the boxes, for your first backup. (I'm not sure if you need to have everything checked after that, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt). I've seen people say that you only need to back up your wimax one time, then keep the file in a safe place (it's your RSA keys), however I just can't see what the problem is with backing it up each time. I kind of like the simplicity of 1.8.0, just hit backup and let it do it's thing. Whatever the heck 1.8.0 automatically backs up on its own, works perfectly fine for me, lol.
So I would just check everything off, and then let it perform the backup.
EDIT: and sorry I don't have more info on that for ya. I'm sure someone else who regulrarly uses ar 2.3 will chime in, and give you a more solid answer. I just simply don't use that recovery, as I never saw a need to 'upgrade' from 1.8.0, because it has always worked flawlessly for me. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd say you could use 1.8.0 if you wanted to, but I believe it won't work on the 004 hardware phones with the 0040000 size erase block.

Ok cool.
Thanks again
And yes i remember the simple way, things are supposed to get easier as time goes on, not more complicated, haha!
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System backup...consfused...?!???

Hi i have a question. Is there a way to perform complete system backup BEFORE rooting my phone. ...that i can have total system backup like the mobile came with? tnx for answers...

I can't remember for sure, as I've only ever seen it a couple of times, but I think you can backup and restore from the original recovery mode, just like in CWM recovery.
Turn the phone off and then press and hold volume up, home and power. Keep them held till the menu appears. If you can backup and restore from that menu then that's what you're looking for. If you can't then you're probably not gonna get anywhere until you get firmware with CWM flashed. Despite what other people will no doubt say, Titanium Backup will not backup and restore your whole ROM the way it currently is. It's perfect for apps and associated data, but not whole system backups.

johncmolyneux said:
I can't remember for sure, as I've only ever seen it a couple of times, but I think you can backup and restore from the original recovery mode, just like in CWM recovery.
Turn the phone off and then press and hold volume up, home and power. Keep them held till the menu appears. If you can backup and restore from that menu then that's what you're looking for. If you can't then you're probably not gonna get anywhere until you get firmware with CWM flashed. Despite what other people will no doubt say, Titanium Backup will not backup and restore your whole ROM the way it currently is. It's perfect for apps and associated data, but not whole system backups.
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yeah im not sure...i will try. But to have CWM you must have root...so again is rooted and not original...

you can't, all you can do is note the exact rom you are presently using and download it in case you need to go back.
When the phone is rooted and a custom recovery is installed, then you would have the ability to back-up your phone

Just root, install cwm and make a backup although the backup will have root you can just remove it if you ever need to restore the back up
Ricey
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ricey1986 said:
Just root, install cwm and make a backup although the backup will have root you can just remove it if you ever need to restore the back up
Ricey
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i am asking all this because i buy mobile on provider network. so i dont know if they put some settings inside,that canot be undone when root/flash...

Aslong as you backup straight after root i cant see you having problems its only the kernel and recovery that changes that i can gather.
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ricey1986 said:
Aslong as you backup straight after root i cant see you having problems its only the kernel and recovery that changes that i can gather.
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ok many thanks...i didnt know that only the kernel changes...but on other hand im not sure which vodafone original kernel put back when i need it...or deosent mather.???