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Considering Galaxy Tab

I own an HTC Desire HD but I've been after some form of tablet since before Apple walked in with the iPad. Looking around there's no real choice yet but that's going to change in the next few months. Question is, is the Galaxy Tab with getting now or would you (current owners) wait if you were in my position?

Learning to really love the tab, but with the announcements right around the corner I would wait.
Who knows when they will be available, but at least you can then make an informed decision. Only a couple weeks away to see whats coming.
If tabs are going to wait for honeycomb and if the rumors are true that honeycomb wont be available until may or june, then I would say get it now. 6 months is a long time to wait.
With that said wait for the announcements to find out for sure.

I'd only get the Galaxy Tab if I specifically wanted a 7" form factor. If you're more interested in a 10" tablet, wait for Honeycomb.

Note that it is unlikely that the 10"ers will have a higher resolution.

Galaxy Tab or wait
I think difficult time to make a decision like this, wait or not. My experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab is not bad but I also have an iPad and I prefer iPad for photos, videos and internet access when I am at home, SGT is nice to carry when travel but worst quality screen, worst speed drawing screen, etc. SGT have more flexibility with OS upgrades (XDA Forum), memory card, telephone calls, telecom Data Plans, but overall worst than Apple. SGT is very expensive too.
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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Thanks for your opinions guys and / or girls! I was leaning toward waiting already but then I saw the Galaxy Tab had dropped in price and it made me wonder. £399 for the 32GB version is a lot better than when it launched.
Looking on the Engadget site a few minutes ago there's already news from CES of quite a few better tablets to come. The wait for Android 3.0 is holding things back but I think I'll wait.

cocoe68 said:
I don't recommend you to get actual SGT in comparison to iPad or coming tabs from Samsung and many other providers will offer HD video in 10" or less??
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SGT does HD in 7" now

Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
That said, 720p mkv files look amazing on the SGT. In my mind, the ability to display colors better is more important than actual vertical resolution. 600p is nothing to sneeze at.

Just buy one - you wont be sorry.

ftgg99 said:
Just buy one - you wont be sorry.
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I'll second this. If you want a tablet, go get one and don't worry about what may or may not happen weeks or months from now. I bought one a few days ago and it's been my constant companion since bringing it home. That's actually more than I can say for the iPad because it was so much bigger and heavier that it rarely left the house. The Galaxy Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants, it's light, it's fast, it plays Flash video like a champ...you absolutely won't be sorry.

Hanson68 said:
Playing HD videos and displaying HD video are two different things. The SGT is 1024 X 600. HD starts at 1280 X 720.
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Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.

LargePrime said:
Do you have any reason to believe the 10" devices will have better res? Netbooks have been hot for a while now, and all but the super expensive have been locked at ~1024x600or768 in the 10 screens.
I think it is tough to get a higher rez at this size.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows, and getting decent prices on Intel Atom processors. Essentially, neither MS nor Intel wanted to cannibalize sales of their higher end OSs and processors, so introduced artificial restrictions on the specs of netbooks.
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It has nothing to do with that - it's to do with licensing of MS Windows
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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?

I say wait for honeycomb. If then you don't find others that you like better than get the tab. The tab is really great however waiting might pay off.

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You got a source for that?
How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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Imagine the pixel density of a 7" screen with a resolution of 1920x1080 or even 1280x720! I am sure they *can* do it but I doubt anyone would want to pay that much for it.

Exactly! The resolution of these devices is not going to change (much, if at all).
Right now I do not think they even CAN do it, as I can find No devices of any type with such a screen. The smallest is the dell XPS at 13.3" (1980x1080) and HP mini note 9" 1280x800, and those are HIGH END devices.
EDIT: I can find displays, but no actual devices.

After seeing all the announcements so far from CES with Honeycomb tablets and 1280x800 resolution on 10.1" displays plus Tegra 2 chips I'm pretty sure that I'll be holding out. As good as the Galaxy Tab looks and might perform I have to wonder if Samsung will bother releasing Honeycomb for it or treating it as an early adopter product that is shelved or sold alongside newer, higher spec systems without future updates.
With that said the size and portability of the Tab would be very tempting at a lower price point, around £200, but I doubt it'll ever go that low.

There were two announcements at CES that caught attention:
Dell Streak 7, a Dell Streak with a 7' screen.
Motorola Xoom 10' with Honeycombe which looks fantastic but no definate release date.
There was also a Lenovo LePad 7'.

The Motorola Xoom really caught my eye too. I hate myself for saying it but even after the shambles of the update process for the Motorola Milestone the Xoom impressed me so much that I could see myself getting one. I'm still very tempted by the Galaxy Tab but I think I'd be setting myself up for a big loss if Samsung drag their heels on a Honeycomb release like their FroYo updates. Given that they likely have new hardware to release as well it gives them even less incentive to update it.

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Here's a few examples!
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/intel_upping_ante_atom_screen_resolution
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10249250-64.html
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How many 1920x1080 10" or 7" devices have you seen?
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about existing netbooks - I see absolutely no point having that sort of resolution on a 7" or 10" device *regardless* of price.
Best I've seen (and had!) was 1600x768 on a 8" Vaio P, and that was over 2 years ago. However, it really was too small for that resolution. One of the reasons that it was more expensive was because it did not fit into either MS or Intels definition of netbook and therefore, had was not permitted to use low cost Windows (Vista at that time), and the Z-series Atoms over the N series.
Regards,
Dave

Samsung prepping 10" tab with honeycomb for release?

Engadget has the article, but it would be a huge competitor for the xoom.
Http://engadget.com/default/article...honeycomb-for-th/&category=classic&postPage=1
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/samsung-preparing-a-10-1-inch-galaxy-tab-2-with-honeycomb-for-th/
Would that be the link you were trying for? Yeah...
Anyway, great another 3.0 tablet. Made by samsung... Great. Will it be an official Android experience like the xoom? Does it have a dual core? Etc etc... We don't know.

I wouldn't buy a Samsung myself...I'd especially like GPS to work on my tablet.

More detailso leaked today:
The article also mentions that 10.1-inch Honeycomb tablet that we heard of yesterday, confirming it will pack a 1GHz dual-core processor, 8 megapixel camera with "full HD" video recording, and dual surround sound speakers. Sounds promising, but only time will tell whether all this is true or simply a matter of lost in translation.
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engadget.com/2011/02/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-10-1-inch-galaxy-tab-ii-confirmed-for-mw/
Samsung Galaxy S II and 10.1-inch Galaxy Tab II confirmed for MWC, 4-inch 3D display, LTE-based cloud gaming coming later
By Vlad Savov posted Feb 12th 2011 11:59AM
Alright, we've just laid eyes on some internal Samsung documents and can bring you the official names and specs of the successors to the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab. Firstly, the Galaxy S II will tout a 4.3-inch, 800 x 480 Super AMOLED Plus display, a 1GHz dual-core Orion / Exynos processor, NFC, Bluetooth 3.0, and 24Mbps HSPA+ connectivity. All those stats were leaked earlier this morning, along with the image above, and we've once again seen the 8.49mm thickness for this device, although we now believe it is the measurement at its thinnest point -- it's likely that the S II will fatten up to 9.9mm, presumably to accommodate the camera module, one of the last remaining parts of smartphone construction that require extra girth (NFC being another).
As to the Galaxy Tab II, it is indeed the 10.1-inch Honeycomb tablet we've been hearing so much about, with the added bonus of it being a Google Experience Device. That should mean no Samsung-derived skin customizations atop the stock Android 3.0 UI -- exactly what we expect to see from the Motorola Xoom. Also matching the Xoom are the resolution, at 1280 x 800, and CPU speed, at 1GHz, though we couldn't determine whether the Tab II will be a dual- or single-core tablet. Our money's on seeing the Exynos 4210 appear in both new Galaxy devices, but we'll have to wait until Samsung's presser tomorrow to find out for sure. One more note of import on specs: we saw a 16GB / 32GB / 64GB storage listing, but couldn't be sure what product it referred to -- wouldn't it be lovely if the Galaxy S II was the first smartphone to step past the 60GB barrier?
Finally, looking toward the future, Samsung is apparently working on a 4-inch WVGA display with 3D capabilities -- presumably autostereoscopic like LG's Optimus 3D -- and an intriguing "Motion UI" control scheme. The latter will allow you to pan inside Google Maps and StreetView just by the movement of your phone, as well as zoom in and out of pages by tilting the handset up and down (a gyroscope will be required for both functions). Samsung also has big plans for LTE, with a focus on pumping out whatever you receive over the 4G connection to a nearby HDTV using dual display technology. The two applications we caught sight of were personal broadcasting, where your Sammy handset would act as an extremely sophisticated internet TV receiver, and cloud-based gaming. Here's hoping we learn more about these future ventures tomorrow.
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I will buy this over Xoom if:
- It is confirmed (and reviewed) Google Experience Device (no TouchWiz etc!). This is the most crucial thing for any Android tablet that I might buy
- It is dual core (It should be comparable to Xoom)
- It has at least 1GB RAM
- It has the same or better battery life
- It has at least SUPER AMOLED screen (better if SUPER AMOLED Plus)
Then bye-bye Xoom
I am not worried about GPS, because I can trust my Nexus S for that (Or my wife old WinMo + external GPS lol!!!).
And I think, Samsung device is easier to hack (root) compare to Motorola, correct? More XDA dev support!
Old MuckenMire said:
I wouldn't buy a Samsung myself...I'd especially like GPS to work on my tablet.
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Im sure it'll be announced at MWC in less than 12 hours from now. This is definately going to compete with the Xoom. Especially if it will be priced lower than the xoom, which i hope it does. As mentioned above, I hope it runs a dual core processor. I read it has a 8 megapixel rear camera. This tablet is BANGIN!

gogol said:
I am not worried about GPS, because I can trust my Nexus S for that (Or my wife old WinMo + external GPS lol!!!).
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I need foolproof GPS because I'm going to be connecting the Xoom to my Nexus One via wifi hotspot so I can use the Xoom's 10in screen for Google Navigation without having to pay for data(unlimited on AT&T)...I can freaking hardly wait to see Google Nav on a tablet
Besides not being a fan of Apple, that's why I never bought a wifi only iPad. No GPS chip.

What does wifi hotspot via Nexus has anything to do with GPS in the tablet?
Ah yes, Google maps ... hmmm. For me, Google maps is just a "backup" for Sygic Aura
I can imagine you need GPS for mobile navigation, but I cannot picture myself putting the 10.1 tablet at the windshield Too big, and I don't think it is even legal (size wise)?
Oh, and I don't care with the camera either, because I will always carry my Nexus phone OR my digital camera. And it will look weird making photo with a tablet on the street!!! LOL!
Seriously, I would dreaming to have manufacturer that can tailor a tablet as customer order. Similar like Dell.com, which we can choose which component to be included. Certainly, I will exclude 3G/4G, rear camera, no use!!!
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I need foolproof GPS because I'm going to be connecting the Xoom to my Nexus One via wifi hotspot so I can use the Xoom's 10in screen for Google Navigation without having to pay for data(unlimited on AT&T)...I can freaking hardly wait to see Google Nav on a tablet
Besides not being a fan of Apple, that's why I never bought a wifi only iPad. No GPS chip.
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If the Samsung GPS has issues, I'll still get it and ask for directions as opposed to paying $1200 for the Xoom!!!

gogol said:
I will buy this over Xoom if:
- It is confirmed (and reviewed) Google Experience Device (no TouchWiz etc!). This is the most crucial thing for any Android tablet that I might buy
- It is dual core (It should be comparable to Xoom)
- It has at least 1GB RAM
- It has the same or better battery life
- It has at least SUPER AMOLED screen (better if SUPER AMOLED Plus)
Then bye-bye Xoom
I am not worried about GPS, because I can trust my Nexus S for that (Or my wife old WinMo + external GPS lol!!!).
And I think, Samsung device is easier to hack (root) compare to Motorola, correct? More XDA dev support!
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Engadget said:
As to the Galaxy Tab II, it is indeed the 10.1-inch Honeycomb tablet we've been hearing so much about, with the added bonus of it being a Google Experience Device. That should mean no Samsung-derived skin customizations atop the stock Android 3.0 UI -- exactly what we expect to see from the Motorola Xoom. Also matching the Xoom are the resolution, at 1280 x 800, and CPU speed, at 1GHz, though we couldn't determine whether the Tab II will be a dual- or single-core tablet. Our money's on seeing the Exynos 4210 appear in both new Galaxy devices, but we'll have to wait until Samsung's presser tomorrow to find out for sure. One more note of import on specs: we saw a 16GB / 32GB / 64GB storage listing
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The Super AMOLED screen is doubtful (to me... it just doesn't seem likely for some reason), the dual-core CPU is a given, and I'm sure good battery life is also an obvious feature. I assume 1GB of RAM will be present as well.
And it looks like I was right: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-official-tegra-2-honeycomb-dual-camer/
This is what I think I want!

Lighter, I like that. But no words on RAM and no USB port?
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Samsung is also offering a 16gb model which should be cheaper and allow for more people to afford the tablet as compared to the Xoom. I have not seen any word of a micro sd card slot which would be disappointing if it did not have one.
The battery is also 6860 mah any idea how large the xooms is? Battery life should be similar per mah considering the specs are basically the same and running the same software.

I won't buy if there is no SD card slot.
That's silly.
Oh by the way, is it possible to charge this on USB power connected to a laptop for example?
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Samsung is also offering a 16gb model which should be cheaper and allow for more people to afford the tablet as compared to the Xoom. I have not seen any word of a micro sd card slot which would be disappointing if it did not have one.
The battery is also 6860 mah any idea how large the xooms is? Battery life should be similar per mah considering the specs are basically the same and running the same software.
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It seems like Samsung tried to somewhat replicate the iPad.
This thing is missing lots of ports that many of the other Honeycomb tablets have.

No USB and HDMI port, that sucks big time.
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bd85 said:
No USB and HDMI port, that sucks big time.
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+1.
What is 1080p playback and 1080p recording for?

nashmage said:
Samsung is also offering a 16gb model which should be cheaper and allow for more people to afford the tablet as compared to the Xoom. I have not seen any word of a micro sd card slot which would be disappointing if it did not have one.
The battery is also 6860 mah any idea how large the xooms is? Battery life should be similar per mah considering the specs are basically the same and running the same software.
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Battery for the Xoom lasts 10hours..my dell streak 7 only lasts about 3 to 4 hours

Would the removal of the extra peripherals (HDMI, USB, etc.) lower the price? Or does it not matter?

Eclair~ said:
Would the removal of the extra peripherals (HDMI, USB, etc.) lower the price? Or does it not matter?
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Lower the weight, mainly, then they boost the price because of lighter weights LOL

Upcoming Samsung devices with launch dates leaked

http://phandroid.com/2011/08/18/new-samsung-roadmap-leaked-now-with-expected-launch-dates/#Xpulse
Most interesting is the GT-I9250 with super amoled HD display with launch date of week 48 (Nov end). This is rumoured to be the Nexus prime, can't wait for ice cream sandwich with HD display

might get the prime but 4.65 inch screen is too much!!
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blickmanic said:
might get the prime but 4.65 inch screen is too much!!
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Depends on whether the traditional buttons are indeed moved to the screen. If so then the larger screen can fit in a smaller device.
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newter55 said:
Depends on whether the traditional buttons are indeed moved to the screen. If so then the larger screen can fit in a smaller device.
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I agree. It'll be the same size as SGS2, just with extra screen space on the bottom for the on screen keys and such.

I thought 4.3 was too big... I don't anymore.
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GT-I9220 (W43) Android 2.3.3, 4.3-inch 1280×720 Super AMOLED display, 1.4Ghz dual-core processor and 8MP camera.
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this seems like its a S2 over clocked wonder if we are able to swap the screen into our S2's once parts are available

Keep in mind that there's a VERY real chance that the 720p S-AMOLED will be a return to pentile matrix. And I like buttons on a phone, so I don't think I'm going to have a lot of Nexus envy.

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Keep in mind that there's a VERY real chance that the 720p S-AMOLED will be a return to pentile matrix. And I like buttons on a phone, so I don't think I'm going to have a lot of Nexus envy.
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The pentile used on the first Galaxy S was acceptable, I honestly was not blown away by the 50% more pixels with the SAMOLED+ , If it does actually improve the image quality compared from the S1 then Im all in!

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this one sounds exactly the spec of the Samsung Hercules (Galaxy S2 for Tmobile USA)
this other one is too huge for a phone, seems like it might be a mini tablet
GT-I9250 (W48) Android Ice Cream Sandwich, 4.65-inch 1280×720 Super AMOLED display, 5MP camera.
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also notice the crappy camera they put in
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GT-I9220 (W43) Android 2.3.3, 4.3-inch 1280×720 Super AMOLED display, 1.4Ghz dual-core processor and 8MP camera.
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this seems like yet another variant of the Galaxy S2, with faster clocked CPU... probably the "Captivate" equivalent version?

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this seems like yet another variant of the Galaxy S2, with faster clocked CPU... probably the "Captivate" equivalent version?
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That was my first thought too BUT I will be PISSED if it doesn't come to ATT on Aug. 29th or close to it as Samsung already promised for US versions in August. I TRUELY HOPE the rumors are correct and SINCE the att version should be released before any of the dates shown is just all the phones that will be coming in the future that aren't ALREADY PLANNED for release. Damn I hope I am not getting my hopes up too high for Aug. 29th. That is the day I am elegible for upgrade also...
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EarlZ said:
The pentile used on the first Galaxy S was acceptable, I honestly was not blown away by the 50% more pixels with the SAMOLED+ , If it does actually improve the image quality compared from the S1 then Im all in!
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I wasn't blown away either by the screen on the Galaxy S II coming from my Captivate, until the other day. I switched to the Captivate to take it on a bike ride, just in case something happened, I would rather that phone break and I noticed a huge difference in screen clarity and quality. So from Galaxy S to the Galaxy S II, the difference does not seem like much. However, when you go the other way, you will see what you are missing.

Quad core asus tablet announced , would you upgrade

A the title says Asus announced a quad core Nvidia tegra 3 tablet ,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-unveils-transformer-2-at-asiad/ personally if I get icecream sandwich I won't upgrade . What do you think ?
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Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.

Tivo7 said:
Quadcore....tempting...
But I agree, if we get ICS, I'm stickin to Gtab.
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like you I'm very tempted esp after seeing the pics of the new Transformer Prime. If I don't do an impulsive purchase, I'll wait to see if Samsung is going to release a Quadcore GTab.

If it's thinner, lighter and price-wise = or cheaper than the GT then hell yeah!

not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195

Maybe in a year or two, but I don't feel the need to update just because there's a newer faster Tablet on the horizon. I bought my Tab for what it's capable of doing right now.

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not even sure if we're gonna get ICS on tabs now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312195
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On the emulator they found the tablet interface so ICS IS DESIGNED FOR TABLETS ALSO see the vudeo on engadget
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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.

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Who wouldn't like a faster processor? They're just planning to launch a 3G version of the Transformer I this month and it'll only have a HSPA 14.4 modem. I (finally) got my new 3G Tab from the UK yesterday. It's got a different display, pulls 8GB down on AT&T, and the KH3 ROM vastly improves screen responsiveness and transitions. Hardware's just one part of the equation. Samsung's audio and video codec support is second to none. If I abandon ship, it'll be to a quad-core Samsung Tab.
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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I could care less about the display honestly

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What do you mean by a different display. Aren't all galaxy tab 10.1 uses samsung super PLS display
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I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.

If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined.
Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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Putting a Turbo charged engine in a lawnmower doesn't make it a porsche.
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wpghtc said:
If the build quality on the quad core is the same as the reg TF, then NO. The TF is a crappy product. The Tab is much more refined
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The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
In my opinion, the TF is a different class of product to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, which is a definitely a "purer" tablet experience, and in general I do prefer my GT10.1 over my TF.
However, when I go on vacation next week, I will probably leave my GT10.1 at home, and take the Asus TF with dock instead because of the advantages the dock brings.
If the new TF can bring the tablet experience of the GT10.1, with the flexibility of the TF dock, I'm sold.
Regards,
Dave

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm still setting up the new Tab. Once I'm done I'll post the differences between it and the U.S. Wi-Fi version I've been using. The display's definately different. Maybe they updated it because of the Newton rings. When you look at it from the side, you can see a very subtle texture under the glass. Also, the color temperature is cooler and colors aren't as exagerated. It's a definite improvement (to me). The back has also been changed. It's now solid black with a soft-touch coating vs. the metal-esque grey plastic of the Wi-Fi version. The UK 3G Tabs were received by resellers last week and have an October build date.
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I have got the uk 3g here in Egypt from Vodafone official store and I liked the black back allot more valuable than both metallic and write backs, thanks for your reply and wating for your comparison between the two versions
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foxmeister said:
The build quality on my TF is perfectly fine - it is in no way a crappy product.
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I wouldn't call it "crappy" but I'd say it's pretty average. I looked at all the tablets before buying the G-Tab and none of them were as refined h/w wise. The Transformer's I played with all creaked and the display wan't as good as the G-Tab. Friends have Transformer's and some have had to either exchange them or send them in for service for various h/w issues. (And I know, the G-Tab has Newton rings but it hasn't effected my two or those owned by friends.)

is it not scaring any of you that quad cores are coming so fast.. it means google and the manifacturers did not even give their tablets a year to sit on their thrones (not even a half year for many ones).. it gives me the fear of being outdated "abnormally fast" (please mind that statement=abnormally fast) no matter what i buy... and now there is the risk for our tegra 2 tablets not to get ICS.. it also scares me to be outdated easily again.. i mean, if the biggest rival apple is still caring about their iphone 3gs even after 2 more new models, what manifacturers are doing sounds so nokia-ish (like giving birth to many children but not caring about their growing).. is it not?

No plans on switching. Waiting for ICS update and I will be happy.
Regarding TF201 I don't really fancy the "rings" used on on the back and the bezel that is big. But it got better battery with the dock (hence the big bezel).
Love my Galaxy Tab and wouldn't trade it for a Transformer.

The tab I want next is based on these factors:
- form: how thin and portable is it
- display: must be vivid and sharp, no les than samsung quality
- expansion: absolute must. itis the single place the STab failed on for me
- price: has to be market price or better, no first adopter prices please
- processor: the more powerful a processor you get, the less likley you will need to upgarde for a longer term
I will hold no loyalty to a brand, but some brands do things better insome areas than others. For now, the Asus pad, at least visually, looks pretty sweet.

If the quad/tegra3 can play my 1080p mkv content off my portable hard drive while connected to a HDTV with the HDMI cable plugged in then I'm sold.
As of right now when I bring movies home to my parents for my dad to watch I still have to use my bulky laptop. I got the tab in hopes I could decrease my travel weight. Alas I've only added as now I bring my tab AND my laptop.
So sad.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 Successor?

Hi Guys,
I currently own the Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800 and love the device (especially after the ICS upgrade).
Such a nice combination of size, and functionality.
With the Galxy Note 2 reportedly coming out soon, what do you guys think about the Tab 7.7 successor?
I believe the Note and Tab 7.7 were announced the same time last year.

pimpnyak said:
Hi Guys,
I currently own the Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6800 and love the device (especially after the ICS upgrade).
Such a nice combination of size, and functionality.
With the Galxy Note 2 reportedly coming out soon, what do you guys think about the Tab 7.7 successor?
I believe the Note and Tab 7.7 were announced the same time last year.
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Don't ask me how I know this, but there is (or was as of a few months ago) a successor planned.

I also love the 7.7 because of the size, super amoled plus screen and the build quality but that comes at a high price compared to other tablets.
I would love Samsung to release a successor with a higher resolution screen (1920*1080), 2GB of memory, 2-GHz quad-core processor, S-Pen and Jelly bean which would make upgrading worthwhile.

Gaugerer said:
I would love Samsung to release a successor with a higher resolution screen (1920*1080), 2GB of memory, 2-GHz quad-core processor, S-Pen and Jelly bean which would make upgrading worthwhile.
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would also make it the most badass tablet of all time

Gaugerer said:
I also love the 7.7 because of the size, super amoled plus screen and the build quality but that comes at a high price compared to other tablets.
I would love Samsung to release a successor with a higher resolution screen (1920*1080), 2GB of memory, 2-GHz quad-core processor, S-Pen and Jelly bean which would make upgrading worthwhile.
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Lets get a petition going. Ask them to sell it for $700-$900 gsm unlocked through google play. I'd pay $1000 for THIS one if it had a wacom digitizer...
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that would be nice... but dont want to pay premium for a device thats not future proof. Samsung and Google should go for 7.7 Nexus (premium device):fingers-crossed:

well if the new tab is a Samoled+ and 1080p along with the same battery timing and a 2gb ram + quadcore+ maintaining the same thin form factor then i will pay twice the price of the current one.... and i would love it like hell if there are two slots for microsd cards rather than just one... that would be the ultimate feature...

So, gentlemen, we've brainstormed the perfect SUPERTAB, now how do we get samsung (the sAMOLED+ patent holder) to make one?
7.7" form factor
sAMOLED+ with wacom digitizer (aka s-pen functionality)
243dpi or 1080p
2 sd card slots or perhaps 1 micro USB
GSM cell and data radio
5500miliamp bat.
1.4 ghz quad-core
2GB RAM
Really, the nexus, note, gTab 7.7, and 10.1 should all be galaxy class devices and have similar specs. Release them all at once, every holiday.
How do we get samsung to even consider a premium tier, mid tier and low-end tier though?
Their approach is so scattershot, there's no way they'd ever operate this way.
Granted, sAMOLED+ will be replaced SOON. My guess is 2015, likely by motorola or apple,
Capacitive brushes and precision styli won't require wacom forever... it wasn't hard to come up with what would make the next gen version of the p68xx worth paying for, so how do we move this forward?
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hope they include
-IR blaster
-mini USBport
-8-12mpxl main cam with xenon flash
-thinner bezel
they should redesign the speaker positions like those gtabs in germany wherein the speakers are on top and the bottom of the device (front facing i think)
so that whenever I play something, I won't inadvertently cover the speaker ports

Are you kidding?
I've only just started using my 7.7 in earnest after the ICS update.
Hoping a Jelly Bean rom will appear in the coming months and a 7.7 successor will be irrelevant

scoobydu said:
Are you kidding?
I've only just started using my 7.7 in earnest after the ICS update.
Hoping a Jelly Bean rom will appear in the coming months and a 7.7 successor will be irrelevant
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i agree to this. but yeah a successor would be nice. as long as my current 7.7 can do what i want it to do then i'm fine with it hehe.
for me, at least, the features that i would like for it to have is:
- higher resolution/dpi screen
- 8 or 12mp camera at the back
- 3 or 5mp camera in front
- removable/replaceable battery (no tablet has this i think)
- microUSB suporrt
- a better and faster media scanner (current one is pretty slow)
- orientation lock for the native video player
- better/louder speakers
- support for external hard drive usage
- dual sim support
- dual microSD suport
- keep receiver mode (love that i can call and send text messages using this tablet)
speaking of impossible, it would be awesome if the tab industry makes a tablet that can fold the screen into two, making it two screens. just unfold to return back to the full screen. LOL

cptnappy said:
i agree to this. but yeah a successor would be nice. as long as my current 7.7 can do what i want it to do then i'm fine with it hehe.
speaking of impossible, it would be awesome if the tab industry makes a tablet that can fold the screen into two, making it two screens. just unfold to return back to the full screen. LOL
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Sony has a gaming "phablet" that doea this,
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I m with you on that! Even ics is half ass effort by sammy. Wifi is not working on my hk tab after the upgrade. Battery dies quickly. They should fix what we have now before asking ask to spend more $ on a new device
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We will never be satisfied
cptnappy said:
i agree to this. but yeah a successor would be nice. as long as my current 7.7 can do what i want it to do then i'm fine with it hehe.
for me, at least, the features that i would like for it to have is:
- higher resolution/dpi screen
- 8 or 12mp camera at the back
- 3 or 5mp camera in front
- removable/replaceable battery (no tablet has this i think)
- microUSB suporrt
- a better and faster media scanner (current one is pretty slow)
- orientation lock for the native video player
- better/louder speakers
- support for external hard drive usage
- dual sim support
- dual microSD suport
- keep receiver mode (love that i can call and send text messages using this tablet)
speaking of impossible, it would be awesome if the tab industry makes a tablet that can fold the screen into two, making it two screens. just unfold to return back to the full screen. LOL
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Why have you stopped?
But seriously, there is no reason why these can't be included in a tab, but the drawbacks, I believe are:
1) Google want people to use "cloud"/internet to save and retrieve information from - not USB or internal storage - more advertising revenue (?)
2) The reason for a non-replaceable battery is that it is of a much better quality, whilst keeping production costs down - spare part batteries may also keep the device going longer than Samsung wish.
3) other things will come as technology improves and costs are kept under control - e.g. producing a drastically better dpi screen would double the price of the tab because that is not the current norm.
Anyway, this time next year, a lot of these wishes could be the norm.

A removable battery should be included, what happens when the original battery dies? Are we gonna be forced to buy a new tab because we can't replace battery?
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7.7" SAMOLED 286 PPI @ 1080P, oh man that screen would be gorgeous... That screen + Exynos Quad + 2GB of RAM would be pretty sweet device (and realistic too). Because they can make higher PPI displays using pentile matrix on OLED tech. (S III has 306 PPI).

Unfortunately with the release and pricing of the Nexus 7, I'll be surprised to see Samsung continue to compete in this area... Which is unfortunate with the many features I appreciate missing in the Nexus.

bleclair said:
Unfortunately with the release and pricing of the Nexus 7, I'll be surprised to see Samsung continue to compete in this area... Which is unfortunate with the many features I appreciate missing in the Nexus.
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The next nexus tablet could be a motorola, which has licensed the sAMOLED patent from samsung, or samsung manufactured the screen for the droid razr... also, toshiba has released a sAMOLED tablet, but I've been too busy fawning over mine to pay much attention to it.
I'd be willing to bet a "nexus line" of products will be coming along soon. Mid-high range devices for professionals and not just enthusiasts...

that day will come
adinis78 said:
A removable battery should be included, what happens when the original battery dies? Are we gonna be forced to buy a new tab because we can't replace battery?
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You are right. Will there be 3rd parties willing to offer replacing batteries? I fear a period of time will come when people start ripping out the insides to replace parts and they won't be able to. The battery is my prime suspect.

Suggest it to Engadget and get them to post it up on their site.
Apparently Samsung look to their comments section for feedback on their devices (their laptops anyway).