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I am at "1d 3h 26m 36s since unplugged" and sitting at 73% battery, which is probably better than I have ever seen.. the 2 changes I made were
a) removing Home++ so I could try ADWLauncher (this was just for kicks)
b) as a consequence of removing Home++, my home screen widgets were removed, and I chose not to re-add most.
This made me wonder about widgets... ie I realized that I never see any widgets listed when I look at the battery consumption stats??
I was wondering if maybe widgets were "absorbed" into the Phone Idle or Cell Standby stats? (ie. they were run too close to the OS to be separated out by the battery use routine?)
EDIT: all of my searches kept returning widgets that reported battery status, instead of the info described above
It makes sense that when something is constantly updating itself it is constantly using battery, no?
JAguirre1231 said:
It makes sense that when something is constantly updating itself it is constantly using battery, no?
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Did you even bother to read what he was asking? Did you even read the TITLE?
He's asking if it gets reported, recorded, if he can somehow look up how much battery they are using. He never once suggests anything close to asking if they use battery. Actually, he clearly points out that they DO and he wants to be able to see how much.
As for OP, don't know. What are you using to see battery history? In Spare Parts I see nothing like this, and I would assume that they use quite a lot, also depending on how often you have them set to update, etc.
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Did you even bother to read what he was asking? Did you even read the TITLE?
He's asking if it gets reported, recorded, if he can somehow look up how much battery they are using. He never once suggests anything close to asking if they use battery. Actually, he clearly points out that they DO and he wants to be able to see how much.
As for OP, don't know. What are you using to see battery history? In Spare Parts I see nothing like this, and I would assume that they use quite a lot, also depending on how often you have them set to update, etc.
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I read it and to me it sounded like he was wondering if they used more battery. So, I DID read it, just misunderstood.
In my tiny brain, it sounded like he was wondering if it had been reported that widgets use more battery.
I made a mistake, it is perfectly acceptable to do so. Part of life is making said mistakes and learning from them.
And before anyone says something, I do indeed have a tiny brain, around the size of a raisin.
Anyways, back on topic. If they are kept anywhere I would be willing to bet they are grouped with "Cell Standby".
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If they are kept anywhere I would be willing to bet they are grouped with "Cell Standby".
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That's as far as my small brain got as well. Alas,(if that is the case) that would make it tough to ferret out the "expensive" (in terms of battery usage) widgets
Well, you can kinda at least group by simple logic. Which ones use most memory? Which ones update most often? You won't get numbers, but you'll at least be able to weed out that one widget that takes 6 battery every 30 minutes.
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zim2dive said:
That's as far as my small brain got as well. Alas,(if that is the case) that would make it tough to ferret out the "expensive" (in terms of battery usage) widgets
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As the poster above me said, group it by logic. Things like Twicca's widget will use the least amount of power (However, Twicca won't) because all it does is launch different parts of the app. Then there are things like Beautiful Widgets which check the weather at a set amount of time. Using this example (and if these are the only widgets on your home screen), we would want to remove Beautiful Widgets to save battery before we remove the Twicca Widget.
Likewise, if we want to save battery we can have these widgets update less often.
The Helix launcher, the solution to the problems with the battery of the X10.
I think the main problem of the X10's battery consumption is the original launcher, which should have a process that stays resident and eats the battery.
With the Helix launcher, I managed to go from 12/14 hours of battery life up to 36 hours!
is that with your wifi on?
dude, what version of it are you using?
where can I found Helix Launcher for X10?
http://anonym.to/?http://helixproject.ruqqq.sg/
The bottom one?
Correct you want HelixLauncherDonut.
I'm trying it now, I can get about 16 hours with moderate use on standard Home.
CompactDstrxion said:
Correct you want HelixLauncherDonut.
I'm trying it now, I can get about 16 hours with moderate use on standard Home.
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okay, i'll check it...
with my BT & WIFI off, the battery went down to 40% from 100% in 7 hours over night (IM+ was running). it's really bad!!!
my Blackberry 9700 with all IMs, weahter app, emails sync... uses only less than 8% over night.
proatiku said:
dude, what version of it are you using?
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HelixLauncherDONUT_1.2.apk
Best Regards
I debranded my fone to R1fa016 hoping to address the battery problem.. it started hopeful but went downhill after..
My standard usage waz switchin 3g on when needed, wifi at home here and there, bluetooth off, gps off unless needed and it used to last only like 10-13hrz.
However i saw option on wifi settings to never sleep and after seein mixed reviews online i thought id try it and i must say im really impressed..
Yesterday, i used 3g for bout an hr, a few quick callz, some msgz, about 2hrz of listenin to music and random phone usage from 11.30am to around half 1 in mornin today and battery waz around 70%.. then used wifi after for about hr n half and i happen to knock off cause i waz tired so wifi waz stil runnin til 11.30am and ma battery was at 45%.
I dnt like low battery so i charged it extra 20minz before I went work which brought battery life upto 62%. Today ive used about 2hrz of 3g, 3hrz of music, alot of callz n msgz and writing this long ass essay lolz and im down to 7%
Im happy with my new battery life.. and sorry 4 the boring essay but hope it helps!
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ill give it a try, im charging twice everyday!
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Battery update, 2 hours standby, 99%
what exactly is this app, where do i configure its settings? does it run on top of my other home screen?
It's an alternative home app with more features. Download the donut version from http://anonym.to/?http://helixproject.ruqqq.sg/, install and then when you press home choose Helix. Ideally set as default then reset the phone to make sure you have the default home unloaded.
cool, I've played around with it, pretty neat, will it really help battery life if i put more home screens and running widgets?
robbyf66 said:
cool, I've played around with it, pretty neat, will it really help battery life if i put more home screens and running widgets?
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It could do. The theory is the default home is bugged and drains battery. If Helix works better then it should use virtually no CPU when idle. A buggy widget could drain battery just as easily, but if you use more homescreens then the only difference should be in RAM usage I think.
guys, how to I get it onto my x10?
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guys, how to I get it onto my x10?
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Download the application from here: Helix Launcher Donut 1.2, Put it anywhere on your sd card. Download a program such as astro that can install .apk files. Open astro, find the helix launcher in it and tap it. Select install.
this is really saving my battery, very little battery drain after 8 hours!
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Whats the difference between HL Donut and HL 2.0? Why are people saying to get Donut?
guys..scroll down to the bottom of the page for donut version
brb...observing improvements on battery life
I have no prior experience with live wallpapers before getting my Vibrant. Do any nexus one users or other 2.1 early adopters have experience with battery life and using a live wallpaper for everyday use?
My battery info shows that the live wallpaper only uses about 2% of the battery but my screen takes up like 40%, isn't there some sort of connection?
What is your question?
-bZj
I'm using the "Ocean Waves" live wallpaper and haven't had any problems with short battery life or low system resources because of it. It's fun to play with and great for showing off to people and has made one iPhone 4 user actually hang his head in shame after talking about how great it was that he can have a background on his phone now.
I use nexus works fine battery life is good
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I don't know exactly how you find that info buy under battery usage, "magic smoke" set to red and it says my display has only used 9% of the battery... but I think that's not even close to the values you are giving...
EDIT: Yeah, that's the wrong stats... where do you get that info?
I have had good battery life with this thing so far (as much as I play with it), but that is only in comparison of a g1 I got just after they first came out that has been hacked to hell and back...
i like the ocean waves one...
Thanks for the feedback guys. I plan on keeping my live wallpaper. After using them, its hard to go back to static wallpapers.
If you want maximum battery saving from your wallpaper... true black doesnt use any battery. Google true black in your phone browser, save, set as wallpaper. I havent had any problems with battery from live wallpapers though..
degeneration said:
I don't know exactly how you find that info buy under battery usage, "magic smoke" set to red and it says my display has only used 9% of the battery... but I think that's not even close to the values you are giving...
EDIT: Yeah, that's the wrong stats... where do you get that info?
I have had good battery life with this thing so far (as much as I play with it), but that is only in comparison of a g1 I got just after they first came out that has been hacked to hell and back...
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Settings --> About phone --> Battery use
Morbo66 said:
Settings --> About phone --> Battery use
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That's what I was looking at but it doesn't have information on my love wallpaper usage, just display in general...
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what about new ones? or only stock ones available ? New live ones would be cool that use less power etc.
I just want to know what kills the battery the most on your nexus s
........and do y'all use auto brightness
pkilla said:
I just want to know what kills the battery the most on your nexus s
........and do y'all use auto brightness
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If you have the RGB multipliers on the voodoo app to full and brightness on full you will get 2:30 mins lollol, found that out at uni yesterday;P
But that was heavy usage as well But i could see everything on the screen in direct bright sunshine)
Biggest killers are things like powerAMP(but worth it), virus scanners, anything you have syncing under 1 hour...
I never use auto brightness
Just common sense stuff dude really
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If you have the RGB multipliers on the voodoo app to full and brightness on full you will get 2:30 mins lollol, found that out at uni yesterday;P
But that was heavy usage as well But i could see everything on the screen in direct bright sunshine)
Biggest killers are things like powerAMP(but worth it), virus scanners, anything you have syncing under 1 hour...
I never use auto brightness
Just common sense stuff dude really
JD
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I'm still on stock 2.3.2 not rooted so I don't got any of that voodoo **** but I guess auto brightness does
More damage then help
3g data is a big one. You can switch the phone to 2g when your not using the internet or sending and receiving pictures. YouTube / videos, and music are the main killers. If you limit the use and use SETCPU to underclock the phones processor then you'd be fine.
I normally get about 14-15 hours from moderate use with 3g data, GPS setting and auto brightness all on. In my opinion that is excellent especially considering what the phone can do.
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3g data is a big one. You can switch the phone to 2g when your not using the internet or sending and receiving pictures. YouTube / videos, and music are the main killers. If you limit the use and use SETCPU to underclock the phones processor then you'd be fine.
I normally get about 14-15 hours from moderate use with 3g data, GPS setting and auto brightness all on. In my opinion that is excellent especially considering what the phone can do.
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what? i get 24 hours+ with 3G (HSDPA) on all day. this is only true depending on your location, if you're in a place with weak 3G signal, then yes it'll drain.. but that applies to anything. if you have weak service, it'll stress more on the radio causing more battery to be used.
SetCPU: Profiles will cause phone to reboot/shut down etc etc. All sorts of problems can happen. And OP said he's not rooted so this is not an option.
My brightness is set to 0.00%
the screen is by far the biggest battery drain, nothing else comes close!
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the screen is by far the biggest battery drain, nothing else comes close!
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not if you use all black
That's true that nexus s screen be eating up the battery I got mine on
medium I guess the best way to go is 00% at least at work.... at medium I get
The most 10hr from like 6am to 5pm y'all dudes need to stop
Lying saying y'all get a whole 24hours with heavy use that's bull****.
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That's true that nexus s screen be eating up the battery I got mine on
medium I guess the best way to go is 00% at least at work.... at medium I get
The most 10hr from like 6am to 5pm y'all dudes need to stop
Lying saying y'all get a whole 24hours with heavy use that's bull****.
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Yeah, I definitely don't understand how people claim 24 hours on heavy use. I get about 14 hours on moderate use.
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Yeah, I definitely don't understand how people claim 24 hours on heavy use. I get about 14 hours on moderate use.
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no one ever said heavy use.. moderate use, i could go on for 24 hours+ easily.
its not "bull****" all you have to do is:
A) Apps with syncing (reduce them to 2 hours+ rather than every 10min/30m/1hour)
B) USE BLACK WALLPAPERS! this is a must. white on the Nexus S (or any Super AMOLED screen) is absolutely kryptonite
C) Flash a custom ROM + Netarchy's 1.3.0.2 CFS Kernel. (This is a must as well)
D) GPS/WiFi/BT off.
E) Possibly recalibrate your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031531 Attached is your proof. NSCollab is pretty much CM7 + some minor modifications.
Now can y'all stop being disrespectful? We're not here to say our battery lasts over 24 hours+ just to mess with your head and make you feel bad. It's the truth. You just need to do these little small things to get the best out of your battery.
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no one ever said heavy use.. moderate use, i could go on for 24 hours+ easily.
its not "bull****" all you have to do is:
A) Apps with syncing (reduce them to 2 hours+ rather than every 10min/30m/1hour)
B) USE BLACK WALLPAPERS! this is a must. white on the Nexus S (or any Super AMOLED screen) is absolutely kryptonite
C) Flash a custom ROM + Netarchy's 1.3.0.2 CFS Kernel. (This is a must as well)
D) GPS/WiFi/BT off.
E) Possibly recalibrate your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031531 Attached is your proof. NSCollab is pretty much CM7 + some minor modifications.
Now can y'all stop being disrespectful? We're not here to say our battery lasts over 24 hours+ just to mess with your head and make you feel bad. It's the truth. You just need to do these little small things to get the best out of your battery.
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Who's being disrespectful? Did I say anything disrespectful? I can believe 24 hours on moderate use while doing the things you mentioned.
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adb logcat people!
Pretty simple: plug in phone to pc and open up a command prompt and type adb logcat
If you can't keep up with the lines running then you got issues
I ended up uninstalling crap loads of unnecesary apps that were wasting resources... getting a day and a half now
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Who's being disrespectful? Did I say anything disrespectful? I can believe 24 hours on moderate use while doing the things you mentioned.
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The OP.. not you; just the first part was meant towards you. sorry
That's true that nexus s screen be eating up the battery I got mine on
medium I guess the best way to go is 00% at least at work.... at medium I get
The most 10hr from like 6am to 5pm y'all dudes need to stop
Lying saying y'all get a whole 24hours with heavy use that's bull****.
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technically speaking the phone can last several days in standby
Push email/gmail on 3g kills the battery pretty fast.
Push email (exchange) + push gmail on 3g destroys the battery
So if you "push" sync anything (email, twitter, latitude etc) on 3g, you can simply forget about a decent battery life.
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pkilla said:
That's true that nexus s screen be eating up the battery I got mine on
medium I guess the best way to go is 00% at least at work.... at medium I get
The most 10hr from like 6am to 5pm y'all dudes need to stop
Lying saying y'all get a whole 24hours with heavy use that's bull****.
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Just because you haven't been able to achieve it doesn't mean people are lying to you. I have a thread about my battery life lasting 24hrs+ and I still had 16% when I put it on the charger. And that was with 2.5 hrs of calling, the screen on for a couple hours, syncing, facebooking, video recording and uploading, and some other things. Maybe you should take a look at that thread and see what you can do differently instead of being disrespectful.
In case you have not try this, you can try disable Location service from 'Location & Security' settings. Turn off both 'Use wireless networks' and 'Use GPS satellites'.
This worked for me.
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The OP.. not you; just the first part was meant towards you. sorry
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up and I do agree with your previous post. It definitely makes sense.
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It's a combination of all of the above.... location and push email (other than gmail..I have my work email updating every hour) and bright colored screens are the 3 killers I found...and obviously staying on 3G adds to it.. I can last a good 17-19 hours on mostly 2G (maybe 3G when downloading heavy stuff), with just above average use... that number is good enough for me...charging overnight is all I need.. I also have weatherbug updating every 2 hours...
oh and make sure u don't have that init bug... using OS monitor, check if /init keeps fluctuating...if so, check the debug mode in your settings,.. always have the box checked and you will notice a huge difference
funny how people freak out when someone has done something that they perceive as unachievable... just like when android was ported to the HD2 XD everyone that saw mine was like WTF!? now its all normal and expected @[email protected]
but just as everyone has been mentioning, there are ways to get 24+ hours of battery life, its just all the small things that make a difference =)
Ok so i've downloaded a live wallpaper called shadow galaxy from the market. Probably one of the nicest wallpapers ive seen but it will literally kill my battery in 8hrs. I mean man...
Shouldn't the wallpaper go into some kind of standby when the screen is off so that it doesnt eat at the battery?
I mean approx 8hrs from 90% to dead and not even touching the phone is nuts. I went to sleep and it was at 7% when i woke up!
That's the reason why most people go with the standard wallpapers instead of live ones. It's just not worth it.
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Ok so i've downloaded a live wallpaper called shadow galaxy from the market. Probably one of the nicest wallpapers ive seen but it will literally kill my battery in 8hrs. I mean man...
Shouldn't the wallpaper go into some kind of standby when the screen is off so that it doesnt eat at the battery?
I mean approx 8hrs from 90% to dead and not even touching the phone is nuts. I went to sleep and it was at 7% when i woke up!
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Sounds like it was poorly coded. Uninstall the live wallpaper and move on.
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Sounds like it was poorly coded. Uninstall the live wallpaper and move on.
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They all do it. Even the bundled.ones in the phone completely rape your battery. I've tried them. No live wallpaper is worth it, imo.
Battery life is the most important than after "does it work?" in a mobile phone/smartphone to me.
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why do you hate your battery? lol live wallpaper = massive battery drain
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I've used Photile Pro for weeks and my battery doesn't seem to drain any faster than from normal use with a non-Live Wallpaper. Coding does make a difference and not all of them are horrible on your battery.
I used to use solar winds and usually got decent battery life with it. It was the only LWP that wouldn't kill my fone. Give it a try for a few days.
I use live wallpapers because everytime I turn the screen on my to my phone i jizm almost instantly. I then use the jizm as a screen cleaner. This is why I like to use the live wallpaper!
Haven't run into a badly coded LWP in a while, I'm using Flurry Live and it doesn't affect my battery at all
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Haven't run into a badly coded LWP in a while, I'm using Flurry Live and it doesn't affect my battery at all
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You may still get good battery life while using a live wallpaper but there's no doubt you'll get even better without it. Even the best of them still take load on the battery, after all, they're background running apps.
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You may still get good battery life while using a live wallpaper but there's no doubt you'll get even better without it. Even the best of them still take load on the battery, after all, they're background running apps.
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Yep. They use a grid chunk of ram as well... There are no good upside to using them. A pure black background does wonders for your battery though
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