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[Q] Juice Defender

I have heard good things about juice defender, but i have a basic question. It says it turns of data during times, or when certain apps are running, etc...
Now, is the data only internet connection? Or will it interfere with my ability to get texts as well, because that would be a deal break for me.

Data is only the internet. The only things that you'll be missing out on are e-mails, which will still come through based on your schedule set up and when you have your screen on.
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Heard so much about this app, tried it and took me only a few hours to remove it. When screen is off, it kills data, so basically apps like K-9 Mail that push my IMAP-idle email accounts and poll other accounts are basically impotent.
Plus the interface is confusing with a myriad of settings and no real hold on what settings stick or what not to set. I understand the concept of the app but it's not for me. With stock rom and mediahub-DRM-whatever-process killed off manually, i get by a work day with 50% left over on the train/bus-ride home, more than enough to do stuff before i get home.

I dave been using juicedefender for 3 weeks and it has maximized my batt an overall of 1.4x. The interface is confusing for those that don't spend time and learn it....its granular.
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U can set it to fcetch data on certain time intervals and u can get emails like that
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I'm totally happy with it - I'm getting a rating of around 1.7x to 1.9x I know I can easily go a full day on one charge. The default setting of enabling data every 15 minutes is enough for me - I don't expect to get emails that are time sensitive to the point where a maximum of 15 minute delay would be detrimental. And I play with my phone a lot so I'm usually waking it up to respond to texts and it reenables data then anyway.
edit: I'm not using any battery tweaks or DRM disabling stuff. I'm stock except for rooting.

You guys and this juice defender. you use more battery with this because it is always running in the background. i get 45 hours without juice defender or a task killer. 1 day of battery pleasssseee i could get 2 if it was left in standby or more. no drm removed. root, cwm, galaxy rom and kernel di18 & blue minimalism

Oh well f me... If you're getting 45 hours that must mean I can get 45 hours because, you know, our geographic locations have the exact same coverage and we have the exact same phone usage patterns. Wow I feel like such an idiot. Thank you. Thank you for showing me that juice defender, instead of increasing my battery life by a good 6-8 hours, is actually killing it by 21 hours...
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Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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guruleenyc said:
Actually I am second guessing it too. Sure it off for a few days...
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That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.

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That's fine - always be skeptical especially when an update comes out to improve performance. I'm about to test the new kernel without this to see if it's worth it. But I know that keeping data off on my Hero tripled the battery life and since having this phone it's definitely increased it. But you can't tell me that I'm losing 21 hours of battery life by using it - and definitely don't try to make me feel like an idiot for using it either.
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Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.

jbadboy2007 said:
Im sure its not killing you by 21 hours. prolly your STOCK sync settings though. i only turn it on for a minute or two 3x a day. but go with out it i bet its prolly like 8 hours. think about it when your screen is off it is running. well that is another process that is draining battery unneccessarily. My entire phone is set up like on demand it does what i want it to when i want it to not when it wants too and all of this is acheived with stock settings and checking every app for update frequency settings. I use my phone a lot so i need it to be there.
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So for argument's sake, and because I wanted an actual test, I installed your setup based on you're post earlier, andromeda rom, no juice, etc. gmail and facebook sync off. I even went in 4 times throughout the day to turn off running services. I got 11 hours and that was with charging while I was in a vehicle. So I would say about 9 to 10 hours really. TWS was only at 16%. Display was the biggest battery drain at 82%.
So now that I've done this, I can say without a doubt, for me personally, juice defender is really extending my battery life. While running juice defender, I take my phone off the charger at 6am typically and when I go to bed at midnight I still have over 20%. And if I don't plug my phone in, I can wake up at 6am the next day and the phone is still on.
You have a setup that works for you, and I have a setup that works for me. In my setup, juice defender gets me through a 24 hour period without charging. Now that I've got the andromeda rom and kernel, I'm going to test battery life with juice.
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45 hours is meaningless when you just let the phone sit in standby the entire time. That's like the car commercials that list higher mpg than they get in the real world.
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I have juice defender installed only for it's two toggle widgets. With defender disabled it doesn't run in background, I take advantage of the data toggle widget and I've seen it save as high as 5x's life.

How To Get At Least 15+ Hours of Battery Life

Alright, so here's how it goes. I happen to be really anal about battery life, and if I come home from a 8 hour day and I have less than 50% of battery life, it just bothers me.
So, with a bit of reading, I have my phone set up to where I get almost 24 hours of battery life. So here are the steps I took to achieve that:
Have all the basics down:
Be on the lowest brightness (because even that is extremely bright) unless in extraordinary situations.
Always use wifi over 3G/2G and use bluetooth and the GPS as little as possible.
Also don't install any task killers - they do more harm than good.
1. Flashthe Bionix ROM. For those of you who haven't done it yet, you are missing a lot. The speed of ROM is incredible and has a lot of little tweaks that will improve battery life. Don't be afraid to root and flash these ROMS - they have been throughly tested and proved to almost always solve problems instead of creating new ones! Make sure to download the Bionix ROM that runs on the J12 modem. Pick it up here:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782027
2. Wipe battery stats!!! This one is without a doubt the most critical. I did this and my battery life increased by more than 2X. Make sure you follow the instructions that state:
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
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To do step 6, I had my phone at full brightness with Bluetooth and GPS on, with Pandora running all while recording a HD video. It drained it pretty damn quick lol.
3. Install Autokiller from the market, and apply the Aggressive preset. This will really lower CPU usage, and really speeds up your phone. This is NOT a task killer, this just allocates memory more harshly.
4. Install JuiceDefender, and have it enabled at all times... A lot of people have had mixed results with this. Mainly, it will turn of data while your phone is asleep, but turning data on and off is a battery drainer. Juicedefender will automatically recognize what settings will produce the most preservation of battery for your phone, so leave it at the default settings. It all depends on how often you use your phone, and what your data connection is like in the areas you reside. It does great things for most people, so I really suggest you try it out. Make sure you download the "battery" version and not the beta.
5. Have all apps/widgets that regularly stream information to the lowest interval possible. Let's be honest, you don't need your Facebook widget to be refreshing every 5min, so set it at an hour.
With all this done, I am at this very moment at 44% battery with a little over 13 hours of use. Even if I had my phone asleep the entire time, 24 hours is a lot better than what most people would seem to get. My day usually consists of 20min of talk time, 30 min of texting, 40 min of browsing, 30 min of gaming, 1 hour of music playing, and a bit of picture taking/editing. My phone is asleep for a long periods of time while I am at school. Yes I don't use my phone as heavily as some do, but if it guarantees me a full day of battery, I don't mind too much.
I don't really see how this can't work for others. We have the exact same hardware, and the exact same battery. You may use the phone more than I and pump out a few hours less, but still get over 15 hours.
Hope this helped!

nearblack said:
Alright, so here's how it goes. I happen to be really anal about battery life, and if I come home from a 8 hour day and I have less than 50% of battery life, it just bothers me.
So, with a bit of reading, I have my phone set up to where I get almost 24 hours of battery life. So here are the steps I took to achieve that:
Have all the basics down. Be on the lowest brightness (because even that is extremely bright) unless in extraordinary situations. Always use wifi over 3G/2G and use bluetooth and the GPS as little as possible. Also don't install any task killers - they do more harm than good.
1. Flashthe Bionix ROM. For those of you who haven't done it yet, you are missing a lot. The speed of ROM is incredible and has a lot of little tweaks that will improve battery life.
2. Wipe battery stats!!! This one is without a doubt the most critical. I did this and my battery life increased by more than 2X. Make sure you follow the instructions that state:
To do step 6, I had my phone at full brightness with Bluetooth and GPS on, with Pandora running all while recording a HD video. It drained it pretty damn quick lol.
3. Install Autokiller from the market, and apply the ULTIMATE preset. This will really lower CPU usage, and though it the most extreme of all presets, I haven't had any issues. This is NOT a task killer, this just allocates memory more harshly.
4. Install JuiceDefender, and have it enabled at all times... A lot of people have had mixed results with this. Mainly, it will turn of data while your phone is asleep, but turning data on and off is a battery drainer. It all depends on how often you use your phone, and what your data connection is like in the areas you reside. It does great things for most people, so I really suggest you try it out. Make sure you download the "battery" version and not the beta.
5. Have all apps/widgets that regularly stream information to the lowest interval possible. Let's be honest, you don't need your Facebook widget to be refreshing every 5min, so set it at an hour.
With all this done, I am at this very moment at 44% battery with a little over 13 hours of use. Even if I had my phone asleep the entire time, 24 hours is a lot better than what most people would seem to get. My day usually consists of 20min of talk time, 30 min of texting, 40 min of browsing, 30 min of gaming, 1 hour of music playing, and a bit of picture taking/editing. My phone is asleep for a long periods of time while I am at school. Yes I don't use my phone as heavily as some do, but if it guarantees me a full day of battery, I don't mind too much.
I don't really see how this can't work for others. We have the exact same hardware, and the exact same battery. You may use the phone more than I and pump out a few hours less, but still get over 15 hours.
Hope this helped!
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I would specify what settings you use on JuiceDefender, because it really depends on what settings you use and such. You made this guide to help people, so don't leave them wondering.
I would include other ways to save battery life, even if they have been said over and over, just so no one misses anything.
Also, with Bionix you will probably want to only recommend the JI2 modem, because it is not universally accepted that JI6 helps battery life, in fact it is quite the contrary.

Mark271 said:
I would specify what settings you use on JuiceDefender, because it really depends on what settings you use and such. You made this guide to help people, so don't leave them wondering.
I would include other ways to save battery life, even if they have been said over and over, just so no one misses anything.
Also, with Bionix you will probably want to only recommend the JI2 modem, because it is not universally accepted that JI6 helps battery life, in fact it is quite the contrary.
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I am running JI6 with bionix, and im running on 14 hours at 45%

DaSmittyman said:
I am running JI6 with bionix, and im running on 14 hours at 45%
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Good job. Proud of you.

Mark271 said:
Good job. Proud of you.
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lul, I added the JI2 bit to the post. You are right, that modem has proven to perform more efficiently.

Near black excellent
Near black excellent Written play by play well done !

I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
lolcopter said:
I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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kizer said:
Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
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Aside from steaming pandora all day I'm doing all that too. Wifi always on, gps navigation, watching youtube/nfl app videos, twitter/email throughout the day, forums, etc. The only way I can kill my phone anywhere near that fast is hours of constant video steaming over 3g
Edit: oh, and angry birds all day every day, haha
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kizer said:
Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
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lolcopter said:
I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly
*shrugs*
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Agreed, I moderately use my phone the whole day and I am left with 25-30% after a 15 hour day. Its not necessary to have max brightness, 3g, bt, syncing, wifi, tons of widgets on all day.

My secret was just getting another battery sent to me. The one that came with teh phone jus wasnt all that great. New one lasts 4 to 5 hours longer doing the same things.
I leave bluetooth on all the time. Never turn it off. Only turn on GPS when needed. And at work where i dont usually get wifi, i leave 2G on most of the time unless i need it to be faster for something, but most times, 2G is fine for tweets and emails. Of course it all depends on how much im using it. I use it if i have to. If the battery is lower than usual when i get home, who cares? I charge it up over night every night anyways. I'm not anal that way.
Most ive got for a day is 18 hours. Had 17 or so many times and had a little over 16 hours today w/ 10% left but plugged it in anyways.

My secret Is to leave the music playing overnight. With headphones.
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Lol. I have a HTC legend with stock rom and i just checked running time. I have one day and three and a half hours....at 55% battery
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=D
thank you! I will try this out. =]

I wanna put Bionix on my phone so bad, but if I screw up and brick the phone, then no more Vibrant for me. :/ need a better job imo.

Wearespacepeople said:
I wanna put Bionix on my phone so bad, but if I screw up and brick the phone, then no more Vibrant for me. :/ need a better job imo.
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It's really hard to screw up. (assuming you have made it though an educational system successfully)
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Mark271 said:
It's really hard to screw up. (assuming you have made it though an educational system successfully)
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Hah, I think I'm taking this as a personal challenge. How about if I DO screw up you send me your Vibrant? Deal?

Wearespacepeople said:
Hah, I think I'm taking this as a personal challenge. How about if I DO screw up you send me your Vibrant? Deal?
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No, because this phone is unbrickable. You just need average reading comprehension and moderate computer literacy.
On a side note, the recommended autokiller setting is far too high. It kills anything after you exit out of it. (i.e. checking a text, it will kill the texting program after exiting) I lowered a few levels to see if I'll keep it.

added to the thread Mark. You are right, having it at such a high level will not only kill some running apps, but those apps will go onto restart, which kills battery. I think the "aggressive" setting is most suitable, or the lowest preset where your phone is still fast enough.

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Interesting...great write up.
So would you say Bionix is the the best ROM for the Vibrant? There are so many ROMS's out there and I can imagine how it would confuse the heck out of those who are looking for the best ROM available to date for our phones.
What are your thoughts?

Some KB5 Tweaks I've Noticed

-MUCH improved battery life..55% left with about 23 hours after unplugging..wifi was on and played a good amount of angry birds (light to moderate use otherwise)
-brought back notification bar brightness adjustment thingy
-charges MUCH faster as well
-wifi doesn't crash
-no noticeable performance changes
-media scanning seems to be faster
Might edit this post later...just a little info for those updating.. :|
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-MUCH improved battery life..55% left with about 23 hours after unplugging..wifi was on and played a good amount of angry birds
your just turning your phone on to check time or something, thats just not possible.
I can get 15 hours max, i've gotten 20 but with the minimalest use ever.
I have no data plan, so i use wifi all the time, and even with that, i dont get that kind of battery life, your just ****ing with me bud.

I'm not...serious about that.results may vary anyway. My brightness wasn't really too high. I would have
Capped, but I'm not rooted and my camera is pretty bad.
EDIT: light to moderate use otherwise
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laylovj said:
I'm not...serious about that.results may vary anyway. My brightness wasn't really too high. I would have
Capped, but I'm not rooted and my camera is pretty bad.
EDIT: light to moderate use otherwise
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NO NO NO NO.
Results may vary, but not by 6+ hours.
My brightness is always at either 0% or 15%
Camera being bad has nothing to do with battery life.
Rooting doesn't either.
Light to moderate? no.
VERY light? yes.
i'm sorry if i sound rude, but i just hate it when people OVER- say what they actually want to say.
23 hours and 55% left is just dumb. That would mean that you'd get 2 days worth of battery.
Either your battery's filled with magical unicorns that auto-refill your charges, or your lying.

^^^^^Riiiiiight.
I get 30 hours of use easy--I'm on it all the time.

xriderx66 said:
-MUCH improved battery life..55% left with about 23 hours after unplugging..wifi was on and played a good amount of angry birds
your just turning your phone on to check time or something, thats just not possible.
I can get 15 hours max, i've gotten 20 but with the minimalest use ever.
I have no data plan, so i use wifi all the time, and even with that, i dont get that kind of battery life, your just ****ing with me bud.
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You can get 24+ hours just on overstock + trigger.
Beleive it or not, once when I left to work, I had 9% battery and I was like !!, so i turned off wifi, data, sync. and sed phone just to check for msgs etc and maybe 1 call.
When I got back home after ~9 hrs, I had 5% battery and I was pretty amazed. True story, take it or leave it.

I m on KB1 and right now 17hours on %52. So it is possible but it all depends on the usage.
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@rider It's cool..I'm just going by what my phone does.. :/
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xriderx66 said:
NO NO NO NO.
Results may vary, but not by 6+ hours.
My brightness is always at either 0% or 15%
Camera being bad has nothing to do with battery life.
Rooting doesn't either.
Light to moderate? no.
VERY light? yes.
i'm sorry if i sound rude, but i just hate it when people OVER- say what they actually want to say.
23 hours and 55% left is just dumb. That would mean that you'd get 2 days worth of battery.
Either your battery's filled with magical unicorns that auto-refill your charges, or your lying.
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Yet another troll post by this guy.

phrozenflame said:
You can get 24+ hours just on overstock + trigger.
Beleive it or not, once when I left to work, I had 9% battery and I was like !!, so i turned off wifi, data, sync. and sed phone just to check for msgs etc and maybe 1 call.
When I got back home after ~9 hrs, I had 5% battery and I was pretty amazed. True story, take it or leave it.
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I believe it, i never said its impossible to get 20+ hours of battery life, i've gotten there too.
but the OP has gone through 23 hours and has 55% remaining.
thats ****ing insane.

Yeah I thought it was insane too.. didn't think it was possible either.
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xriderx66 said:
I believe it, i never said its impossible to get 20+ hours of battery life, i've gotten there too.
but the OP has gone through 23 hours and has 55% remaining.
thats ****ing insane.
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The problem with people posting their drain times is that light use for you and me might be considered heavy use by the OP. With that said, if you properly want to tell people how good your battery is, post your screen on time. At least that gives an idea as to how good your battery is in comparison to something we can also measure.
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vinnydakid said:
The problem with people posting their drain times is that light use for you and me might be considered heavy use by the OP. With that said, if you properly want to tell people how good your battery is, post your screen on time. At least that gives an idea as to how good your battery is in comparison to something we can also measure.
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the DEFAULT settings for battery usage is the most inaccurate.
Use another app from the market, that shows like a line graph of when you charged etc.
I have MIUI, so i know my battery life is horrible.

What other improvements...
Other than battery life what other improvements did this update bring. When I updated my wife's phone to 2.2 she said it was crap. Visual voice mail did not work properly which was a big deal to her.
Did this update have any other improvements?

Well not really other than the OP. No real overall performance changes. Just about as fast or slow as froyo depending on what you think about it.
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phrozenflame said:
You can get 24+ hours just on overstock + trigger.
Beleive it or not, once when I left to work, I had 9% battery and I was like !!, so i turned off wifi, data, sync. and sed phone just to check for msgs etc and maybe 1 call.
When I got back home after ~9 hrs, I had 5% battery and I was pretty amazed. True story, take it or leave it.
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If you literally do nothing on it (other than leave it on), a fairly new battery will drain slower than that. Mine will last a couple days if all I do is turn the screen on to check the time.

After I put 2.2 on my phone I noticed that vvm kept running in the background and was draining the battery. Was this fixed?
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Is avatar not playing for anyone else? I fixed it for stock KA6 by deleting a file/symlink. Now with KB5 it will not play. How can I fix it again? Thanks.
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xriderx66 said:
I believe it, i never said its impossible to get 20+ hours of battery life, i've gotten there too.
but the OP has gone through 23 hours and has 55% remaining.
thats ****ing insane.
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I have to concur with the posting, I forgot to plug in my phone yesterday so when I got up this morning it had been 27 hours since I last plugged in and I was at 56% left according to my battery widget running Bi-Winning with overstock version1.4, I got to say this much improved battery life surprised me. i do not have my screen @ 45% I run @ 60% bright
I get faster data transfer as well. So this is all good...... Too bad Samsung took 8 Months to figure out how to code a decent modem......

Sdobron said:
Yet another troll post by this guy.
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+1 kid needs some manners..
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Best configuration for three days of battery!

Hello beautiful, sorry for my bad english!
We can write here, comparing ideas and impressions of all, what is the best configuration to protect the battery?
It may seem an obsession, but now it is summer and it often happens that the cells can not just load it because I have an outlet in attack.
So often I stay off her cell phone.
The Nexus S promises, but together with your expertise, I would like to figure out how to stay on the nexus s for as long as possible.
To understand Configuration: os (cyanogen, stock, AOPs, etc. ...), the kernel, governor settings, launcher, widgets, various tricks (NFC disabled) ...
There were?
Can we make the battery last for three days ?!?!?!?!?!!
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Let me explain, I have the latest nightly cyanogen, the 88. Off data always when I'm around and I do not use the internet. I do not need the push, so no active sync. The wifi I turn it on only at home or at work, I have WhatsApp, twitter and I uninstalled facebook to try what were saying that facebook consumes battery. I have launcher pro and Gtasks widget for notes in gmail, news and weather widget for news that is updated every 6 hours, if it's on the Internet, and then all program icons. I have installed very few, narrow required.
The kernel is the 1.3.3 universal netarchy signed cfs (the bfs? Is not that I had to use the bfs what do you think?).
This afternoon I used the GPS a few minutes to find an address, then he arrived, I turned off the GPS and data, with the widgets "Power Control" modified cyanogen.
Some short calls since this morning and some short text messages, not even 10. Some web browsing on 3G, but not much.
Well, after all this I can tell you that after only 11hours 18minutes 5seconds the battery is already 42% (97% this morning after recharge).
I'm not coming to pass even 23 hours which is what you do with a simple stock 2.3.4.
What is the sense I'm in the kernel and cyanogen netarchy? Only to change some other small lockscreen?
I need the battery! And I have already explained why.
The other ROM that you have listed does not come from cyanogen?
They are not "pure" cyanogen changed? Implemented? Correct?
Let me know ....
The AOSP where they come from? They are like cyanogen, a family on its own? O derived from cyanogen, too?
Now I remove the cyanogen and try something else.
What do you suck a lot in my phone? WhatsApp? Imagine if gripping always-sync data and as some of you! Not even 10 hours would last.
In the processes running there: Settings - 1 and 0 process services (21MB), WhatsApp - 1 process and 2 services (8.8 Mb), Market - a process and a service (11Mb) Maps - a service process and 1 (5.8 Mb) Google services - 2 processes and one service (15Mb), keyboard Android - a process and a service (8.9 Mb) - TOTAL: 153Mb used and 152 free.
It's right? Do you have it?
I just do not understand where mistake ... help me ...

denteca said:
It may seem an obsession,
but now it is summer
and it often happens that the cells can not just load it
because I have an outlet in attack.
So often I stay off her cell phone.
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This is actually quite poetic, in a nonsensical way.
But I can't understand it - could a native speaker please try to "translate"?

why is there a 2nd thread on this? do the mods even ever come here?

Complaining about your phone being HALF dead after 11 hours?! Mine is completely dead after 5! I'm lucky if I even make it that far.
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elijahpr said:
Complaining about your phone being HALF dead after 11 hours?! Mine is completely dead after 5! I'm lucky if I even make it that far.
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if thats true you need to take it back for a replacement.

3 days of phone use.
Step 1: charge phone to full
Step 2: Set phone down on table
Step 3: Pick it back up 72hrs later
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styckx said:
3 days of phone use.
Step 1: charge phone to full
Step 2: Set phone down on table
Step 3: Pick it back up 72hrs later
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in most cases that would be correct but in reality no phone running android without an extended battery will achieve 3 days. BUT my 4g did go 2 days/8hrs with medium usage.

I can see two days no prob with some average use. You could maybe get 3 days if the screen brightness was at zero, setcpu locked at 500mhz Max and constantly toggle airplane mode when not using it.
What fun is that though.
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You seem to have completely missed his point, which is that people who tout their batteries lasting 2 and 3 days acheive this by not really using the phone at all.
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matt2053 said:
You seem to have completely missed his point, which is that people who tout their batteries lasting 2 and 3 days acheive this by not really using the phone at all.
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i bet with heavy usage i could go about 24hrs. i used my phone alot yesterday and still had great life on a stock battery. i guess everyones phone is different. it also depends on what kernel and rom you use.

fixxxer2008 said:
i bet with heavy usage i could go about 24hrs. i used my phone alot yesterday and still had great life on a stock battery. i guess everyones phone is different. it also depends on what kernel and rom you use.
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Correct. There are so many variables. Some say their battery lasts 7hrs. What we never know is if their homescreen looks like a widget bomb exploded on it, everything set to auto sync every hour and brightness at 100% while they use it like a mini laptop non stop.
At work I get like 5 hours. I use it redicously heavy almost all day.
The two biggest battery killers are tapatalk and web browsing. If that is all you do, yep you will never make it past a day.
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fixxxer2008 said:
i bet with heavy usage i could go about 24hrs. i used my phone alot yesterday and still had great life on a stock battery. i guess everyones phone is different. it also depends on what kernel and rom you use.
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I think this is pretty accurate.
Typically, with average use (by my estimation) I get about 22-23 hrs between charges.
Average use is defined by
*Netarchy kernel overclocked to 1.2GHz with SetCPU (screen off profile set to 500MHz)
*2-3 hrs of talk time (with about -85dBm signal on average - or at least that's what it is when the call starts)
*push email for 3 IMAP accounts at 5min check intervals and sending and receiving at least 75-100 emails per day
*push gmail with 60 or so emails per day
*fancy widgets updating location every 30 mins.
*Seesmic twitter widgets on homescreen updating 3 accounts.
*Facebook widget
*locations service always on
*wifi never sleeping
I think that's most of what's running.
Battery life on the NS4G has made me laugh at my Evo's 8hr charge and has actually made me use my phone MORE out of confidence that my battery will last.
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TonyArmstrong said:
I think this is pretty accurate.
Typically, with average use (by my estimation) I get about 22-23 hrs between charges.
Average use is defined by
*Netarchy kernel overclocked to 1.2GHz with SetCPU (screen off profile set to 500MHz)
*2-3 hrs of talk time (with about -85dBm signal on average - or at least that's what it is when the call starts)
*push email for 3 IMAP accounts at 5min check intervals and sending and receiving at least 75-100 emails per day
*push gmail with 60 or so emails per day
*fancy widgets updating location every 30 mins.
*Seesmic twitter widgets on homescreen updating 3 accounts.
*Facebook widget
*locations service always on
*wifi never sleeping
I think that's most of what's running.
Battery life on the NS4G has made me laugh at my Evo's 8hr charge and has actually made me use my phone MORE out of confidence that my battery will last.
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Do not forget SCREEN ON TIME and AWAKE TIME, those are the two most important variables of all!

fixxxer2008 said:
in most cases that would be correct but in reality no phone running android without an extended battery will achieve 3 days. BUT my 4g did go 2 days/8hrs with medium usage.
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I went on a vacation out of the states so I couldn't use my phone. It was charged before I went and I just left it in airplane mode for the whole trip, and occasionally used it for music and a calculator. After about 4 days it went dead, I was surprised it lasted that long.

fixxxer2008 said:
i bet with heavy usage i could go about 24hrs. i used my phone alot yesterday and still had great life on a stock battery. i guess everyones phone is different. it also depends on what kernel and rom you use.
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lol.mine doesnt even last 4 hours when playing riptide GP.(tegra 2 game)
on my nexus s

fixxxer2008 said:
why is there a 2nd thread on this? do the mods even ever come here?
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Says fixxxer. LOL
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I'm not sure if you have let the battery die all the way to 0% and then charge it overnight. Do this 4-6 times a month and you will see a huge increase in battery life.
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unlvmike said:
I'm not sure if you have let the battery die all the way to 0% and then charge it overnight. Do this 4-6 times a month and you will see a huge increase in battery life.
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thats the stupidest ting ever to do with the battery..
its a Li-ion battery.you aren't supposed to let it die.its actually bad!

ghost010 said:
thats the stupidest ting ever to do with the battery..
its a Li-ion battery.you aren't supposed to let it die.its actually bad!
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^-This
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unlvmike said:
I'm not sure if you have let the battery die all the way to 0% and then charge it overnight. Do this 4-6 times a month and you will see a huge increase in battery life.
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Yeah you should do this only when calibrating the battery which should need to be done very very infrequently it not at all.
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[Q] battery?? not up to par.

My last phone until my Sprint G2 was the original EVO with the original battery so I couldn't wait until I got the G2 the other day. However I dont seem to be getting the battery life that I hear others talk about. With mod/heavy use while getting everything set up and learning about phone the back gets hot around the volume/power switch area. I havent really even been watching videos, mainly getting on Dolphin browser. what do you guys think?

Give it a few full charges and a few days.......
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Give it a few full charges and a few days.......
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I see my display is using 60% of battery.. The brightness display setting is set at auto 80%. I checked auto but it seems to keep what ever % that I have even when auto is checked? What brightness setting do you have set?
Thanks again

That is a base brightness when auto is checked. Set it lower. I tend to keep mine 35%.

That looks terrible. Im at 48% with 3+ hrs screen on time. And 7+ hrs expected left. I have my brightness at 33 most of the day. Also second day with the phone.
I would be a bit worried unless you have your brightness cranked and all setting checked on...
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Auto bright doesn't really work on this phone. LG can't get it right. How long was your screen on, and what do you have on in the background? GPS? Bluetooth? WiFi? If your screen was on most of the time, that's pretty spot on.
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When i first got my g2 the battery would only last around 10-12 hours with wifi and max brightness but after a week im now getting 24hours+ with normal use including playing games. I think it takes a while to learn what you use the most or something. Am using rayglobes rom too
Ohh and auto bright does nothing at all lol, at least it wasnt like the Galaxy S3 that would be either extremly bright or dull

Steamer86 said:
That is a base brightness when auto is checked. Set it lower. I tend to keep mine 35%.
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35% man? I didnt get a badass phone to have to set it at 35% brightness because of battery..cant hardly see it then.

mlaaw said:
My last phone until my Sprint G2 was the original EVO with the original battery so I couldn't wait until I got the G2 the other day. However I dont seem to be getting the battery life that I hear others talk about. With mod/heavy use while getting everything set up and learning about phone the back gets hot around the volume/power switch area. I havent really even been watching videos, mainly getting on Dolphin browser. what do you guys think?
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It's not supposed to run hot at all. Do a factory reset and see if that corrects your problem. If not, exchange the phone for another one. It may be defective
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mlaaw said:
35% man? I didnt get a badass phone to have to set it at 35% brightness because of battery..cant hardly see it then.
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I use mine at 60% most of the day & get excellent battery life

Mine is set at 70% medium use 20+ hours.
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mlaaw said:
35% man? I didnt get a badass phone to have to set it at 35% brightness because of battery..cant hardly see it then.
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What are you expecting out of your phone? Screen burns most of the battery. Even the g2 doesn't have that much battery strength. Hell, most phablets don't. I get 5 hours of life on 40% brightness, heavy usage, screen on most of the time.
I'm not saying it isn't possible to have it brighter and get great life, it depends on other parameters too.
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chrisphoenix7 said:
What are you expecting out of your phone? Screen burns most of the battery. Even the g2 doesn't have that much battery strength. Hell, most phablets don't. I get 5 hours of life on 40% brightness, heavy usage, screen on most of the time.
I'm not saying it isn't possible to have it brighter and get great life, it depends on other parameters too.
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What are you doing on your phone? Must suck to buy a top of the line phone and can only use it 5 hrs with a dim lit screen. and dont tell me 40% looks good cause it doesent! One of the main points was this phone has great battery life so either something wrong with our phones or all the reviews didnt use it much. Im getting no difference with this one than my 4 yr org EVO with org battery. Enjoy charing a plug and looking for an outlet all day Im not.

mlaaw said:
With mod/heavy use while getting everything set up and learning about phone /QUOTE]
You basically got 5 hours of screen on time with 40% left?
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android404 said:
mlaaw said:
With mod/heavy use while getting everything set up and learning about phone /QUOTE]
You basically got 5 hours of screen on time with 40% left?
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No.. It was off the charger for the 5hrs not all screen on time. A little more than mod use. Setting up checking out stuff. I was not on it the entire time plus it would get hot while charging. I've have now a replacement on the way. It was getting hot around the top of phone, buttons and ear piece. I don't know just doesn't seem right. And about people putting brightness at 35-40 % is crazy.. At least on my phone its way to dark to enjoy.
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An easy way to get that little extra batterylife is to unbox Googles right to get your position using WiFi. I discovered that during nights i lost about 8% even though my screen was off and i didn't use the phone, all due to that service. Now i Only loose 1% in 7-8 hours.

Typical use for me.
My Nexus 4 with the same usage patterns wouldn't last 10 hours, and I'm syncing 3 emails and all Google services. Color me satisfied.

mlaaw said:
What are you doing on your phone? Must suck to buy a top of the line phone and can only use it 5 hrs with a dim lit screen. and dont tell me 40% looks good cause it doesent! One of the main points was this phone has great battery life so either something wrong with our phones or all the reviews didnt use it much. Im getting no difference with this one than my 4 yr org EVO with org battery. Enjoy charing a plug and looking for an outlet all day Im not.
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Sounds like there's only 1 common denominator between the 2 phones....hm...
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I'm having the same problem as you. However my battery life out the box started out great. I could use the phone for almost two days without needing a charge. I "bent" the phone two weeks ago when I was trying to get it out of the quickwindow case and since then the battery life has been total crap. I barely get half a day off my phone with the same usage. I really don't understand whats going on with the battery.